| 00:30.57 | starseeker | Hmm - this looks like fun to model - too bad the dimensions are too small to read http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/digital_detail.jsp?&pg=1&rn=2&tn=796236&st=b&rp=summary&nh=2&si=0 |
| 00:35.29 | brlcad | cookie'd link, can't read it |
| 00:40.37 | starseeker | pfft |
| 00:40.39 | starseeker | hang on |
| 00:41.28 | starseeker | http://my.bzflag.bz/~starseeker/783889_001_a.jpg |
| 00:44.40 | brlcad | that would make an *awesome* csg model |
| 00:45.32 | brlcad | you don't need to read dimensions, you could print that out, pull out a compass/protractor/ruler and go to town |
| 00:47.33 | starseeker | true :-) |
| 00:47.42 | starseeker | given an overall length anyway |
| 00:50.06 | brlcad | looks like it's documented http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060524049 |
| 00:50.18 | brlcad | (with dimensions and historic details) |
| 00:55.56 | brlcad | http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/bm-monitor-h50954.jpg |
| 00:58.30 | brlcad | https://dspace.sunsite.utk.edu/bitstream/1785/809/1/MS376p47-MonitorPlan-print.jpg |
| 01:21.11 | starseeker | Awesome |
| 01:21.41 | starseeker | The national archives may have the originals - I'll have to get in there and try to get some higher res photos |
| 01:41.47 | brlcad | yeah |
| 02:16.23 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30490 10/brlcad/trunk/ (doc/deprecation.txt include/wdb.h): deprecate mk_fastgen_comb() .. should just use mk_comb() or mk_lcomb() |
| 02:17.13 | brlcad | "In support of improved security, all SourceForge.net user passwords have been expired and must be changed upon next login. CVS, Subversion and Shell users will need to login to the site to change their password before they will be able to access these services." |
| 02:37.55 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30491 10/brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h: cleanup comments on LOS |
| 02:41.19 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30492 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS src/conv/fast4-g.c): |
| 02:41.20 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: make the regions being created by fastf-g default to setting the material code |
| 02:41.24 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: to 1 and LOS to 100 so that it actually matches the defaults that the modeler |
| 02:41.26 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: and librt use. this quick tweak implements a request from dwayne kregel (S2 SCR |
| 02:41.28 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 918) .. which I just heard about it a few min ago. |
| 02:50.10 | starseeker | Hey brlcad - the terra.dsp and terra.g files in the demo db don't seem to be happy - DSP buffer wrong size: 131592 s/b 131072 |
| 02:52.14 | brlcad | see what svn props are set on terra.dsp |
| 02:52.29 | brlcad | probably thinks it's a windows file |
| 02:53.05 | brlcad | probably need to unset svn:eol-style, or set it to something better |
| 02:54.21 | starseeker | svn:eol-style is set to CRLF |
| 02:56.50 | brlcad | yeah, that's wrong |
| 02:57.02 | brlcad | dsp files are usually msvc studio files |
| 02:57.15 | brlcad | so it was set on import |
| 02:57.40 | brlcad | should be able to just unset the prop and check it out from svn again |
| 03:23.59 | starseeker | Is this the bit where svn is difficult about unsetting the prop? |
| 03:24.06 | starseeker | s/difficult/different |
| 03:27.00 | starseeker | Bingo - that was it |
| 03:27.16 | starseeker | svn propdel svn:eol-style terra.dsp |
| 03:27.28 | starseeker | should this be fixed in the main tree? |
| 03:28.31 | brlcad | yep |
| 03:28.54 | starseeker | will a commit do it or does it need some magic on the sf side? |
| 03:29.08 | brlcad | that'll do it |
| 03:29.53 | starseeker | k |
| 03:29.58 | starseeker | hmm - weird |
| 03:30.33 | starseeker | when I display ground.r and try to run rt I get raytrace failed, but the mged dialog succeeded? |
| 03:31.20 | brlcad | what mged dialog? |
| 03:31.35 | starseeker | File -> Raytrace |
| 03:32.00 | brlcad | oh, you mean it works through the panel, but not with just "rt"? |
| 03:32.07 | starseeker | yes |
| 03:32.12 | brlcad | what's the error? |
| 03:32.17 | starseeker | Raytrace failed. |
| 03:32.26 | brlcad | heh, what led up to that |
| 03:32.36 | starseeker | trying to find an error in the message... |
| 03:33.13 | starseeker | bizarre - I don't seen an error message |
| 03:33.14 | brlcad | should be right before the failed message |
| 03:33.21 | brlcad | or it's crashing |
| 03:33.30 | brlcad | try it on the command line |
| 03:33.48 | brlcad | run "saveview" to save an rt script |
| 03:33.52 | brlcad | then run that script |
| 03:34.04 | brlcad | look at the log file and/or tweak the script to see what's going on |
| 03:34.14 | brlcad | (it's just a simple text shell script) |
| 03:34.19 | starseeker | Hmm - with the command line rt it says Segmentation fault |
| 03:34.40 | brlcad | that's not good |
| 03:34.44 | brlcad | this using head? |
| 03:35.01 | starseeker | Not the very latest - let me rebuild |
| 03:37.28 | starseeker | Hmm - the script did generate a pix file, apparently |
| 03:38.21 | starseeker | Can I do the commit on just terra.dsp or do I need to do the db dir to get the .svn props |
| 03:39.58 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30493 10/brlcad/trunk/db/terra.dsp: Update props on terra.dsp to avoid file size issues when running demo. |
| 03:40.06 | starseeker | wow that was fast |
| 03:40.19 | brlcad | should be instantaneous :) |
| 03:40.27 | brlcad | we fixed most of the CIA bugs |
| 03:40.32 | starseeker | Cool :-) |
| 03:40.43 | starseeker | OK, time to rebuild... |
| 03:41.17 | brlcad | common pitfall .. once you use the script, there will be a pix file with mode 400 so you have to manually rm -f the file to render again |
| 03:41.33 | brlcad | make sure it's non-zero too .. and the right size |
| 03:41.37 | brlcad | might have just stubbed a file |
| 03:41.41 | brlcad | or partial result |
| 03:41.48 | starseeker | OK - let me rebuild first |
| 03:45.08 | starseeker | brlcad: a thought (which was what prompted the dsp experiment) - could a dsp be created that had ocean wave contours and then rendered with water transparency? |
| 03:45.37 | starseeker | (say, for a ship at sea effect?) |
| 03:46.49 | starseeker | For bonus points, it could have a repeatable pattern and be mirrored arbitrarily to create larger ocean areas |
| 04:04.16 | brlcad | sure could |
| 04:04.33 | brlcad | there is a smoothed normals option on the dsp that should do nicely |
| 04:04.54 | brlcad | might look more like glass than water, but certainly possible to get old-school water probably |
| 04:06.17 | starseeker | maybe using extinction on the glass shader and a blue tint, then modeling actual ocean depth in the dsp? |
| 04:08.28 | starseeker | If we wanted to get REALLY fancy we could add a routine adding/subtracting peaks and valleys in the dsp to create wave interference |
| 04:17.10 | brlcad | and/or code up a new water shader ;) |
| 04:19.01 | starseeker | New feature - modeling tanks under water! |
| 04:19.37 | starseeker | Although I suppose it might be useful in "plowing through river" scenarios... |
| 04:20.19 | brlcad | there's all sorts of fluids that it could represent that would be useful to be able to visualize |
| 04:21.11 | brlcad | fuel and blood come to mind .. |
| 04:21.26 | starseeker | coolant |
| 04:21.36 | brlcad | oil, other lubricants |
| 04:21.54 | starseeker | Would a proper water shader have to produce gradient effects? |
| 04:24.09 | brlcad | I know we can represent atmospheric effects visually, though I really forget the mechanism at the moment (it's probably a procedural shader iirc) |
| 04:24.30 | brlcad | something similar or maybe even that same shader might give the right effect, dunno |
| 04:24.51 | brlcad | that's all experimental stuff, you'd likely be digging in code a bit |
| 04:31.00 | starseeker | Phew - latest head cvs does NOT crash with the rt command |
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| 04:45.27 | louipc | howdy |
| 04:46.09 | starseeker | howdy :-) |
| 04:46.33 | louipc | svn HEAD is 7.11.5 is that right? |
| 04:47.09 | starseeker | Um - not sure |
| 04:52.05 | louipc | sweet |
| 04:53.16 | louipc | I'm going to change the included PKGBUILD so it's mostly static. I can't figure how to really make it otherwise |
| 05:03.14 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03louipc * r30494 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/archlinux/ (PKGBUILD.in brlcad.install.in brlcad.sh.in): |
| 05:03.14 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: I'm making Arch Linux packaging scripts mostly static. |
| 05:03.14 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: It seems the most practical thing to do. |
| 05:03.25 | brlcad | 7.11.5 today, probably 7.12.0 tomorrow |
| 05:04.58 | louipc | oh wow cool |
| 05:05.17 | louipc | well the PKGBUILD will read include/conf/ for version |
| 05:06.12 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03louipc * r30495 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/archlinux/ (6 files): Rename Arch Linux scripts, also fix md5sum in PKGBUILD |
| 05:07.13 | brlcad | saw that, nifty |
| 05:08.38 | louipc | I was wondering could there be a README on how to build packages for various distros to supplement INSTALL? |
| 05:09.02 | brlcad | louipc: if there are edits that should get made when we release, should document it in HACKING in the release steps |
| 05:09.14 | brlcad | there are platform-specific readme's already |
| 05:09.20 | louipc | eg. since you've got debian, redhat, archlinux, etc |
| 05:09.30 | brlcad | go for it :) |
| 05:09.55 | brlcad | they're in doc/README.* |
| 05:10.16 | louipc | ah alright |
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| 07:08.36 | brlcad | some fun pics: |
| 07:08.39 | brlcad | http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/uploads/large/OCPA-2005-03-10-092226.jpg |
| 07:08.49 | brlcad | http://www.arcent.army.mil/cflcc_today/2005/february/images/feb01_03/tank2.jpg |
| 07:09.03 | brlcad | that's a freaking awesome shot |
| 07:09.46 | brlcad | and yet another favorite.. http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/070718-f-5622m-904.jpg :-) |
| 07:09.51 | brlcad | hehe |
| 07:12.20 | louipc | sweet |
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| 08:03.14 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03louipc * r30496 10/brlcad/trunk/ (configure.ac misc/archlinux/Makefile.am): Makefile and configure changes for Arch Linux |
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| 15:22.52 | yukonbob | hello, nerds |
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| 15:31.53 | ``Erik | heh |
| 16:31.54 | clock_ | Do you know how it sounds when you play church bells with a bow? |
| 16:39.53 | ``Erik | O.o |
| 16:47.01 | clock_ | http://ronja.twibright.com/tubulars_and_bow.mp3 |
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| 20:32.14 | ``Erik | brlcad, "they" say the tcl issue is back, and want your super voodoo magic to "fix" it |
| 21:45.38 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30499 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/geometree/GeometryBrowser.tcl: Added code to redraw drawn objects. |
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| 21:50.05 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30500 10/brlcad/trunk/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Update version to 7.12.0. Preparing for release. |
| 21:51.10 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/qLIWo075.html <---- checked out as of last night , good job :) |
| 21:55.20 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/latest.png <---- what that paste refers too :) |
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