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starseeker |
brlcad: Is the Liquid Wiki Engine Project for
Drupal any good? http://drupal.org/node/142409 |
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``Erik |
nickcollkill on yourself, impressive |
02:00.30 |
starseeker |
needs to set up Drupal on his
home machine so he can experiment without severe risk to the
brlcad.or website |
02:02.09 |
``Erik |
once you install freebsd, just do "portmanager
www/drupal6" and it's done :D *duck* |
02:04.15 |
Ralith |
<3 freebsd |
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``Erik |
hrm, two hits with just hc's, or do I bring my
dreadnaught to single-shot it |
02:12.57 |
starseeker |
jeez, gentoo-wiki.com is well and truly
screwed |
02:13.23 |
``Erik |
naturally, it runs on gentoo... :D
*duck* |
02:13.31 |
starseeker |
this is going to be poster child #1 for the
importance of off-isp-server backups |
02:13.51 |
``Erik |
3 location, yo |
02:13.56 |
starseeker |
their isp got in a billing dispute and no one
will help him get his data back |
02:14.29 |
starseeker |
locations wouldn't have done it in this case,
he needed multiple company backups |
02:15.30 |
``Erik |
ah, I've been fighting to get my data from a
university for the last couple months, sucks |
02:16.32 |
starseeker |
there's something to be said for having
physical tape backups in a few locations under your
control... |
02:16.51 |
``Erik |
depends on how much data you're talking
about |
02:17.06 |
``Erik |
when you start measuring dat9 by terabytes, it
gets real expensive real fast |
02:17.14 |
starseeker |
grumbles... gentoo-wiki was
EXTREMELY useful and had info on Drupal setup - hope google cache
was reasonably current |
02:17.20 |
starseeker |
true :-) |
02:17.35 |
starseeker |
unless you're doing lots of multimedia though,
that's pretty unlikely |
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starseeker |
heads
home... |
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brlcad |
starseeker: can't say I've ever heard of it
before today |
03:54.37 |
brlcad |
but I don't see why we'd bother either -- if
wiki is the approach, we have mediawiki; otherwise straight up
drupal customization is probably easiest |
03:54.51 |
brlcad |
one thing to look at, though, might be drupal
Book Import and Book Export |
03:55.19 |
brlcad |
they use xml format there already -- doing an
xml<->xml conversion (or maybe get lucky if it's already
docbook) might be really trivial |
03:55.49 |
starseeker |
I was under the impression their book format
was a rather specific way of linking individual pages to each
other |
03:56.05 |
starseeker |
which isn't really what we're looking for for
the man pages |
03:56.26 |
starseeker |
but yeah, I'll definitely be peaking at the
code for a basic education :-) |
03:56.51 |
starseeker |
is working on getting a basic
LAMP setup going on his home box |
03:57.46 |
brlcad |
if you think of each manual page as a book, it
works out just fine -- the only linking is book-to-book and
metabooks |
03:58.14 |
brlcad |
or even each manual page as a book section,
there are lots of corrollaries |
03:58.30 |
starseeker |
Hmm. OK, I guess some experimentation is in
order |
03:58.43 |
brlcad |
might want to check out this guy's work:
http://www.puregin.org/node/201 |
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starseeker |
winces recalling how his last
attempt to setup a LAMP environment went... |
03:59.39 |
brlcad |
as well as http://drupal.org/project/book_import_export
of coruse .. it might do the trick outright now |
03:59.54 |
brlcad |
though I entirely expect that code will need
to be written to make it work |
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starseeker |
nods. |
04:00.05 |
brlcad |
just might get lucky with someone starting
things though |
04:00.31 |
starseeker |
I might do some work on the machine here
tomorrow - that way anything truly destructive is confined to this
box |
04:01.07 |
starseeker |
needs to just take the damn
bull by the horns and make this work |
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starseeker |
blinks - I didn't realize
book import/export was supposed to replace the specific docbook
export module |
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starseeker |
that may help |
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starseeker |
doggone it... |
04:07.49 |
starseeker |
gets php recompiling and
grabs a few winks... |
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mafm |
hi pplz |
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brlcad |
howdy mafm |
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mafm |
I do cool |
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mafm |
refrigerated by 3 giant UPSs |
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mafm |
bringing me a nice flu |
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brlcad |
heh, fun |
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mafm |
700TB of storage and not a single disk for
p2p, that's not fair! |
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mafm |
the internet is for pr0n, after all |
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clock_ |
pr0n and spam |
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brlcad |
mafm: that's a decent size data store, so
where are you at? :) |
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mafm |
that's a new datacenter to be used for grid
projects |
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clock_ |
p0rn grid? |
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mafm |
to calculate the size of the new black hole
from LHC and things like that |
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mafm |
and 112 blade servers with 8 cores each and
24/32 GB of RAM |
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mafm |
I guess that somebody would make decent
animations with that |
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clock_ |
The nature has so many mysteries |
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clock_ |
Like the one I want to know is does the BF998
transistor still have 1/f noise at 1 MHz? |
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``Erik |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19s4PCaQ5Mk |
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mafm |
be back later |
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``Erik |
hasta la pasta |
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mafm |
something like that, yep :) |
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starseeker |
pfft - the book_import_docbook.module file is
empty |
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``Erik |
sucks to be you |
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brlcad |
maybe it's a "Choose Your Own Adventure"
module |
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starseeker |
heh |
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starseeker |
falls back on the last resort
- "when all else fails, read the docs" |
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starseeker |
brlcad: I take it we're staying with Drupal 5
for a while? |
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``Erik |
um, the new machine has 6.6 |
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starseeker |
blinks - this one has 5.7
according to the changelog |
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``Erik |
bz.bzflag.bz is the old one |
13:53.37 |
``Erik |
brlcad last logged into the new one about a
year ago, otherwise I've been the only one touching it :) |
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brlcad |
starseeker: we could update to 6, but at the
time nobody had upgraded the ldap module |
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starseeker |
OK |
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starseeker |
is also poking at mediawiki -
there's an extension to allow iframes, which might come in handy
for throwing up the html output of an xsltproc
conversion |
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starseeker |
yeah, ldap for v6 is still on Aug. 12 alpha2
release |
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louipc |
down with frames! |
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starseeker |
louipc: In this case it's a convenient
solution - xsltproc will give me a complete html page, which I then
need to display as a "view" inside another page |
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starseeker |
er "preview" rather |
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louipc |
yeah they make it 10 times easier. damn
them! |
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clock_ |
999999/win 11 |
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mafm |
? |
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brlcad |
howdy pacman87 |
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mafm |
brlcad: do you know of a simple, right way to
format strings when you have to print size_t and the
like? |
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mafm |
the compiler emits warnings, depending on your
coomputer architecture |
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``Erik |
would %p be right for you? |
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mafm |
nope, it's %zu |
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``Erik |
ahhh, new c99 toys |
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mafm |
:) |
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mafm |
I don't know why they don't have fixed size
data in all platforms since the beginning, even if for size_t was
probably not an option |
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``Erik |
they did in the beginning |
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``Erik |
you could choose a pdp7, pdp8, pdp9, or
pdp11 |
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mafm |
what do you mean? |
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mafm |
I mean to use "int32_t" instead of having
"int", with different sizes in each platform |
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``Erik |
C was written as a kernel language for the
pdp-7, it wasn't intended for portable applications :) so "in the
beginning" was a radically different place |
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``Erik |
why use int18_t when all ints are int18_t
? |
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archivist |
which reminds me In the beginning there was
data. The data was without form and null, |
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archivist |
> and darkness was upon the face of the
console; and the Spirit of IBM |
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archivist |
> was moving over the face of the market.
And DEC said, "Let there be |
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archivist |
> registers"; and there were
registers |
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archivist |
cant find the full one at the moment |
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``Erik |
heh, geekenis 0x01:0x01 ? |
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archivist |
found it http://www.humournet.com/misc.humour/creation.txt |
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mafm |
dunno about the beginnings, but now it's
really inconvenient |
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archivist |
get used to it, chips are always changing
size |
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mafm |
:) |
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mafm |
I go now, take care |
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starseeker |
Oh my, a CNC carved pumpkin |
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starseeker |
that's just wrong |
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brlcad |
starseeker: oops, I suspect you ran a grep to
find the implementations? |
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brlcad |
(looking at the table you sent) |
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brlcad |
alas, a lot of them are empty, so you actually
have to look at the implementation to see if they're
non-empty |
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starseeker |
sort of |
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starseeker |
ah |
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starseeker |
I caught a few empty ones |
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starseeker |
I was looking for prim_tess |
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brlcad |
and nmg isn't the right routine I
think |
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brlcad |
it's the _nurb routine |
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brlcad |
misspoke |
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starseeker |
erm |
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brlcad |
(nurbs are nmgs, just not the other way
around) |
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starseeker |
judging by the svn logs, Ben did three
primitives with the new opennurbs logic |
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brlcad |
thinks a matrix of all the
callbacks is in order sometime soon, would make a good todo
list |
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brlcad |
s/list/chart/ |
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starseeker |
agrees |
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starseeker |
I was assuming a tesselation routine ment NMG,
but that's probably not right? |
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starseeker |
_nurb matches only in tgc and sketch, aside
from bspline and nmg... |
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starseeker |
oh, ell too |
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brlcad |
note that may are subtyped -- sph is an ell,
rec is a tgc, etc |
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starseeker |
Ah |
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starseeker |
will try
again |
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brlcad |
updates and ponders a
release |
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