| 00:00.09 | Axman6 | ``Erik: i hope that's not related to the movie pirates |
| 00:00.27 | Axman6 | …not that i'd know what that is… |
| 00:02.21 | louipc | does anyone know how to discover vhosts on a domain? |
| 00:03.29 | louipc | aha I think I found something |
| 00:03.29 | ``Erik | um, it came out in '87, axman... |
| 00:03.37 | louipc | Axman6: haaaah |
| 00:04.11 | Axman6 | heh |
| 00:11.33 | IriX64 | vmware is good....sound fx and music work |
| 00:12.32 | Axman6 | yeah VMware fusion is really nice |
| 00:12.51 | IriX64 | using workstation |
| 00:12.54 | IriX64 | 6 |
| 00:13.43 | Axman6 | big improvment on using Qemu on a PPC i can tell you :P |
| 00:14.43 | IriX64 | gotta buy this thing, they'll get sick of giving me eval licences eventually :) |
| 00:20.53 | ``Erik | heh |
| 00:21.01 | ``Erik | qemu x86 on an x86 is pretty decent |
| 00:22.57 | Axman6 | ``Erik: it almost perfectly emulated my 133MHz pentium 1 router thing. speed and ahrdware. i was pretty surprised |
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| 00:30.20 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30209 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libtienet/tienet_master.c: use bu_fgets for win32 portability |
| 00:37.51 | starseeker | Hmm - did the changes made in incrTcl to support Tcl 8.5 in the tree render it unusable with 8.4? |
| 00:53.06 | starseeker | shaders.rt.pix 0 off by many - anyone else seeing this fail in the regression test? |
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| 01:20.32 | ``Erik | yes |
| 01:20.42 | ``Erik | the internals changed between 8.4 and 8.5 |
| 01:20.49 | ``Erik | and incr pokes at internals |
| 01:55.49 | starseeker | OK, configure needs to select internal now if it detects 8.4 - it barfed on my machine |
| 02:03.30 | ``Erik | if the system has the correct incrtcl installed, it can use 8.4... |
| 02:03.45 | ``Erik | the issue is between incrtcl and tcl, not anyhting of ours |
| 02:09.29 | starseeker | Hmm. OK, BRL-CAD on my system has never liked the system incrtcl |
| 02:14.56 | starseeker | It's trying to use the BRL-CAD version, and configure is checking the system version of tcl/tk and saying "oh, OK, 8.4 is fine." Then it doesn't like my system incrtcl and Bad Things happen... |
| 02:26.27 | starseeker | Cool - the simple brep example is fun to play with |
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| 03:14.27 | brlcad | starseeker: 0 off by many isn't a failure |
| 03:15.05 | brlcad | and .. which simple brep example? :) there are three of them |
| 03:15.27 | brlcad | need to get rid of one of them as soon as some more testing gets done |
| 03:26.59 | starseeker | brep_simple |
| 03:27.14 | starseeker | brep_cube is crashing for me atm |
| 03:27.27 | brlcad | really? that's odd |
| 03:27.33 | brlcad | same file, just different values |
| 03:27.38 | starseeker | ERROR: NULL struct db_i pointer, file db_lookup.c, line 237 |
| 03:27.48 | brlcad | ooh |
| 03:27.57 | brlcad | it's expecting an argument |
| 03:28.03 | brlcad | i forgot about that |
| 03:28.07 | brlcad | i fixed it in simple |
| 03:28.19 | brlcad | just not yet in cube |
| 03:28.26 | starseeker | heh - brep_cube --help works :-) |
| 03:28.38 | brlcad | cube is the one that should go away |
| 03:29.14 | brlcad | breplicator is the third -- it basically performs the same steps as brep_simple but in a linear fashion so you can see more explicitly what's going on |
| 03:29.53 | starseeker | I can't rotate the brep_simple in mged, but subtracting "normal" primitives works :-) |
| 03:30.26 | starseeker | Generates a nifty screenshot, but I can see raytracing these suckers is going to be resource intensive |
| 03:31.02 | brlcad | that's very much experimental, what's currently being worked on |
| 03:31.10 | starseeker | :-) |
| 03:31.15 | brlcad | not been optimized at all, still working on implementation |
| 03:32.32 | brlcad | ray-tracing breps is probably about 90% done |
| 03:34.14 | starseeker | Nifty! |
| 03:47.13 | starseeker | Meh - archer doesn't like Linux atm - Error in startup script: invalid command name "bu_brlcad_root" |
| 03:50.07 | louipc | starseeker: did you ever get it to run in linux? |
| 03:50.37 | starseeker | not so far |
| 03:50.39 | starseeker | bbl |
| 03:50.47 | louipc | yeah me neither |
| 03:51.17 | brlcad | run bwish, does bu_brlcad_root work there? |
| 03:53.03 | brlcad | otherwise, you're either not running archer through bwish or Bu_Init isn't getting called |
| 03:53.48 | louipc | bu_brlcad_root to specify what? Usage: bu_brlcad_root subdir |
| 03:54.10 | brlcad | usage is what it should say |
| 03:54.18 | brlcad | it's a function that returns the location of the root |
| 03:54.20 | louipc | yep ^ |
| 03:54.24 | brlcad | or an item in the root |
| 03:54.31 | brlcad | bu_brlcad_root . for example |
| 03:54.41 | louipc | ok |
| 03:54.43 | brlcad | bu_brlcad_data db/moss.g |
| 03:54.55 | louipc | it gave the usage message with a blank argument anyways |
| 03:55.36 | brlcad | which is why invalid command name should only happen if it's not bwish/btclsh |
| 03:55.46 | louipc | there's some problem with tkimg.so and pnglib in archer. I was actually tinkering with it before to try and figure out what was going on |
| 03:56.34 | louipc | ... well for me anyways |
| 03:57.20 | louipc | Error in startup script: couldn't load file "/opt/brlcad/lib/tkimg.so |
| 03:57.35 | brlcad | is it there? |
| 03:57.46 | louipc | yep |
| 03:58.12 | louipc | I think I got it to load before but I was still having png_read_destroy error |
| 03:58.20 | brlcad | run bwish and type "load /opt/brlcad/lib/tkimg.so" |
| 03:58.24 | brlcad | what's it say? |
| 03:58.54 | louipc | undefined symbol: png_read_destroy |
| 03:59.03 | louipc | couldn't load file "/opt/brlcad/lib/tkimg.so |
| 03:59.30 | brlcad | that'd be why |
| 04:00.11 | brlcad | it's got an unresolved symbol to that png function, and the libpng that it's finding probably isn't exporting it |
| 04:00.44 | louipc | oh so I'd have to rebuild my libpng or something |
| 04:01.16 | brlcad | that's my guess |
| 04:01.30 | brlcad | could also be something in tkimg, if that's not a libpng function |
| 04:02.11 | louipc | could be deprecated *shrug* |
| 04:02.42 | brlcad | yeah, looks like it might have been removed from libpng |
| 04:02.49 | brlcad | http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-commits/2007-October/msg07881.html .. |
| 04:03.26 | brlcad | that removes it |
| 04:03.26 | brlcad | (from tkimg) |
| 04:05.49 | brlcad | have to look into it more later, but you can probably work around the problem with --enable-libpng |
| 04:06.01 | brlcad | since our libpng is explicitly set to export it iirc |
| 04:06.21 | louipc | I think I'll try to make an archlinux package for tkimg |
| 04:06.29 | louipc | I didn't even notice it was there |
| 04:06.48 | brlcad | it's a small/simple little extension |
| 04:19.21 | louipc | ah OK I remember what happened |
| 04:20.00 | louipc | LoadArcherLibs.tcl line 65 I put the path of my libpng.so which got rid of that error |
| 04:20.14 | louipc | but there was a new error Error in startup script: couldn't find procedure Png_Init |
| 04:29.45 | starseeker | Ah - it looks like archer is trying to use my system tcl/tk despite BRL-CAD having built its own copy |
| 04:30.02 | starseeker | mutter mutter... |
| 04:30.18 | louipc | starseeker: do you know anything about Png_Init? |
| 04:30.35 | starseeker | ziltch, I'm sorry to say |
| 04:30.40 | louipc | shucks |
| 04:31.15 | louipc | I just grepped the libpng source tarball and it comes out null |
| 04:31.31 | starseeker | It's probably a TCL/TK routine |
| 04:31.41 | starseeker | where does it grep out in the BRL-CAD tree? |
| 04:32.21 | louipc | tkimg.so! |
| 04:32.36 | starseeker | OK, so the tkimg src is the place to look |
| 04:32.54 | louipc | yep I'll go about making a separate package when I get the chance |
| 04:34.08 | starseeker | Where's the magic where mged selects the local tcl/tk packages? |
| 04:34.26 | louipc | mged? i dunno :P |
| 04:34.35 | starseeker | It's doing it but archer isn't |
| 04:35.29 | louipc | whoa mged is binary |
| 04:36.51 | starseeker | Grr |
| 04:37.21 | starseeker | Just trying to run /usr/brlcad/bin/bwish outright results in the /usr/lib/tcl8.4 libraries being used |
| 04:37.37 | louipc | hmm |
| 04:38.46 | starseeker | grr - rtwizard does the same thing! |
| 04:39.06 | starseeker | Wild - it looks like only mged (so far) is doing whatever the "right thing" is |
| 04:39.47 | starseeker | and I still can't get itcl/itk to work from the system side |
| 04:39.58 | louipc | hah I thought mged used bwish |
| 04:40.18 | louipc | I'm not even going to bother with that :D |
| 04:40.34 | starseeker | grepping in src/mged doesn't have a single match with wish |
| 04:40.41 | louipc | my knowledge is too limited |
| 04:40.55 | starseeker | confound it |
| 04:41.34 | louipc | could be a configure thing though |
| 04:41.53 | starseeker | Maybe... |
| 04:42.01 | starseeker | I'll build clean |
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| 05:25.18 | brlcad | louipc: the Png_Init (and pretty much any [lib]_Init) function is a tcl hook function that gets automatically called during a load or package require |
| 05:26.10 | brlcad | it's not a png function, tkimg provides one because it has a png image loading interface, so there's a Png_Init for that submodule to tkimg |
| 05:27.29 | brlcad | mged does not use bwish, it has an embedded interpreter just like bwish does |
| 05:28.51 | louipc | ah mged's command interface seemed identical to bwish |
| 05:29.08 | brlcad | it's very similar |
| 05:29.20 | brlcad | though not strictly identical |
| 05:29.34 | louipc | is there a reason for having both? |
| 05:29.47 | brlcad | they serve entirely different purposes |
| 05:30.13 | louipc | oh |
| 05:31.05 | brlcad | bwish is basically "wish" with brl-cad resources preloaded so you can write brl-cad tclscripts more easily and have access to many of the same commands that are in mged (like bu_brlcad_data) |
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| 05:32.07 | brlcad | as yukonbob_ noted, we could probably get rid of bwish/btclsh if someone(tm) makes the appropriate pkg files so one can do the appropriate package requires |
| 05:34.06 | louipc | like a tcl script? |
| 05:34.27 | brlcad | there are already the needed [lib]_Init() routines, just need the pkgIndex.tcl files to get written/generated |
| 05:35.13 | louipc | right I was looking at archer scripts I think I know what you mean |
| 05:35.35 | brlcad | ghost |
| 05:35.43 | yukonbob_ | boo |
| 05:35.55 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.59 | louipc | i have an alias to ghost/id |
| 05:36.05 | louipc | all in one go |
| 05:36.26 | louipc | I learned this when I was having those horrible connection issues |
| 05:37.52 | brlcad | sure you didn't typo? |
| 05:37.54 | brlcad | works for me |
| 05:38.16 | yukonbob | ya! |
| 05:39.06 | yukonbob | no -- nickserv give me nothing -- :P -- I talk to nickserv to authenticate my username all the time -- dunno what's going on... |
| 05:39.12 | yukonbob | *gives me nothing |
| 05:40.50 | brlcad | no console messages? |
| 05:40.54 | brlcad | maybe being filtered |
| 05:41.00 | brlcad | but nickserv is supposed to be unprotected |
| 05:41.37 | brlcad | either way, it's just /msg nickserv ghost username password |
| 05:41.57 | brlcad | that will kick username off the network so you can /nick |
| 05:43.29 | yukonbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.35 | yukonbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.38 | brlcad | latter |
| 05:44.06 | brlcad | you can ghost *from* any callsign |
| 05:44.14 | brlcad | I could ghost you if I knew your password |
| 05:44.40 | yukonbob | it's "brlcadr0x" |
| 05:44.46 | yukonbob | the "0" is for security. |
| 05:45.10 | brlcad | 00:44 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Password Incorrect |
| 05:45.11 | brlcad | ;) |
| 05:56.24 | brlcad | you just got here! :) |
| 05:57.08 | yukonbob | :) -- I'll think about getting those b[wish/tclsh] addressed and maybe start tmo... think while I'm sleeping :) |
| 05:58.36 | yukonbob | q: is the brep (ie: brep_simple) support only in HEAD? |
| 05:58.46 | brlcad | afaik, all that's needed is making a tclcad_Init() and a pkgIndex.tcl script for tclcad, bu, bn, rt, dm, fb, and pkg |
| 05:59.04 | brlcad | yes, only in head |
| 05:59.34 | brlcad | it was in the last release, but won't compile by default without editing configure.ac |
| 05:59.58 | yukonbob | ah -- /me gets "...support is not available..." |
| 06:00.15 | brlcad | cya |
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| 06:02.27 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30211 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/cy-g.c: add some comments about what some of the header fields mean |
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| 06:21.11 | louipc | how does one read while asleep!? |
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| 08:21.18 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30214 10/brlcad/trunk/ (108 files in 26 dirs): |
| 08:21.18 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: large conversion/specification of the fopen callers as to whether the file is |
| 08:21.18 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: binary or text in order to help the Windows port along. Unless specifically |
| 08:21.18 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: certain that there is no binary fields or EOL assumptions in the file reading, |
| 08:21.19 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: the files are marked as binary in order to preserve format with other platforms. |
| 08:21.21 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: also, be more consistent on using fp for fopen'd file pointers instead of fd |
| 08:21.23 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: (which would be an open'd file descriptor). |
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| 12:21.17 | starseeker | OK, that's progress. I must have not cleaned the tree after that first build attempt, and specifying to build internal tcl/tk didn't trigger a re-build of components built using the system tcl/tk |
| 12:21.40 | starseeker | After a clean rebuild, I'm now reproducing the error about png_read_destroy |
| 12:26.12 | starseeker | ``Erik - is there some autoconf magic that can/should be auto-rebuilding in a case like that? Just curious. |
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| 13:01.34 | ``Erik | a/det |
| 13:13.49 | starseeker | OK, now we're getting interesting. After selecting the internal libpng, I get a window and the message "Failed to load plugins can't read "Archer::pluginMajorTypeWIzard": no such variable |
| 13:14.56 | starseeker | After I tell it OK, the flash screen appears very briefly and then I get bad path: ".file.rt" does not exist. "rt" not valid |
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| 15:51.37 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30217 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/ (badmagic.c bu_tcl.c list.c magic.c): quell warnings, more consistency conversion for using unsigned longs for all magic numbers |
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| 20:11.35 | ``Erik | crap |
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| 21:29.42 | ``Erik | *yarghn* |
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| 23:01.25 | ``Erik | gettin' to be release time, yo |
| 23:04.10 | louipc | nice |