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BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30826
10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Take a try at making tire
shaping more robust |
01:57.23 |
starseeker_ |
``Erik: OK, not ready for thickness stuff
yet, but take a stab at your weird European tire sizes. |
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03:01.04 |
``Erik |
heh, was just a random size, not my fault that
russia actually uses it |
04:16.38 |
yukonbob |
evening, cadheads |
04:21.06 |
Axman6 |
brlcad: yt? getting an error on OS X, and i
can't remember if it's the same as what i was getting before (i
installed the latest X11 update yesterday, and wanted to see if
those issues had been fixed) |
04:22.18 |
Axman6 |
the error is as folows, for anyone
interested... |
04:22.19 |
Axman6 |
Initializing and backgrounding, please
wait...The process has forked and you cannot use this
CoreFoundation functionality safely. You MUST exec(). |
04:22.23 |
Axman6 |
Break on
__THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__()
to debug. |
04:22.46 |
Axman6 |
and the two lines, starting at "The process
has forkedâ¦" are repeated about 6 times |
04:31.45 |
yukonbob |
Axman6: what is generating this
error? |
04:31.58 |
Axman6 |
mged with no flags |
04:32.57 |
yukonbob |
hrmm.. |
04:33.49 |
yukonbob |
what's the flag to keep mged from detaching?
(ie: run in foreground)? |
05:07.31 |
Axman6 |
-d? i'll have a look... |
05:39.27 |
Axman6 |
-c. and that works, but i don't get the full
gui :( |
05:48.39 |
yukonbob |
-c == classic, iirc |
05:48.58 |
yukonbob |
(/me doesn't have BRL-CAD installed atm)
:P |
05:53.48 |
Axman6 |
heh |
06:28.28 |
brlcad |
Axman6: that's fixed on head, should be fixed
in the 7.12.2 release |
06:28.37 |
brlcad |
haven't put up binaries yet, that's this
weekend |
06:29.06 |
brlcad |
otherwise, mged -f should do the
trick |
06:36.46 |
Axman6 |
ooo, mged -f works fine with the version i
have now :) |
06:37.22 |
Axman6 |
which is 7.10.2 apparently. i'll try
installing 7.12.0 |
06:39.19 |
Axman6 |
is the aqua-tk version any good? |
06:40.46 |
brlcad |
there isn't an aqua-tk version of
BRL-CAD |
06:40.53 |
brlcad |
at least not yet |
06:42.05 |
Axman6 |
hmm, ok. well configure script seems to imply
there is one. |
06:42.28 |
brlcad |
how so? |
06:43.12 |
Axman6 |
--enable-aquatk-build Use Aqua windowing
system on Mac OS X (default=no) |
06:43.38 |
brlcad |
ah, right -- it's because that's something
actively being worked on ;) |
06:43.58 |
brlcad |
but there's still never been a release to date
yet, few unresolved issues |
06:44.06 |
Axman6 |
ah, ok :) |
06:45.40 |
Axman6 |
doesn't seem to like --enable-64bit-build on
my system. not that it's important though, it'd just be nice to
have _something_ that was actually 64-bit on here, that wasn't
Xcode, or chess |
06:49.26 |
brlcad |
10.4? |
06:49.56 |
brlcad |
10.4 doesn't provide 64-bit libs for a few
critical libraries, like X11 |
06:50.55 |
Axman6 |
10.5 |
06:53.45 |
Axman6 |
looks like all the X11 libraries are 64-bit
here. might be building against something from macports that it
shouldn't |
06:57.58 |
brlcad |
hm or something entirely different |
07:00.38 |
brlcad |
i've only built on 10.5 remoteley and it
merely required a few petty patches be applied in addition to the
configure flags |
07:01.00 |
Axman6 |
on this very machine ;) |
07:02.12 |
brlcad |
heh, right .. the names sometimes blend
:) |
07:02.23 |
Axman6 |
s'ok :) |
07:02.55 |
brlcad |
yeah, your build worked cleanly for me -- even
graphical mged via remote X |
07:02.56 |
yukonbob |
anybody mind if I ask an OT nm(1)
question? |
07:03.20 |
brlcad |
which at the time basically just pointed at
there being a problem with apple's X11 server still |
07:03.32 |
brlcad |
does nm |
07:03.47 |
brlcad |
s/nm/not mind/ |
07:04.18 |
yukonbob |
:) |
07:05.22 |
yukonbob |
q: should a library have unresolved symbols?
It seems obvious to me the answer is "no", but I've got one that's
_full_ of unresolved symbols (is related to MesaLib being updated
to 7.x on my NetBSD machine) |
07:05.36 |
brlcad |
it can have unresolved symbols |
07:05.57 |
brlcad |
ld tries to resolve them at run-time |
07:06.06 |
yukonbob |
hrmm... |
07:06.14 |
brlcad |
hence the ld.so.conf paths and
LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
07:06.52 |
yukonbob |
hrmm... |
07:06.57 |
Axman6 |
urgh, benchmark fails. pretty badly |
07:07.22 |
Axman6 |
i'll try out 7.12.3 i guess |
07:07.25 |
Axman6 |
if i can? |
07:07.29 |
brlcad |
ideally, libs are fully resolved/resolvable --
frameworks with dylibs attempt to provide fully resolved libs for
example |
07:09.12 |
brlcad |
Axman6: how is benchmark failing |
07:09.23 |
brlcad |
(see one of the log file) |
07:09.36 |
Axman6 |
+++++ sphflake |
07:09.36 |
Axman6 |
RAYTRACE ERROR |
07:09.36 |
Axman6 |
sphflake.pix: No such file or
directory |
07:09.36 |
Axman6 |
sphflake.pix: BENCHMARK COMPARISON
FAILURE |
07:09.39 |
Axman6 |
:| |
07:10.01 |
brlcad |
what's near the bottom of moss.log |
07:10.49 |
Axman6 |
ah, never mind. guess it was just make
benchmark that was having problems |
07:11.06 |
brlcad |
hm? |
07:11.17 |
Axman6 |
the `benchmark` command seems to be
working |
07:11.21 |
brlcad |
that would be a bog if true |
07:11.30 |
brlcad |
a bug even |
07:11.39 |
Axman6 |
not sure what i did wrong, but i'm sure it's
my problem, not yours ;) |
07:12.36 |
brlcad |
heh, okay |
07:12.51 |
brlcad |
the end of the log file would stil gue
u; |
07:13.57 |
brlcad |
<PROTECTED> |
07:14.15 |
Axman6 |
dyld: Symbol not found:
__cg_png_create_info_struct Referenced from:
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO
Expected in:
/Users/Axman/compiled-projects/brlcad-7.12.0/src/other/libpng/.libs/libpng.1.dylib |
07:15.08 |
brlcad |
ah, right .. keep forgetting about that
problem |
07:15.19 |
Axman6 |
uh, "dyld: warning, DYLD_ setting caused
circular dependency in /usr/X11/lib/libGL.1.dylib |
07:15.23 |
brlcad |
the build fix is to just
--disable-png |
07:15.29 |
brlcad |
s/build/quick/ |
07:15.31 |
Axman6 |
was before that, should've stuck that in
too |
07:15.45 |
brlcad |
too many typos and forgettings, I must need to
reboot |
07:16.04 |
Axman6 |
s/reboot/sleep |
07:18.30 |
Axman6 |
heh, there's no google sketchup importer is
there? |
07:21.00 |
Axman6 |
hmm, mged won't run now. http://pastie.caboo.se/187167 |
07:22.35 |
brlcad |
yeah, that's trying to use the system
libs |
07:22.38 |
brlcad |
for tcl/tk |
07:22.45 |
brlcad |
that's nfg for brl-cad guild |
07:22.45 |
Axman6 |
anything i can do to fix that? |
07:23.26 |
brlcad |
--enable-tcl --enable-tk |
07:24.08 |
brlcad |
suggests reading INSTALL if
you're not already, it's not generic |
07:24.10 |
Axman6 |
cheers |
08:34.22 |
louipc |
clear |
08:34.26 |
louipc |
oops |
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12:28.37 |
``Erik |
hum |
12:28.45 |
starseeker_ |
hmm? |
12:29.23 |
``Erik |
I seem to have filled up a hard drive and lost
one of my miniscreen cookies |
12:29.32 |
starseeker_ |
ow |
12:29.53 |
``Erik |
gonna try to get it back :D |
12:31.12 |
``Erik |
even if it involved writing a kernel module
O.o |
12:31.30 |
starseeker_ |
eeep |
12:52.53 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30827
10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (tire.1 tire.c): Add size-related
scaling for thicknesses and an option to override the tire
thickness. |
12:53.37 |
starseeker_ |
OK ``Erik. if you can spare a sec from kernel
hacking see what the next way to bust it is |
12:57.38 |
``Erik |
that'd involve compiling it hehehe |
12:58.27 |
``Erik |
huh |
12:58.45 |
``Erik |
seems my process has went and actually
corrupted itself slightly |
13:01.25 |
starseeker_ |
ow |
13:02.00 |
starseeker_ |
what'd you DO to it?? |
13:05.35 |
``Erik |
uhmmm, actually, i'm not sure now, it might be
fine and I'm just getting a lamed up symbol table :) |
13:06.29 |
``Erik |
it's been running for 127 days and I may've
upgraded the software without restarting hte process...
O.o |
13:06.31 |
starseeker_ |
would probably reboot in
disgust... |
13:07.07 |
``Erik |
yes, linux and windows weenies share that
kneejerk reaction :D |
13:07.32 |
starseeker_ |
can live with a reboot every
127 days... |
13:07.45 |
starseeker_ |
helps to test the bootstrap process of
booting... |
13:08.42 |
``Erik |
heh, might explain why linux starts doing
really weird things around 200 days but bsd can stay solid over
1000 (seen sun up at 1400) |
13:08.59 |
``Erik |
too busy testing the boot process to test the
reliability aspect O.o |
13:09.01 |
``Erik |
:D |
13:09.36 |
starseeker_ |
<snort> If you want uptimes like that
Debian stable might be a good place to start... |
13:09.54 |
``Erik |
got one, kernel still pukes itself
up |
13:10.18 |
``Erik |
I wonder of that new 'pslice' thing linux has
will get some progress in the reliability direction going |
13:10.33 |
starseeker_ |
dunno |
13:10.43 |
``Erik |
I thought about implementing that for fbsd
many years ago, but didn't know nearly enough about the kernel guts
at the time to jump on it |
13:11.04 |
``Erik |
and have changed my views on upgrading
since |
13:11.30 |
starseeker_ |
figures for the vast
majority of home users in the world the POWER will fail at least
once within 200 days. |
13:12.57 |
starseeker_ |
How do you fault test for an "after 200 days"
bug anyway? |
13:12.57 |
``Erik |
(any upgrade/change that might disrupt service
doesn't get blindly applied, I read changelogs and security
bullitens and decide based on my usage) |
13:13.03 |
starseeker_ |
cool |
13:13.52 |
``Erik |
things go "spooky", like I've seen a couple
instances where load goes skyrocketting while cpu usage is low,
context switches are low, interrupts are low... |
13:14.06 |
``Erik |
until it crashes |
13:14.17 |
starseeker_ |
scowls at Amazon's Lisp in
Small Pieces listings and wonders why ALL the used/new offerings
other than Amazon's own are either the same price or
MORE... |
13:14.19 |
``Erik |
or completely siezes and gets the big red
button treatment |
13:14.33 |
starseeker_ |
Hmm. |
13:15.02 |
starseeker_ |
Need good logging to be able to do anything
with a situation like that... |
13:15.47 |
``Erik |
of course, that I have the data to spot that
behavior instead of just saying "it crashed and got rebooted" is
not normal :D |
13:16.04 |
``Erik |
it's "enterprisy", but good
"enterprisy" |
13:18.47 |
starseeker_ |
heh |
13:40.51 |
``Erik |
blargh, *surrender* :/ |
13:41.28 |
``Erik |
I'm either guessing a bad 50 meg range or
something's just screwey |
14:02.39 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30828
10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (tire.1 tire.c): Add option to specify
rim width |
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CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30829
10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Change default tire size to
something a little more common. |
14:43.04 |
brlcad |
he's on a roll |
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``Erik |
only as long as his tires come out round,
unlike that one I made yesterday :D |
15:56.13 |
starseeker_ |
``Erik: You want round tires? Boy, you're
demanding |
15:56.18 |
starseeker_ |
:-P |
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CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30830
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/str.c: |
16:07.26 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: only warn about the string truncation
if debug is turned as it is indeed |
16:07.26 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: entirely valid for the src string in
strlcpy to be longer than size. this check |
16:07.26 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: was mainly added because there was a
slew of strncpy code migrated over and the |
16:07.26 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: truncation by the new strlcpy wasn't
intentional (or desirable). there are |
16:07.28 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: undoubtedly more callers that need to
be weeded out. |
16:08.04 |
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CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30831 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5
files in 2 dirs): the start of consolidating and long-term efforts
to eliminate library globals. add a globals.c source with the
malloc.c globals for starters. |
16:34.47 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30832
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/ (globals.c malloc.c vls.c): move
bu_vls_message and bu_strdup_message to globals.c |
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CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30833
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/ (globals.c ispar.c parallel.c): move
bu_pid_of_initiating_thread from ispar.c to globals.c |
16:46.39 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30834
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/ (bomb.c globals.c): move bu_setjmp_valid
and bu_jmpbuf from bomb.c to globals.c |
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CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30835
10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (tire.1 tire.c): Add second tread
pattern, enable selection of pattern types at command
line. |
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19:00.05 |
brlcad |
hey paul |
19:00.26 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: hey |
19:01.16 |
csanyipal |
sean: hey |
19:01.32 |
brlcad |
how goes it |
19:01.59 |
brlcad |
fyi, that write error you reported "should" be
gone with the latest release |
19:02.00 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: Thank you, not so good. |
19:02.07 |
brlcad |
ah, sorry to hear that |
19:02.51 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: I have reinstalled my Debian system
and must to reinstall brl-cad too. |
19:04.20 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: and the same error occure again, when
I try to Raytrace the mug. |
19:05.14 |
brlcad |
the bu_log error? |
19:05.26 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: I have installed the brl-cad from the
tarball, downloaded from the Sourceforge.net |
19:05.42 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: yes, the bu_log error. |
19:07.35 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: I edit the .bash_profile: export
FB_FILE=/dev/Xl |
19:07.46 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: but that not help. |
19:08.52 |
brlcad |
yeah, that's not related |
19:09.02 |
brlcad |
what does binfo report? |
19:09.04 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: mybe must I to install something more,
but I can't remember what. |
19:10.05 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: bu_version=[BRL-CAD Release 7.10.4
The BRL-CAD Utility Library Thu Oct 25 16:34:31 EDT 2007,
Compilation 1 morrison@xoff.arl.army.mil:/usr/brlcad/rel-7.10.4
] bn_version=[BRL-CAD Release 7.10.4 The BRL-CAD Numerical
Computation Library Thu Oct 25 16:34:31 EDT 2007, Compilation 1
morrison@xoff.arl.army.mil:/usr/brlcad/rel-7.10.4 ]
rt_version=[BRL-CAD Re |
19:10.05 |
csanyipal |
lease 7.10.4 The BRL-CAD Ray-Tracing Library
Thu Oct 25 16:34:31 EDT 2007, Compilation 1
morrison@xoff.arl.army.mil:/usr/brlcad/rel-7.10.4 ]
fb_version=[BRL-CAD Release 7.10.4 The BRL-CAD Framebuffer Library
Thu Oct 25 16:34:31 EDT 2007, Compilation 1
morrison@xoff.arl.army.mil:/usr/brlcad/rel-7.10.4 ] |
19:10.26 |
brlcad |
that's still 7.10.4 .. try the latest
release |
19:10.31 |
brlcad |
7.12.2 |
19:11.00 |
brlcad |
was released last week |
19:11.16 |
brlcad |
or even better, try latest svn so I can try
fixes live if you run into problems |
19:11.18 |
brlcad |
~cadsvn |
19:11.19 |
ibot |
To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn
checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk
brlcad |
19:11.22 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: From where to download it? |
19:11.34 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: OK |
19:12.18 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: Thank you! |
19:13.24 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: I go now to obtain the latest
svn.. |
19:13.50 |
brlcad |
great |
19:13.55 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30836
10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/chgview.c: don't need to manually
null-terminate with bu_strlcpy |
19:14.22 |
brlcad |
i made some debian fixes a couple weeks ago so
it should actually build much better on debian now |
19:15.48 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: In the latest svn? |
19:16.07 |
brlcad |
hm? |
19:16.50 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: If I obtain the latest brlcad from svn
then I get this fixes? |
19:16.57 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30837 10/brlcad/trunk/ (6
files in 2 dirs): move over the bu_log_hook_list too to globals.c
and fix some missing declarations. make the bu_log lists
non-published since nobody is using it. |
19:19.12 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30838
10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS: noticed that the graphics window in mged
wasn't responding to key events properly. sends the keys to the
command window even when the graphics window has focus. |
19:19.18 |
brlcad |
csanyipal: ah, yes |
19:19.42 |
brlcad |
every one of those CIA notices is a *live*
change notification .. that's the source code changing |
19:20.10 |
brlcad |
if you have an svn checkout, you can "svn
update" and it'll get any changes since the last time you updated
or ran checkout |
19:20.59 |
csanyipal |
brlcad: OK |
19:33.42 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30839
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/bomb.c: it was (re)published in bu.h so
decl is not needed |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30840
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/ (getopt.c globals.c): move the bu_getopt
globals over to globals.c |
19:56.11 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30841
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/magic.c: header cleanup |
20:19.51 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30842
10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Switch the naming on the two
patterns for consistency - default now pairs smooth profile with
auto tread. |
20:27.10 |
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20:27.35 |
prasad1 |
brlcad, ``Erik, u guys there? |
20:27.50 |
brlcad |
nope |
20:30.19 |
brlcad |
~ask |
20:30.20 |
ibot |
Questions in the channel should be specific,
informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can
ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask
what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently
yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our
will. |
20:35.52 |
prasad1 |
wasn't there a kyle bodt in 328? |
20:44.49 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30843 10/brlcad/trunk/ (6
files in 4 dirs): remove the bu_observer_cmds global by turning it
into a static and wrapping it up in a new bu_observer_cmd()
callback that the various callers use instead of bu_cmd. |
20:47.31 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30844
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/parallel.c: non-global for cray |
20:58.30 |
``Erik |
d'no if he was in 328, know he was in 238 for
a bit |
21:34.55 |
CIA-20 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30845
10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Add a couple of default behavor
tweaks for flags. |
21:55.37 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30846
10/brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: src/libbn/axis.c claims to have been
started in august 1978 by mike, that pushes his first known actual
development date back a bit |
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