IRC log for #brlcad on 20080915

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02:19.43 mafm code submitted!
02:19.46 mafm night
03:52.22 starseeker_ pokes around for standards on technical drawing layouts...
03:52.58 Ralith wonders what starseeker_ is working on
03:53.51 starseeker_ nothing, as yet
03:54.07 starseeker_ Ah, here we go... http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=46022
03:54.14 Ralith wonders what starseeker_ is thinking about
03:54.53 starseeker_ If there's any standard for blueprint layouts
03:55.18 starseeker_ likes pretty pictures
03:55.24 Ralith agrees
03:55.47 starseeker_ That's one boatload of documentation on the subject though :-(
03:56.12 Ralith there's a lot of situations to cover
03:57.00 starseeker_ nods
03:57.23 starseeker_ In reality I need to keep working on find/search, so no pretty pictures for a while
03:58.44 Ralith it would be pretty cool for brl-cad to be able to produce drawings
03:59.05 starseeker_ many have thought so, no one has put forth the effort ;-)
03:59.49 Ralith probably something to do with how there's a lot of situations to cover.
04:00.06 starseeker_ partially that, partially a matter of other priorities
04:00.26 Ralith well, yeah
04:00.42 Ralith but the easier it is, the more likely some random person shows up to do it for SoC, or something
04:00.51 starseeker_ and partially how the heck to get ahold of all the friggin docs...
04:00.58 starseeker_ true
04:01.58 Ralith yeah, having to actually buy the docs doesn't help, I imagine
04:02.16 starseeker_ you imagine correctly
04:14.40 yukonbob evening, cadheads
04:33.38 louipc starseeker_: what kind of standards are you looking for?
04:33.58 starseeker_ layout, required information, formatting, etc.
04:34.48 louipc like third-angle projection vs first-angle projection, ...
04:36.28 louipc I wouldn't say you need iso specs to start off though hehe
04:37.52 louipc lots of info on the net and/or library about drafting 'standards'
04:45.46 Ralith louipc: when it comes to writing a software implementation for a CAD suite, I think it's pretty important to strictly follow the formal standards.
04:47.47 louipc well it should be flexible
04:48.05 Ralith ?
04:48.14 Ralith what does that mean
04:48.24 louipc there's more than one standard
04:50.13 Ralith I think the ISO standards are probably appropriate.
04:52.27 louipc ANSI ;)
04:53.32 Ralith I > A
04:53.52 louipc are you european or something? :P
04:54.34 dtidrow M$ proved that standards can be bought
04:54.41 louipc haha
04:54.56 louipc software is best when it's flexible anyways
04:55.16 dtidrow see the ooxml debacle
04:59.30 Ralith dtidrow: but nobody has a reason to buy these ones :P
08:37.43 b0ef really sad iso has lost all integrity
08:38.04 b0ef and credibility
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12:31.35 mafm hello
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15:03.25 starseeker brlcad: OK, all of your test cases seem to work, although I'm a little fuzzy on the last one - I'll have to check what the "_" is supposed to do
15:07.00 starseeker Also, something like search -name [0-9][a-z] without the "*" on the end fails unless I set glob_compat_mode to 0 - it seems like tcl is expanding that for some reason. Even then, with glob_compat_mode at 0 I have to escape the square brackets. Ugh.
15:07.54 starseeker is more motivated than ever to keep TCL out of command pre-processing unless the command asks for it
15:13.58 starseeker Hmm, looks like search . -name [[:upper:]][[:digit:]]* doesn't work...
15:14.47 starseeker wonders if it should
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16:51.50 starseeker hrm. Does on Mac's find
16:52.06 starseeker grumbles and wanders back into the fnmatch source code...
16:58.03 starseeker wait, it does work
16:58.07 starseeker blinks
16:58.57 starseeker friggin tcl shell...
17:10.19 mafm hi starseeker
17:10.20 mafm :)
17:10.26 mafm this channel is pretty quiet lately
17:11.43 starseeker mafm: Howdy :-)
17:11.48 starseeker yes, quiet indeed
17:20.22 mafm I need more holidays, but not bad :)
18:17.19 starseeker Yay, maxdepth and mindepth work :-)
18:49.59 starseeker kicks CIA
19:37.12 starseeker empty works
19:39.04 starseeker brlcad: Do you want an "ls" option for BRL-CAD's search or is that better handled with the -exec option?
19:56.51 starseeker and now iname works :-)
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22:46.35 starseeker And a path command
22:46.38 starseeker er path option
22:46.54 starseeker brlcad: regarding prune, can't that be handled by a combination of -not and -path?
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22:59.51 brlcad catches up
23:00.30 brlcad starseeker: [] are special to tcl, they are like backticks
23:01.38 brlcad drat, mafm left
23:02.09 brlcad starseeker: ls is definitely better handled via exec
23:02.25 brlcad and hm, -path seems out of place
23:03.11 brlcad i mean i see the point, but especially for -not -path, that's not really different than -not -name
23:04.19 brlcad I use that all the time to prune subtrees on a find search since it won't recurse into something that matches

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