| 00:04.34 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32961 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/ (Makefile.am mged.xml): Add first stab at an MGED man page that is a tad more current - needs some more work. |
| 00:07.18 | louipc | starseeker: some funky line wrapping you've got there :D |
| 00:07.49 | starseeker | mm? |
| 00:08.00 | starseeker | you mean in the xml? |
| 00:08.04 | louipc | yea |
| 00:08.30 | starseeker | Doesn't look too bad here - what's it look like on your end? |
| 00:09.44 | starseeker | what really counts is how it looks in output :-) |
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| 00:10.44 | louipc | http://louipc.yi.org/images/funky-wrapping.png |
| 00:12.02 | louipc | well my term is at 79 cols is why hah |
| 00:13.20 | starseeker | Ah |
| 00:13.31 | starseeker | yea, I'm being a bit careless about that |
| 00:13.36 | starseeker | feel free to correct it :-) |
| 00:14.30 | louipc | I'd feel so lame doing that since you're actually doing the real work and stuff haha |
| 00:14.40 | louipc | your rules |
| 00:26.14 | starseeker | louipc: Nah, go for it |
| 00:26.44 | starseeker | really shouldn't be doing doc stuff, but his new doc display system doesn't reach full potential until it has lots of material to work with |
| 00:28.38 | starseeker | lots of instant gratification, as it were :-) |
| 00:28.57 | louipc | hey man it's good work |
| 00:29.24 | starseeker | louipc: Does the new tkhtml3 widget work for you? |
| 00:29.31 | louipc | haven't tried it yet |
| 00:29.58 | starseeker | ah. At the moment, if you type "man search" in a recent svn build you should get it |
| 00:30.22 | louipc | that works in classic mode too? |
| 00:30.31 | starseeker | no, needs Tcl/Tk |
| 00:30.52 | louipc | aw |
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| 01:19.41 | brlcad | looks like -h is help and that's not in the man page either .. :) |
| 01:20.20 | brlcad | that's where I'd really like to have the command spreadsheet complete to datamine what the predominant args in use are for various types of commands |
| 01:20.55 | brlcad | would help to know what options would be best to be globally consistent (like -? or -h on any command always giving usage) |
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| 02:42.46 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 03:26.56 | starseeker | howdy bob |
| 03:29.54 | starseeker | brlcad: Is the other html stuff actually being used anywhere? If so, is it something we can swap out with tkhtml3? |
| 03:36.18 | starseeker | Hmm. Wonder where the right place to store documentationon shift grips is - an article? |
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| 07:55.28 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r32962 10/brlcad/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:55.28 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: fixed the libgcv integration into the MS Windows Dll build |
| 07:55.28 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: added some libged file for consistency |
| 10:34.01 | brlcad | starseeker: "the other html stuff"? |
| 10:40.51 | brlcad | g'morning d_rossberg |
| 10:41.44 | d_rossberg | moin moin brlcad |
| 10:43.30 | claymore | begins the morning caffination cycle. |
| 10:44.03 | clock_ | CIA-4: ;-) |
| 10:44.07 | clock_ | claymore: ;-) |
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| 12:21.02 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r32964 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Added the clone command to libged. |
| 12:23.06 | mafm | hallo |
| 12:31.09 | claymore | hai! |
| 12:32.09 | brlcad | howdy mafm |
| 12:35.58 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r32965 10/brlcad/trunk/src/README: add libgcv |
| 12:57.32 | mafm | hey, my module still compiles fine! |
| 13:04.58 | starseeker | regains consciousness |
| 13:05.18 | starseeker | dingnabbit, I want brlcad's limitless endurance |
| 13:07.55 | mafm | would be OK with half or one quarter of brlcad's endurance |
| 13:08.04 | mafm | infinite/4 is not bad |
| 14:16.58 | brlcad | mafm: heh, graet ;) |
| 14:17.12 | brlcad | starseeker: not limitless, I slept some last night :( |
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| 14:39.02 | starseeker | brlcad: are my commit privs messed up somehow at sourceforge? |
| 14:39.28 | starseeker | Server sent unexpected return value (403 Forbidden) in response to MKACTIVITY request |
| 14:39.40 | brlcad | sounds like a server hiccup |
| 14:41.21 | starseeker | growl |
| 14:43.28 | starseeker | dammit, even with a fresh checkout |
| 14:43.31 | starseeker | BAD timing |
| 14:43.36 | starseeker | how do I fix it? |
| 14:44.14 | brlcad | time |
| 14:51.01 | ``Erik | try scaring it or making it drink water |
| 14:51.57 | ``Erik | echo "I'm going to install java on you" | telnet svn.sf.net |
| 14:57.08 | mafm | lol |
| 14:57.36 | starseeker | Can anyone else commit? |
| 14:58.09 | starseeker | needs to go in but would prefer to have his changes committed first |
| 14:58.59 | ``Erik | I cannot |
| 14:59.20 | brlcad | nor I |
| 14:59.39 | starseeker | OK, at least it wasn't just me offending the sourceforge gods |
| 15:00.12 | starseeker | blames this on the cat |
| 15:01.08 | brlcad | a new svn was deployed yesterday, maybe some fallout today that needed addressing |
| 15:01.15 | starseeker | ah |
| 15:01.43 | brlcad | not the only project too, so they know about it: https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?group_id=1&atid=200001 |
| 15:03.55 | brlcad | heh |
| 15:04.05 | starseeker | got in first, but not by much ;-) |
| 15:04.17 | brlcad | wondered what that flash was |
| 15:04.43 | starseeker | predicts this issue will rapidly get a lot more comments |
| 15:04.59 | brlcad | heh, travis saw it |
| 15:05.03 | brlcad | likes the live updates |
| 15:05.09 | starseeker | this is cool |
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| 15:05.44 | brlcad | nice way to reduce load, no need to refresh |
| 15:06.46 | starseeker | Heh - "Issues of this nature will typically be reviewed again by |
| 15:06.48 | starseeker | the assigned member of the SourceForge.net team within 3 business days" |
| 15:07.28 | brlcad | i think it's more of an "alright already, I see it" :) |
| 15:08.00 | starseeker | Oh, I know - I just like the mental image of what would happen if they did wait that long |
| 15:08.36 | brlcad | I think you were probably one of the first |
| 15:08.58 | brlcad | the earliest postings are all about 10 minutes after you first started having the problem |
| 15:09.15 | starseeker | Tjat |
| 15:09.22 | starseeker | that's what I get for doing a compile test |
| 15:09.53 | brlcad | ah, actually looks like matplotlib beat you by 2 minutes |
| 15:10.35 | starseeker | you mean 20 minutes? |
| 15:11.16 | brlcad | no |
| 15:11.29 | brlcad | they reported at 14:40, you commented here at 14:42 |
| 15:12.27 | starseeker | Ah :-) |
| 15:12.30 | starseeker | hehe |
| 15:12.56 | starseeker | how come I never have this kind of luck with lottery tickets? |
| 15:14.46 | starseeker | goes to make some food... |
| 15:15.26 | brlcad | what, you want to be two minutes late to buying a winning lottery ticket? |
| 15:15.42 | brlcad | I'd rather not play with that level of frustration :) |
| 15:18.50 | brlcad | sets up a notification |
| 15:19.19 | claymore | erik: you get my email? |
| 15:26.50 | brlcad | off to korean now if you're close |
| 15:39.35 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r32966 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: pnts have vectors and colors now, just have to make them work |
| 15:57.51 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32967 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/ (mged.tcl openw.tcl): Trim back the help menu a bit |
| 16:04.07 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32968 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/ (254 files in 15 dirs): |
| 16:04.07 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: Take first stab at updating OpenNURBS to 4.0. Have attempted to merge in all |
| 16:04.07 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: BRL-CAD specific changes. Builds on gentoo in this form, although for some |
| 16:04.08 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: reason I needed to include assert.h in opennurbs_curve.h and make a couple other |
| 16:04.08 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: tweaks. |
| 16:47.42 | brlcad | *burps* |
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| 16:58.34 | starseeker | brlcad: Does that integration of opennurbs look OK? |
| 17:00.27 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.42 | brlcad | if it works, then it looks great ;) |
| 17:01.09 | brlcad | try running breplicator and raytracing the db |
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| 17:14.16 | starseeker | erm. Lots of WTF??? output |
| 17:16.24 | starseeker | I'm guessing that's not right |
| 17:16.25 | starseeker | crud |
| 17:16.55 | starseeker | screen xy: 251,348 |
| 17:17.10 | brlcad | maybe maybe not.. it wasn't exactly flawless |
| 17:17.18 | brlcad | lemme make sure it works |
| 17:18.17 | brlcad | hm, yeah .. no .. it should work just fine :) |
| 17:18.29 | brlcad | makes a cube, even renders clean |
| 17:18.32 | starseeker | ding nabbit |
| 17:19.11 | starseeker | let me get in there and I'll try to figure out what's messed up - worst comes to worst I can revert |
| 17:19.52 | starseeker | crap - 5 hours+ potentially down the drain |
| 17:19.54 | brlcad | I ran: ./breplicator && mged -c breplicator.g l brep && rt -F/dev/X breplicator.g brep |
| 17:20.21 | brlcad | should dump a bunch of face info (twice) and render a cube |
| 17:20.37 | brlcad | with no warnings/errors during render |
| 17:21.00 | brlcad | it might not be your fault if they actually changed something, but chances are some patch needed |
| 17:23.55 | starseeker | it dumps info alright, but it raytraced this: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/breplicator_failure.png |
| 17:24.24 | starseeker | Here's the .g file: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/breplicator.g |
| 17:25.45 | brlcad | renders fine so it's not the structure |
| 17:25.55 | brlcad | just the raytrace routines (which are related to the opennurbs mods) |
| 17:26.37 | starseeker | sigh. OK. I'm heading in - I'll start digging once I get there. Confound it... |
| 17:27.02 | starseeker | had hoped to surprise everyone with a working upgrade, but nooooo... |
| 17:32.21 | brlcad | heh |
| 17:32.31 | brlcad | well, it *is* surprising ;) |
| 17:32.53 | starseeker | yeah, but now it's surprise breakage |
| 17:33.30 | starseeker | still, good excuse to figure out debugging cpp/c interactions |
| 17:35.01 | starseeker | is a bit taken aback by just how much code is in opennurbs |
| 17:35.47 | brlcad | hm? |
| 17:35.52 | brlcad | it's a pretty small library |
| 17:36.27 | brlcad | sorta, i mean it's on par with librt line-wise |
| 17:36.36 | brlcad | but it's c++, which is more verbose line-wise |
| 17:37.01 | starseeker | Ah |
| 17:51.56 | mafm | on the other hand, with new "auto" keyword, LoC counts for C++ files will drop down by 40% or so :รพ |
| 18:18.44 | brlcad | hehe, probably |
| 18:27.28 | brlcad | starseeker: NEWS updates .. |
| 18:37.43 | mafm | I think that it would be the most appreciated feature of new C++ standard |
| 18:37.49 | mafm | at least mine it would be! |
| 18:54.03 | mafm | heading off, 'night! |
| 19:08.49 | brlcad | yeah, auto will be great |
| 19:12.58 | louipc | uh oh build error with latest SVN and openNURBS http://pastebin.com/mb4f8a7 |
| 19:29.11 | starseeker | louipc: Can you paste it to the bzflag pastebin? I can't get to that one |
| 19:29.59 | starseeker | brlcad: oops, right |
| 19:34.10 | starseeker | louipc: Is it opennurbs_box.h? |
| 19:35.14 | starseeker | must have missed an add |
| 19:40.19 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32969 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/ (opennurbs_box.cpp opennurbs_box.h opennurbs_crashtest.h): Bad developer, need to add files when they're new... |
| 19:46.50 | brlcad | ~bzpaste |
| 19:48.33 | brlcad | !listkeys bzp |
| 19:48.39 | brlcad | er... *slap* |
| 19:48.46 | brlcad | ~listkeys bzp |
| 19:48.54 | brlcad | ~bzpastebin |
| 19:48.55 | ibot | rumour has it, bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 19:49.10 | starseeker | brlcad: thanks :-) |
| 19:49.35 | starseeker | I'm guessing the missing files were the problem - they caused a failure for me too |
| 19:52.07 | starseeker | jeez - who needs roller coasters when you have the stock market? |
| 19:52.57 | brlcad | oh, dip? |
| 19:53.07 | brlcad | looks |
| 19:53.38 | starseeker | just a tad |
| 19:54.21 | brlcad | woot, outstanding |
| 19:54.34 | brlcad | buys |
| 19:55.41 | starseeker | feels like the stock market needs mental help - it's bipolar |
| 19:58.49 | brlcad | hah, this is awesome... |
| 19:58.57 | brlcad | moves more funds into his trading account |
| 20:03.26 | brlcad | taps foot impatiently waiting for account to reflect the change |
| 20:03.34 | brlcad | woot! |
| 20:09.03 | starseeker | alright, how can hits.size get a value of 3?? |
| 20:09.06 | PrezKennedy | who do you use brlcad ? |
| 20:09.50 | PrezKennedy | hahaha and they *thought* the worst was over |
| 20:09.52 | PrezKennedy | morons... |
| 20:10.41 | starseeker | is forced to conclude the majority of market players have no clue what's going on |
| 20:18.46 | louipc | starseeker: yep |
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| 20:21.14 | brlcad | PrezKennedy: etrade |
| 20:23.19 | louipc | why buy now when you can buy later for pennies! |
| 20:23.26 | louipc | muhahah |
| 20:25.08 | brlcad | :) |
| 20:25.16 | brlcad | will buy all the way down |
| 20:26.00 | brlcad | it'll eventually go back up, especially on a local panic minima like it is now |
| 20:38.17 | starseeker | builds 7.12.6 to have something to compare |
| 20:48.13 | PrezKennedy | i need to buy in |
| 21:01.47 | louipc | I'd say invest in a real business rather than magical numbers in a computer ;) |
| 21:04.14 | PrezKennedy | a real business? like what? |
| 21:04.35 | brlcad | thinks you should invest your money in the Bank of Sean |
| 21:04.59 | PrezKennedy | sounds sketchy |
| 21:05.20 | brlcad | it is, almost guaranteed 0% return on investment |
| 21:05.32 | archivist | can archive your moneyz |
| 21:05.44 | PrezKennedy | im waiting for the next fake announcement that jobs is having a heart attack |
| 21:05.46 | brlcad | but there are perks, potato chips, and nice pat on the back |
| 21:05.47 | PrezKennedy | then ill buy into apple |
| 21:10.26 | louipc | PrezKennedy: like a hot dog stand or something |
| 21:57.53 | PrezKennedy | wow... $50 and i could buyout Ford... |
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| 23:28.05 | louipc | starseeker: I recall you said something before about sending a patch upstream for tkhtml3. What was that one about? I'm currently looking at the config scripts to disable the build since I already have tkhtml3 |
| 23:29.01 | starseeker | loouipc: Er, don't need to do that |
| 23:29.09 | starseeker | figured out how to use their build |
| 23:29.17 | louipc | ok cool |
| 23:29.30 | starseeker | Do need to make a test for whether tkhtml3 is already present inside an already present tcl/tk |
| 23:29.48 | louipc | hmm |
| 23:30.08 | louipc | ah were you working on a config option? |
| 23:30.11 | starseeker | isn't quite up on autoconf testing procedures yet - probably some sort of routine to look at the results of package require Tkhtml 3.0 |
| 23:30.18 | starseeker | louipc: not right now |
| 23:30.22 | starseeker | go for it if you like |
| 23:30.36 | louipc | yeah I just need to do the test |
| 23:30.52 | starseeker | does happy dance that the openNURBS updates are OK after all |
| 23:33.10 | louipc | http://louipc.yi.org/brlcad/tkhtml-build.patch |
| 23:33.25 | louipc | well that's what I put so far... |
| 23:33.34 | louipc | it won't work because I didn't do the test |
| 23:34.06 | starseeker | I can't get to louipc.yi.org :-( |
| 23:34.11 | louipc | erp |
| 23:34.40 | louipc | http://louipc.dontexist.org/brlcad/tkhtml-build.patch |
| 23:35.44 | starseeker | can't find that one either |
| 23:35.48 | starseeker | weird |
| 23:35.58 | starseeker | ~bzpastebin |
| 23:35.59 | ibot | methinks bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 23:36.04 | starseeker | might try that |
| 23:37.05 | louipc | http://omploader.org/vdHU5/tkhtml-build.patch |
| 23:37.19 | louipc | oh are you restricted to that domain or something? |
| 23:37.49 | starseeker | last one worked |
| 23:38.22 | ``Erik | I AM the shogun of harlem! |
| 23:38.57 | ``Erik | http://palinaspresident.com |
| 23:39.37 | louipc | sweet |
| 23:39.41 | starseeker | louipc: We aren't looking for an la file in this case |
| 23:40.19 | starseeker | There's probably some "standard" way to check for packages at the autoconf level |
| 23:41.27 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32970 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS TODO): Note cleanup on MGED's Help menu and the integration of the latest release of openNURBS (4.0) into the BRL-CAD source tree. No longer a TODO item. |
| 23:41.52 | louipc | the test for TNT is interesting. It seems to compile and run a little program imbedded in the config script |
| 23:45.26 | starseeker | I think that's the "right" way |
| 23:52.22 | ``Erik | sucks that garth marenghi's darkplace is only available as a region 2 dvd :( |
| 23:52.59 | starseeker | ``Erik: I figured you'd have a BSD box set up with mythtv or some such to be able to watch anything |
| 23:53.53 | starseeker | is it wrong to be amused by the wild swinging of the stock market? |
| 23:54.17 | ``Erik | nah, haven't built a mythtv box |
| 23:54.37 | ``Erik | looks like most of the episodes are on googles video site O.o |
