| 00:00.10 | andrecastelo | hm, ok, msys doesn't have any autotools, so i'll switch to linux and do it there |
| 00:07.28 | brlcad | don't worry about it, just commit it :) |
| 00:07.36 | brlcad | I can test it far easier/quickly |
| 00:07.49 | PrezzKennedy | howdy brlcad |
| 00:07.57 | brlcad | and if you're on the commit list, you'll see any related fix so you'll know what to do next time |
| 00:08.00 | brlcad | howdy PrezzKennedy |
| 00:08.04 | brlcad | double zee day, eh? |
| 00:08.22 | PrezKennedy | not purposefully ;) |
| 00:08.23 | brlcad | double en day, eh? |
| 00:08.48 | PrezKennedy | every day is a double en day! |
| 00:09.18 | brlcad | participates in double arr day |
| 00:09.22 | brlcad | arrr |
| 00:09.30 | brlcad | arrrr |
| 00:09.47 | PrezKennedy | arrr! |
| 00:12.06 | andrecastelo | hm ok, hopefully i won't break anything :) |
| 00:20.59 | brlcad | nothing that can't be easily undone |
| 00:23.45 | andrecastelo | i've got a property problem |
| 00:23.58 | andrecastelo | hm let me show you |
| 00:24.00 | andrecastelo | 1 sec |
| 00:29.46 | andrecastelo | ok, here - > http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2897/commitproblemvz8.jpg |
| 00:35.44 | brlcad | see dev page on wiki .. faq :) |
| 00:36.14 | andrecastelo | ok, will do |
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| 00:56.53 | IriX64 | http://www.irix32.spaces.live.com/photos |
| 00:57.03 | IriX64 | pick the brlcad albumn :) |
| 01:55.26 | andrecastelo | hey brlcad, i managed to get the automatic properties working and nearly all files now have mime prop |
| 01:55.52 | andrecastelo | except for brlcad.sln |
| 01:56.34 | andrecastelo | i checked the msvc8/brlcad/brlcad.sln and it doesn't have a mime property |
| 02:09.16 | starseeker_ | growls at the oed pdf... |
| 02:15.03 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03andrecastelo * r31234 10/brlcad/trunk/ (292 files in 147 dirs): Modifications and additions made to incorporate misc/win32-msvc9. |
| 02:21.26 | pacman87 | 292 files? |
| 02:26.24 | louipc | bah microsoft |
| 02:27.27 | andrecastelo | actually, i think svn counted the dirs as well, as there is one file per dir o.O |
| 02:36.37 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03andrecastelo * r31235 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc9/libbu/libbu.vcproj: Updated msvc9's libbu.vcproj to reflect modifications made to the msvc8 version. |
| 03:03.30 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 03:07.43 | pacman87 | hi yukonbob |
| 03:25.07 | brlcad | andrecastelo: mm, probably one I need to add to my list .. the new "vc9 solution" files |
| 03:25.26 | brlcad | it should probably be treated just like dsp and other vc files |
| 03:25.52 | brlcad | oh, sln is in my config file .. just no mime type |
| 03:26.07 | brlcad | bah, it's just text/plain |
| 03:30.47 | brlcad | andrecastelo: with that change, that's actually "user visible" |
| 03:30.56 | brlcad | so you should update NEWS too |
| 04:03.54 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31236 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/arced.c: sys headers before public, common before sys |
| 04:11.06 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31237 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (8 files): more header cleanup, use relative paths for private headers |
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| 05:15.57 | andrecastelo__ | i guess my connection isn't exactly stable right now S: |
| 05:23.06 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03andrecastelo * r31238 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Added a line, in the latest release, about compilation support for the MSVC 9. |
| 05:24.18 | PrezKennedy | brlcad, you need to convince my dad he needs to upgrade the modem and the router he has so the Internet stays up better |
| 05:25.21 | PrezKennedy | it was down for a week and my mom had no e-mail... so the first night im home im troubleshooting computer stuff :P |
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| 08:01.11 | d_rossberg | a question for the C++/gcc gurus: what's wrong with line 12 in http://ftp.brlcad.org/~rossberg/test.cpp ? |
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| 08:55.46 | homovulgaris | hi all :) |
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| 10:31.37 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31239 10/brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/nirt.c: Switch from using arbitrary fixed buffer size in nirt's listformats to using bu_vls and bu_vls_gets |
| 10:41.58 | starseeker_ | brlcad: Hmm. Is it possible to assign contents to a vls like this: bu_vls_addr(&line_buffer)[i] = '\0'; or is that too low level to work? |
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| 13:05.52 | brlcad | starseeker_: whethere you can do that or not ... you really shouldn't :) |
| 13:06.07 | brlcad | what do you need to inject nulls for? |
| 13:11.22 | Axman6 | everyone knows nulls take up less RAM |
| 13:11.24 | Axman6 | >_> |
| 13:14.08 | ``Erik | heh |
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| 13:39.16 | homovulgaris | hey sean is there any issue regarding using STL for the parametrics and constraints part |
| 13:40.23 | homovulgaris | i mean since there are no bindings presently interfacing with librt would be tricky .. but other than that ? |
| 13:41.14 | homovulgaris | also :) did u have a look at my patch :) |
| 13:47.28 | ``Erik | STL isn't ubiquitous, so it'd have to be included in src/other/... what functionality is missing from libbu that'd make STL necessary? |
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| 14:04.48 | clock_ | "What is the first version of BRL-CAD you used?" |
| 14:04.52 | clock_ | How do I figure that out? |
| 14:05.01 | ``Erik | you, uh, remember? :D |
| 14:05.21 | louipc | I misremembered |
| 14:05.24 | clock_ | May 16, 2005 |
| 14:05.27 | clock_ | which version was that? |
| 14:05.33 | ``Erik | I think a 6 |
| 14:05.43 | clock_ | I already voted, but don't know what :( Or didn't I? |
| 14:05.56 | clock_ | OK I put one 6.x vote there |
| 14:06.10 | louipc | yeah I voted for 6 but I think it was actually 7 |
| 14:06.11 | clock_ | A psychoanalyst could maybe do a deep regression |
| 14:06.39 | ``Erik | now my question would be if that means the first time you personally used BRL-CAD, or the oldest version you've used... because my first exposure was 5, but I've used 4 recently (and have dorked with 0 series) |
| 14:07.15 | clock_ | If they asked me what was the first skateboard I rode I remember that exactly |
| 14:07.22 | louipc | 7.0.2 was 20050106 |
| 14:07.33 | ``Erik | hrm, 7 came out in '04 |
| 14:08.15 | ``Erik | 7.0.2 was the first open source release, jan 07, '05 |
| 14:08.30 | ``Erik | mebbe my first was 6 *shrug* |
| 14:10.04 | ``Erik | ah, my first commit was on a 6, in the pre-7 phase :) |
| 14:11.19 | louipc | neato |
| 14:12.04 | ``Erik | http://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/brlcad?view=rev&revision=22204 pheer |
| 14:12.38 | ``Erik | took away brlcad's cake O:-) |
| 14:19.53 | starseeker_ | brlcad: That's found in the nirt parser - they were doing it with a fixed buffer - I'm trying to introduce a vls to get rid of the fixed length |
| 14:20.32 | starseeker_ | not really sure why they were doing it, to be honest... |
| 14:20.43 | Axman6 | is any of the original BRL-CAD code around? |
| 14:20.53 | starseeker_ | define "original" |
| 14:21.04 | Axman6 | 1.0 |
| 14:21.15 | starseeker_ | understands the cvs history stretches into antiquity... |
| 14:21.15 | Axman6 | or... earlier |
| 14:22.11 | Axman6 | what was the original machine it was written for? |
| 14:22.20 | Axman6 | i forget BRL-CAD's history |
| 14:24.21 | brlcad | aww, d_rossberg left |
| 14:24.31 | brlcad | that was a hard one .. |
| 14:24.54 | brlcad | clock_: did you ever use it before it was open source? |
| 14:25.00 | brlcad | if not, it was a 7.* |
| 14:25.58 | clock_ | brlcad: no |
| 14:26.55 | brlcad | Axman6: all of brl-cad's code is in the revision history |
| 14:27.09 | brlcad | you can get to the "1.0" and earlier revisions through svn |
| 14:27.10 | Axman6 | heh, nice. |
| 14:27.24 | brlcad | not that they'll compile without overhauling, but the code is certainly there |
| 14:27.33 | starseeker_ | brlcad: What was that libtool trick you used to run gdb on an uninstalled binary? |
| 14:27.39 | Axman6 | how long have you been working on it? |
| 14:28.06 | brlcad | libtool --mode=execute path/to/wrapper --with whatever args etc |
| 14:28.15 | starseeker_ | thanks :-) |
| 14:28.23 | brlcad | er, gdb path/to/wrapper |
| 14:29.10 | brlcad | path/to/libtool --mode=execute gdb path/to/your/app_wrapper --with whatever args |
| 14:29.39 | brlcad | ~libtoolgdb is path/to/libtool --mode=execute gdb path/to/your/app_wrapper --with whatever args |
| 14:29.40 | ibot | brlcad: okay |
| 14:34.46 | brlcad | anyone else figure out d_rossberg's C++ snippet and/or interested in what's "wrong" with it? |
| 14:37.08 | ``Erik | brlcad, team lead wants to talk to you, wanna meet for lunch? |
| 14:37.50 | andrecastelo | hey everyone |
| 14:37.52 | ``Erik | (it'll compile without overhaul... if you do something like get a bsd4.3 image running on a vax 11/780) |
| 14:37.58 | andrecastelo | brlcad: i'm curious :B |
| 14:38.24 | ``Erik | or, 43bsd rather O.o :) |
| 14:38.30 | PrezKennedy | brlcad, whats wrong with it? even im curious |
| 14:38.50 | ``Erik | (and something about a vcr remote?) |
| 14:39.11 | clock_ | brlcad: is it easy to make animated figure in brl-cad using those blobs or how its called 2 spheres with a cone? |
| 14:39.49 | clock_ | I "just" write a C program that generateas the scene for every frame don't I? |
| 14:42.48 | brlcad | ``Erik: I'm coming in at some point |
| 14:43.27 | ``Erik | yeah, he just wants to make sure he gets to talk to you sometime today, he said lunch would work, and I like to eat O.o :D |
| 14:44.09 | brlcad | hm, that would save me a trip |
| 14:44.37 | brlcad | PrezKennedy: if you try to instantiate his CWorker class, the error message becomes a lot more clear |
| 14:45.02 | ``Erik | templates? clear? what? :D |
| 14:45.23 | brlcad | instead of just a syntax error, you see that the compiler has a choice in how to interpret AListIterator |
| 14:45.44 | brlcad | one as a value, other as a type .. it defaults to value given it's a nested class (which is wrong) |
| 14:45.53 | brlcad | so you have to tell it that you meant a type |
| 14:46.06 | brlcad | then it all works just fine |
| 14:47.47 | brlcad | clock_: depends on your definition of what consitutes easy, but I'd say 'no' for the average joe but maybe not too bad for you |
| 14:48.27 | brlcad | presumably your talking about either metaballs or the particle primitive |
| 14:53.20 | starseeker_ | 's head spins a bit - Ch is declared to be an int, but it also holds the character of interest during the parsing?? |
| 14:53.59 | brlcad | sure |
| 14:54.18 | brlcad | characters are just integer valus 0->127 for non-unicode lower ascii text |
| 14:54.56 | starseeker_ | OK, so what will bu_vls_strcat do when I feed it something like that? |
| 14:55.09 | starseeker_ | it's typed as an int, not a char |
| 14:56.13 | clock_ | brlcad: hmm which one is metaballs and which particle primitive? |
| 14:58.35 | starseeker_ | stares at it some more and notices the core interact loop is also using the 256 assumption right in the for loop... arrgh |
| 14:58.43 | starseeker_ | time to step back and rethink |
| 15:01.40 | clock_ | The new website is easy with textmode links in regard with easy access to download. |
| 15:02.06 | clock_ | 3 obvious clicks. Great. |
| 15:03.53 | brlcad | has a whole load of information to load that makes just about everything accessible within 3 clicks or less |
| 15:05.17 | homovulgaris | when will we have doxygen at brlcad.org :) |
| 15:05.18 | louipc | the weak point there is the sourceforge site :P |
| 15:05.43 | clock_ | louipc: usually I get a "download should start if doesn't click [here]" |
| 15:05.51 | clock_ | and I click [here] and it's a cyclic link to the same page |
| 15:05.58 | clock_ | But not in case of the BRL-CAD sourceforge. |
| 15:05.59 | homovulgaris | sourceforge has too many ads :( or too big ones at least |
| 15:06.17 | clock_ | homovulgaris: a smart patch into /etc/hosts can make most of them nonfunctional :) |
| 15:06.38 | clock_ | Make the ad websites resolve to 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1 or something like that |
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| 15:06.48 | louipc | I mean I have to scroll a full page of hyperlinks before I get to the relevant download link on the sf.net site |
| 15:07.16 | homovulgaris | :) |
| 15:07.18 | clock_ | louipc: what about making a proxy on brlcad.org that would mirror sourceforge except that it would rip out all the ads? |
| 15:07.35 | clock_ | like forward requests so that they couldn't complain about (c) violation |
| 15:07.49 | louipc | the ads don't bug me |
| 15:07.55 | clock_ | I want sourceforge in flash |
| 15:07.58 | louipc | because I don't see them :D |
| 15:08.03 | louipc | kills clock_ |
| 15:08.07 | clock_ | louipc: are you blind? |
| 15:08.18 | louipc | no I blocked them |
| 15:08.20 | starseeker_ | considers bumping 256 to 512 until he figures out the right way... |
| 15:08.35 | homovulgaris | flash :O why :) i am on debian amd64 .. i have to chroot to run flash |
| 15:08.43 | louipc | and I don't see them in my text browser |
| 15:08.50 | clock_ | I deleted flash because 9.0.124.0 has a remote execution |
| 15:09.03 | clock_ | and there is only a limited functionality beta which is not on the official download site |
| 15:09.20 | PrezKennedy | text browser??? thats crazy talk |
| 15:09.36 | clock_ | RM(1) rm - apply security patches |
| 15:09.40 | louipc | it's cool talk |
| 15:09.57 | homovulgaris | I like lynx.. but not very realistic in todays world i guess :P |
| 15:10.34 | PrezKennedy | its crazy talk! |
| 15:10.37 | clock_ | DESCRIPTION This manual page documents the GNU version of rm. rm removes each specified security hole. |
| 15:10.52 | PrezKennedy | like listening to a high quality orchestra on a pc speaker |
| 15:12.15 | louipc | more like earmuffs in a construction site to me |
| 15:13.09 | clock_ | louipc: :) |
| 15:13.21 | louipc | css, javascript, images = noise |
| 15:13.31 | clock_ | Well - we wrote a browser that supports both text and graphics mode. So everyone can select what he likes, just with a -g switch. |
| 15:13.37 | brlcad | homovulgaris: hopefully soon -- the old doxygen docs are still up though -- http://brlcad.sourceforge.net/doxygen/ |
| 15:14.19 | clock_ | ./configure --prefix=/usr a bad idea? |
| 15:14.40 | brlcad | yep |
| 15:14.41 | louipc | possibly |
| 15:14.42 | brlcad | usually |
| 15:14.43 | clock_ | I hate how stripes run around my screen when I type ./configure |
| 15:14.56 | clock_ | and LCDs are supposed to have better picture than CRTs |
| 15:15.06 | clock_ | I would tune the LCD TV if it had a tuning knob. |
| 15:15.42 | clock_ | On the other hand, it tells me when I should switch terminals and type "make"! |
| 15:16.01 | homovulgaris | brlcad: ok :) doxygen is pretty helpful in explaining code |
| 15:16.17 | clock_ | We tried to use it but it somehow misbehaved |
| 15:16.25 | clock_ | some functions were completely missing the clickable links |
| 15:16.56 | clock_ | The call graphs are nice to tell you that everything calls everything else anyway ;-) |
| 15:17.08 | louipc | heheh |
| 15:17.50 | brlcad | it would be more useful for brl-cad if it was comprehensive and properly grouped |
| 15:18.04 | brlcad | right now i think there's about 70% coverage or so (total guesstimate) |
| 15:18.26 | brlcad | with basic grouping |
| 15:18.28 | clock_ | total guesstimate, that sounds so scientific! |
| 15:19.04 | brlcad | it could really use some attention and love to beef it up, particulaly good task for someone looking to learn/explore the code base |
| 15:19.26 | clock_ | brlcad: to explore Doxygen bugs? :) |
| 15:20.58 | homovulgaris | :) i'll try |
| 15:21.24 | homovulgaris | presently the librt pages crashes everytime when i open it in my epiphany-browser |
| 15:21.29 | homovulgaris | i mean too big i guess |
| 15:21.45 | homovulgaris | too many big call graphs probably |
| 15:22.13 | homovulgaris | sorry.. librt main page .. not pages :) |
| 15:22.38 | clock_ | homovulgaris: epiphany crashes? |
| 15:23.45 | homovulgaris | not epiphany in particular the whole computer sort of hangs.. i have to kill epiphany |
| 15:25.03 | clock_ | Eats up all the resources? |
| 15:25.51 | homovulgaris | grouping would involve basically editing misc/doxygen_structure and addtogroup in the various files in source code right |
| 15:32.10 | homovulgaris | libbn and libbu pages seem pretty ok.. rt is pretty vast :) |
| 15:32.46 | homovulgaris | call graphs are ofcourse pretty complicated in the case of all functions |
| 15:33.20 | homovulgaris | brlcad: when can i have commit access :) ( please :) ) |
| 15:33.47 | clock_ | "Elapsed compilation time: 22 hours, 29 minutes, 46 seconds" |
| 15:34.14 | clock_ | I started to compile at 18.14 |
| 15:34.17 | clock_ | ended at 18.33 |
| 15:34.26 | clock_ | and 22 hours 29 minutes elapsed in between |
| 15:34.31 | homovulgaris | i was thinking of adding a new directory called libpc in src directory which would contain all the code for parametrics and constraints .. ok libpg is now libpc :) |
| 15:34.34 | clock_ | Does BRL-CAD come with an integrated time machine? |
| 15:34.53 | homovulgaris | o o |
| 15:35.40 | homovulgaris | do i have to put all my header files in include directory |
| 15:36.01 | brlcad | homovulgaris: yeah, that's a pretty huge page .. |
| 15:36.29 | brlcad | because it's a pretty huge library .. :) |
| 15:36.54 | brlcad | but yeah, basically doxygen_structure and addtogroups |
| 15:37.04 | clock_ | brlcad: any explanation for the time travel? |
| 15:37.17 | clock_ | brlcad: my PC didn't travel at relativistic speeds during the compilation |
| 15:37.31 | homovulgaris | and yeah about STL .. :) i can use it right ? |
| 15:37.35 | brlcad | clock_: it'll do funky things crossing midnight |
| 15:37.37 | pacman87 | clock_: i think it starts the time from either autogen or configure, not necessarily the start of make |
| 15:38.00 | brlcad | homovulgaris: that depends on a lot of things .. and where it's exposed |
| 15:38.04 | homovulgaris | i think it is configure |
| 15:38.20 | brlcad | exposing stl on public interface functions can be hugely problematic on some systems (like windows) |
| 15:38.21 | clock_ | brlcad: no crossing midnight here |
| 15:38.32 | clock_ | pacman87: starting from autogen would explain |
| 15:38.39 | clock_ | starting from configure wouldn't |
| 15:38.49 | pacman87 | Elapsed installation time: 29 minutes, 38 seconds |
| 15:38.49 | pacman87 | Elapsed time since configuration: 31 minutes, 27 seconds |
| 15:38.57 | brlcad | clock_: then feel free to debug it.. ;) sh/elapsed.sh does the deed |
| 15:39.56 | brlcad | configure writes out a timestamp for the elapsed configuration time, compilation stamp is in include/conf |
| 15:40.15 | clock_ | I think the elpased config time was OK |
| 15:40.15 | brlcad | logic is in the top-level Makefile.am |
| 15:42.04 | homovulgaris | hmm.. well stl wont be exposed as such . I mean using it for internal representation |
| 15:42.48 | brlcad | you can do whatever you want for internal representation in libpg, but not in the C libs |
| 15:42.59 | brlcad | s/whatever/something within reason/ :) |
| 15:43.09 | brlcad | has to run out for a bit |
| 15:43.27 | homovulgaris | :) k |
| 15:43.43 | clock_ | the png-pix is a useful tool, beyond the scope of BRL-CAD |
| 15:44.12 | clock_ | clock@duke:~$ /usr/brlcad/bin/png-pix |
| 15:44.12 | clock_ | Usage: /usr/brlcad/bin/png-pix [-v] [png_input_file] > pix_output_file |
| 15:44.12 | clock_ | Are you intending to type in a PNG format file?? |
| 15:44.12 | clock_ | Saving stack trace to unknown-4077-bomb.log |
| 15:44.15 | clock_ | WARNING: Unable to obtain a call stack backtrace |
| 15:44.38 | clock_ | If it understands the user wants a synopsis, why does it ask for a PNG being typed in, and then bombs on top of it? |
| 15:44.41 | Maloeran | agrees, though he wishes images would not be flipped upside-down |
| 15:45.23 | clock_ | Maloeran: you can flip the png with imagemagick ;-) |
| 15:45.44 | Maloeran | :) Sure |
| 15:45.53 | clock_ | although imagemagick is slow |
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| 16:29.32 | starseeker | whoops |
| 16:36.09 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31240 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/wdb_obj.c: Fixed a cast in the parameter list of a call to ged_get_obj_bounds(). If'ed out an unused variable in wdb_hide_cmd(). |
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| 19:51.36 | pacman87 | aww, no sqrt(3)/2 in vmath.h :( |
| 20:39.29 | brlcad | pacman87: actually that's somewhat curious |
| 20:40.04 | brlcad | some systems do have an M_SQRT3, but I can't find a definitive answer on whether that was recently added, is posix, etc |
| 20:40.29 | brlcad | go ahead and add an M_SQRT3 |
| 20:40.47 | pacman87 | i realized i dont actually need it |
| 20:40.53 | brlcad | you'll probably need to conditionalize all of them though instead of basing them all being set dependent upon M_PI |
| 20:41.42 | pacman87 | sqrt(3) is for cos(30) |
| 20:41.51 | brlcad | clock_: what version of brl-cad was that? I don't get that usage |
| 20:42.04 | pacman87 | and i actually wanted cos(22.5) |
| 20:43.34 | brlcad | Maloeran: they're not upside-down .. it's just using "first quadrant" image coordinates |
| 20:45.27 | brlcad | sure, feed that to a tool that expects fourth-quadrant coordinates and it'll be flipped, but then the user is at fault to assume it's a fourth quadrant data .. |
| 20:49.23 | homovulgaris | starseeker: the bunny sure looks funny :) |
| 20:50.41 | brlcad | homovulgaris: I've reviewed your patches, a few comments for you this weekend |
| 20:51.05 | homovulgaris | ok |
| 20:51.30 | brlcad | as for commit, I'm waiting for john to give you a thumbs up -- as soon as he's comfortable you're not going to go hog wild nuts, he'll let me know ;) |
| 20:51.54 | brlcad | and he knows this, you don't need to ping him |
| 20:51.58 | homovulgaris | :) oh ok |
| 20:52.09 | brlcad | other than keeping him apprised of your status (e.g. daily update? :) |
| 20:52.21 | brlcad | s/daily/blog/ |
| 20:52.33 | homovulgaris | ok.. :) |
| 20:52.58 | homovulgaris | i'd do both i guess :) |
| 20:53.01 | brlcad | gets rss feeds of the updates (as do some of the other mentors) so it will get noticed :) |
| 20:53.57 | pacman87 | homovulgaris: have you considered adding a link to your blog from http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2008 |
| 20:54.06 | starseeker | breaths deeply and tries to recover from mandatory training... |
| 20:54.59 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31241 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Update version to 7.12.5 |
| 20:55.47 | homovulgaris | I guess i will have to start one for libpg :) is there a way to get rss feeds for a particular tag or something in wordpress blogspot etc. ? |
| 21:05.34 | brlcad | homovulgaris: any of the major blogging systems have rss feeds, your user: page on the wiki works fine too |
| 21:07.06 | brlcad | example: http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Pacman87 |
| 21:07.17 | pacman87 | :) |
| 21:08.23 | brlcad | tis a good example :) |
| 21:08.24 | pacman87 | speaking of, does anyone know how to make a sidebar on a wiki page? |
| 21:08.38 | brlcad | what do you mean? |
| 21:08.56 | homovulgaris | was seeing pacman's page a few minutes back :) |
| 21:08.56 | pacman87 | like a box on the top-right side of the pages |
| 21:09.00 | pacman87 | page* |
| 21:09.12 | pacman87 | that stays at the top of the page when i add new entries |
| 21:09.48 | brlcad | oh, you mean like the info boxes on wikipedia? |
| 21:09.52 | pacman87 | yeah |
| 21:09.53 | brlcad | those are templates |
| 21:10.07 | pacman87 | so will they work with the brlcad wiki? |
| 21:10.10 | brlcad | you have to create/import a template that does what you want |
| 21:10.26 | brlcad | they're generally portable if you find one that does what you want |
| 21:10.46 | brlcad | but they don't come for free, you have to create it or import one from another wiki |
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| 21:11.30 | pacman87 | something like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox |
| 21:12.52 | brlcad | yep! |
| 21:13.09 | brlcad | you should be able to export that from wikipedia and import it |
| 21:13.20 | brlcad | (special page, export) |
| 21:14.09 | brlcad | very likely has other components that go with it usually (images, docs, etc) that it links to or uses |
| 21:19.02 | pacman87 | does this look right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/Template:Infobox |
| 21:20.13 | pacman87 | Permission error from BRL-CAD: The action you have requested is limited to users in the group Sysops. |
| 21:30.04 | brlcad | when do you get that? |
| 21:30.48 | pacman87 | http://brlcad.org/wiki/Special:Import |
| 21:30.49 | brlcad | yeah, that looks right .. the export should be an xml file, you'll import that on the cad wiki |
| 21:35.27 | brlcad | what about now? |
| 21:36.46 | pacman87 | the brlcad import page is still an error |
| 21:37.26 | brlcad | and now? :) |
| 21:39.23 | pacman87 | there we go, thanks |
| 22:00.57 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31242 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/nsis/brlcad.nsi: calculate the version dynamically. rather untested, but it should be pretty close from what the nsis scripting reference describes. one less place to update the version when it changes... |
| 22:02.50 | pacman87 | i think i did something wrong with the template import |
| 22:02.56 | pacman87 | http://brlcad.org/wiki/Template:Infobox |
| 22:03.19 | brlcad | I would agree |
| 22:03.54 | brlcad | or |
| 22:04.26 | brlcad | it could be incompatibilities between versions of mediawiki .. wikipedia don't stay closely in sync with mediawiki |
| 22:04.43 | brlcad | see if mediawiki has that template |
| 22:07.32 | brlcad | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Info_templates |
| 22:07.48 | pacman87 | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates |
| 22:16.18 | pacman87 | are there any templates already in use by brlcad's wiki? |
| 22:20.43 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31243 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/nsis/brlcad.nsi: oops, fix missing goto logic .. there is undoubtedly a better way to do this, but good enough |
| 22:23.08 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/wiki/Special:Mostlinkedtemplates |
| 22:25.48 | brlcad | basically you just want a table on the right with some named fields |
| 22:26.05 | brlcad | the admin tip template might help |
| 22:28.31 | pacman87 | i dont' think it likes wikipedia's "#if" |
| 22:35.56 | brlcad | that might be some functionality that needs to be enabled, or another plugin |
| 22:36.36 | brlcad | if you find it, lemme know and I can install it, or set you up to do it |
| 22:37.10 | brlcad | there's like 300 mediawiki plugins, we're only using like 8 |
| 22:37.35 | brlcad | had to install a plugin just yesterday so I could actually have the ability to reset a user's password (!) |
| 22:38.12 | brlcad | their "default feature set" truly is minimal.. |
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