| 00:19.51 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r29979 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/tedit.c: ted on an arb now displays the expected vertices |
| 00:20.06 | brlcad | john rocks |
| 00:31.11 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r29980 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_arb.c: added some minimal comments to rt_arb_get_cgtype |
| 00:49.30 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r29981 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/tedit.c: oops, sorry Bob, I stomped on one of your changes |
| 01:05.22 | starseeker | brlcad? |
| 01:10.26 | brlcad | hm? |
| 01:17.39 | starseeker | When should I be at QRI tomorrow? |
| 03:21.59 | louipc | what would that be for? |
| 03:25.23 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29982 10/brlcad/branches/STABLE/ (72 files in 19 dirs): set svn:executable on all scripts (particularly so ./autogen.sh will work on checkout) |
| 03:55.39 | starseeker | louipc: A new form of uselessly and pointlessly expensive computer case |
| 03:56.03 | louipc | nice |
| 03:56.42 | starseeker | I can see it now - a new PC being marketed as the "Stealth Bomber" gaming pc |
| 03:58.51 | poolio | Ooo. Macbook Air + stealth technology = manilla envelope |
| 03:59.29 | louipc | hahaa |
| 03:59.42 | starseeker | Heh - there was speculation on slashdot as to what markup Apple would be charging for THIS form of black... |
| 04:00.55 | starseeker | Any excuse to bulk produce nanotubes sounds good to me - the sooner they figure out how to do miles long coherent crystals of them the sooner we can take an elevator ride into space ;-) |
| 04:30.12 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29983 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: CVS is no more, update the docs for SVN |
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| 05:32.57 | openartist | I'm having issues installing brl-cad on os x, after install nothing appears in the applications folder, is there someone who can help me trouble shoot? |
| 05:39.42 | brlcad | hello openartist |
| 05:39.54 | openartist | hi |
| 05:39.57 | brlcad | BRL-CAD installs into /usr/brlcad |
| 05:40.07 | brlcad | it's a suite of tools, not a single app, so there's nothing in the apps dir |
| 05:40.32 | openartist | ah |
| 05:40.40 | brlcad | there are a couple gui apps that we could put into the apps dir, but it's not really worth it until we properly decouple from x11 |
| 05:41.31 | brlcad | the easiest way to get started is to run x11 (in your apps/utilities folder) and in the xterm window run /usr/brlcad/bin/mged -f |
| 05:41.41 | openartist | i don't know why though I don't find anything in any directory |
| 05:41.55 | brlcad | because /usr is a 'hidden' directory to Finder |
| 05:42.04 | openartist | ah |
| 05:42.05 | openartist | got it |
| 05:42.07 | brlcad | you can't get to it through the finder, only on the command line by default |
| 05:42.22 | brlcad | unless you "unhide" /usr (which I wouldn't recommend unless you know linux/unix) |
| 05:42.26 | openartist | thanks, I feel like a total noob |
| 05:43.15 | brlcad | no problem |
| 05:43.34 | brlcad | there are a ton more apps that may be of interest, and a lot of docs and tutorials on the website |
| 05:43.42 | brlcad | including lots of mged docs |
| 05:43.50 | openartist | i don't know if I just overlooked something but it would be helpful if that was made explicit somewhere for mac users |
| 05:44.09 | brlcad | it's explicit in the installer :) |
| 05:44.17 | openartist | oh really? |
| 05:44.24 | openartist | i didn't see it |
| 05:44.26 | brlcad | yeah.. big bold letters :) |
| 05:44.32 | openartist | ilol |
| 05:44.49 | openartist | well I guess I just lost all credibility |
| 05:45.06 | brlcad | nah, everyone gets used to ignoring those readme statements |
| 05:45.38 | openartist | isn't that true |
| 05:45.49 | brlcad | the fix really is to decouple from X11 and let users drag-and-drop the install to whereever you want, but we're not there yet |
| 05:45.50 | openartist | so I have the xterm open |
| 05:46.02 | PrezKennedy | i got used to the README being pretty much useless for most apps |
| 05:46.07 | openartist | what's the command to run an application? |
| 05:46.42 | openartist | yeah, sometimes I would write something else instead of readme knowing that would be sure to get it ignored |
| 05:46.54 | brlcad | /usr/brlcad/bin/mged -f |
| 05:47.24 | brlcad | if you want to see an example, you could run: /usr/brlcad/bin/mged -f /usr/brlcad/share/brlcad/7.10.4/db/havoc.g |
| 05:48.42 | brlcad | then in mged, run the Tools -> Geometry Browser, double-click havoc |
| 05:49.08 | brlcad | File -> Raytrace Control Panel -> Raytrace to render the view |
| 05:49.43 | brlcad | you won't get very far exploring without going through the tutorial series.. it's pretty much *necessary* |
| 05:50.28 | openartist | <trying> |
| 05:50.54 | openartist | so I see a blue screen |
| 05:50.58 | openartist | going to tools |
| 05:51.16 | openartist | clicking on havoc open up a folder |
| 05:52.38 | openartist | okay |
| 05:52.59 | openartist | do you use brl regularly? |
| 05:53.04 | openartist | professionally? |
| 05:57.13 | brlcad | yes |
| 05:57.49 | brlcad | there's a whole team of people that do in the US Govt |
| 05:58.16 | brlcad | and teams throughout industry |
| 05:59.03 | PrezKennedy | any in the construction industry? |
| 05:59.32 | brlcad | there was a construction company down in florida that was using brl-cad to design houses |
| 06:09.04 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29984 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Bob implemented support for MGED classic mode on Windows, adding a hack that goes through tcl i/o routines (i.e. doesn't use the same read/write calls as elsewhere) |
| 06:18.15 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29985 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Bob fixed a bug in mged's rcc-cap command where using the 't' option didn't work due to curlie braces that wrapped a tcl var going to vadd2. removed the curlies and it now works. |
| 06:29.09 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29986 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: erik improved the metaball rendering with the addition of a blobbyness/gooeyness factor that can be set. also added improved text display routines. |
| 06:29.51 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29987 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: erik and ed fixed a bug in the calculation of normals for metaballs |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29988 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: John fixed a bug in g_diff where differences between objects were getting missed |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: due to the command not keeping track of the count of differences that had |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: accummulated up to that point. there was also an incorrect strcmp call that had |
| 06:35.24 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: the wrong truth value getting tested. this fixes a bug reported by David Loman |
| 06:35.26 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: ([ 1865987 ] g_diff fails to see BoT Orientation change) |
| 06:45.25 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29989 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 06:45.25 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: bob improved the mged ted command on windows, making the files being written out |
| 06:45.25 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: actually use windows line terminators so they don't wrap around as one line. he |
| 06:45.25 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: also made wordpad the default editor instead of notepad (user can still |
| 06:45.25 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: override) -- this responds to requests for functional text edit support on |
| 06:45.28 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: windows from several bnd modelers |
| 06:51.55 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29990 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 06:51.55 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: John Anderson improved the way the ted command in mged deals with ARBs that are |
| 06:51.55 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: less than ARB8s (e.g. an ARB6) .. instead of duplicating the points and |
| 06:51.55 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: requiring users to edit the duplications, only present them with the # points |
| 06:51.55 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: for their ARB#. this fixes a bug report submitted by karel/clock3 where there |
| 06:51.58 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: was unexpected behavior that the edits where intenional and that the user had to |
| 06:52.00 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: edit the duplicates ([ 1842596 ] ted on arbn6 doesn't change vertices) |
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| 12:52.03 | b0ef | brlcad: right, I'll request IGES-G, then, but am I able to extract what I need in brlcad? |
| 12:52.35 | b0ef | brlcad: along with the original proe, of course |
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| 16:20.15 | poolio | brlcad: unrelated to brlcad question :) on mbo, when I resize my local terminal, the console gets all garbled. Any idea? |
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| 19:28.43 | prasad_ | http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/94/1 |
| 19:45.33 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29991 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libwdb/brep.cpp: |
| 19:45.33 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: need a copy of the users brep here because wdb_export will free the brep when |
| 19:45.33 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: it's done with it. mk_brep doesn't need to claim the brep, so we can let |
| 19:45.33 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: callers keep using that brep with mods for future mk_brep() calls (with a |
| 19:45.33 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: different name) |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29992 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (brep_cube.cpp brep_simple.cpp): |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: the two lines aren't needed, and the edge orientations do seem to make sense so |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: remove the XXX ???'s. since mk_brep changed, we need to delete the brep |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: ourselves (which is good because we had to new it in the first place) |
| 19:49.48 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29993 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: |
| 19:49.48 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: provide an initial implementation of the describe command that uses the ON |
| 19:49.48 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: Dump() call for describing arbitrary breps consistently. ... so nice to be able |
| 19:49.48 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: to use mid-scope decls.. *sigh*. also remove the m_object_table count debug |
| 19:49.48 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: statement. |
| 19:51.53 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29994 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (Makefile.am breplicator.cpp): add a new breplicator proc-db test app for creating a variety of brep geometry. not yet complete but it will make a brep with some points in it, saving out to a .g file. next step, create a variety of arbs. |
| 20:00.45 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29995 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_nurb.c: call it a NURBS solid |
| 20:01.19 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29996 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: give the initial describe line a more informative label of BREP object. |
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| 21:40.04 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 21:41.25 | illethal | Good day |
| 21:47.15 | illethal | So are all of you math-whizes? |
| 21:47.54 | yukonbob | no :) |
| 21:48.16 | illethal | Don't you have to be one to use BRL-CAD? |
| 21:48.21 | yukonbob | (depending on definition of "whiz") |
| 21:49.04 | yukonbob | illethal: if you've got a good imagination (ie: can imagine CSG concepts) and some basic math skills you can make stuff... |
| 21:49.29 | illethal | Good. |
| 21:49.43 | yukonbob | of course, the more resources you (personally) bring to the table, the more interesting your work can be... |
| 21:49.44 | illethal | 'Cause I suck at math =P |
| 21:49.54 | yukonbob | illethal: are you a programmer? |
| 21:50.01 | illethal | Nope. |
| 21:50.06 | illethal | I'm more or less an artist. |
| 21:50.40 | yukonbob | digital or "analogue"? |
| 21:50.46 | illethal | Both |
| 21:50.47 | illethal | Haha |
| 21:51.15 | illethal | 3D, music, 2D graphic design, sculpting and all that other crap =P |
| 21:52.24 | yukonbob | ah -- /me remembers -- you've been hanging out here for a while -- you should just jump in a try it out ;) |
| 21:52.43 | illethal | Yeah I was playing with archer not too long ago. |
| 21:52.50 | illethal | Can't really do nothing but make cones and cubes. |
| 21:53.04 | illethal | http://micah.noobgrinder.com/3d/deathplow.jpg |
| 21:53.10 | illethal | This is what I'm working on in Maya as of the moment |
| 21:53.36 | yukonbob | though part (a lot) of the strength of brlcad is it's analysis tools -- assuming you're more interested in "just" getting images to screen, you might also want to check out POVRay |
| 21:53.55 | illethal | Oh yeah |
| 21:54.00 | illethal | POVRay was the first 3D prog I've ever used. |
| 21:54.09 | illethal | Never made anything with it. |
| 21:54.11 | illethal | But it was free =P |
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| 23:25.47 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29997 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: remove the first line (ON_Brep:) of the description |
| 23:27.24 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29998 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/breplicator.cpp: create vertices, curves, and edges for the test cube |
| 23:28.06 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r29999 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/breplicator.cpp: use SMALL_FASTF instead of VDIVIDE_TOL |
| 23:43.33 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30000 10/brlcad/trunk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): more cleanup, referencing, and checking for subversion dirs where it used to check for cvs |
| 23:43.48 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30001 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_brep.h: fix typo, s/trin/trim/ |
| 23:44.49 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30002 10/brlcad/trunk/Makefile.am: dist-hook is probably busted for finding files not added to the dist, need to update for svn so leave a FIXME comment for now. |
