IRC log for #brlcad on 20080626

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00:49.12 Byron If I added a region in a comb can I remove it later?
00:49.30 Byron and if so how?
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02:00.17 geocalc Can't find a usable tk.tcl in the following directories: /usr/brlcad/lib/tk8.5
02:01.01 geocalc but it is here
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02:59.12 yukonbob hello, cadheads
03:09.07 pacman87 hi yukonbob
03:13.42 yukonbob eats chocolate, listens to Frank Sinatra, and sips on his Aranciata
03:13.53 yukonbob mmmm...
03:14.55 yukonbob Fry Me to the Moon..
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03:27.20 Byron1 Is there a way t remove a region from a comp in mged
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04:05.48 starseeker wonders who replaced his brain with an overcooked meat loaf...
04:06.31 brlcad moans quietly in exhausted pain
04:08.19 starseeker concedes brlcad has more right to it than he does
04:09.07 brlcad nah
04:09.14 starseeker is at least current with his email...
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04:09.28 brlcad i just got back from the gym, half my body is throbbing in pain ..
04:09.38 brlcad the other half was already sore from tues and wed
04:09.45 starseeker training?
04:10.04 starseeker tries to remember which extreme sport is in season right now...
04:10.23 brlcad just trying to get back into my workout routine
04:12.34 starseeker heh - close enough
04:12.56 starseeker keeps having fits and starts on both gym and diet - grr
04:17.17 brlcad our team's perpetual lunch habits don't help :)
04:17.55 brlcad the last time I started getting ripped, went to gym instead of lunch for about 8 months .. man those were good times
04:18.44 brlcad if Byron comes back .. "d" command
04:19.11 brlcad pacman87: -C option to rt
04:19.22 brlcad (man rt, rt -C 255/0/0
04:22.56 starseeker will consider that - gym instead of lunch. Good idea.
04:23.18 starseeker (or could just lug that Betamax up and down the stairs a few more times)
04:24.14 brlcad have to leave *before* 11:20 though .. the temptation of yummy korean or mamie's pizza vs a gruelling hour in the gym is harsh on the mind and willpower
04:24.31 geocalc Can't find a usable tk.tcl in the following directories: /usr/brlcad/lib/tk8.5 but it is here brlcad
04:24.39 brlcad hello geocalc
04:24.48 geocalc hi
04:24.53 brlcad geocalc: you compiled yourself?
04:25.01 geocalc yes
04:25.11 brlcad what was your configure line?
04:25.59 brlcad (it's at the top of your config.log)
04:26.55 geocalc oh
04:27.06 geocalc */configure --prefix=/usr/brlcad --disable-static --enable-all
04:27.21 brlcad huh, that's curious indeed
04:27.39 brlcad what platform ?
04:27.57 geocalc linux 64
04:28.13 brlcad which distro?
04:28.34 geocalc Linux xyz 2.6.25.7-paldo1-x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 17 11:30:40 CEST 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
04:29.04 brlcad so no distro, hand-setup?
04:29.20 brlcad or just custom-compiled kernel
04:29.46 geocalc no it is a distro
04:32.28 brlcad and that would be?
04:32.42 brlcad suse? am I missing it in the uname there?
04:33.26 geocalc http://paldo.org/index-section-news.html
04:33.44 brlcad ah, paldo
04:34.31 brlcad so, maybe some of the fundamentals..
04:34.43 brlcad I hope TCL_LIBRARY and TK_LIBRARY are unset?
04:34.48 brlcad (env vars)
04:34.50 geocalc hmm
04:34.56 brlcad they shouldn't be
04:35.13 brlcad and if you ldd /usr/brlcad/bin/mged, what do you get
04:37.22 geocalc libitk.so.0 => /usr/brlcad/lib/libitk.so.0 (0x00007ffc2110a000)
04:37.22 geocalc libitcl.so.0 => /usr/brlcad/lib/libitcl.so.0 (0x00007ffc20eeb000)
04:37.22 geocalc libtclcad.so.19 => /usr/brlcad/lib/libtclcad.so.19 (0x00007ffc20ce5000)
04:38.55 brlcad does /usr/brlcad/bin/btclsh run?
04:39.18 brlcad also, did the compile and install both complete fully and successfull?
04:41.37 geocalc btclsh seems to work
04:42.27 geocalc compil and didn't quit and no erro
04:42.46 geocalc install*
04:43.40 brlcad pastebin the result of this: ls -la /usr/brlcad/lib/tk8.5
04:44.08 brlcad ~bzpastebin
04:44.08 ibot extra, extra, read all about it, bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel
04:44.31 geocalc i can't past my isp block
04:45.07 brlcad blocks http?
04:45.13 brlcad o.O
04:46.05 geocalc i'l try
04:46.07 brlcad also those ldd results cannot have been complete
04:46.15 brlcad there should have been about 20 libs
04:47.52 geocalc ldd /usr/brlcad/bin/mged | wc
04:47.52 geocalc <PROTECTED>
04:48.04 brlcad okay, a few more than 20 :)
04:48.08 brlcad another pastebin
04:53.22 geocalc brlcad=<< i can't past loading and loading as always it never end
04:53.45 brlcad que?
04:57.42 brlcad loading and loading of what? pastebin? mged?
04:59.32 geocalc pastebin
05:00.00 geocalc why -la ?
05:01.59 geocalc <PROTECTED>
05:01.59 geocalc bgerror.tcl button.tcl choosedir.tcl clrpick.tcl comdlg.tcl console.tcl demos dialog.tcl entry.tcl focus.tcl images listbox.tcl menu.tcl mkpsenc.tcl msgbox.tcl msgs obsolete.tcl optMenu.tcl palette.tcl panedwindow.tcl pkgIndex.tcl prolog.ps safetk.tcl scale.tcl scrlbar.tcl spinbox.tcl tclIndex tearoff.tcl text.tcl tkAppInit.c tkfbox.tcl tk.tcl ttk unsupported.tcl xmfbox.tcl
05:02.27 brlcad geocalc: to see permissions
05:03.09 geocalc rw-r--r--
05:04.13 brlcad ls -la /usr/brlcad/lib/libtk*
05:05.50 geocalc <PROTECTED>
05:05.51 geocalc -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1649048 jun 26 02:49 /usr/brlcad/lib/libtk8.5.so
05:05.51 geocalc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1649048 jun 26 02:49 /usr/brlcad/lib/libtk.so
05:05.51 geocalc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2942 jun 26 02:49 /usr/brlcad/lib/libtkstub8.5.a
05:05.51 geocalc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2942 jun 26 02:49 /usr/brlcad/lib/libtkstub.a
05:06.48 geocalc look ok
05:06.54 brlcad yeah
05:07.08 brlcad can you run mged -c ?
05:07.22 brlcad using 'nu' display device or X
05:08.58 geocalc X nu work
05:10.03 geocalc ogl too
05:11.32 geocalc strange
05:11.36 brlcad then in any of those, run "gui"
05:13.08 geocalc ogl
05:13.08 geocalc Starting an ogl display manager
05:13.08 geocalc mged> gui
05:13.08 geocalc invalid command name "dm_bestXType"
05:13.24 brlcad OOooh
05:13.32 brlcad you running off lastest svn sources?
05:13.47 brlcad a lot of the commands are moving around due to a restructuring
05:14.03 geocalc no
05:14.19 brlcad which version?
05:14.31 geocalc release last
05:15.00 geocalc 7.12.4
05:16.05 brlcad nm /usr/brlcad/lib/libdm.so |grep dm_best
05:17.15 geocalc GUI IN NU GIVE THE TCL ERROR
05:17.31 brlcad k
05:18.28 geocalc nm /usr/brlcad/lib/libdm.so |grep dm_best => no symbol
05:20.21 geocalc yo want a no strip build ?
05:22.19 geocalc the packages manager strip all but i can install byhands if you need brlcad
05:23.04 brlcad it'd be useful to verify that it's there or not
05:23.07 brlcad it should be
05:23.44 brlcad your build doensn't happen to set other CFLAGS or CPPFLAGS during make or some other build step?
05:24.33 geocalc i don't think
05:26.11 geocalc gone eat i'll rebuild after
05:27.09 brlcad k
05:27.21 brlcad wanders for a bit to poke at pipe performance
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06:17.36 geocalc nm /usr/local/lib/libdm.so |grep dm_best
06:17.36 geocalc 000000000002e7d0 T dm_bestXType
06:17.36 geocalc 000000000002eb24 T dm_bestXType_tcl
06:17.36 geocalc i saw some warnings about relinking *.la brlcad
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06:34.15 geocalc Linux xyz 2.6.25.8-paldo1-x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jun 22 14:51:58 CEST 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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07:55.34 geocalc [geocalc@xyz:~]$ mged -c
07:55.34 geocalc mged: error while loading shared libraries: libtermio.so.19: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
07:55.34 geocalc <PROTECTED>
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09:48.18 mafm hi
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10:37.54 mafm hi ``Erik
10:52.07 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31619 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/History.cxx: Fixing small glitch when navigating History (bad offset of index sometimes
11:01.25 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31620 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (Application.cxx Application.h main.cxx): Cleanup and doxygen documentation
11:15.33 mafm hmm
11:15.43 mafm bot missing my last commit?
11:15.59 mafm sign of the armageddon, I guess :)
11:28.52 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31621 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (Application.cxx History.cxx): Indentation/whitespace
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12:30.26 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31622 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (GuiWindowManager.cxx GuiWindowManager.h): Adding Quit button to the top bar
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12:35.01 Mouette when you will release 7.12.5?
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13:14.20 brlcad Mouette: probably not till next month (as 7.12.6)
13:22.48 mafm brlcad: Darwin is basically same as regular Xorg, right?
13:35.18 ``Erik "smells like karl rove's burnt asshairs" *shudder*
13:37.08 ``Erik sometimes the bot is a little laggy, mafm
13:37.15 ``Erik and darwin is the name for the macosX kernel
13:38.10 mafm kernel?
13:38.42 ``Erik jiggles his mini buddha gut and decides that lunch is far moar awesomer than gym
13:39.24 ``Erik what's the context you're seeing darwin in, mafm?
13:40.34 mafm basically I need to know whether the same options that I use for keyboard for Xorg are applicable to MacOS
13:40.39 brlcad mafm: if you're asking if Mac OS X uses Xorg, it has it but the gui you're working on shouldn't use it (at all) .. it should be going through the Carbon/Cocoa graphics layers
13:41.12 brlcad probably not, e.g. you shouldn't be using libXi
13:41.22 ``Erik yeah, BRL-CAD currently uses X11.app (a fork of X11R6 that sits ontop of quartz, I believe), but we want to get rid of thte X11.app dependancy on osX some day
13:42.19 mafm I see
13:42.23 ``Erik what does OGRE use for input and context/window attach? (wgl/win32)/(glx/Xlib) ?
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13:43.30 ``Erik (note that X11.app is NOT installed by default on osX, you have to install it off the developer disc or download it...)
13:44.41 ``Erik re-re-reads the Veach/Guibas MLT paper O.o
13:51.33 mafm ``Erik: a mix of everything :)
13:52.02 mafm furthermore, it's another library called OIS, forked project or something like that
13:56.54 brlcad mafm, it looks like OIS has both Mac-specific facilities as well as an SDL interface
13:57.21 brlcad either of those should work (preferably not the sdl interface if we can avoid it)
13:59.57 Mouette Mmm, when my brlcad-7.12.4 solaris x86 can annonce?
14:00.01 mafm yes, but I was wondering the parameters that I should pass
14:00.11 mafm if they were the same as for Xorg or not :)
14:01.50 brlcad Mouette: you're in a hurry? :) it's still being validated
14:02.26 brlcad mafm: depends if OIS abstracts that or not
14:02.49 brlcad ideally it should be entirely abstracted so at the app level you don't worry about that at all
14:02.59 brlcad otherwise, there's not really much point to OIS
14:03.03 mafm you instantiate the class with some "parameterlist", with system-dependent k-v pairs
14:03.19 brlcad hell, we have abstracted input for bzflag
14:03.38 brlcad that's not abstracted if the *app* has to provide system-dependent anything
14:03.42 mafm kind of, to disable/enable autorepeat, or mouse grabbing
14:03.56 Mouette can't you compile like my result then release your solaris x86 package?
14:04.23 mafm it's OGRE... *shrugs* :)
14:05.17 brlcad I don't recall there being system-specific input the last time I made an ogre app a couple years ago..
14:06.04 mafm well, you don't have to, but you can
14:06.06 brlcad Mouette: sure, it just takes time and effort to make a solaris package .. along with the dozen other platforms we actively support
14:06.29 mafm I hate having to switch back to my terminal and kill the app by hand
14:06.41 brlcad Mouette: more ideal is to find individual platform maintainers that prepare the releases for a given platform
14:06.55 mafm because the program is in infinite loop or crashed in gdb, and keeps all my input grabbed
14:07.03 brlcad thought I saw that you added a quit button? :)
14:07.05 mafm or when disables autorepeat for all X
14:07.07 ``Erik brlcad: your faq sheet has been substantially modified and is ready for you, she sent you an email and asked if you were in today
14:07.24 brlcad ``Erik: k
14:07.27 brlcad will be in a few
14:07.46 mafm well, sometimes it doesn't paint the buttons, so you just can't do anything but do Ctrl+Alt+F1 so the app doesn't get that input
14:09.30 Mouette Maybe i can be brlcad for the solaris x86 platform maintainer
14:10.11 brlcad Mouette: maybe .. :)
14:10.28 brlcad it still means though that as a new contributor, your package has to be reviewed
14:10.41 brlcad at least with some level of scrutiny to make sure it's "ok"
14:11.38 Mouette mmm
14:13.34 ``Erik of course, merely having someone building on slowaris x86 and providing patches if things don't "Just Work" would be tremendously appreciated :D
14:15.18 mafm do you know a simple way to check where's an infinite loop, different from cachegrind?
14:16.04 mafm valgrind-like if possible, not having to recompile with profiling options or things like that
14:16.57 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31623 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/History.h: Commenting out to avoid compiler warnings
14:18.11 brlcad I think oprofile has similar facilities
14:18.29 brlcad it's a performance profiler that also uses the cpu register timers
14:18.30 ``Erik um, compile with -O0 -ggdb, wait a while, break it and see where it is? and if you're not convinced based on program state/stack, put some printfs around it?
14:19.53 mafm ah, just statistical interruption? :D
14:20.03 mafm good one
14:20.13 ``Erik that'd be my quick&easy dirty hack approach, yeah :D *shrug*
14:21.05 brlcad then you can see that it's spending x% of time in a given body of code, and if it's an infinite loop, that'll be blatently obvious
14:22.25 ``Erik hrm, oprofile isn't in fbsd ports
14:22.33 mafm ``Erik: exactly what I was looking for... I tried it sometimes but don't remember
14:22.33 ``Erik ah, leenewx only
14:22.38 mafm didn't*
14:24.51 brlcad yeah, uses some kernel modules to get to the timers
14:25.05 brlcad was kinda like valgrind, but hasn't been ported yet
14:25.42 ``Erik should spend some time poking at the dtrace port in fbsd base
14:27.10 ``Erik (only -current right now, I think... since april)
14:30.42 mafm it seems that doesn't like to have empty windows or things like that :S
14:31.20 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31624 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/Application.cxx: Disabling Keyboard and Mouse grabbing at least for Xorg, so it doesn't cause problems with application crashes, infinite loops and the like
14:35.37 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31625 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (4 files): Flag to mark whether the window should be present in Taskbar or not (i.e. CommandOverlay should not)
14:59.44 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31626 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/GuiCommandOverlay.cxx: Setting CommandOverlay to Modal (dialog, cannot interact with the rest of the interface while opened), initially hidden, hidden every time Return is pressed.
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15:29.39 clock_ do you know big bucks bunny?
15:31.29 clock_ the open source blender film?
15:39.54 mafm nup
15:40.03 mafm I saw elephant's dream though
15:41.09 clock_ they have a list of individual pngs
15:41.22 clock_ do you have a unix on the backbone?
15:41.30 clock_ I would like to encode it for them with Luminaplex
15:41.40 clock_ Standard Y'CbCr is incredibly shitty in regarding to colour detail
15:42.30 clock_ then it looks like cinema and not like a video :)
15:44.18 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31627 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (4 files):
15:44.18 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: Adding event handlers so the prompt is focused whenever the windows becomes
15:44.18 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: focused; showing close button for CommandOverlay but acting as 'hide'; and
15:44.18 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: fixing a bug where entries in the console text panel were added twice.
15:45.15 mafm yes, I have unix -- but I don't understand why is that related with bucks bunny :)
15:45.30 clock_ not bucks bunny big bucks bunny
15:45.35 clock_ the open source movie
15:45.56 mafm yes
15:46.02 mafm so what's the relation?
15:46.10 clock_ between what and what?
15:47.26 mafm big bucks bunny and my unix backbone that you were asking for
15:47.33 mafm (for/about)
15:47.48 clock_ I want to download the pngs automated unpack them run through luminaplex and Theora encoder
15:47.53 clock_ and then send them the resulting video
15:47.58 clock_ because standard encoded videos are shit
15:48.11 clock_ invented the luminaplex algorithm
15:49.26 mafm and do you want to render it in my computer? :D
15:49.37 clock_ I didn't say anything about rendering
15:49.40 clock_ the film is already rendered
15:51.17 mafm adding colour or whatever
15:51.39 mafm out for a coffee
16:24.58 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31628 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (GuiWindowManager.cxx GuiWindowManager.h): Adding toggle buttons for CommandOverlay and Console visibility, and setting it to focused window when visible.
16:26.58 mafm brlcad: you don't want typical application menus, do you?
17:25.12 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31629 10/brlcad/trunk/ (32 files in 21 dirs):
17:25.12 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: Added bu_structparse_get_terse_form() to libbu/parse.c. Added
17:25.12 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: wdb_import_from_path to librt/wdb.c. Modified the adjust, get and form members
17:25.12 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: of struct rt_functab (i.e. signature). Added four new commands to libged:
17:25.12 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: adjust, form, get and put.
17:35.34 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31630 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: Added extern to the declaration of brlcad_interp.
17:43.03 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31631 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (4 files): Unimportant renamings, for consistency between classes
18:19.29 mafm cya folks
18:19.41 pacman87 bye
18:25.24 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31632 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/tcl.c: Modified rt_comb_adjust to handle no and yes (i.e. the same way that rt_comb_tcladjust previously did when using Tcl_GetBoolean.
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19:48.17 brlcad no "typical" menus, bleh
19:49.12 pacman87 revolve with straight line sketches is looking promising
19:51.32 brlcad how's that work?
19:51.53 pacman87 i just use a sketch with straigh lines
19:51.55 brlcad you not requiring that the scetch for a closed area with a given vector?
19:52.00 brlcad ahhhh
19:52.03 brlcad multiple lines
19:52.06 brlcad got it
19:52.19 pacman87 i'm not doing any sketch testing yet
19:52.20 brlcad I was thinking a sketch with a single line segment :)
19:52.43 pacman87 but if i rt it alone, the hit distances are off
19:52.50 pacman87 if i add another shape to the rt, it works
19:52.51 brlcad revolving that would imply a conic sheet of course, but not closed/solid
19:53.09 brlcad sounds like the bounding box calc is wrong
19:53.18 brlcad or maybe bounding sphere is wrong
19:53.30 pacman87 you mean too small?
19:53.43 pacman87 right now i'm cheating, set at 100 ;)
19:53.58 pacman87 and my sketch is inside that
20:00.25 pacman87 https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/rev_rt01.png vs https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/rev_rt02.png
20:01.11 brlcad neat :)
20:13.29 pacman87 https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/rev_rt02.png
20:13.49 pacman87 two rev's and a hyp between ;)
20:18.22 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03pacman87 * r31633 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/revolve/revolve.c: more work on shot() and norm() for sketches with only line segments
20:52.31 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31634 10/brlcad/trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Added binary, bot_decimate and bot_face_sort to libged. These were split out of wdb_obj.c and modified to NOT require Tcl. Added references to these commands in ged_obj.c
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22:07.40 pacman87 this is very perplexing
22:35.11 CIA-22 BRL-CAD: 03pacman87 * r31635 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/revolve/revolve.c: more work on revolve's norm()
22:36.24 brlcad perplexing and flexing?
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22:40.14 pacman87 https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/rev_rt06.png
22:40.19 pacman87 https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/rev_rt05.png
22:41.12 brlcad heh
22:42.11 pacman87 only difference is the sphere
22:42.22 pacman87 the revs didnt change at all
22:42.38 pacman87 same view, same everything
22:43.56 pacman87 03 is the prettiest
22:46.51 brlcad that is pretty odd .. hmm
22:47.52 brlcad introducing the sphere changes the space partitioning, so you're going to have ray's being evaluated from different positions on the bounding view
22:49.03 brlcad somehow those (different) rays are getting transformed differently during prep or shot (probably the latter)
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