| 00:29.35 | andrecastelo | brlcad: i managed to get it working, at least half working |
| 00:30.24 | andrecastelo | the thing is - it calculates the region area center but not the assembly area center :( |
| 00:42.51 | brlcad | andrecastelo: so screw the assemblies for now ;) |
| 00:43.36 | brlcad | better yet, you should be able to get it working for "exposed" .. but not easily for presented |
| 00:44.04 | andrecastelo | it is working for both of them, but only for regions |
| 01:02.09 | andrecastelo | brlcad: ok, i'll send the patch now |
| 02:02.06 | andrecastelo | good night everyone |
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| 07:14.59 | clock_ | Anyone likes Hendrix? |
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| 09:49.11 | mafm | hi there |
| 09:57.41 | Axman6 | 'lo |
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| 12:00.54 | cad70 | he? |
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| 13:40.24 | brlcad | hey mafm |
| 13:55.04 | mafm | hi |
| 13:55.29 | mafm | I'm compiling after installing tk8.5-dev and tcl8.5-dev, to know if that solves the issue |
| 13:55.49 | mafm | and I enabled warnings, and it's producing a lot of output |
| 13:56.12 | mafm | opennurbs_mesh.cpp:291: warning: comparing floating point with == or != is unsafe |
| 13:56.24 | mafm | opennurbs_mesh.cpp:1543: warning: conversion to 'unsigned char' from 'int' may alter its value |
| 13:56.38 | mafm | opennurbs_mesh.cpp:2030: warning: declaration of 'd' shadows a previous local |
| 13:56.49 | mafm | opennurbs_light.h:101: warning: type qualifiers ignored on function return type |
| 13:56.53 | mafm | ... and similar ones |
| 13:57.09 | mafm | I guess that they're there for a reason, or would it be worth investigating? |
| 14:10.03 | brlcad | mafm: any warnings in src/other aren't our concern |
| 14:10.13 | brlcad | any warnings outside src/other are fair game |
| 14:11.55 | mafm | oh yep, it's still in other/ it seems |
| 14:12.19 | mafm | our including files from other/ which cause this |
| 14:13.04 | brlcad | well those are just third party sources so unless someone is also going to push the changes upstream, any fixes would be lost the next time that dependency is updated |
| 14:13.27 | mafm | sure |
| 14:13.27 | brlcad | the sources in src/other/* are regularly updated as those packages make releases and we finish testing |
| 14:14.39 | brlcad | we've put a *lot* of effort clearing out the warnings from our main code and it's finally clean -- at least it should be clean for default warnings |
| 14:15.26 | brlcad | the next step is turning up the warnings and fixing those as well, but it's yet another major effort (probably gsoc-worthy in itself) |
| 14:17.24 | mafm | turning up? |
| 14:17.38 | mafm | like enabling non-default warnings? |
| 14:18.23 | mafm | it's just that when I produced the patch I don't remember so many warnings when compiling |
| 14:18.57 | mafm | maybe it's because "-Wall" was only enabled for brl-cad own code, not for others, and --enable-warnings enables those too |
| 14:21.01 | brlcad | yeah, if you add --enable-warnings to configure, it will turn on more verbose warnings |
| 14:21.40 | brlcad | without enable-warnings, default is compiler default |
| 14:21.43 | brlcad | so not Wall |
| 14:22.01 | brlcad | with it, it will report Wall and more |
| 14:22.16 | brlcad | -W -Wall -Wundef -Wfloat-equal -Wshadow -Wunreachable-code -Winline -Wconversion |
| 14:22.21 | brlcad | that's why it's so many |
| 14:22.48 | brlcad | shadow and undef in particular |
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| 14:47.52 | mafm | now I only have 3 related errors |
| 14:48.21 | mafm | make[2]: *** [pl-dm] Error 1 |
| 14:48.21 | mafm | ../../src/libdm/.libs/libdm.so: undefined reference to `XFreeDeviceList' |
| 14:48.21 | mafm | ../../src/libdm/.libs/libdm.so: undefined reference to `XOpenDevice' |
| 14:48.29 | mafm | ../../src/libdm/.libs/libdm.so: undefined reference to `XSelectExtensionEvent' |
| 14:48.29 | mafm | ../../src/libdm/.libs/libdm.so: undefined reference to `XListInputDevices' |
| 14:49.25 | brlcad | that looks like libXi .. a -lXi missing from the link line perhaps |
| 14:49.59 | brlcad | that would/should be in DM_LIBS |
| 14:55.36 | mafm | http://paste.debian.net/836/ |
| 14:56.03 | mafm | there are about 3 like that |
| 14:57.36 | brlcad | hum, it lists -lX11 -lXext .. just not -lXi |
| 14:57.54 | brlcad | do you actually have libXi installed? (what does config.log report for the Xi test?) |
| 15:01.02 | mafm | $ dpkg -S /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 |
| 15:01.02 | mafm | libxi6: /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 |
| 15:01.34 | mafm | configure:28190: checking for XGetExtensionVersion in -lXi |
| 15:01.34 | mafm | configure:28225: gcc -o conftest -I/usr/local/include -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lXi -lX11 -lX11 -lXext >&5 |
| 15:01.34 | mafm | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXi |
| 15:02.02 | brlcad | so that thar be a problem |
| 15:10.51 | brlcad | mafm: can you post your entire config.log somewhere? |
| 15:11.16 | brlcad | I don't see from configure.ac how Xext would pass but Xi fails |
| 15:20.42 | brlcad | mafm: give that last update a try |
| 15:20.50 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30676 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: somehow Xi is not getting detected, seemingly from a failure to include the X11 include dirs. set up CPPFLAGS to see if they can be found. |
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| 15:42.01 | andrecastelo | good morning everyone |
| 15:44.37 | mafm | (sorry, had to fix Makefiles for some guys @ work) |
| 15:46.18 | mafm | brlcad: that's an easy one: I have libxext-whatever-dev installed, but not libxi-dev |
| 15:46.53 | mafm | ii libxext-dev 2:1.0.4-1 X11 miscellaneous extensions library (development headers) |
| 15:46.53 | mafm | pn libxi-dev <none> (no description available) |
| 15:47.49 | mafm | that would be because some package for some reason required libxext-dev to be installed, but not libxi-dev (I didn't install anything explicitly for brlcad, AFAICR) |
| 15:47.54 | mafm | hi andrecastelo |
| 15:47.59 | andrecastelo | hey mafm |
| 15:52.22 | brlcad | good morning andrecastelo |
| 15:52.31 | andrecastelo | good morning brlcad :) |
| 15:53.58 | mafm | brlcad: the patch should probably work, yep |
| 15:54.08 | andrecastelo | be right back, lunch |
| 15:58.07 | mafm | checking for XCreateWindow in -lX11... yes |
| 15:58.07 | mafm | checking for XShapeCombineMask in -lXext... yes |
| 15:58.07 | mafm | checking for XGetExtensionVersion in -lXi... no |
| 15:58.12 | mafm | :) |
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| 16:16.10 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30677 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: push back to next release, time to start testing |
| 16:17.32 | andre|eating | back |
| 16:43.30 | yukonbob | morning cadheads |
| 16:44.21 | mafm | brlcad: http://paste.debian.net/843/ |
| 16:44.26 | mafm | hi yukonbob |
| 16:46.00 | yukonbob | mafm :) -- what's shaking? |
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| 16:48.33 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30678 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Exploratory work for rims. |
| 16:48.40 | mafm | trying to get brlcad to compile in debian, finally |
| 16:48.46 | mafm | with my config at least |
| 16:48.55 | yukonbob | nods |
| 16:49.41 | yukonbob | has heard that the auto* tools are one of the barriers -- Debian versions are patched, and actually "not correct" (/me not speaking from experience, just observations of others) |
| 16:50.37 | hippieindamakin8 | mafm, it compiled on my debian |
| 16:50.44 | mafm | I guess that you already considered CMake? |
| 16:50.52 | hippieindamakin8 | ya |
| 16:51.13 | yukonbob | mafn it's been talked about, but there's a big investment in auto* already, and for the most part, auto* works... |
| 16:51.43 | hippieindamakin8 | i had compiling problems on my desktop though which runs on xubuntu (which ofcourse is debain based) |
| 16:52.18 | yukonbob | is getting CMake manual soon, though, and I think brlcad has an interestest (if not an already solid understanding?) of CMake too, in general. |
| 16:54.00 | andrecastelo | morning yukonbob :) |
| 16:54.41 | yukonbob | brlcad: morning -- q: re: gui crash reporter (bombardier) -- is the bombardier the reference to the co. that makes personal rec. vehicles, airplanes, trains, etc.? |
| 16:54.51 | yukonbob | andrecastelo: :) |
| 16:55.20 | yukonbob | brlcad: (ref. TODO) |
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| 17:10.02 | jdoline1 | brlcad are you here? |
| 17:10.14 | brlcad | jdoline1: hello |
| 17:10.21 | jdoline1 | hi |
| 17:10.31 | brlcad | mafm: it'll take me a few to catch up, kinda hungry ;) |
| 17:11.40 | brlcad | mafm: but yes, cmake would be cool .. but would also be a pretty big effort to fully replicate what the autotools are presently doing -- the error you're getting would not go away with cmake |
| 17:12.11 | brlcad | as that's still just leaving -lXi off the link line |
| 17:12.15 | brlcad | try adding it manually |
| 17:12.25 | jdoline1 | I'm planning on coding a patch right now to determine whether or not two polynomial chains intersect |
| 17:12.25 | brlcad | make LIBS=-lXi |
| 17:15.44 | jdoline1 | perhaps you could provide some guidance? |
| 17:16.18 | brlcad | jdoline1: not right this second, I'm kinda hungry for lunch -- though I do have a few other questions for you |
| 17:16.29 | jdoline1 | okay shoot |
| 17:17.05 | mafm | with <brlcad> make LIBS=-lXi, it works |
| 17:17.37 | brlcad | cool |
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| 17:52.52 | ``Erik | $700 for a pair of tires, yeesh |
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| 17:55.25 | archivist | if you can afford the car that take that sort of tires...... |
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| 18:17.35 | mafm | bye |
| 18:57.10 | prasad_ | still have that m3? |
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| 19:07.49 | brlcad | and he just e-mailed |
| 19:09.03 | brlcad | yukonbob: sorry - missed your question about bombardier, no it's not |
| 19:09.48 | brlcad | I started a new generalized crash reporter tool that can kick off if an app crashes, named it bombardier |
| 19:14.27 | yukonbob | nods |
| 19:16.52 | brlcad | actually kinda nifty, should rival mozillas when it's done |
| 19:18.06 | yukonbob | one thing I don't like about cmake is the colour output - reminds me of linux distros that have colour 'ls', and 'vim' w/ syntax highlighting (ugh :P) |
| 19:18.31 | yukonbob | re: bombardier -- is C, Tcl, combo, or ?? |
| 19:24.29 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30679 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/openw.tcl: apply a modified version of sf patch 1940958 (Fix for bad paths in .mgedrc on Windows) from Elena Bautu - ebautu. |
| 19:24.46 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30680 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: More rim experimentation. Dimensions are off somewhere in wheel - need to re-factor equations. |
| 19:25.05 | brlcad | it's C, calling through to the C side of Tcl/Tk |
| 19:31.00 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30681 10/brlcad/trunk/ (AUTHORS NEWS): |
| 19:31.00 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: credit elena bautu for her patch to handle paths with spaces in the .mgedrc |
| 19:31.00 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: file. accepted sf patch 1940958 (Fix for bad paths in .mgedrc on Windows) which |
| 19:31.00 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: bob applied via proxy through dave. the patch also tests for internet |
| 19:31.02 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: exploder's existence for reading the html help files. |
| 19:34.06 | yukonbob | heh -- "Internet Exploder" in official commit msgs |
| 20:34.52 | poolio | yukonbob: you don't use vim with syntax highlighting? |
| 20:57.30 | yukonbob | poolio -- I don't use vim if I can help it, and turn off syntax highlighting when I need to use vim |
| 21:03.04 | prasad_ | bombardier eh |
| 21:03.21 | prasad_ | it's gonna keep bombing after it bombs the first time? |
| 21:03.24 | prasad_ | :P |
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| 21:08.28 | CIA-10 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30682 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Add patterning for subtracting holes from the wheel. |
| 21:42.24 | poolio | yukonbob: Do you just find it annoying? I find it quite helpful and nice |
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| 22:14.01 | yukonbob | poolio: it makes my eyes bleed. |
| 22:15.07 | yukonbob | I prefer my tools dumb... |
| 22:15.42 | yukonbob | (might sound ironic considering I'm an emacs fan... but emacs is just full featured ;) |
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| 22:34.46 | brlcad | prasad_: one can only hope |
| 22:43.05 | andrecastelo | hey cadheads :D |
| 22:48.07 | brlcad | howdy andrecastelo |
| 22:50.53 | starseeker_home | gets meowed at |
| 22:58.40 | andrecastelo | hey brlcad , how you doing ? |
| 22:58.47 | andrecastelo | :) |
| 23:05.35 | brlcad | andrecastelo: pretty goood |
| 23:05.49 | brlcad | though I just lost one of our conflict students to another org :) |
| 23:05.55 | brlcad | (sorry yukonbob) :) |
| 23:07.28 | andrecastelo | yukonbob was a student ? |
| 23:07.41 | andrecastelo | i'm lost lol |
| 23:08.28 | brlcad | nope, he was going to be her mentor |
| 23:08.51 | pacman87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.14 | brlcad | student was highly ranked at both our org and ccan, rusty and I talked into detail and the proposal was pretty much just as useful to both orgs (and the student has been one of the most responsive easy to talk to of all applicants, current company notwithstanding ;) |
| 23:10.37 | brlcad | pacman87: her application was the best of the web-based model repository proposals |
| 23:12.50 | andrecastelo | brlcad: hehehe.. what was her nickname here in irc ? |
| 23:14.27 | brlcad | she was entirely via e-mail and the app form |
| 23:19.03 | andrecastelo | oh |
| 23:21.34 | starseeker_home | Hey, cool : http://ed-thelen.org/bab/bab_tech.html#bab-t-append |
| 23:21.52 | brlcad | so -0.1 points for no irc, but she made up for it heavily with the quality of her communications |
| 23:22.02 | starseeker_home | anybody feel like cad modeling a Babbage Difference Engine? :-) |
| 23:25.15 | andrecastelo | about students, what is the thing you guys value the most in them ? |
| 23:25.33 | andrecastelo | experience? knowledge? programming skills ? |
| 23:25.53 | brlcad | andrecastelo: their interest in become a long term developer with the project |
| 23:26.53 | brlcad | passion for working with the project and their ability to communicate effectively with others |
| 23:27.54 | brlcad | experience and knowledge can be acquired, skills can be taught |
| 23:27.59 | brlcad | s/become/becoming/ |
| 23:28.20 | andrecastelo | that's really nice :) |
| 23:28.54 | andrecastelo | some other orgs don't act like that :( |
| 23:28.55 | brlcad | that said, they better not be a bag of hammers either :) |
| 23:29.08 | andrecastelo | bag of hammers ? |
| 23:29.19 | brlcad | dumb as a bag of hammers |
| 23:29.46 | andrecastelo | heheh |