IRC log for #brlcad on 20080523

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01:05.04 brlcad yay, indy time
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02:09.35 cad38 hey
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03:52.53 PrezKennedy brlcad, how was indiana jones... I'm guessing that's what you went to see...
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05:00.19 learner PrezKennedy: yup
05:00.50 learner and guess who went .. someone you know that hasn't been to a theater in years! :)
05:01.57 learner it was pretty good, it's in the same spirit as the others .. there were a few scenes that were pretty cheezy/contrived, but overall I liked it
05:02.07 learner not as good as 1 or 3, but probably better than 2
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06:14.53 brlcad uh oh
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07:45.09 brlcad recovers from the full disks
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12:56.44 homovulgaris hi all :)
12:57.09 homovulgaris hey Sean, u there :) ?
12:57.36 homovulgaris i was planning on writing the tests for the polynomial coefficient change i had done.
12:57.59 homovulgaris what all should the test check ? 1. the limits of the root solver ? 2. comparison between pre and post patch results ? and 3. using an external solver like gsl ?
13:18.51 PrezKennedy part 2 was godawful
13:19.24 homovulgaris :) ?
13:20.29 homovulgaris has anybody tried out opencascade ..
13:21.08 homovulgaris trying to get salome running on debian unstable
13:49.41 brlcad howdy homovulgaris -- those all sound like reasonable things to test
13:50.37 brlcad probably in order of 2, 1, 3
13:51.31 brlcad as well as a macro-level test, running the benchmark to make sure the results are correct (make benchmark or 'benchmark' after install)
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14:07.03 poolio brlcad: AH DISKS FULL. Oh, good work :P
14:12.00 homovulgaris ok ;) on it..
14:20.46 brlcad poolio: yeah, it happens every few months if left unattended
14:21.11 brlcad the machine generates *massive* amounts of log data across all services given how busy it is and what it's used for
14:22.01 brlcad where massive is several GB/month (of text)
14:23.02 brlcad which is all neatly compressed and managed, but still accummulates slowly .. and coupled with general multiuser system tendancy to fill to the available resources ... :)
14:23.33 brlcad alas reason to get back to work on the system migration where the new servers have a lot more disk
14:23.59 brlcad it does encourage/enforce me regularly cleaning up the filesystem though, so not too bad :)
14:43.13 ``Erik so migrate already, beeyotch :D
14:44.05 ``Erik I wonder if it'd be useful to do piecewise migration, like move named responsibility to th enew one, then mebbe db stuff to the new one, then mail to the new one, then web to the new one... over the course of a couple weeks or something
14:44.20 ``Erik instead of one big switch
15:03.18 brlcad yeah, thought about that some
15:04.08 brlcad i think it's just more a matter "doing it", whether piecewise or in whole
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15:16.09 PrezKennedy homovulgaris, i meant part 2 of indiana jones... ;)
15:16.50 PrezKennedy brlcad, so my mom actually went? she never goes to the movies
15:21.07 brlcad yep
15:21.26 brlcad had a good time too, I think
15:21.46 brlcad said she was probably good for another 5 years now
15:25.10 clock_ brlcad: by telling your mom is alive you are giving some partial information about your age, don't you see that as a problem?
15:26.01 louipc my mom's mom is still alive
15:28.07 poolio brlcad: true true, my filesystem is getting messy these days
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15:37.44 brlcad clock_: actually wasn't saying anything about my mother, but yes she is still alive and no I don't see that as a problem at all (I'm quite thrilled my parents are alive, tyvm)
17:12.31 poolio brlcad: so I think I've got working sphere and cylinder. That's not to say I understand Brep at all, I just know how to write a few lines of code ;)
17:15.16 poolio brlcad: Also, how is the C++ going to factor in with the existing C librt code?
17:52.34 ``Erik notes that human lifespan runs from 0 years to in excess of 120 years, and humans are physically capable of breeding as young as ~12, so a fact like ones mother being alive does *NOT* say terribly much about ones age O.o
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18:31.13 brlcad poolio: i'm (mentally) working that out now, ideally/necessarily they should be separate compilation units, yet we want them grouped together
18:31.48 brlcad so I think I need to do some restructuring, move each primitive into its own subdir
18:32.24 ``Erik opposed to simple wrapper in src/librt++/ ?
18:32.25 brlcad and then break them up .. then your routine is just the g_obj_brep.cpp file
18:33.07 brlcad ``Erik: he's not making an OO interface, he's implementing a single C routine for each primitive
18:33.13 brlcad but the back-end guts to the routine use C++
18:33.18 brlcad via openNURBS
18:33.37 brlcad so it's really still part of librt, just implementation detail
18:33.41 brlcad not a layer on top
18:34.05 ``Erik ah
18:34.30 brlcad so instead of turning each primitive into a cpp file, I'm thinking to just break them up
18:34.55 brlcad had that in mind for a long while actually, as a way to organize the bits already there (e.g. the 30+ nurbs files, to 30+ nmg files, etc)
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19:54.30 poolio brlcad: cool cool
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20:57.29 ``Erik what? seize the carp?
21:29.38 CIA-21 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31174 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS src/rt/opt.c src/rt/rtcheck.1 src/rt/viewcheck.c): (log message trimmed)
21:29.38 CIA-21 BRL-CAD: bob added this option way back in 2005 ( 15 Aug 2005 21:43:07 to be exact ) but
21:29.38 CIA-21 BRL-CAD: it was never documented. this option makes rtcheck write the plot file data in
21:29.38 CIA-21 BRL-CAD: text format instead of the default binary format. binary should probably not be
21:29.41 CIA-21 BRL-CAD: the default, so presumably this was a first step towards that direction; at
21:29.43 CIA-21 BRL-CAD: least it lets you get text instead of binary so you can avoid the tty warning
21:29.45 CIA-21 BRL-CAD: about binary output. reduce globals by one, the code is updated to reuse the
22:04.13 starseeker_ ``Erik: That's not how I fish for carp...
22:06.37 starseeker_ uses pole and bait rather than seizing with hands...
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22:08.06 ``Erik yeah, you're a wuss
22:08.06 ``Erik :D
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22:48.19 CIA-21 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31175 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: it really just causes too much confusion. z-clipping should be off by default.
23:22.36 ``Erik http://www.explosm.net/comics/1286/
23:28.28 starseeker_ brlcad: What was that trick you used yesterday to capture the nirt command used by mged?
23:28.45 starseeker_ or dump it to a file rather
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23:35.25 brlcad nirt > some_file
23:35.49 brlcad ooh
23:35.54 brlcad saveview
23:36.34 brlcad saves the view .. view scripts just happen to also be render scripts (since they have all the necessary view information)
23:37.27 brlcad notes that nirt only needs a -o option to be compatible with the saveview script interface .. someone(tm) should add that

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