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| 00:32.31 | ``Erik | now that's lovely |
| 00:33.15 | ``Erik | upgrade from mysql 50 to 51, so it wants my to run mysql_upgrade, but it can't because I can't start mysqld, but I can't because I haven't run mysql_upgrade |
| 00:35.56 | archivist | lurks in #mysql and has never heard of that |
| 00:40.21 | ``Erik | I did go from a fairly old 50 to a brand spanking new 51, mebbe I need to do a new 50, then move to 51 |
| 00:41.42 | archivist | dunno 5.1 is still RC status |
| 00:50.02 | ``Erik | heh, *shrug* 60 is in the ports tree, mebbe I shoulda researched :D *downgrade* |
| 00:51.21 | archivist | 60 is somewhat beta |
| 00:51.43 | ``Erik | yeah, "-devel" |
| 00:52.14 | ``Erik | needs to write the postgresql backend for this durn program |
| 00:57.14 | archivist | noo 5.0 whatever should be ok |
| 01:00.05 | ``Erik | nooo, postgresql >> mysql :D *duck* |
| 01:00.44 | archivist | neva! |
| 01:01.12 | archivist | sets the #mysql bot on ``Erik |
| 01:02.25 | ``Erik | hehehe |
| 01:02.38 | ``Erik | I have to say, mysql is getting far less sucky lately |
| 01:03.36 | archivist | I run the #mysql bot on an old PII on the shelf here |
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| 03:00.31 | ``Erik | everyone out of the universe, quick! |
| 03:19.35 | yukonbob | evening, cadheads |
| 03:20.02 | yukonbob | thinks Aeon Flux (live-action) might be on TV tonight... |
| 03:24.56 | punkrockgirl | i'm dj'ing soon |
| 03:25.08 | punkrockgirl | if anyone cares to hear |
| 03:27.50 | punkrockgirl | www.troubleradio.net |
| 03:35.00 | yukonbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.59 | yukonbob | what time? |
| 03:44.45 | ``Erik | 17 minutes ago |
| 04:11.59 | punkrockgirl | now |
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| 06:54.29 | brlcad | punkrockgirl: still on or done? |
| 06:54.54 | brlcad | needs a beep or something |
| 07:00.44 | clock_ | beeps |
| 07:00.50 | brlcad | heh |
| 07:16.59 | yukonbob | mawning |
| 07:17.17 | yukonbob | hey clock_, long time no see... |
| 07:17.31 | clock_ | yukonbob: hey mawning |
| 07:18.08 | yukonbob | gets ready to hit hay... |
| 07:27.14 | brlcad | crazy talk |
| 07:30.09 | starseeker | wonders if brlcad would volunteer to get "borged" for the direct nerve level computer access and the eradication of physical distractions like sleep... |
| 07:30.47 | brlcad | oh absolutely if the technology was solid |
| 07:30.49 | clock_ | starseeker: in that case I would volunteer for the intergalactic optical equipment so his brain could be also connected with the aliens |
| 07:30.52 | brlcad | i'm all for cybernetic implants |
| 07:31.13 | clock_ | brlcad: Universal Soldier? :) |
| 07:31.16 | brlcad | just not of the brain until it's about to kick the bucket (then absolutely that too!) |
| 07:31.29 | clock_ | what does the kick the bucket phrase mean? |
| 07:31.34 | starseeker | Hmm, brlcad as an operating system... |
| 07:31.35 | brlcad | die |
| 07:31.45 | clock_ | aha yes :) |
| 07:31.57 | starseeker | those poor cpus would need some serious overclocking |
| 07:32.16 | clock_ | s over |
| 07:33.06 | starseeker | On the other hand, we could hook him to the internet and watch Windows be eradicated from the world's computers :-) |
| 07:33.24 | clock_ | Using M1A2 Abrams tanks? |
| 07:33.57 | starseeker | enjoys that mental image |
| 07:34.06 | brlcad | heh |
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| 08:12.54 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r32992 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/articles/nirt/en/Makefile.am: Point to actual file name for fo_custom.xsl |
| 08:14.41 | brlcad | ~starseeker++ |
| 08:17.33 | starseeker | makes the very unplesant discovery that out-of-dir build for pdf doesn't work, since the image links in the docs don't have a "top_srcdir" prefix |
| 08:18.01 | starseeker | ponders... |
| 08:24.22 | starseeker | ew - that's a real problem |
| 08:40.53 | clock_ | These free software tools are ingenious due to their flexibility |
| 08:41.12 | clock_ | I am simulating a telecommunications amplifier and want to know the time jitter caused by different shifts of 10 and 5 MHz |
| 08:41.36 | clock_ | no simulator will show you time jitter, but in gnuplot I can enter a formula which graphs directly the time jitter from phase angles which the simulators commonly show! |
| 08:42.02 | clock_ | SImilar to BRL-CAD, doing anything is also not difficult there, or hooking it up into custom scripts and website. |
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| 13:45.17 | brlcad | kicks itcl 4 configure in the nads trying to appease the tea flag gods |
| 13:58.33 | louipc | there's tcl/tk 8.5.5 out too :D |
| 14:02.04 | brlcad | yeah, I saw that |
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| 14:59.28 | novakyu | hi |
| 14:59.50 | novakyu | is there a way to generate a blueprint from a brlcad model? |
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| 15:06.35 | brlcad | novakyu: howdy -- yes and no |
| 15:06.55 | brlcad | you can generate the diagram, but you have to label it with dimensions manually outside of brl-cad |
| 15:07.51 | brlcad | example: http://brlcad.org/gallery/s/renderings/havoc_rtedge.png.html |
| 15:07.53 | novakyu | i see. |
| 15:08.48 | brlcad | would make an excellent addition and is on our todo list |
| 15:09.09 | brlcad | but it's unfortunately not a high-priority item given other priorities and limited manpower |
| 15:11.06 | clock_ | novakyu: you have quite a slavic sounding name |
| 15:11.41 | novakyu | i suppose if one could somehow generate the dimension list though ... |
| 15:11.55 | novakyu | labeling itself may not be too onerous. |
| 15:12.06 | novakyu | clock_: yes, i do. |
| 15:12.59 | brlcad | novakyu: it should be possible to generate the dimension list using the bounding boxes (for orthogonal views) or using 'nirt' for off-axis dimensions |
| 15:12.59 | novakyu | thx for the information. |
| 15:13.16 | novakyu | ah. great. |
| 15:14.04 | brlcad | nirt samples a ray through an object telling you where you enter/exit and the distances in-between -- that's exact dimensioning for that ray path |
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| 15:15.17 | clock_ | novakyu: sounds Czech |
| 15:15.21 | brlcad | massive doc/tutorial on nirt published to the website just a couple days ago, making bounding boxes and getting their dimensions is pretty simple and scriptable (make_bb, analyze) |
| 15:16.37 | novakyu | that sounds promising. i'll look into it. |
| 15:16.53 | novakyu | clock_: closer to polish |
| 16:23.27 | brlcad | looks like itcl/itk 4 rely on tcl 8.5.5 |
| 16:23.58 | brlcad | I have the upgrade pretty much done, but it requires upgrading all of tcl too .. and I'm not sure I really want to do that |
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| 18:41.50 | starseeker | brlcad: Pretty much guaranteed to break S2, isn't it? |
| 18:47.26 | yukonbob | "S2"? |
| 19:42.31 | ``Erik | third party app |
| 19:42.44 | ``Erik | they bitch every time tcl changes, yeah |
| 19:43.57 | ``Erik | (if it weren't for "s2", brlcad, starseeker, bob and myself wouldn't be getting paid to work on BRL-CAD, it's that important...) |
| 19:58.09 | ``Erik | huh |
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| 20:47.55 | ``Erik | commercials on history channel are stupid. "every wish you had *SONIC* hearing?" ... |
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| 21:24.47 | phreak4257 | Erik: please to be telling me where can I buy this "sonic hearing" of which you speak? |
| 21:39.48 | brlcad | starseeker: not guaranteed, but highly likely -- and if anything, it's not worth the hassle it "might" cause even at that |
| 21:40.43 | brlcad | i already pushed it off into a stashed dir so it can be tried later if needed, not going to do it until we have a pressing need |
| 21:41.22 | brlcad | the recent changes would have probably have helped the integration issues |
| 21:41.40 | brlcad | itcl and itk are finally separated, rewritten to use the new tclOO core |
| 21:42.20 | brlcad | and their build systems are now clean TEA builds |
| 21:49.32 | ``Erik | #file# is emacsese for a file being edited at the moment, right? |
| 22:24.28 | brlcad | yeah |
| 22:24.34 | brlcad | unsaved change |
| 22:25.01 | brlcad | make[5]: *** No rule to make target `Introduction.html', needed by `all'. Stop. |
| 22:25.17 | brlcad | ah, never mind .. that was my bad |
| 22:28.01 | CIA-24 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r32994 10/brlcad/trunk/ (configure.ac src/libged/Makefile.am): |
| 22:28.01 | CIA-24 | BRL-CAD: bob added png as a dependency to libged when he moved the 'png' command over. |
| 22:28.01 | CIA-24 | BRL-CAD: that functionality should be shoved up into a different place (like an image |
| 22:28.02 | CIA-24 | BRL-CAD: conversion library that erik sorta started). for now, just spell out the dep |
| 22:28.02 | CIA-24 | BRL-CAD: and include the flags. |
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