IRC log for #brlcad on 20080318

00:26.28 yukonbob re: SoC -- does that mean that certain summer projects of BRL-CAD are accepted, or BRL-CAD is welcomed into SoC in principle, and specfic projects are yet to be sumbitted.
00:26.31 yukonbob ?
00:27.06 brlcad the latter
00:27.39 brlcad we talk to students throughout the week
00:27.45 brlcad they formulate proposals
00:27.50 brlcad we rank them
00:28.12 brlcad we get allocated an unknown number of slots (probably 2 or 3)
00:28.28 brlcad those top N ranked then work on their projects
00:29.29 yukonbob nods
00:30.45 yukonbob Are there projects listed on a SoC page on the new site that might be picked-from, or give potentials an idea of what to work on?
00:30.59 brlcad yep
00:31.15 brlcad http://my.brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas
00:31.22 brlcad still have more to add
00:31.28 brlcad and some cleanup
00:31.31 yukonbob looks
00:32.00 brlcad if you have other ideas, it's a wiki ;)
00:32.18 brlcad (and presuming youd be interested in mentoring that idea)
00:32.27 alex_joni brlcad: an U3D converter
00:33.13 yukonbob looks, and has ideas, and will hopefully mentor as well ;)
00:33.58 brlcad also links to http://brlcad.org/~sean/ideas.html
00:34.20 brlcad though that has plenty of ideas way out of scope for gsoc
00:35.30 brlcad alex_joni: good idea
00:35.45 alex_joni brlcad: makes nifty pdf's :)
00:36.23 alex_joni and should be fairly simple using sample code from SF as a guidance
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05:55.29 brlcad u3d added
06:09.11 poolio congrats on gsoc :)
06:09.25 brlcad yeah, should be fun
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11:38.46 alex_joni brlcad: whee, thanks :)
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11:50.30 starseeker brlcad: Heh - with BRL-CAD and BZFlag in the SoC mix it's going to be a wild one :-)
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14:03.25 clock_ brlcad: is there something like a truncated sphere?
14:03.48 clock_ For example if I want to do a weak lens, I need to use a huge sphere. It makes the model appear big and complicated
14:03.56 clock_ also maybe makes raytracinf slower
14:55.32 yukonbob waves in
14:56.01 yukonbob passes raspberry tea or coffee or yerba matte or $whatever to brlcad
15:18.12 brlcad clock_: hmmm
15:18.44 brlcad even truncated, it's going to be huge regardless to get the curvature
15:20.32 clock_ I don't agree with that
15:25.00 brlcad do you mean truncated from multiple directions?
15:25.28 brlcad like top-bottom-left-right-back but not front
15:25.45 brlcad that's the only way I can see it not staying big
15:28.08 clock_ truncated like hour glass
15:34.22 brlcad hour classes are truncated on top and bottom and tapered in the middle
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15:41.17 clock_ oh sorry bad term
15:41.37 clock_ What's the name of the warped glass that is on a watch?
15:41.48 clock_ Clock glass?
15:43.07 brlcad heads to lunch, bbiab
15:43.12 brlcad dunno that one
15:43.18 brlcad not a watch-maker ;)
15:43.24 archivist clock_, also known as crystal
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15:43.38 archivist I do work with clocks
15:43.56 brlcad :)
15:43.56 clock_ the spherical glass on a watch is called crystal?
15:44.36 archivist watch glass, and some are plastic, some real class, some saphire
15:45.06 brlcad yeah, my watch is actually made from crystal .. everlasting unscratchable goodness
15:45.09 archivist real glass also called mineral
15:45.51 archivist brlcad, probably a grown saphire crystal
15:55.39 yukonbob clock_: couldn't you just use a big sphere, take union, and restrict your area of interest (/me is looking up in ref for command he's thinking of)
15:55.56 clock_ I do it
16:00.26 yukonbob will have to look later, but there's a command to block an area as the _only_ area for the ray to take into account -- can't find reference/remember name atm...
16:07.44 yukonbob how does one subscribe to the mailing list?
16:07.54 yukonbob ~mailinglist
16:07.54 ibot [~mailinglist] Asterisk mailing lists can be found at http://lists.digium.com , http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives
16:09.32 archivist https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/brlcad-devel
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16:11.32 yukonbob sees also: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=105292
16:59.14 iraytrace We made it to GSOC?!?!?!?!
17:03.48 poolio jah! :)
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19:21.07 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: 03tossup * r30536 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/geometry/BrlcadDb.java:
19:21.07 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: 'Completed scan' message now goes to System.err rather than System.out.
19:21.07 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: Added <String> as generic type for TreeSet to remove lint warnings.
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19:59.21 brlcad hello Ford_Prefect
19:59.35 brlcad and hippieindamakin8
20:00.17 alex_joni heh, wonder where I left my towel
20:07.40 brlcad never leaves home without his towel
20:09.08 Ford_Prefect :D
20:09.11 Ford_Prefect Hey brlcad
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20:10.39 brlcad how goes it?
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20:31.32 yukonbob peeks in
20:33.43 brlcad peeks out
20:40.43 yukonbob heh
20:40.55 yukonbob dare I ask how you're doing?
20:41.11 brlcad pretty good actually
20:41.20 brlcad yesterday was busy
20:41.23 yukonbob is glad to hear
20:43.26 PrezKennedy * brlcad never leaves home without his towel -- the Vogans are coming!
20:48.03 yukonbob likes the requirements for STEP parser "ability to tolerate bloated ISO standards"
20:51.40 yukonbob notes: Caption for gallery picture "Mike Muss" is incorrectly spelled. (should be "Mike Muuss") http://my.brlcad.org/gallery/main.php
20:53.39 MinuteElectron fixed
20:55.07 MinuteElectron brlcad: Do you have any intention of ever sanctioning a design enhancement, or is the current one as it will remain for the forseeable future?
20:57.07 brlcad what do you mean?
20:57.23 MinuteElectron Is the design as it will stay now?
20:57.33 MinuteElectron i.e. should I start porting it to gallery2 etc.
20:57.38 brlcad you mean the appearance of the site
20:57.42 MinuteElectron eys
20:57.45 brlcad aha
20:57.46 MinuteElectron *yes
20:57.49 MinuteElectron :P
20:58.18 brlcad hm, well I do forsee sanctioning a design enhancement
20:58.38 brlcad eventually at least -- it's nice that it's at least up and running now and is a major improvement
20:58.43 MinuteElectron yeah
20:58.46 brlcad been having fun populating it with data
20:58.51 MinuteElectron :D
20:59.20 brlcad so my own priority was to continue populating it throughout and then get back to ldap and then back onto a new style
20:59.27 MinuteElectron ahh, ok
21:00.06 MinuteElectron so I'll work on porting to gallery2 for now, then when the time comes to modify the style it will be even more uniform.
21:00.14 brlcad there's no reason for that order other than -- it's not "bad" now so move on to content -- at least that was the thinking
21:00.22 brlcad yeah, cool
21:00.43 brlcad I also integrated the style with cgiirc, if you didn't notice
21:00.48 brlcad http://irc.brlcad.org
21:01.09 brlcad you might have a better way to do that, but cgiirc has very limited skinning options
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21:01.13 MinuteElectron cool
21:01.17 brlcad you have to edit the files directly
21:01.23 MinuteElectron looks neat, ahh
21:01.31 brlcad so I just linked the style.css and added the header to the internal template
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21:02.09 MinuteElectron yeah, probably not much of a better way to do it - but i'll have a poke around and think about if there is a way to integrate it better.
21:02.09 brlcad you might have a better way to do it, but I went the quick n dirty route
21:02.13 MinuteElectron yeah
21:02.28 brlcad alas, a route that'll get blown away (for the header) the next time cgi:irc is update
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21:03.19 brlcad I also had to manually rewire the header since all the header links were relative
21:03.34 brlcad and irc has a different path
21:03.41 brlcad probably not a better way around that
21:03.49 brlcad I think I'm just bitching
21:04.17 brlcad because it sucks maintenance wise, given there probably aren't better maintenance options
21:05.29 MinuteElectron ok
21:06.04 brlcad MinuteElectron: I'm also not sure I set up recaptcha properly ..
21:06.12 brlcad and the Notify module
21:06.54 brlcad at least I'm getting several spam contact e-mails a day, and when I test manually it doesn't present me with the recaptcha (on the contact form .. works for the wiki)
21:07.12 MinuteElectron I'll add it to my to do list and look into it when I get a chance, unless this is urgent?
21:07.26 brlcad nah, not urgent
21:07.35 brlcad I'll just forward you the spam ;)
21:07.46 MinuteElectron :D
21:08.56 brlcad or maybe I will buy those cellphone stocks on the forex markets while enlarging my manhood for her delight
21:09.01 MinuteElectron heh
21:09.17 MinuteElectron Also, Drupal 6 got released the other week; not sure if we want to risk an upgrade just yet. I could set up a test drupal and use a copy of the database to do a test upgrade to see if it works ok - then roll it out to the main site?
21:09.36 brlcad I saw that too
21:09.41 brlcad most of the modules aren't updated
21:09.47 brlcad ldap isn't available for example
21:10.15 brlcad we're using about a half dozen modules now -- when they're updated, probably a good time to upgrade
21:10.51 MinuteElectron ahh ok
21:15.10 MinuteElectron later
21:15.52 brlcad cya!
21:19.04 hippieindamakin8 hey brlcad
21:37.24 hippieindamakin8 nebody there ?
21:37.32 hippieindamakin8 brlcad are u there?
21:42.26 brlcad yep
21:44.14 brlcad hippieindamakin8: did you have a question?
21:44.24 hippieindamakin8 ya man..
21:44.36 hippieindamakin8 how do i get this mged program on my comp ?
21:44.46 brlcad well, you install it
21:44.48 brlcad <PROTECTED>
21:44.52 hippieindamakin8 i couldn't find any repositories :P
21:45.04 brlcad ~cadsvn
21:45.05 ibot To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad
21:45.13 hippieindamakin8 ahh thanks
21:47.01 hippieindamakin8 ohh it is automatically installed :)
21:47.16 hippieindamakin8 with brlcad
21:48.31 brlcad hm?
21:48.36 brlcad what's automatically installed?
21:48.46 brlcad that svn command obtains the sources
21:49.06 hippieindamakin8 naah i already have the binaries
21:49.07 brlcad if you want a binary install, there are downloads available through the website
21:49.16 hippieindamakin8 i installed it just now..
21:49.27 brlcad okay
21:49.29 hippieindamakin8 i dint know how to get this mged program running
21:50.52 hippieindamakin8 can you help me start up ?
21:50.58 brlcad i can help a little
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21:51.02 brlcad what's the problem?
21:51.18 brlcad if you run 'mged' it should open up two windows
21:51.46 hippieindamakin8 it aint :( i tried it
21:52.53 hippieindamakin8 actually after an install i tried to launch the program but couldnt do that.. :( tried to locate the files but they were there either
21:55.46 brlcad you'll need to run it via /usr/brlcad/bin/mged if you haven't added /usr/brlcad/bin to your path
21:55.54 brlcad by default, brl-cad installs into /usr/brlcad
21:56.21 brlcad it *entirely* installs into /usr/brlcad so you can actually upgrade/uninstall really easily
21:56.37 hippieindamakin8 thanks
21:56.56 brlcad np
21:58.18 brlcad there are extensive tutorials and documentation on the website at http://brlcad.org/d/documentation
22:00.59 hippieindamakin8 ya started reffering them :) too sleepy at the same time
22:23.35 hippieindamakin8 thanks it started working properly :) i was running from an account(ssh) without Xlib
22:23.52 brlcad ah
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