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| 03:39.32 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30053 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/ (tcl/unix/ tk/unix/): ignore the stub libs |
| 03:40.43 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30054 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/: ignore breplicator |
| 03:42.38 | brlcad | cause afaik, vas4 is dead .. as soon as it requires maintenance, it'll probably be time to remove it |
| 03:45.59 | ``Erik | I think it was a compiler issue |
| 03:46.20 | ``Erik | I wante dto talk to you about retiring it on my way out, but you were on the phone |
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| 03:48.04 | yukonbob | hello, starseeker |
| 03:48.09 | starseeker | Howdy |
| 03:48.24 | starseeker | how goes it? |
| 03:48.30 | yukonbob | not bad -- yourself? |
| 03:48.42 | starseeker | Tired :-). I'm about done with moving... |
| 03:48.46 | yukonbob | :) |
| 03:48.47 | starseeker | or it's about done with me... |
| 03:48.58 | yukonbob | What are you going to be working on when you start? |
| 03:49.01 | ``Erik | lewis black is pretty funny in his new special |
| 03:49.13 | ``Erik | yukon: fetching coffee and such |
| 03:49.17 | ``Erik | :D |
| 03:49.18 | starseeker | lol |
| 03:49.19 | yukonbob | hehehe |
| 03:49.45 | ``Erik | it'll take at least a week to get a computer account all lined up and permitted |
| 03:50.04 | starseeker | Yeah, basic stuff to start. Right at the moment I'm just doing alot of paperwork |
| 03:50.23 | ``Erik | lots of paperwork |
| 03:50.47 | ``Erik | uh, sf86, interims, aup, etc |
| 03:50.49 | yukonbob | ~karma starseeker |
| 03:50.49 | ibot | starseeker has karma of 2 |
| 03:50.56 | yukonbob | ~karma yukonbob |
| 03:50.56 | ibot | yukonbob has karma of 2 |
| 03:51.06 | ``Erik | no, the only reason I have an arl purchased coffee cup is cuz I stole it |
| 03:51.16 | starseeker | Ah :-). |
| 03:51.16 | ``Erik | from the director O.o |
| 03:51.48 | ``Erik | slad director, I stole one of pauls "slad" cups |
| 03:51.49 | ``Erik | :) |
| 03:51.50 | yukonbob | I _was_ going to say maybe when I reach starseeker's level of karma, I'll get a job @ arl too -- and we can get paid to build Saturn models in BRL-CAD |
| 03:52.37 | starseeker | yukonbob: That's a tad useless even for worst-case pork spending, unless perhaps the Smithsonian commissions a Saturn V model... |
| 03:52.52 | ``Erik | sorry, bob, you're a canuck, so us gov't doesn't consider you to be a sentient being :( |
| 03:52.53 | yukonbob | heh |
| 03:52.59 | yukonbob | feh |
| 03:53.05 | yukonbob | that's OK -- England took me |
| 03:53.07 | louipc | wgha? |
| 03:53.30 | ``Erik | sweet |
| 03:53.41 | yukonbob | will be... |
| 03:54.08 | starseeker | yukonbob: I still think the unrestricted Saturn V blueprints (if any) would be a great demo for the BRL-CAD software |
| 03:54.26 | starseeker | yukonbob: That's likely something I'll be doing in my retirement... |
| 03:54.40 | yukonbob | starseeker: indeed it would -- it'd be cool in many ways |
| 03:55.03 | ``Erik | buddy of mine, colin, did his doctorate at oxford, damn smart boy |
| 03:55.38 | starseeker | I'm getting the impression the publicly available screenshots of BRL-CAD don't even begin to hint at what it can do, but of course engineering drawings of sufficient complexity to really show it off are a tad hard to come by in the public domain... |
| 03:55.39 | ``Erik | he claims to have the shortest thesis out of the cs dept there |
| 03:55.46 | ``Erik | ohhhhhh, heh |
| 03:55.57 | ``Erik | ummm |
| 03:56.26 | ``Erik | the birdcage stryker was a BRL-CAD model converted to adt for rise, and the grass added using blender |
| 03:56.44 | ``Erik | thought I think it was a pro-e model that was converted and cleaned up |
| 03:56.49 | starseeker | :-) |
| 03:56.50 | yukonbob | starseeker: I bet the public digs pretty pix like that 6-wheel vehicle (which _is_ an awesome render), and other visibly 'kewl' things |
| 03:56.58 | ``Erik | the birdcage may've been done in brlcad |
| 03:57.24 | starseeker | yukonbob: Yeah, visually complex is good. |
| 03:57.28 | yukonbob | ah -- that's the one I was thinking of -- the stryker... |
| 03:57.33 | ``Erik | we have ummm, a hubble model, a hilux truck, and an mi28 |
| 03:57.36 | ``Erik | 8 wheel, not 6 |
| 03:57.45 | starseeker | Is the hubble model in the public tree? |
| 03:57.48 | ``Erik | though it is of the lav family, which has anywhere form 4 to 8 wheels |
| 03:57.52 | yukonbob | what's a pair of wheels among friends? |
| 03:58.23 | ``Erik | stryker is a pile anyways, half of it is made in canada *cough* :D |
| 03:58.43 | yukonbob | well -- hopefully once the website is more up/running and there a wiki/gallery, pix will come out of the wordwork. |
| 03:59.09 | ``Erik | karel has some engineering grade crap on his site |
| 03:59.23 | yukonbob | url? |
| 03:59.25 | ``Erik | I'd kinda like to bust out a tape measure and model my house some day |
| 03:59.38 | yukonbob | ``Erik: /me has had that idea for a while too |
| 03:59.43 | ``Erik | http://ronja.twibright.com/ |
| 03:59.54 | yukonbob | ;) |
| 04:00.15 | ``Erik | we had a summer student come and do a model of a reasonably large house from blueprints |
| 04:00.31 | ``Erik | I THINK he managed to get all the studs in, too |
| 04:00.31 | brlcad | I have some of the old/original GSI BRL-CAD renderings that can probably finally be posted |
| 04:00.40 | yukonbob | oh -- karel == Z80-Boy |
| 04:00.44 | starseeker | That would be cool |
| 04:00.54 | ``Erik | yeah, karel == clock == z80 |
| 04:01.33 | yukonbob | ya -- that ronja stuff is pretty neat... |
| 04:01.40 | ``Erik | there're um, m1 pics that'd been public released, that was modelled entirely in old BRL-CAD |
| 04:01.43 | yukonbob | I wonder how many hours went into it... |
| 04:01.45 | brlcad | that stryker was a hybrid iirc, predominantly started as pro/e but the slat armor and some other details weren't |
| 04:02.03 | ``Erik | like in the second volume of the doc, few pages in is a "skinless" render |
| 04:02.21 | PrezKennedy | i should steal my dad's nick if ts still available on freenode |
| 04:02.34 | ``Erik | yeah, and some of the proe stuff was gutted and redone in BRL-CAD primitives |
| 04:02.51 | ``Erik | I know dwayne got heavy on doing that once I got him a clone prototype |
| 04:03.08 | ``Erik | um |
| 04:03.10 | starseeker | ``Erik: How |
| 04:03.13 | starseeker | sorry |
| 04:03.13 | ``Erik | kermit: No such nick/channel |
| 04:03.26 | starseeker | ``Erik: How'd the Hubble get a BRL-CAD model, by the way? |
| 04:03.42 | ``Erik | I think that may've been a hair lee got up his ass |
| 04:03.55 | ``Erik | he worked at nasa before brl |
| 04:04.19 | brlcad | yeah, lee was working on a project for the STSI at the time |
| 04:04.54 | brlcad | that was one of the relatively 'first' real things he modeled |
| 04:05.11 | yukonbob | is there a BNF available to describe the .g format? |
| 04:05.33 | ``Erik | no, but there's a description in a file that's sorta almost kinda recent |
| 04:05.53 | yukonbob | poolio: LaTeX is sooo 1990's -- we all [heart] DocBook now... |
| 04:06.02 | yukonbob | :) |
| 04:06.04 | ``Erik | the librt and wdb stuff is reasonably ok to read |
| 04:06.07 | PrezKennedy | \whois kermit |
| 04:06.14 | PrezKennedy | dangit |
| 04:06.21 | PrezKennedy | too much interaction with windoze |
| 04:06.22 | ``Erik | like, uh, in the libt/g_*.c files, look at the import and export 5 functions |
| 04:06.30 | starseeker | DocBook is good for very specific types of documentation - those not needing heavy duty mathematics |
| 04:06.48 | ``Erik | I like LaTeX |
| 04:07.33 | yukonbob | latex is cool -- and in fact all the docbook work I've done converts to LaTeX, then LaTeX->pdf |
| 04:07.46 | poolio | yukonbob: :'( |
| 04:08.00 | poolio | yukonbob: I have to typeset all my math homework now |
| 04:08.04 | ``Erik | I've only done a tiny bit of docbook type shtuff |
| 04:08.23 | yukonbob | starseeker: I'd be surprised if there's not math-oriented "docbook" tools out there... |
| 04:08.26 | ``Erik | both docbook and latex have overly verbose close tags imnsho |
| 04:08.56 | brlcad | the two 'Plate' renderings (albeit "misfiled") in http://my.brlcad.org/tmp/primitives/ are a nicely detailed pure-csg model |
| 04:09.09 | yukonbob | poolio: I was only kidding... :) I have two LaTeX manuals that are really nice to have -- once you outgrow the "LaTeX in 20 Minutes" or whatever that text is... |
| 04:10.12 | ``Erik | yeah, those're the m1 "skinless" renders |
| 04:10.23 | ``Erik | one of those is in one of the books |
| 04:10.41 | brlcad | both are (or at least were) |
| 04:11.22 | starseeker | brlcad: are those the ones someone worried about being on the website even though they were cleared for release? |
| 04:11.55 | brlcad | starseeker: one of them, yes |
| 04:12.21 | ``Erik | um, that was one that got striken from a poster pitch |
| 04:12.32 | ``Erik | struck |
| 04:12.33 | ``Erik | bleh |
| 04:12.34 | brlcad | once we have the new website on-line with a proper way to annotate/document the images, when/how released, with descriptions, it'll be better |
| 04:12.46 | starseeker | Yes. |
| 04:12.50 | ``Erik | lees proposalcouldn't get approved with that pic on it |
| 04:13.00 | starseeker | Really?? |
| 04:13.01 | brlcad | ``Erik: yeah, probably, but those are all what you get via the 'make' cmd |
| 04:13.11 | ``Erik | png has a comment field O.o |
| 04:13.49 | brlcad | different decades, different folks |
| 04:13.58 | yukonbob | poolio: I think I've got "The LaTeX Companion" and "Guide to LaTeX"... |
| 04:15.03 | poolio | I'm really upset, I can't make the QED symbol and I'm done my proof! |
| 04:15.27 | starseeker | There are some solutions for structured picture viewing - remember something called Scientific Image Database from the mists of time... |
| 04:18.10 | starseeker | OK, time to put the brain in bureaucracy recovery mode (a.k.a sleep...) |
| 04:18.52 | ``Erik | ams-latex has a proof environment that parks a qed mark at the end |
| 04:20.03 | ``Erik | google for "latex qed" gives lots of hits |
| 04:20.34 | starseeker | Too bad they can't release the hubble model - that'd be cool (particularly if the ray-tracing could interact with the optics...) |
| 04:21.36 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30055 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/parse.c: |
| 04:21.36 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: one more converted over to bu_strlcpy/bu_strlcat. this one was intentionally |
| 04:21.36 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: skipped initially as there's a strncpy going on that intentionally is |
| 04:21.36 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: short-copying a buffer. didn't investigate the cause, whether intentional or |
| 04:21.36 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: not, but leaving alone with a note for now. |
| 04:30.03 | brlcad | possibly, but it's hard to get your hands on some of those models |
| 04:30.26 | Axman6 | the commies might get them! |
| 04:31.14 | louipc | china? |
| 04:31.28 | brlcad | I had contacts to a couple gusy for the mars rover project a couples years ago and could have gotten the model they used in the ubiquitous animation renderings, but still wouldn't have been able to make it public |
| 04:31.47 | Axman6 | lame |
| 04:32.02 | Axman6 | well... i made a paper model when i was a kid... could ou use that? |
| 04:32.07 | Axman6 | it's a little squished |
| 04:34.54 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30056 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/tedit.c: if your gonna tweak ws, might as well do the whole file |
| 04:35.42 | louipc | heh |
| 04:37.09 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30057 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob got all of the mged text editing commands (edcodes, edmater, wmater, ted, etc) on the windows platform |
| 04:37.59 | ``Erik | um, siggraph 05? |
| 04:38.41 | ``Erik | vgr, er, voyager might be old enough to be releasable |
| 04:40.18 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30058 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 04:40.19 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: Bob also got rtwizard working on windows (at least partially -- he still has to |
| 04:40.19 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: add a few missing commands for some of the extended modes). also made the |
| 04:40.19 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: display managers behave better by automatically deiconifying if needed. |
| 04:40.37 | ``Erik | heh |
| 04:40.56 | ``Erik | I loaned dave a couple tcl books this morning, he's going to b working on rewriting that |
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| 05:40.37 | brlcad | yeah, I know .. but that's might still be months off and he might still get pulled onto something else |
| 05:41.40 | brlcad | ed had an interesting idea for a quick fix geometry conversion path by using [commercial cad package X] -> STEP/IGES -> Rhino -> 3DM -> BRL-CAD via a new 3dm-g converter that uses the new BREP primitive |
| 05:42.24 | brlcad | that has a lot of great short-term and long-term merit if it were implemented well enough .. gives a fast conversion path and a new converter all in one step |
| 05:42.34 | brlcad | I might have to work on that just as part of the brep implementation testing |
| 06:30.14 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30059 10/brlcad/trunk/ (172 files in 25 dirs): even MORE K&R ws style consistency cleanup. this time, make sure there's a space between the ){'s as well as around "else" statements. |
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| 07:06.02 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30060 10/brlcad/trunk/ (17 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:06.02 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: refactor libpkg so that the windows-specific pkg_init and pkg_terminate |
| 07:06.02 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: functions should no longer be necessary. according to the msdn docs, the |
| 07:06.02 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: functions may be called multiple times as they internally reference count the |
| 07:06.02 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: number of calls to each and deallocated on the last/matching WSACleanup that |
| 07:06.04 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: corresponds to the number of calls to WSAStartup. the calls were moved directly |
| 07:06.06 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: into pkg_open and pkg_close (which will get picked up by all callers including |
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| 07:33.45 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30061 10/brlcad/trunk/src/burst/Sc.h: quell warnings and remove non-ansi decls by removing the oddly named _STDC_ sections |
| 07:34.47 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30062 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/unix/: ends up with a libtclstub8.5.a.E in here anyways, so add to ignore list |
| 07:38.27 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30063 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/: ignore librttherm.a and libremrt.a |
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| 10:41.49 | Gruni | Hideho. |
| 12:20.33 | starseeker | Interesting - apparently someone has located some of the old Pioneer probe drawings: http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/vault2006/pioneerbp.zip |
| 12:21.34 | Z80-Boy | made in BRL-CAD? |
| 12:21.50 | starseeker | Don't think so |
| 12:22.09 | starseeker | these look like they either are or are based off of the 2D prints NASA would have used |
| 12:22.44 | starseeker | Naturally it doesn't seem to include much in the way of dimensions... grumble... |
| 13:36.36 | b0ef | brlcad: I'm requesting iges-g then, but are we able to use these files in brlcad? |
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| 15:31.07 | brlcad | b0ef: depends what level of use you're looking for and what sort of iges it is -- you should be able to at least bring in the model, perform basic transformations, basic analyses (it should be nirtable), and render it |
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| 16:20.03 | starseeker | brlcad: Is it still the case that BRL-CAD doesn't have a simple way to recover deleted geometry? (E.g. an undo option?) |
| 16:29.53 | brlcad | nope, there is no undo in mged |
| 16:30.36 | brlcad | there are commit actions that don't immediately apply, like solid edit mode, but once you apply/reject/accept, the action is atomic and done |
| 16:31.50 | brlcad | a long-standing request but was actually a specific design intent, at least initially |
| 16:32.23 | brlcad | i don't think anyone is opposed to the idea of undo any more, but the details to implement it properly are a bit tricky |
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| 18:23.22 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30065 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/FbPage.itk: Mods to get things working on Windows. |
| 18:25.27 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30066 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/bw-pix.c: Tweak for compiling on Windows. |
| 18:29.13 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30067 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (archer/archer.bat mged/mged.bat): Minor tweaks. |
| 18:32.24 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30068 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ (raytrace.h rtgeom.h): Moved a few metaball function declarations from rtgeom.h to raytrace.h. |
| 18:38.14 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30069 10/brlcad/trunk/ (doc/deprecation.txt include/bu.h src/libbu/brlcad_path.c): make bu_brlcad_root/bu_brlcad_data both return a const char * instead of a char * so callers are more aware that they should copy the string if they want to modify it |
| 19:30.17 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30070 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_disk.c: Added a call to setmode() in dsk_open(). This fixes the problem where bad pix files were getting created. |
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| 20:45.14 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30071 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 20:45.14 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: Bob fixed PIX image file creation bug on Windows .. this fixes a problem with |
| 20:45.15 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: many of the pix and framebuffer tools that render directly to a pix file via |
| 20:45.15 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: libfb. the problem was the file was not opened in 'binary mode', which is |
| 20:45.15 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: required on windows or it will perform EOL translations (wreaking all sorts of |
| 20:45.17 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: havoc of course with a pix image) |
| 20:46.40 | brlcad | ../../include/raytrace.h:3527: warning: 'struct rt_metaball_internal' declared inside parameter list |
| 20:46.43 | brlcad | ../../include/raytrace.h:3527: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want |
| 20:54.04 | ``Erik | heh, yeah, bob went moving my shit around |
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| 20:55.59 | ``Erik | he moved crap i defined in rtgeom.h (after the struct def) into raytrace.h, and a lot of stuff includes raytrace.h without rtgeom.h |
| 20:59.18 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30072 10/brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h: include a forward decl for struct defined in rtgeom.h |
| 21:00.11 | ``Erik | hackish, but works :/ |
| 21:07.10 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30073 10/brlcad/trunk/src/lgt/ (extern.h glob.c lgt.c): er, not clear why lgt request the data segment address .. don't do it so we can remove the sbrk check |
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| 21:52.12 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30075 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/config_win.h src/libbu/malloc.c): move the Windows-specific empty sbrk() hack into config_win.h as just being NULL |
| 22:26.49 | starseeker | brlcad, ``Erik: anybody still on? |
| 22:26.57 | brlcad | yes? |
| 22:27.09 | starseeker | Just wondering about the BRL-CAD shortcuts |
| 22:27.15 | starseeker | are they customizable? |
| 22:27.21 | starseeker | for movement, rotation, etc |
| 22:28.02 | brlcad | "BRL-CAD shortcuts"? I presume you mean "MGED shortcuts" ... ;) |
| 22:28.08 | starseeker | er, yeah :-) |
| 22:30.26 | brlcad | yeah, they can be customized -- it's all in tcl land for the bindings |
| 22:30.52 | starseeker | Cool |
| 22:31.00 | brlcad | but how easy and what exactly you have to do for a given binding or to make new ones isn't exactly well-defined or cleaned up for end-users to easily change |
| 22:31.10 | starseeker | Ah. |
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| 22:31.37 | brlcad | most people don't even know that the bindings exist other than the basics |
| 22:31.46 | brlcad | and there are different bindings for each window |
| 22:32.03 | brlcad | e.g. if you're in the command window, you sort of expect cursor control bindings |
| 22:32.21 | brlcad | the "hotkeys" in the graphics window, though, are just single keys |
| 22:33.11 | starseeker | I'm not sure it maps all that cleanly to mged... |
| 22:43.40 | brlcad | yeah, I could write a book on potential new-user usability improvements that mged could benefit from.. |
| 22:44.19 | brlcad | the issue is usually more that once you do know how things behave, you can be quite proficient .. and responsive to a wide range of modeling/analysis needs |
| 22:45.49 | starseeker | Oh, no question :-) I know I need to be patient. |
| 22:46.20 | brlcad | it's a sad result of continual on-going reprioritization .. do you stop and work on mged usability for new users (that are only new once) or work on new feature X that they need now |
| 22:46.55 | starseeker | Put that way, the choice is obvious |
| 22:47.24 | starseeker | to heck with the newbies :-P |
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| 22:52.23 | brlcad | yeah, but you can only keep saying that for so long |
| 22:52.27 | brlcad | before it's a major problem :) |
| 22:52.31 | brlcad | like it is now :) |
| 22:55.01 | louipc | you need some stats like the percentage of new users that continue to use brlcad after x amount of time, how often they use it, etc... |
| 22:55.24 | brlcad | a lot of the most fundamental problems stem from not having easy access to an evaluated representation (e.g. a csg implicit in evaluated brep form) .. which is where most of my long term plans have stemmed from (instead of stopping to tweak mged, for example) |
| 22:55.50 | louipc | I don't have much time to learn how to model in brlcad other than to toy with it once in awhile. |
| 22:56.21 | louipc | hm |
| 22:56.49 | brlcad | because I could make mged relatively as easy to use as other big-name cad packages for new users, but then there are still some critical issues like shaded displays and a clean geometry management api on the code side of things |
| 22:57.56 | brlcad | wow, this EMS is awesome .. and pretty damn strong, can't take the highest setting |
| 23:07.52 | louipc | hah |
| 23:11.04 | yukonbob | ?EMS |
| 23:13.45 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30076 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): finally remove the mk_poly/mk_polysolid/mk_fpoly routines for procedurally creating polysolid primitives. the BoT primitive replaced them a long while ago and have been marked obsolete more than long enough |
| 23:16.12 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30077 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/ (PictureTypeE.itcl PictureTypeF.itcl): Mods for running on Windows. Also cleaned up the catch statements. |
| 23:17.07 | brlcad | ~ems |
| 23:17.08 | ibot | i heard ems is an Electronic Muscle Stimulator .. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Muscle_Stimulation |
| 23:17.50 | brlcad | fun stuff :) |
| 23:19.03 | brlcad | first tried one at my physical therapist last year when I had a rotator cuff injury on my shoulder |
| 23:19.27 | alex_joni | sounds like "10 things you can't do while beeing electrocuted" from brainiac |
| 23:19.31 | brlcad | ordered one a couple days ago, arrived earlier today .. been using it for the past few hours playing with settings while I code :) |
| 23:20.55 | brlcad | should be really nice for workout warmup/recovery |
| 23:20.57 | alex_joni | http://www.g4tv.com/brainiac/videos/index.html |
| 23:21.32 | alex_joni | brlcad: don't try it while shaving :) |
| 23:25.31 | brlcad | hm, won't play here |
| 23:25.37 | brlcad | loads but doesn't play |
| 23:26.14 | brlcad | it locks up your muscle, I don't think I'd anything that required the muscles being stimulated |
| 23:26.30 | brlcad | the contractions can be quite intense depending on the setting |
| 23:38.14 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30078 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/rtif.c: quell warnings, bu_brlcad_* return const now |
| 23:42.39 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30079 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (picket_fence.c pix2g.c spltest.c): quell warnings |
| 23:45.02 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30080 10/brlcad/trunk/ (9 files in 8 dirs): finally remove the obsolete write_shell_as_polysolid that was replaced by mk_bot_from_nmg during the 6.0 release |
| 23:47.00 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30081 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (contours.c pix2g.c): quell warnings |
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| 23:59.17 | starseeker | Huh - anybody heard of these guys before? http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/guidelines.html |
| 23:59.33 | starseeker | Their archives seem to have quite a lot of drawings and photos of cool stuff :-) |