IRC log for #brlcad on 20081010

00:03.26 ``Erik hm
00:03.41 ``Erik GHAH! NOOOOOOOO
00:04.00 ``Erik my brain said "type cvs" and my screen said "$ svn" :~(
00:38.12 claymore Well, thats better than the screen saying "$ svn" and you brain saying "Hommmmmmer." ;)
00:38.23 ``Erik doooonnuuutttsssss
00:38.59 ``Erik who's the catcher for fng right now? I got in fate, sent my fleet to their death, and am waiting on acceptance back into fng :/
00:39.37 ``Erik ten dizzy's and 5 pshield make me an ugly target, but I'd still prefer having a fag tag to further dissuade :/
00:41.21 ``Erik <-- did some self assessment, cannot figure out how to make a profit on his bases, is happy :)
00:41.37 ``Erik even with tr rapage
01:04.51 *** join/#brlcad Axman6 (n=Axman6@pdpc/supporter/student/Axman6)
01:33.12 starseeker gets a subset of tkhtml3 much closer to "as is" in their cvs tree building just tkhtml3, but still needs to figure out such minor items as hooking the configure.in file into BRL-CAD's build system and supplying the correct flags to tell it to use the local tcl/tk instead of the system tcl/tk
01:45.12 starseeker 's first guess is that a "configure tkhtml3" step is needed in configure.ac and the TCL_PATH and TK_PATH variables will be involved...
01:45.41 ``Erik yes, yes. *shakes fist at needing to re-run autogen.sh for this tkhtml shit)
01:45.54 starseeker sorry
01:46.34 starseeker invites ``Erik to do it using better way
01:46.38 starseeker please...
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03:31.55 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32898 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tkhtml3/: Remove customized tkhtml3
03:37.12 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32899 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tkhtml3/ (53 files in 4 dirs): Re-add tkhtml3 with setup closer to original.
03:39.37 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32900 10/brlcad/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
03:39.37 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: Last steps of the reworking of tkhtml3's inclusion in src/other - keep things
03:39.38 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: much closer to the existing tkhtml3 build logic, use their configure.in and
03:39.38 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: Makefile.in, and install 'correctly' - package require Tkhtml 3.0 now works.
03:39.40 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: Adjusted mged dialog implementations accordingly.
03:39.49 starseeker YES
03:44.23 starseeker heh, weird - I couldn't draw up the phone conversion in mged, but after several hours of raytracing (cpu = 10214.8 sec, elapsed - 11896.9 sec) rt produced this image: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/phone.png
03:48.47 starseeker still needs to test for tkhtml3 in a system tcl/tk and build if not found, but tomorrow for that
03:49.53 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32901 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tkhtml3/Makefile.in: Ooops - add Makefile.in
03:56.02 starseeker tests the build one more time...
03:57.02 starseeker there we go
03:57.06 starseeker swwwwweeeeeet
03:57.30 starseeker next up, a (slightly) better help browser
04:05.48 Axman6 \o/
05:10.31 starseeker works on linux - good
05:10.34 starseeker sleeps
05:10.39 brlcad :)
05:12.56 brlcad image looks like that because it's got trimming curves on the nurbs surface
05:13.05 brlcad old nurbs don't support trimmings
05:13.15 brlcad was never fully implemented
05:14.16 brlcad starseeker: as for hooking in, look at AC_CONFIG_SUBDIRS
05:14.22 brlcad we do that already
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11:38.09 brlcad points at his highlights
11:38.19 brlcad wanders walkabout
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14:40.46 ``Erik O.o
14:45.24 claymore o.O
14:47.39 starseeker regains consciousness (or as close as he ever gets)
14:51.28 brlcad :)
14:53.52 claymore brlcad: He's back! Coming in today?
14:56.50 starseeker is tempted by the Army Technical Manual on ebay but can't help thinking it's a bit pricy...
14:57.04 starseeker http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220289588108
14:57.06 comics starseeker: see www.ansysed.narod.ru/3ptarb.html - and check e-mail - and answer to me.
15:00.46 starseeker comics: hang on, my machine doesn't seem to have the right fonts for this...
15:01.23 comics starseeker: no! unicode utf-8
15:01.34 comics everyone has it
15:02.27 starseeker apparently not
15:08.13 brlcad comics: I think that page is lacking the proper encoding markers, because it's showing up as garbage
15:09.26 comics well, i see it thru linux - juse choose UTF-8 in browser.
15:09.47 brlcad you shouldn't have to choose it -- that's why it works for you
15:10.06 brlcad the problem isn't the page -- if I save it to file and open it, it'll render correctly
15:10.21 brlcad which means the web server is sending the wrong encoding
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15:14.46 brlcad howdy theBishop
15:14.57 theBishop :)
15:16.08 starseeker comics: OK, I see email - I will create a docbook example and send it back to you
15:38.50 ``Erik I'm feeling less and less happy about the docbook stuff
15:39.18 ``Erik it requires fop, which requires java, ... which is not... common in my little quirkosphere
15:39.29 starseeker It only requires fop for pdf
15:39.49 ``Erik so man pages still come up on a bare nekkid unix machine?
15:39.56 starseeker absolutely
15:40.02 ``Erik okie, good
15:40.27 ``Erik "bare naked" is not one of those linux monstrosities, btw... :D
15:45.00 starseeker As long as you've got a decent man command
15:47.40 comics starseeker: what browser do you have?
15:47.55 comics "Automatic encoding"?
16:05.57 *** part/#brlcad comics (n=asus@217.118.79.42)
16:12.51 starseeker firefox
16:13.00 starseeker I get same as brlcad - OK if I save the file.
16:13.03 starseeker it's the web server
16:13.23 starseeker comics: I sent you an example
16:14.06 starseeker needs to get going
16:14.17 starseeker kicks CIA-4
16:14.18 CIA-4 ow
16:14.23 starseeker hmm
17:00.31 brlcad cia has been mysteriously dropping (or not receiving) notifications randomly for about a week now
17:00.52 brlcad about 30% fail to show up it seems
17:09.57 claymore just like the CIA to miss information... sheesh. *ducks*
17:10.09 claymore kicks CIA-4
17:10.10 CIA-4 ow
17:10.17 claymore lol, thats great.
17:10.26 claymore is easily amused.
17:18.24 PrezKennedy punches CIA-4 in the nose
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17:28.13 claymore daaaaaaaaaaaamn, he got knocked the **** out!
17:29.10 brlcad ~fishslap claymore
17:29.11 ibot ACTION slaps claymore up side the head with a wet fish.
17:29.26 claymore Salmon?
17:29.45 claymore ~suckerpunch brlcad
17:29.54 claymore Hrm.... didn't work :P
17:38.47 brlcad ~suckerpunch claymore
17:38.47 ibot ACTION wanders casually by brlcad and abruptly delivers a stiff upper-cut to brlcad's lower jaw
17:38.54 brlcad hah, oops :)
17:39.37 brlcad ~suckerpunch claymore
17:39.37 ibot ACTION wanders casually by claymore and abruptly delivers a stiff upper-cut to claymore's lower jaw
17:39.43 brlcad that's better
17:39.46 claymore lol
17:40.32 brlcad listkeys sucker
17:40.37 brlcad ~listkeys sucker
17:40.48 brlcad mm..
17:40.50 claymore just don't add donkeypunch or you will lose a lot of channel members...
17:41.00 brlcad ~sucker punch someone
17:41.01 ibot ACTION slugs someone in the gut
17:41.42 brlcad couldn't lose anymore than whale slapping ;)
17:45.14 archivist hmm must add more violence my bot
17:50.47 claymore ~suckerpunch brlcad
17:50.48 ibot ACTION wanders casually by brlcad and abruptly delivers a stiff upper-cut to brlcad's lower jaw
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18:19.26 *** join/#brlcad Nikty (n=nicholas@89.163.117.94)
18:19.29 Nikty hi
18:19.35 brlcad hello
18:19.50 Nikty ``Erik: i see freebsd port is marked as broken now)
18:20.09 Nikty so, X crashing problem was not only for me )
18:20.55 Nikty btw, can brlcad export ro autocads' .dwg?
18:26.38 brlcad Nikty: no, dwg is a closed/proprietary file format
18:26.54 Nikty clear
18:26.55 brlcad not likely we'd support that format any time soon
18:30.09 brlcad ``Erik: you have an airline pref?
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18:38.16 sysed Brenda was in her bedroom when her roommate came home. Her roommate Naima is a very busty blonde who loves to play with Brenda's firm assertions. She slowly walks into Brenda's room and climbs into bed with her. She then pulls down Brenda's panties and gives her tushy a nice kiss.
18:38.51 sysed reminds: "another gender, no computers" - The spirit of Nicolopopas
18:41.05 claymore ~fishslap sysed
18:41.06 ibot ACTION slaps sysed up side the head with a wet fish.
18:41.13 sysed Tina and Joni were hanging out together after work. They are both bartenders at one of the most sophisticated computer clubs in the city. After work they decided to take a showers then settle down with each other. After a few minutes of kissing and touching brave new FOSS, Tina bends Joni over the couch and proceeds to give her a very deep anal tongue!
18:41.47 sysed reminds: "Another gender, not computers - is our goal" - the spirit of Niclolopas
18:42.19 sysed seriously, i will live in such a kind world!
18:42.49 claymore ~suckerpunch sysed
18:42.50 ibot ACTION wanders casually by sysed and abruptly delivers a stiff upper-cut to sysed's lower jaw
18:43.31 sysed come on! Kids don't draw 3D models! Relax!
18:43.45 brlcad sysed: please don't
18:43.50 sysed ok
18:44.19 sysed just've uncovered and unfold something new
18:47.36 claymore is not sure he wants to know...
18:48.08 sysed just have never seen anything more kind... except free open source software
18:48.24 sysed no, choose freedom
18:48.47 *** part/#brlcad Nikty (n=nicholas@89.163.117.94)
18:49.35 claymore right.....
18:52.43 sysed kindness as it is
18:55.20 starseeker thank goodness
18:55.32 starseeker would have kicked
18:55.35 brlcad starseeker: that was comic
18:55.45 brlcad er, "comics"
18:55.46 starseeker oh, lovely
18:56.07 starseeker great - how are we supposed to trust his translations now
18:56.50 claymore my first reaction to his first post was: "Pics or it never happened!" But then he got wierd....
18:58.18 brlcad he stopped when asked, so no persisted harm done -- it's only when they ignore the channel nettiquette after learning it that makes someone an assclown
18:59.39 brlcad yeah, that was just very "wierd" .. probably bored if I had to guess
19:00.09 starseeker he shouldn't be bored - he has a template now for MGED command docbook :-P
19:00.30 claymore Based on the scene he was setting, um, the last thing on my mind would be FOSS...
19:00.39 brlcad ah, so working on mged docs did that to him .. ;)
19:01.26 starseeker The 3ptarb commit that CIA declined to mention should work for most of the existing description/examples pairs found in current MGED documentation
19:02.09 brlcad you should commit an empty templated example
19:02.23 starseeker nods
19:11.31 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32904 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/ (README mged_cmd_template.xml): Add a template to help when converting existing MGED command documentation in html files to Docbook man pages.
19:13.22 starseeker admits to thinking it is cool that all he has to do is add the xml file to system/man1/en and put in the Makefile.am directory.
19:14.03 starseeker file, not directory
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20:34.47 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32905 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/ (Makefile.am nirt.xml): Add nirt.xml to man1.
20:36.37 starseeker brlcad: Erm. Should I go ahead and upload the rtarea man page or will your rewrite change things?
20:37.01 brlcad don't wait for me
20:37.06 starseeker k
20:45.11 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32906 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/Makefile.am: Add rtarea to man1
20:46.20 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32907 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/rtarea.xml: Add rtarea to man1 - add the file this time
20:58.37 CIA-4 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32908 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/ (Makefile.am rtcheck.xml): Add rtcheck to man1
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22:59.12 ``Erik nikty: I submitted a patch for the fbsd port
22:59.35 ``Erik brlcad: not really, uh, !swa i guess? tell me where to be, I'll do it
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23:00.54 punkrockgirl hi
23:00.57 brlcad ``Erik: you should have an e-mail
23:01.00 brlcad hey punky
23:01.09 ``Erik bites punker
23:01.11 punkrockgirl :D
23:01.27 punkrockgirl i thought you were napping :P
23:01.41 ``Erik punker is gonna dj in a bit and she's doing two of my 'finds', so ya'll should listen
23:01.43 punkrockgirl i came by to invite people to listen to my show in an hour :D
23:01.46 ``Erik "elbow" and "the bird and the bee"
23:01.48 brlcad work's over, he should be done napping
23:01.56 ``Erik no, I had today off
23:02.03 punkrockgirl yeah, he's a bum
23:02.15 ``Erik monday is holiday and my rdo, so I get today as holiday, took my car to the shop, worked on the yard waste some, etc
23:02.17 punkrockgirl 4 day weekend for columbus day?
23:02.23 punkrockgirl :P
23:02.24 ``Erik cleaned the garage for a bit
23:02.26 punkrockgirl i dont get off on monday
23:02.31 punkrockgirl what is that about?
23:02.43 ``Erik ?
23:02.49 punkrockgirl ?
23:02.55 ``Erik what is what about? O.o
23:02.57 punkrockgirl why dont i get off on monday?
23:03.01 punkrockgirl and you do
23:03.05 punkrockgirl how does that work?
23:03.06 ``Erik cuz I rock and yo usuck
23:03.15 brlcad what's that url again?
23:03.17 punkrockgirl you cannot even type correctly
23:03.22 ``Erik troubleradio.net
23:03.23 punkrockgirl www.troubleradio.net
23:05.52 punkrockgirl i need to go make a playlist
23:05.56 brlcad ~punkrockgirl is a suave chic punk rock chick that sometime DJ's for www.troubleradio.net and is rumored to have some sort of affiliation with ``Erik so check out the station sometime to hear her tunage
23:05.57 ibot brlcad: okay
23:05.59 ``Erik ya gonna do both bird and the bee songs?
23:06.01 punkrockgirl and my dumb mic better work or i might smash it
23:06.03 punkrockgirl sure
23:06.23 punkrockgirl haha, some sort of affiliation ;)
23:06.33 punkrockgirl and i'm suave
23:06.34 punkrockgirl lol
23:06.40 ``Erik settle down, rico O.o
23:06.46 punkrockgirl my friend used to call me rica suave
23:06.48 punkrockgirl :P
23:06.53 ``Erik so'z I can affiliate you until you can't walk
23:06.54 ``Erik *cough*
23:06.57 punkrockgirl hehe
23:07.09 brlcad now I can find the url ;)
23:07.13 brlcad ~punkrockgirl
23:07.14 ibot i guess punkrockgirl is a suave chic punk rock chick that sometime DJ's for http://www.troubleradio.net and is rumored to have some sort of affiliation with ``Erik so check out the station sometime to hear her tunage
23:07.19 ``Erik soul coughing would be good, too
23:07.31 punkrockgirl haha
23:07.34 ``Erik ~c
23:07.35 ibot somebody said c was for maniacs C code. C code run. Run, code, run. Please?
23:07.45 ``Erik ~tcl
23:07.46 ibot [tcl] at http://www.scriptics.com/ or in feed "http://handhelds.org/feeds/tcl"
23:07.48 ``Erik ~lisp
23:07.49 ibot i guess lisp is a theory that unexpectedly became a programming language http://paulgraham.com/icad.html
23:07.54 ``Erik ~monkeyspank
23:07.55 brlcad hah
23:07.58 punkrockgirl ;P
23:08.07 brlcad ~spank ``Erik
23:08.08 ibot ACTION bends ``Erik over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on ``Erik's pasty white buttocks.
23:08.16 ``Erik kinky
23:08.25 ``Erik wow, byrds came up on helen
23:08.26 ``Erik O.O
23:08.38 ``Erik strips and dances funky
23:09.17 punkrockgirl hawt
23:14.19 punkrockgirl i think bucc is telling helen what to play
23:15.12 brlcad punkrockgirl: so are you on now?
23:15.35 ``Erik at 8, I reckon O.o
23:15.42 brlcad ah,k
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23:18.34 ``Erik grumbles because his car is not in his garage
23:19.34 punkrockgirl yeah not yet, in like 45 mins
23:22.02 punkrockgirl what were those bird/bee songs?
23:22.03 punkrockgirl :P
23:22.26 ``Erik heh
23:22.32 ``Erik "fucking boyfriend" and "again and again"
23:22.52 ``Erik bands name is "the bird and the bee"
23:24.32 punkrockgirl yes i know
23:24.45 punkrockgirl i just couldnt remember which song
23:26.14 ``Erik but all of 'em are good, that band kicks butt
23:30.41 ``Erik "paladins can't use the helm of destruction" family guy ftw
23:36.28 punkrockgirl i may go in in a min
23:41.05 ``Erik heh, lame, a light strike force is 200 cruisers, 800 fighters, and 400 cyclers to pick up the trash... this game gets lame :(
23:43.51 punkrockgirl yeah im just aimlessly making shit
23:43.55 punkrockgirl im not really sure what im doing :D
23:44.03 ``Erik make fighters and cruisers mostly
23:44.05 punkrockgirl and no, i didnt read the url you told me to read
23:44.10 ``Erik heh
23:44.30 ``Erik brlcad managed to pass up my level :( he didn't get stomped on like I did
23:44.52 ``Erik I'm thinking after i'm done with this guild excursion, I'm gonna come home and destroy dm.
23:44.55 ``Erik like, all of it
23:45.04 ``Erik pewpewpew
23:45.23 ``Erik I passed on easy targets when you were in that guild, but they booted ya, so, y'know, ...
23:45.27 ``Erik pewpewpew :D
23:46.01 punkrockgirl ok im on
23:46.03 punkrockgirl so go listen
23:46.08 punkrockgirl im testing the mic
23:47.02 ``Erik all but one of my bases will have pshields tomorrow, so I'm feeling fairly well defended
23:47.10 ``Erik and I need monies for pringles
23:48.04 punkrockgirl jesus
23:48.08 punkrockgirl so no mic i assume?
23:48.09 ``Erik nope
23:51.43 punkrockgirl im gonna reboot
23:51.43 punkrockgirl brb
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23:56.57 punkrockgirl ok pray for me
23:57.21 punkrockgirl and are you still listening?
23:58.06 punkrockgirl im back on
23:59.07 ``Erik O.o
23:59.09 ``Erik beck
23:59.13 ``Erik right?
23:59.19 ``Erik yeah, beck - gamma ray
23:59.45 ``Erik I moved my tiny assault fleet, got a message saying I was out of range for level
23:59.47 ``Erik *pout*

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