| 00:22.24 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29945 10/brlcad/trunk/ (204 files in 28 dirs): more ws comma consistency cleanup. remove the spaces before commas throughout. |
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| 04:01.20 | ``Erik | whoa |
| 04:03.49 | ``Erik | http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=name&substr=glpong |
| 04:17.11 | Axman6 | hmm? |
| 04:27.28 | Axman6 | ``Erik: if you're on a mac, check out http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/xquartz/wiki/X112.1.2 |
| 04:31.38 | ``Erik | axman: what I pasted was a program I wrote 6 years ago, a 1-day game |
| 04:31.51 | Axman6 | heh, awesome :P |
| 04:36.17 | brlcad | ``Erik: and points to a dead website w/ no maintainer :) |
| 04:36.20 | brlcad | you should fix it |
| 04:37.43 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 04:37.51 | ``Erik | I was poking at it |
| 04:38.06 | ``Erik | my tarballs seem broken for how macports wants to play with 'em |
| 04:38.07 | ``Erik | :/ |
| 04:40.11 | brlcad | should be nearly identical other than building on mac |
| 04:40.28 | brlcad | few macports I played with were the just copied over from ports |
| 04:40.47 | ``Erik | yeah... well, the most recent, for some reason, the mac is whining about missing depcomp |
| 04:42.36 | ``Erik | mebbe I'll push another release, the inclusion of openal in osX got me to update stuff in my cvs that hasn't been released |
| 04:52.14 | ``Erik | mmmm isla fisher |
| 04:53.12 | Axman6 | now that was an odd coincidence |
| 05:04.17 | ``Erik | ? |
| 05:07.09 | Axman6 | someone just mentioned that name in another chan on another network. like a minute before you did |
| 05:07.45 | ``Erik | hum |
| 05:07.55 | ``Erik | perhaps they were watching the same channel and saw the same commercial |
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| 05:50.12 | brlcad | arf.. bob's commit messages are so devoid of information |
| 05:51.06 | brlcad | practically no indication of what's wrong or how his changes help |
| 05:56.01 | brlcad | heh, goo factor |
| 05:56.15 | brlcad | sticky balls |
| 05:56.29 | Axman6 | ... |
| 05:56.47 | brlcad | Axman6: hehe, a commit message to the metaball primitive |
| 05:56.49 | louipc | hot over there? |
| 05:56.55 | brlcad | has a new "goo" factor |
| 05:57.12 | Axman6 | excellent |
| 05:57.23 | brlcad | metaballs are always good for low brow humor |
| 05:57.30 | Axman6 | i'm sure smeone has a need for gooy balls |
| 05:58.26 | brlcad | hrm, don't seem to have a good screenie |
| 06:04.09 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29946 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: (log message trimmed) |
| 06:04.09 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: Bob fixed the extended rendering delays that users would see when ray-tracing on |
| 06:04.09 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: Windows. you could see via the log that the ray-trace would finish very quickly |
| 06:04.09 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: (nearly instantly sometimes) but then would stall for a minute or two before |
| 06:04.09 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: displaying the image to the framebuffer. the problem was actually a manual |
| 06:04.12 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: Sleep() call that was added a long time ago (heh) to the wgl framebuffer that |
| 06:04.14 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: made it interactively update the image while it rendered and made a completed |
| 06:16.19 | brlcad | army ants are awesome |
| 06:22.52 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29947 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: (log message trimmed) |
| 06:22.52 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: (reworded line) Bob fixed the extended rendering delays that users would see |
| 06:22.52 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: when ray-tracing on Windows. you could see via the log that the ray-trace would |
| 06:22.52 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: finish very quickly (nearly instantly sometimes) but then would stall for a |
| 06:22.52 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: minute or two before displaying the image to the framebuffer. the problem was |
| 06:22.54 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: actually a manual Sleep() call that was added a long time ago (heh) to the wgl |
| 06:22.56 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: framebuffer that made it interactively update the image while it rendered and |
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| 07:14.14 | Axman6 | brlcad: how so? |
| 07:29.18 | curious | CIA-30, ah! well, lol, indeed, plainly clearing it took loads of time on pci based savage + dual cpu setup, lol |
| 07:30.08 | curious | it's a bot i assume ? :) |
| 07:44.08 | Axman6 | yah |
| 07:52.11 | brlcad | curious: yes, a commit reporter announcing changes to the source code |
| 07:52.52 | brlcad | (in real time) |
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| 08:02.46 | Axman6 | brlcad: why makes army ants so awesome? |
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| 08:21.43 | brlcad | mmmm.. that's a LONG discussion :) |
| 08:21.56 | brlcad | (for me at least) :) |
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| 14:01.05 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29948 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ged.c: It looks like the Windows specific call to Tcl_CreateChannelHandler() was accidentally removed. |
| 14:05.36 | ``Erik | hmmmm |
| 14:05.44 | ``Erik | svn ann NEWS | sort -nr | head -n 30 |
| 14:05.50 | ``Erik | neat |
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| 16:26.21 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29949 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/attach.c: The indices for the MGED_DISPLAY_VAR were accidentally changed. This prevented MGED's status bar on the command window from being updated. |
| 16:33.29 | ``Erik | ho hum |
| 16:35.51 | ``Erik | hum, ho! hum! |
| 19:39.49 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29950 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/accel.tcl: Fixed bug in rcc-cap that shows up when using the 't' option. |
| 20:46.50 | ``Erik | *sigh* mac word doesn't seem to have a "mail merge", just a "data merge" with no mention of mail |
| 20:51.03 | brlcad | data merge should do it, ties to address book for e-mail mailers |
| 20:52.48 | brlcad | yeah, in the Merge Manager |
| 20:52.59 | brlcad | after you fill in all of the options, there's a "Merge to Mail" option |
| 20:53.45 | brlcad | sounds like it uses your entourage address book only for outgoing address(es) |
| 20:55.06 | brlcad | er, "Merge to E-Mail" specifically, under the Merge dropdown on the "Data Merge Manager" |
| 21:05.10 | ``Erik | too bad you can't change font size in ms's help crap :/ |
| 21:18.22 | ``Erik | the "filter" crap seems handy |
| 21:21.36 | ``Erik | I have a feeling it's trying to use mail.app :/ |
| 21:34.42 | ``Erik | hummmm |
| 21:36.27 | poolio | Macbook Air :] |
| 21:37.44 | ``Erik | it's pretty, but does that video chipset have the unf once would want? |
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| 21:46.16 | poolio | ``Erik: I'm looking for an ultraportable to do coding and general computing schtuff. I have a desktop for the umph. My Asus just died so I'm seriously considering it...the price is a bit steep though. |
| 21:50.29 | ``Erik | any old cheap machine can work for coding O.o |
| 21:52.13 | poolio | I'm actually thinking of buying it for the sex appeal. |
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| 22:30.38 | PrezKennedy | brlcad, don't think I'm ever going Apple... not when the 4GB ram upgrade is $700 |
| 22:37.15 | poolio | Just buy 3rd party RAM |
| 22:37.55 | brlcad | yeah, just buy the memory elsewhere |
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| 22:38.46 | brlcad | the memory has always been a major premium .. we don't even buy it from apple for work most of the time |
| 22:39.02 | PrezKennedy | the 17" MacBook still ends up being almost $1500 more |
| 22:39.30 | brlcad | more than what? |
| 22:39.53 | PrezKennedy | my 17" Pavilion, which has more disk space and 4GB of RAM |
| 22:40.00 | brlcad | and is how big? |
| 22:40.19 | PrezKennedy | what is how big? |
| 22:40.29 | brlcad | size is a *major* factor in the price of laptops, every ounce reduction is a pretty major change in price |
| 22:40.35 | PrezKennedy | im comparing MacBook Pro to this |
| 22:40.43 | PrezKennedy | so about a pound |
| 22:40.48 | brlcad | the size of your pavillion vs mbp |
| 22:41.08 | brlcad | a pound difference? that's pretty big... |
| 22:41.24 | PrezKennedy | so is $1500! |
| 22:41.44 | brlcad | it might not be something you care about, but that's a major diff in price for any laptop maker |
| 22:41.56 | poolio | brlcad: any thoughts on the macbook air? |
| 22:42.21 | PrezKennedy | cmon, if theyre charging $700 for $80 RAM, you know they're nailing you elsewhere too |
| 22:42.22 | brlcad | poolio: yeah, I wish solid state hard drives still weren't so damn expensive :) |
| 22:42.43 | poolio | brlcad: I'm trying to find out if it is upgradeable. I preordered one :o |
| 22:43.10 | poolio | The mac fanboys are whining everywhere but I like it. They could have cut an inch off the width though... |
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| 22:43.55 | PrezKennedy | Doesn't come with a drive does it? |
| 22:44.14 | brlcad | PrezKennedy: compare the specs to a pavilion (or dell or vaio) that matches in size and components, I'd you'll find them within 10% at the base configurations |
| 22:44.51 | brlcad | poolio: I'd be surprised if it were upgradeable beyond you cracking it open for memory and HD upgrades |
| 22:45.28 | brlcad | and maybe not even that easily if it's using the ultra tiny drives that the ipods/iphones uses |
| 22:45.36 | poolio | brlcad: It doesn't have upgradeable memory, so I'm guessing the hd isn't :\ |
| 22:45.45 | poolio | And yes it is, 1.8" |
| 22:46.10 | brlcad | ah, then yeah.. you might find the drive if you hunt, but you might have to break a soldier lead to install it |
| 22:46.31 | brlcad | maybe a pin connector if you're lucky |
| 22:46.36 | poolio | The 80gb is 4200rpm, but I'm not going to shell out 1000 for a SSD. |
| 22:46.48 | brlcad | yeah, that's what I was saying |
| 22:46.54 | brlcad | the price of SSD's are just still expensive |
| 22:47.03 | poolio | brlcad: I probably wouldn't bother then. It seems like a machine that's prone to breaking and I'd definitely be getting applecare. Wouldn't want to void the warranty |
| 22:47.05 | brlcad | I mean, 1k for that drive is actually a pretty damn good deal |
| 22:47.13 | brlcad | that's the cheapest I've seen for that size |
| 22:47.21 | brlcad | newegg has one at around 1.5k |
| 22:47.22 | poolio | I guess, but the difference between 2k and 3k is a lot. |
| 22:47.55 | poolio | And they are going to have to drop in price in the very near future. I mean look at flash drives, 16mb ones use to be like $50 |
| 22:48.09 | brlcad | i'd suggest getting applecare no matter the product.. apple's support is pretty fantastic, one of the top-rated year over year |
| 22:48.23 | brlcad | yeah, but that's mb :) |
| 22:48.52 | brlcad | the gb ssd's will come down quickly .. probably in half within 8 months |
| 22:49.21 | brlcad | i see that laptop as a great mobile platform for when you already have a really powerful home system in place |
| 22:49.48 | brlcad | it's designed around access to other wireless services being around |
| 22:50.09 | brlcad | HD's, media/content, optical drives |
| 22:56.27 | PrezKennedy | Windows is stupid |
| 22:56.53 | ``Erik | it has a lot of ancient "single machine just to drive a printer" still left in it |
| 22:57.49 | ``Erik | later, kids |
| 23:04.54 | poolio | hrmph. The footprint compared with the pro is pretty lame. If only they'd gone with a thin bezel... |
| 23:12.12 | brlcad | footprint of? |
| 23:14.32 | poolio | the macbook air |
| 23:14.47 | poolio | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/01/aircomp02.jpg |
| 23:20.23 | brlcad | definitely stylish |
| 23:20.51 | brlcad | makes the MBP look kinda plain .. remember it used to be the sexy beast when it came out |
| 23:21.42 | brlcad | hum, nice trackpad |
| 23:28.57 | poolio | I mean there are a ton of pros and cons. One USB port is pretty ridiculous. And because the superdrive has special something or other, you can't plug it into a USB hub. So you can't superdrive+other devices. |
| 23:39.17 | louipc | lol everyone's talking about the macbook air |
| 23:41.52 | poolio | Well, it's what I've been waiting 2 months for.. |
| 23:48.14 | brlcad | :) |
| 23:51.08 | brlcad | the apple tv actually is slightly more interesting to me now with the upgrade, one more way to stick it to comcast .. the pricepoint is so close |
| 23:51.59 | poolio | people are saying the air is going the way of the apple tv / cube :) |
| 23:52.03 | brlcad | though the new rental fees are a bit absurd (about as absurd as their non-hd movie prices) |
