IRC log for #brlcad on 20080217

01:17.26 starseeker Interesting - this povray image is done with CSG operations: http://hof.povray.org/Villarceau_Circles-CSG.html
01:35.32 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30324 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/bu.h src/libbu/Makefile.am src/libbu/endian.c): (log message trimmed)
01:35.32 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: initial implementation of run-time byte order detection via bu_byteorder() that
01:35.32 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: returns the current endian type. type endian type is one of BU_BIG_ENDIAN
01:35.32 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: BU_LITTLE_ENDIAN and BU_PDP_ENDIAN for now, and uses a simple union test for
01:35.32 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: finding the ordering. profiling showed that it was actually faster to compute
01:35.35 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: than to lookup from a static iff the first test is the right one (which makes
01:35.37 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: sense, avoids a load/read). we need *run-time* detection in order for Universal
01:38.23 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30325 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/g-var.c: use the new bu_byteorder() instead of WORDS_BIGENDIAN
01:40.44 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30326 10/brlcad/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add new endian.c file to the windows build
01:42.32 brlcad and only using torii
01:42.50 starseeker :-)
01:43.06 brlcad that would be a cool procedural generator
01:43.52 starseeker bbl, dinner
01:55.23 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30327 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/endian.c: oop, save before commit. comment that stashing a static was tested.
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04:23.47 starseeker Humph - g_qa's output doesn't pipe to a text file easily...
04:25.10 louipc hmm yeah I can't see how it uses only tori
05:52.27 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30328 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
05:52.27 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: eww, vfont handling is replicated in lgt and fbed. clean things up a bit by at
05:52.27 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: least making them the same. probably need to 'restore' vfont back into the src
05:52.27 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: hierarchy now that it's clear that there are actually sources that belong to it.
05:53.04 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30329 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/ply-g.c: use bu_byteorder() instead of manually guessing the endian
05:53.14 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30330 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/stl-g.c: header cleanup
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13:01.24 magesing Hi everone, I'm trying to follow the tutorials in MGED volume II, I'm on the goblet tutorial now. When I try to use the primitive editor to create ball2.s, I get the errors I have pasted at http://rafb.net/p/DtzFW346.txt . Is there something wrong with my brl-cad instalation? I am using mged 7.10.4 under Mac OS X version 10.5.1 Thanks.
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17:13.41 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30331 10/brlcad/trunk/src/lgt/getfont.c: don't need assert.h
17:15.15 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30332 10/brlcad/trunk/src/fbed/fbed.c: ws and style consistency
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18:55.09 yukonbob :P -- no problem here... /me reviews error msgs closer
18:55.32 yukonbob oh -- magesing is gone, anyway :)
19:09.18 brlcad yeah, I couldn't reproduce it
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19:21.09 yukonbob hey brlcad :)
19:22.39 yukonbob post a (?weekly) image with a concept of some level of difficulty, and get people to either describe how to do it, or submit code as proofs of concept.
20:02.18 brlcad yukonbob: yeah, that could be fun .. someone would have to be dedicated to "running" it .. ;)
20:05.01 yukonbob we'd need access to interesting pics and their methods...
20:06.35 yukonbob MinuteElectron: how tricky to setup a section like the Poll, with an img, description, and an email account for submissions?
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20:34.09 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30333 10/brlcad/trunk/ (12 files in 6 dirs): move vfont back into the source tree so that code duplicated in fbed and lgt can be refactored into a library interface. this just moves the files into place and keeps things working.
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21:09.23 MinuteElectron yukonbob: erm, could you explain further
21:38.56 yukonbob MinuteElectron: what I'm thinking of is a periodic feature (like the poll). It would be an image, and a description/question. People would look at the image, follow the instructions/question (ie: how would you render this picture with the fewest primitives?), and then mail their submissions in for review.
21:39.50 yukonbob I say like the poll, but in fact, that poll has only had one question, I believe... what I'm talking about would be cycled monthly or weekly or so.
21:53.19 MinuteElectron yes
21:53.22 MinuteElectron that would be possible
21:53.52 MinuteElectron you'd have to ask brlcad about an e-mail account, but i'll code something up for you if we're definitely going to have it
21:54.26 MinuteElectron or,
21:54.45 MinuteElectron if you want to just change it manually i can set up a block and you just change that yourself once a month
21:55.24 MinuteElectron i could have the code bit set up in a few minutes
21:55.55 MinuteElectron i mean not the code nbit
21:55.57 MinuteElectron the block
21:56.35 MinuteElectron yukonbob: would you be happy to run that?
21:58.01 MinuteElectron Also, this reminds me, I have to find a permanent fix for the IE problem.
21:58.13 MinuteElectron And I need to fix up this LDAP thing asap.
22:00.50 MinuteElectron They are the last two major things IIRC.
22:01.46 brlcad yeah, I was working on ldap yesterday, but still didn't figure out why drupal isn't responding to it yet
22:02.45 brlcad MinuteElectron: did you happen to get the header working in IE6, last I looked that was the only 'major' IE6 problem remaining (or is that what you were referring to?)
22:02.51 yukonbob MinuteElectron: let me explore this a bit more, and I'll get back to you -- good to hear that you have ideas for how to do it -- so consider this a "bug in your ear" and I'll touch bases w/ you again
22:06.51 MinuteElectron sure thing
22:06.58 MinuteElectron brlcad: The header, I thought that was fixed.
22:07.06 MinuteElectron I was refering to the block corners.
22:07.42 brlcad yeah, you did fix the corners :)
22:07.48 MinuteElectron They are all out of align, I "fixed" them - but when you change the blocks it screws up again.
22:07.49 brlcad they are all right now iirc
22:08.04 MinuteElectron So they are alright when logged out, but fail when lgoged in.
22:08.17 brlcad but now the menu 'contents' actually don't render (and just the menu iirc)
22:08.23 brlcad it's just a green box
22:08.26 MinuteElectron oh
22:08.28 MinuteElectron sigh
22:08.38 brlcad the links are still there, you can click on them and it goes to the section
22:09.06 MinuteElectron On the wiki?
22:09.07 brlcad and I think for a millisecond they actually render black before green overwrites
22:09.28 brlcad on all the pages, the menu at the top of the header
22:09.29 MinuteElectron I can't find the bit you're refering too.
22:09.47 MinuteElectron It works fine in my internet explorer 6, are you at an IE 6 computer?
22:09.50 brlcad where it has a half-box attached to the top of the display, handing down on the right
22:09.55 brlcad yeah, IE6
22:10.16 brlcad i'm not on an IE6 box right now or I'd get a screenshot
22:10.37 MinuteElectron hmm, it works fine on my computer
22:11.05 MinuteElectron next time you are at an ie 6 computer it would be great for you to check it \ screenshot it
22:11.09 MinuteElectron though
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22:15.01 MinuteElectron hmm
22:16.07 MinuteElectron oh dear
22:18.15 MinuteElectron Tomorrow afternoon though - I'll get this sorted.
22:20.15 brlcad having someone try the menu right now
22:20.25 MinuteElectron thanks
22:22.14 MinuteElectron indeed
22:22.33 MinuteElectron Sorry I keep putting it of.
22:22.35 brlcad screenshotting, they get it to
22:23.15 brlcad for me, it's just in a bin with XX other hot-priorities.. I need to stop context switching so much and focus on completing a task before moving to the next fire :)
22:23.39 MinuteElectron We all suffer from that really.
22:24.11 brlcad here we go, thx to blast007
22:24.12 brlcad http://fu.sh.nu:82/brlcad.png
22:24.16 brlcad that's what I was seeing to
22:24.20 brlcad otherwise looks *perfect*
22:24.36 MinuteElectron hmm
22:24.38 MinuteElectron how odd
22:24.56 MinuteElectron It's not a text size problem, so must be something else.
22:26.02 MinuteElectron Curious, do you know what font is being used?
22:26.12 MinuteElectron oh, right
22:26.16 MinuteElectron its our defualt
22:26.17 MinuteElectron hmm
22:28.05 brlcad seems like it's either a layering issue or it's picking up the background color as the font color
22:29.10 MinuteElectron possibly
22:31.29 MinuteElectron But it's weird how it doesn't happen on my computer. I'll load up my laptop and see what happens there.
22:34.49 brlcad they can copy-paste the text, but it doesn't hilight when they select it
22:35.27 brlcad not sure that's really helpful, still could be css or a missing close tag for that matter, but then it'd probably not validate
22:38.21 alex_joni MinuteElectron: mind if I report something?
22:38.53 MinuteElectron brlcad: sure
22:39.52 MinuteElectron brlcad: I don't get a problem on either my laptop or my desktop. If blast007 isn't too busy can you get him to clear his cache for that page (Ctrl+F5) and\or take a note of the exact version.
22:39.56 MinuteElectron alex_joni: sure
22:39.58 MinuteElectron sorry
22:40.00 MinuteElectron w/a
22:40.08 alex_joni np..
22:40.18 brlcad MinuteElectron: that was the first time he'd ever visited the site
22:40.29 MinuteElectron heh
22:40.29 MinuteElectron ok
22:40.48 MinuteElectron In that case can you ask him to get the exact version of IE?
22:40.51 alex_joni MinuteElectron: WinXP+Opera 9.24, I see a strange thing on the Community page
22:41.00 MinuteElectron loading
22:41.13 alex_joni I see the poll on the right, but it seems like the bottom part is cut-off, no submit button for the poll
22:41.23 alex_joni (might be on purpose though?)
22:41.36 MinuteElectron nope :P
22:41.41 MinuteElectron Will add that to my list.
22:41.51 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30334 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (lgt/char.c lgt/ir.c lgt/lgt.h vfont/getfont.c): modify get_Font() to be get_font() and to take a logging callback (so we can pass it fb_log for fbed)
22:41.59 MinuteElectron I think I know why though, so it won't be too hard to fix.
22:42.21 alex_joni MinuteElectron: same for all pages
22:42.30 alex_joni the bottom div seems to jump pretty high up
22:43.03 MinuteElectron Yeah, for some reason the min-height and bottom alignment doesn't work in Opera.
22:43.05 alex_joni (if there's enough content it's not visible.. but on empty pages like Community it's quite visible)
22:43.29 MinuteElectron yeah
22:47.19 brlcad MinuteElectron: his version is 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254
22:47.24 MinuteElectron thanks
22:48.03 MinuteElectron That's the same as mine, so not a version specific bug.
22:48.33 MinuteElectron Ok, everything logged and recorded. I'll deal with them tomorrow afternoon, but now have to go to bed. Goodnight.
22:48.57 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30335 10/brlcad/trunk/src/fbed/ (15 files): convert fbed over to the new libvfont_nil
22:48.57 brlcad cya
22:49.04 alex_joni cia :)
22:56.29 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30336 10/brlcad/trunk/src/vfont/getfont.c: cleanup, use bu_brlcad_data to find the installed font resource files

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