IRC log for #brlcad on 20080131

01:56.17 brlcad such a great presentation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE
02:44.36 yukonbob eta 50minutes -- :P
02:47.07 brlcad :)
02:47.31 brlcad it's worth it if you've not seen it and you participate in an open source project's community
02:47.40 brlcad (which you do) :)
02:47.46 yukonbob hey -- saw the books, and the notes :) -- thx
02:48.27 brlcad ben and brian are pretty well spoken, some fairly straightforward points, some obvious, some not so obvious -- but they put labels and emphasis to some behaviors that is useful ;)
02:48.37 brlcad really?
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02:49.11 brlcad yukon up in .ca ?
02:49.16 yukonbob yup
02:49.29 brlcad nifty -- you work there or live there or something?
02:50.33 yukonbob that's where Whitehorse is -- living -- not too much for work up here for me, so I'm an online geek -- "working" in/with Vancouver, Seattle, Toronto, UK, Australia...
02:50.55 brlcad nice
02:52.38 yukonbob my gf brought us up this time -- she's a cultural anthropologist doing her fieldwork up here...
02:53.11 brlcad being able to telework from anywhere has to have some major perks
02:54.35 yukonbob well, it makes it possible ;) -- it really is pretty impressive, though... I remember my first 'puter (Vic20), and introduction of faxes, BBSs, internet, etc. -- surely impressive how far we've come along -- and at same time, what's stuck around -- ia32 architecture, *nix... BRL-CAD ;)
02:55.51 brlcad hehe
02:56.09 yukonbob Tcl ;)
02:56.15 brlcad i'd say good things die hard, but then that doesn't explain ia32 :)
02:56.30 yukonbob ya -- it's a notable odd-duck in that list...
02:56.48 brlcad duck duck duck *goose*!
02:57.35 ``Erik dos/windows
02:57.40 ``Erik mice
02:57.42 ``Erik ...
02:57.55 ``Erik bad things die hard, too :D
02:58.36 ``Erik hehehe, bbs's... hayes 300baud modems on the card type rs232
02:58.39 ``Erik pheer
02:58.56 ``Erik so badass, you don't even need an audio coupler and telephone to log into the bbs's!
02:59.27 yukonbob howdy ``Erik :)
02:59.54 ``Erik http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/cbm/modems/1670.gif
03:00.06 ``Erik <-- had one of those, and a 300 that looked the same but had a black slide switch on the top
03:01.27 ``Erik heh
03:01.28 ``Erik uhhhh
03:01.36 ``Erik compuserve ? uhhh, qlink?
03:02.23 ``Erik poke 53280,0
03:02.27 ``Erik poke 53281,0
03:02.31 ``Erik leet hackr commodore now
03:02.39 yukonbob hey, leave my screen alone!
03:02.43 ``Erik :D
03:02.44 yukonbob top item --
03:02.56 ``Erik those were usually the firt two commands I did on start
03:03.44 ``Erik me too
03:03.50 ``Erik on a c64 actually
03:03.53 yukonbob yup
03:04.26 yukonbob on vic20, I changed char sets to the "double-tall" and re-bitmapped them... that was the extent of my "leet" hacking...
03:04.39 yukonbob oh -- and filling kb buffer to autoload programs
03:05.15 ``Erik heh, I remember putting a joystick routine into the isr vector, don't remember what I ddi with it
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03:05.36 ``Erik and things like incrementing the background color registers
03:07.18 ``Erik heh "the hare club for men"
03:08.08 yukonbob (lightpens read light, don't emit)
03:08.11 ``Erik hehehe, I had a light pen, too... always seemed twitchy
03:08.23 ``Erik and the mouse I had was crap
03:09.37 yukonbob then of course moved to Amiga (more awesome), and then PC's, and luckily, Linux very early on...
03:12.42 brlcad compuserve ftw!
03:22.20 ``Erik heh, I clung to my commodores until '96 when I had a ~6mo bout of windows, then immediately fled to linux
03:24.54 yukonbob A2000, A3000 -- shoulda kept A500 -- cute machine
03:26.04 yukonbob from an era when machines were cool...
03:27.26 louipc are bananas expensive in the yukon?
03:28.34 yukonbob louipc: I was just in Crowsnest Pass (s. of Calgary) and remember picking up Milk in a gas station for $5-something -- and same size up here in grocery store (where you'd expect cheaper) was $6-something...
03:29.00 yukonbob expect cheaper == gas station vs. grocery store...
03:29.57 yukonbob though, around Calgary is a weird economy anyway -- oil is doing very well, and everything is inflated...
03:30.03 louipc yea some of those convenience stores offer cheaper milk
03:30.28 yukonbob Whitehorse can still be an expensive place to be -- I much prefer Toronto... :)
03:31.04 yukonbob though, Whitehorse has better fishing
03:31.40 louipc hah yeah you can't eat lake ontario fish
03:32.57 yukonbob fishing in Whitehorse/Alaska is best thing going for it for me... used to be the girls, but I've got a steady gf now, and a kid, so those days are over
03:33.29 yukonbob s/Whitehorse/Yukon/
03:33.53 louipc whoa yukon for the girls eh? nice
03:34.01 yukonbob yup -- it's worth a trip
03:36.36 louipc Spring Break Yukon!
03:36.49 yukonbob LOL -- look out Florida
03:37.14 yukonbob speaking of Ottawa, /me wonders if he'll get to BSDCan this year...
04:04.40 ``Erik bastage
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04:05.25 brlcad mm. bsdcon
04:05.45 brlcad if solid modeling wasn't in new york this year, I'd be inclined to press for either it or gamedev
04:06.03 ``Erik bsdcon went away long ago
04:06.13 brlcad sry, usenix
04:06.15 ``Erik it's all bsdcan or nybug
04:06.34 ``Erik <-- shakes fist at usenix for dropping bsdcon
04:06.43 brlcad i saw it as absorbed into bsdcon, not dropped :)
04:06.51 ``Erik huh?
04:06.51 brlcad er, usenix
04:06.53 brlcad damnits
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04:07.01 ``Erik bsdcon was part of usenix
04:07.08 ``Erik like, "sponsored by" or something
04:07.15 ``Erik and during it, iirc
04:07.16 Winny brlcad, your CGI:IRC is broken.
04:07.17 brlcad bsdcon "absorbed" into the greater usenix
04:07.28 brlcad Winny: looks like it's working for you
04:07.36 ``Erik kinda like the vatst/vis dealie
04:07.40 Winny brlcad, I closed that windows 10 min ago.
04:08.23 brlcad Winny: I reset apache about 10 min ago or so to reload a config .. that would have hosed cgi:irc connections
04:09.10 Winny hmm, it wasn't connecting, so I closed the window, 10 min ago on my watch.
04:09.24 ``Erik hopefully the next apache hiccup will involve new hw :D
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05:02.23 yukonbob interesting video
05:40.05 brlcad yeah, good stuff
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09:33.15 Axman6 you can do it!
10:50.47 brlcad never!
10:57.15 brlcad poolio: fyi, I'm presenting beset today, I'll see if I can get you a copy of the presentation I whipped up later
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15:12.13 poolio brlcad: wowza! shoulda told me, I had the start of a presentation lying around...Hope it goes well :)
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16:30.52 Lisper hi
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17:28.52 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30169 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/brlcad/brlcad.sln:
17:28.52 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: Added the following projects: asc2pix asc2nmg bot2bldxf bot2raw bot_shell2vtk
17:28.52 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: cy2g dxf2g enf2g euclid_format euclid_unformat euclid2g g2acad g2adrt g2dxf
17:28.52 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: g2euclid1 g2euclid g2nff g2nmg g2obj g2shellrect g2tankill g2var g2vrml g2x3d
17:28.52 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: g42g5 g52g4 nastran2g nmg2bot nmg2rib nmg2sgp pix2asc ply2g poly2bot tankill-g
17:28.54 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: vg2
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17:46.34 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30170 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (dxf2g/dxf2g.vcproj g2dxf/g2dxf.vcproj): Upgraded to MSVC 8.0
17:47.09 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30171 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (66 files in 33 dirs): Initial check-in.
18:02.58 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30172 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/viewpoint2g/ (. viewpoint2g.vcproj): Initial check-in.
18:54.44 louipc holy shite
18:57.23 yukonbob poolio: beset is your contribution, right?
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19:36.40 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30173 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/Makefile.am: Added a few project files to EXTRA_DIST.
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20:16.18 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30174 10/brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h: Included fcntl.h and added a few #define.
20:16.56 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30175 10/brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h: Added declaration for nmg_vlist_to_eu().
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21:05.57 poolio yukonbob: I suppose :]
21:59.35 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30176 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/ (31 files): Mods to get things working on Windows.
22:03.56 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30177 10/brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h: Change uintXX_t #defines to typedefs.
22:09.53 ``Erik "what makes you think we're andorian?" "well, you're too big to be a smurf"
22:10.13 poolio I think you've lost it ``Erik
22:11.03 ``Erik :D
22:11.26 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30178 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/tclcad.c: On windows, include fcntl.h to quell warnings about O_BINARY macro redefinition.
22:12.57 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30179 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/temp.c: Remove unnecessary includes.
23:13.50 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30180 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/dg_obj.c: Added missing retcode in the windows section.

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