IRC log for #brlcad on 20080116

00:20.43 brlcad apple tv is a bit before it's time .. most folks don't have their video collections digital yet or an easy means to get them that way
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02:16.10 brlcad so the ohloh stats seem to match within reason
02:16.32 brlcad there are discrepancies in the way SVN and CVS repositories are managed/tracked
02:17.15 brlcad the biggest probably being that ohloh considers property changes as code changes, which increased our overall stats a couple percent
02:17.39 brlcad looks like they properly find our bsd files now though, that's nice
02:17.52 brlcad can't imagine why that failed with CVS, but it's working now
02:18.57 brlcad ohloh is also better at collapsing CVS commits into one atomic commit transaction than cvs2svn, which accounts for about 1039 additional commits
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04:39.17 brlcad ~cadsvn
04:39.18 ibot To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad
04:58.15 Twingy neat
06:29.08 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29951 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: (log message trimmed)
06:29.08 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: new example footer using c-file-style so that the style is encouraged more
06:29.08 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: strictly. setting the c-file-style effectly causes a c-set-style to get invoked
06:29.08 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: for that buffer, with the predefined 'stroustrup' style most closely matching
06:29.08 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: our convention (it's basically 'k&r' with 4-char indents), this fixes the
06:29.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: braindead default 'gnu' style emacs uses that indents the c-offsets-alist
06:29.13 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: substatement-open style parameter a level (i.e., open brace curlies are indented
06:35.13 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29952 10/brlcad/trunk/sh/footer.sh: add a c-file-style to the C files and remove their corresponding c-basic-offset lines. can't override the c-basic-offset if using a style, not that we want/need to with stroustrup since it matches our offset
06:38.37 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29953 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: (log message trimmed)
06:38.37 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: include the list of remaining mged tasks for this release and the next,
06:38.37 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: including the questions and comments mentioned at the last arl/brl-cad
06:38.37 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: configuration control board meeting. immediate tasks include fixing mged i/o on
06:38.38 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: puts/gets; text flooding; disabling mged auto-backgrounding; and fixing
06:38.40 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: tclConfig.sh problems. next are verifying/testing pix-fb -p, clone mirroring,
06:38.42 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: dbconcat with a prefix, and pushing primitives. longer term is windows smp
06:41.01 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29954 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: change the ordering so the c-file-style is last
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07:07.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29955 10/brlcad/trunk/ (1302 files in 68 dirs):
07:07.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: set a c-file-style globally in the local variables footer, setting it to the
07:07.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: built-in 'stroustrup' style. that style is basically the 'k&r' style with
07:07.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 4-char indents (otherwise emacs' 'k&r' style has 5-char indents), which matches
07:07.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: our convention. you can't specify c-basic-offset when you used c-file-style
07:07.13 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: apparently (at least as of emacs 21.2.1) but conveniently the 'stroustrup' style
07:07.15 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: matches so we don't have to care.
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10:32.30 Z80-Boy brlcad: how did they model the Cern od Hubble Telescope when if I model Ronja, it becomes unusably slow?
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13:52.49 ``Erik "unusuably slow"?
14:04.39 Z80-Boy Yeah
14:04.45 Z80-Boy A redraw in mged takes 30 seconds or so
14:05.57 ``Erik on ronja? O.o wow, are you using a 386 or something? :D
14:06.11 ``Erik I've seen it take 30 seconds on a redraw, but that was on a bot with literally millions of triangles
14:09.40 Z80-Boy No Pentium M 1.5GHz and 0.5GiB RAM
14:10.44 Z80-Boy ronja.twibright.com/3d/comparison.g
14:10.49 Z80-Boy and type "B comparison"
14:11.48 Z80-Boy In multipane mode
14:12.35 Z80-Boy And t's running on *LOCAL* X of course
14:29.46 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29956 10/brlcad/trunk/src/liborle/rle.c: cleanup and restructure, apply style, remove decls
14:30.09 ``Erik brlcad, jlo is trying ot get a hold of you
14:30.36 brlcad k
14:36.08 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29957 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac:
14:36.09 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: only look for the tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh files if we're not building tcl
14:36.09 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: or tk and need to load the config, otherwise having TCL_BIN_DIR set isn't too
14:36.09 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: useful (the --with/--without flags are still available). this should fix the
14:36.09 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: configure exit being encountered on some systems when a system tcl/tk isn't
14:36.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: already installed (i.e., the WARNING: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions
14:36.13 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 'error')
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15:52.12 brlcad ahh
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15:59.18 tarzeau Z80-Boy: hey pitchotron has a broken download link
15:59.35 tarzeau oh wait it works now
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16:15.24 poolio Hmm
16:15.43 poolio Anyone know a 5 byte long string seperated by '.' would be? Like an IP but one more, and it's not IPv5 hah
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17:01.19 alex_joni poolio: how many bytes in each term? only one?
17:04.53 poolio yeah
17:05.00 poolio I think I've got it now, GPS coordinates in a bizarre format :P
17:05.06 alex_joni heh
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17:18.29 alex_joni poolio: now you had me read the wikipedia GPS article :)
17:20.05 alex_joni I had no idea they adapt the clocks in the GPS satellites based on Einsteins theory of relativity
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18:25.48 ``Erik so, uh, gps time is relative? O.o
18:25.58 ``Erik </badpun>
18:26.17 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29958 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/isst/observer/: you have to delete the directories too when they're empty with svn since they're tracked entities (you can svn rm an entire subdir as one-operation)
18:26.43 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29959 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: remove the src/adrt/isst/observer/Makefile entry since the dir is empty/gone
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20:53.46 brlcad ah, sgi cube script updated and renders now
21:03.24 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29960 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (Makefile.am sgi.sh):
21:03.24 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: add an example of creating geometry using basic shell scripting. the example
21:03.24 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: shows several ways for passing modeling commands to mged, creates the .g
21:03.25 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: geometry file, sets material properties, and renders the model to an image.
21:03.25 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: don't install it, just an example.
21:05.39 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29961 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ged.c: Hack to get "puts" working on Windows. Still need to look at this on the other platforms.
21:07.43 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r29962 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (dm-X.c dm-ogl.c dm-tk.c dm-wgl.c): if_name not getting properly terminated (i.e. not eos)
21:19.01 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29963 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/sgi.sh: keep a png
21:39.11 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29964 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_metaball.c: Improve text display routines to provide more informative render method information as well as "good" when needed. Add functions to translate between a numeric method ID and a human readable string. Minor format cleanup.
21:46.48 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r29965 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_metaball.c: Wrapper for multiple normal methods added. Isopotential normals fixed with the help of Ed.
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21:57.54 CIA-30 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29966 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/sgi.sh: match the cube rendering more closely lining up the center better, adding a little bit of perspective, and using a tube radius that better approximates. keep the png as sgi.png..
23:00.19 brlcad argh, I went to upload a big image and it warned that it was big, so I scaled it down and uploaded it. Now it says "No higher resolution available" on the small one..
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