| 00:01.23 | brlcad | hah, hot damn I'm good sometimes |
| 00:03.01 | ``Erik | and you believe this is one of those? :D *duck* |
| 00:03.51 | brlcad | yup -- coded for several hours on some new tricky logic intertwined with old, then compiled warning-free/error-free and ran cleanly on the very first try |
| 00:03.56 | ``Erik | (yay, gnucash is on my new macbook, now I can do my finances :) |
| 00:04.21 | ``Erik | oh, um, that means you probably introduced some very tricky logical bug, no? :D |
| 00:04.38 | brlcad | probably |
| 00:04.53 | brlcad | but that's why I'm just that good |
| 00:04.59 | brlcad | all part of the plan to take over the world |
| 00:05.02 | brlcad | one bug at a time |
| 00:05.06 | ``Erik | beat me to it |
| 00:33.29 | ``Erik | ohhhhhhhhh, I think I get it |
| 00:34.02 | ``Erik | leopard is very ... black... lots of black all over the place, I bet it's to show off the new LED backlighting which can do a very good black opposed to the older flourescent |
| 00:41.37 | Ralith | I bet it's to show off "we can make even cliche designs look good" |
| 00:48.56 | CIA-62 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33201 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/g2asc.c: prevent g2asc from crashing on primitives that don't implement *_get() |
| 00:54.37 | ``Erik | HEY, back off, boy |
| 00:54.47 | ``Erik | puts on his black turtleneck, beret, and little round glasses |
| 00:54.49 | ``Erik | *snap* |
| 00:55.53 | CIA-62 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33202 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/bu.h src/libbu/color.c): using _of_ seems quirky/dumb/odd on use, instead use _from_ to match _to_ |
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| 04:13.44 | starseeker | hmm, that's a shame - https://sourceforge.net/projects/filters/ is windows only |
| 04:56.51 | starseeker | is awed by the number of computer vision related efforts out there |
| 04:59.57 | Ralith | Programming Language : C, C#, Delphi/Kylix, Java, Python, Visual Basic .NET |
| 04:59.59 | Ralith | what the FUCK |
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| 05:18.45 | brlcad | probably just bindings |
| 05:21.00 | Axman6 | brlcad: ever played with anything like haskell? |
| 05:24.36 | brlcad | Axman6: yeah, ML |
| 05:24.48 | brlcad | and a little bit of haskell but just playing around |
| 05:25.25 | Axman6 | righto. haven't tried any ML, the syntax looked too strange compared to haskell, when doing the same stuff. @@ for instance |
| 05:26.06 | brlcad | ocaml makes ml actually kinda usable, but yeah it's a quirky language |
| 05:27.34 | Axman6 | i really like haskell, there's some awesome work going into it, and i love how all the hard stuff is figuring out the theory behind things, instead of the syntax. |
| 05:28.49 | Axman6 | things like STM are quite fun |
| 05:29.19 | Axman6 | and `par` for easy parallelising of algorithms |
| 05:31.48 | brlcad | alas, I see haskell (and most functional languages) as really interesting and useful academic tools more than practical languages |
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| 05:32.19 | brlcad | absolutely beautiful constructs you get but nobody to appreciate it |
| 05:32.55 | Axman6 | i think that's beginning to change a bit, but it would be a long time before such things became most mainstream |
| 05:33.16 | brlcad | nods |
| 05:33.45 | ``Erik_ | O.o |
| 05:33.50 | Axman6 | things like STM make haskell very interesting for concurrent applications |
| 05:34.37 | brlcad | is rather happy coding in any language |
| 05:34.59 | brlcad | at least, most languages, there are afew execptions and contexts |
| 05:35.24 | Axman6 | brainfuck? |
| 05:35.41 | ``Erik_ | heh, pheer my brainfuck compiler :D |
| 05:36.29 | Axman6 | i wrote something in brainfuck once. it was pretty much purely random... but it did end up printing something like the Apple command key clover and S or somethign |
| 05:36.40 | Axman6 | should find it and try it again... |
| 05:37.13 | ``Erik_ | I got a belief in my head that the turing tarpit is a perfect place to explore fundamental optimization approaches |
| 05:37.26 | ``Erik_ | so I cooked up a very simple brainfuck compiler suite as a test bed :) |
| 05:38.35 | Axman6 | how'd it go? |
| 05:38.51 | ``Erik_ | the optimizer seemed to make no difference fro the C output performance, but was orders of mangitude difference for the asm output |
| 05:39.06 | Axman6 | excellent |
| 05:39.19 | ``Erik_ | the bf->c->mc path was the faastest, props to gcc |
| 05:39.31 | Axman6 | mc? |
| 05:39.35 | Axman6 | oh, machine code? |
| 05:39.39 | ``Erik_ | ja |
| 05:40.52 | ``Erik_ | I still believe that zomfg core shit belongs at the tarpit level, but I'm not awesome enough to shatter the world just yet |
| 05:41.14 | Axman6 | aww :) |
| 05:42.34 | ``Erik_ | the host I chose to publish all my crap on decided that someone on that machine was doing something naughty, so locked it down and won't give me my bits back.. sucks |
| 05:43.31 | Axman6 | just threaten them with an IP lawsuit or something |
| 05:44.18 | Axman6 | if you mention you're with the Army, doing research for them... they mist be more inclined to listen |
| 05:45.10 | ``Erik_ | I'd be afraid that they might be stupid enough to resist |
| 05:45.30 | Axman6 | you're in the army right?> |
| 05:45.50 | ``Erik_ | no, I'm a civilian employee of |
| 05:46.03 | Ralith | ``Erik_: tell them you work for a government organization? |
| 05:46.09 | Axman6 | close enough :P know any military lawyers? |
| 05:46.18 | Ralith | I dunno, I think the army's pretty intimidating even if you're only an employee. |
| 05:46.28 | Ralith | really, situations like that tend to respond to any pressure whatsoever |
| 05:46.38 | ``Erik_ | yes, I do, but there's this horribly thing called ethics :D |
| 05:46.40 | Ralith | they're only not giving you your data cuz they're lazy, unless I missed something |
| 05:46.58 | Ralith | just send them a scary email. |
| 05:47.13 | ``Erik_ | they're paranoid little bitches who don't grok the notion of a real security issue |
| 05:47.26 | ``Erik_ | all theater |
| 05:47.48 | Ralith | they're also paranoid of big bitches who could make their boss angry at them |
| 05:47.54 | ``Erik_ | but if I abused my position, tha'td be worse than what tehy do |
| 05:48.11 | Ralith | it's not abuse if you're ultimately just saying "I will be very very angry" |
| 05:48.30 | ``Erik_ | complete segregation, dude |
| 05:48.35 | Ralith | ? |
| 05:49.39 | Axman6 | "As an employee of the Unites States Army, i have the right to request that your internet privileges, leased from the DoD be revoked immediately" |
| 05:49.42 | Axman6 | >_> |
| 05:50.16 | Axman6 | "wut? i thought this shit was free, we're fucked, better giv 'em their shit!" |
| 05:50.19 | ``Erik_ | shakes head |
| 05:50.21 | Axman6 | easy :) |
| 05:50.41 | Ralith | lol |
| 05:50.46 | Ralith | little bit overboard there |
| 05:50.53 | Ralith | ``Erik_: what exactly did you lose? |
| 05:51.08 | Axman6 | OS for a ICBM |
| 05:51.11 | Axman6 | an* |
| 05:51.16 | ``Erik_ | personal website, and lone data assocaited with |
| 05:51.36 | Ralith | aw. |
| 05:51.45 | ``Erik_ | code was all in cvs, but the db stuff was not |
| 05:51.53 | Ralith | if you'd left code up there you could say they were obstructing the fulfillment of your obligations. |
| 05:52.25 | ``Erik_ | and the math geeks running the site have been going out of their wa to help me |
| 05:53.13 | ``Erik_ | (I had root access many years after I left that school) |
| 05:53.29 | brlcad | find someone else with a login account on the server to copy your files out |
| 05:53.47 | ``Erik_ | the machien is port blocked |
| 05:54.37 | ``Erik_ | I have a sinking suspicion that the elicite software they discovered was my eggdrop :( |
| 05:55.25 | Ralith | eggdrops are ilicit? |
| 05:55.33 | Axman6 | what are eggdrops anyway? |
| 05:55.41 | ``Erik_ | they contact 'irc', ohz noes |
| 05:55.49 | ``Erik_ | tcl based irc bot |
| 05:55.55 | Axman6 | ah |
| 05:56.03 | Ralith | classic one at that |
| 05:56.06 | Axman6 | and... wait, elicit what? |
| 05:56.17 | Ralith | Axman6: he meant illicit, I think :P |
| 05:56.22 | ``Erik_ | yes, |
| 05:56.24 | ``Erik_ | :D |
| 05:56.28 | ``Erik_ | vodka is teh goodz |
| 05:56.32 | Axman6 | heh, so did i then :P |
| 05:56.38 | Axman6 | anyway, illicit how? |
| 05:56.48 | Axman6 | di they solicit? |
| 05:56.51 | ``Erik_ | no |
| 05:56.53 | Axman6 | >_> |
| 05:56.56 | ``Erik_ | uni paranoia |
| 05:57.21 | ``Erik_ | I can't get a straight answer out of their networking team |
| 05:57.42 | ``Erik_ | which I'm apt to read as "it ain't normal, so it's wrong" :( |
| 05:57.49 | ``Erik_ | and now I must sleep! night, kids |
| 05:58.21 | Axman6 | "listen, i have some very important work on that machine that the Army would like to see. They will not be pleased with me, or you, if they cannot see it" |
| 05:58.26 | Axman6 | night man |
| 06:04.10 | Ralith | IRC is pretty normal |
| 06:04.13 | Ralith | at least for people with servers |
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| 11:58.41 | brlcad | howdy mafm |
| 12:00.03 | mafm | hi |
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| 13:59.37 | starseeker | Humm. This is kind of a neat idea http://home.earthlink.net/~tylerfolsom/Research/Research.htm |
| 14:02.37 | starseeker | results in tutorial aren't that hot though |
| 14:11.31 | ``Erik_ | huh, there's an article that may be up starseekers historic avenue... solving what digital camera was used given just the image |
| 14:11.57 | ``Erik_ | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026826.200-digital-images-contain-their-makers-mark.html |
| 14:13.34 | ``Erik_ | the ice on my deck still hasn't melted |
| 14:18.10 | starseeker | nifty |
| 14:18.22 | starseeker | why do you have ice on your desk? did the roof leak? |
| 14:18.32 | ``Erik_ | deck, not desk |
| 14:18.36 | ``Erik_ | I called in today, I'm at home |
| 14:19.50 | ``Erik_ | I have a large second story deck with french doors and all that shit |
| 14:20.15 | ``Erik_ | on the north side of the house, so perptually in shadow |
| 14:20.19 | ``Erik_ | perpetually |
| 14:20.44 | starseeker | ah |
| 14:20.54 | starseeker | apparently still isn't parsing properly |
| 14:21.19 | ``Erik_ | still? do I need to take a photograph? O.o |
| 14:21.35 | ``Erik_ | *duck* |
| 14:21.37 | archivist | and draw a map |
| 14:22.27 | ``Erik_ | google earth "my frozen assed deck" |
| 14:22.28 | ``Erik_ | he |
| 14:22.29 | ``Erik_ | h |
| 14:22.43 | ``Erik_ | dEck, you freaks |
| 14:24.28 | starseeker | Ooo, more promising - BSD licensed stand alone source code, too http://svr-www.eng.cam.ac.uk/~er258/work/fast.html |
| 14:25.08 | starseeker | corner detection doesn't do much for circular features, but would be a nice start |
| 14:26.49 | ``Erik_ | *sigh* you missed the critical part |
| 14:26.57 | ``Erik_ | corners and circles are irrelevent |
| 14:27.18 | starseeker | waits for it... |
| 14:27.20 | ``Erik_ | when you break down matter, you get molecules, atoms, quarks, .. keep breaking, eventually you end up with teapots. |
| 14:27.43 | starseeker | ah, so it's teapots all the way down? |
| 14:27.46 | ``Erik_ | the fundamental unit of matter is a teapot, as described by a 16 point bezier surface. Utah style. |
| 14:27.47 | ``Erik_ | yes |
| 14:28.10 | starseeker | The overturn of the Turtle Theory is at hand |
| 14:28.43 | ``Erik_ | the REAL argument isn't about string theory and crap, i'ts about the actual height of the teapot, apparently, someone may've barfed some math and got a 3/4 scaling on the height |
| 14:29.13 | starseeker | heh |
| 14:29.20 | ``Erik_ | turtles are completely valid, but they're made of teapots. |
| 14:29.22 | ``Erik_ | :D |
| 14:30.10 | ``Erik_ | wonders how many people are terribly confused by that convo |
| 14:30.22 | starseeker | Sure just like General Relativity can be approximated by Newtonian physics in most cases, Teapots can be approximated by turtles for large numbers of teapont |
| 14:30.28 | starseeker | teapots |
| 14:30.57 | starseeker | ``Erik: Anyone who isn't should seek help immediately |
| 14:31.31 | starseeker | puts link up for later checking when he gets to work: http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home5/TSOI0002/publications.html |
| 14:32.14 | ``Erik_ | man, wish I were a contractor, I can't show up 2 hours late or I hae to take time off for it, so I just call in sick instead |
| 14:33.17 | ``Erik_ | for some reason, this rule from the jacket and tie era didn't die when the other idiotic rules did |
| 14:33.18 | ``Erik_ | :( |
| 14:35.01 | starseeker | ``Erik: We just pump more hours in at other times - you're required to have a life ;-) |
| 14:36.15 | starseeker | gets in trouble for working late |
| 14:36.22 | ``Erik_ | if I could rock a crunch, that'd be sweet |
| 14:36.34 | starseeker | what? |
| 14:36.44 | ``Erik_ | 40 hour grind, one session |
| 14:36.48 | starseeker | ah |
| 14:36.53 | ``Erik_ | caffiene and sugar and much code |
| 14:37.10 | ``Erik_ | that hypnotic zomfg guru code spew phase |
| 14:37.56 | starseeker | nods |
| 14:38.00 | ``Erik_ | I think I had two really good ones in my life, once in my teens when I was guzzling soda from 2l bottles and popping candy like mad |
| 14:38.27 | ``Erik_ | the other while I was hopped up on a codeine cocktail after having my wisdom teeth removed (one shattered, they cut my jaw apart, gave me 'the good stuff') |
| 14:38.51 | starseeker | owowowowow |
| 14:38.52 | clock_ | now when I hear you talking about coding fits etc. |
| 14:39.01 | ``Erik_ | when real life ends and all that exists is the machine |
| 14:39.02 | clock_ | I want to ask you do you also have problems with lack of social skills?" |
| 14:39.03 | ``Erik_ | :) |
| 14:39.12 | starseeker | heads in before he thinks about teeth too much |
| 14:39.37 | ``Erik_ | I'm quite antisocial, I make it a point to piss people off. Yet I seem to be in a nice relationship with a lovely young woman, have several friends, ... |
| 14:39.54 | starseeker | type to put image analysis aside for a moment and focus on trees any hyp... |
| 14:40.08 | ``Erik_ | I'm probably more antagonistic than antisocial |
| 14:40.21 | starseeker | ``Erik_: You mean she didn't kill you for disappearing like that? ;-) |
| 14:40.27 | ``Erik_ | not yet |
| 14:40.28 | clock_ | ``Erik_: what does it mean "I make it a point to piss people off"? |
| 14:40.39 | starseeker | thought ``Erik_ had tapped in from the afterlife - how else would he know about the teapots? |
| 14:40.42 | ``Erik_ | I go out of my way to annoy people |
| 14:40.48 | clock_ | aha |
| 14:40.51 | clock_ | I did that before too |
| 14:40.54 | clock_ | But not anymore |
| 14:41.01 | ``Erik_ | yeah, I've backed off soe |
| 14:41.12 | louipc | Axman6: Trusted Users are a group that manage the Arch Linux community repository. Kind of a step below 'developer'. |
| 14:41.13 | clock_ | ``Erik_: but imagine you are say in a busy railway station single and you see a nice woman |
| 14:41.26 | starseeker | ``Erik_: I think there are more folk around at work that speak your dialect now :-P |
| 14:41.27 | clock_ | Would you feel incomfortable approaching her and starting to speak at her? |
| 14:41.36 | ``Erik_ | uh huh? and I definitely appreciate the view, but I stay seated |
| 14:41.39 | clock_ | uncomfortable I mean |
| 14:41.53 | starseeker | Regardless, I'll bet she would |
| 14:41.56 | ``Erik_ | not that railway station means anything in the us, I'll assume you meant airport ;) |
| 14:42.07 | starseeker | "why the heck is this guy heading toward me?" |
| 14:42.13 | clock_ | yes I mean airport |
| 14:42.27 | clock_ | starseeker: exactly... |
| 14:42.38 | ``Erik_ | notes that long hair, earrings, goatee, ... imagines he has some aura of 'fuck off or I'll fucking stab you') |
| 14:42.56 | starseeker | you project that or invoke it? |
| 14:43.05 | clock_ | ``Erik_: you have long hair airrings and goatee? |
| 14:43.20 | ``Erik_ | clock: yes. starseeker: I don't know. |
| 14:43.28 | clock_ | ``Erik_: oh cool :) |
| 14:45.08 | ``Erik_ | I think in general I'm civil and polite to a fault, but I seem to try to perpetuate an aura of 'don't fuck with me' :) |
| 14:45.47 | starseeker | stratigically that does make some sense |
| 14:46.08 | starseeker | ``Erik: See ya tomorrow I guess ;-) |
| 14:46.20 | ``Erik_ | if I make it in, yes... have a safe drive |
| 14:46.31 | starseeker | is it frozen out there still? |
| 14:46.37 | ``Erik_ | I know I was upset and unhappy drivign on 95 last night... rain, traffic... *pheer* |
| 14:46.42 | ``Erik_ | yes |
| 14:46.47 | starseeker | crud |
| 14:46.53 | ``Erik_ | and cloudy |
| 14:46.57 | ``Erik_ | hold up a sec |
| 14:47.30 | ``Erik_ | that is very definitely frozen ice on my deck |
| 14:47.39 | ``Erik_ | be careful driving |
| 14:47.58 | ``Erik_ | but I am up in the hills, 95 and apg are way down |
| 14:48.05 | ``Erik_ | hopefully you don't see ice :) |
| 14:48.10 | starseeker | cool |
| 14:48.17 | starseeker | I'll be careful |
| 14:48.18 | starseeker | later |
| 14:49.02 | clock_ | Wikipedia claims social skills are a learned behaviour do you think it's true? |
| 14:49.32 | ``Erik_ | (for those who don't get why ice and stuff is so damn scary on the road here... it's not your control, it's the idjit soccer mom in the 4000kg suv behind you that thinks 4wd means faster stopping) |
| 14:49.59 | clock_ | 1` |
| 14:50.07 | clock_ | ``Erik_: what is this soccer mom I already heard it |
| 14:50.15 | ``Erik_ | for the most part, clock, I do. I personally believe that core function of primary education is to teach the social skills |
| 14:50.28 | clock_ | lol |
| 14:50.43 | clock_ | I always assumed the core function of primary education is to annoy the pupils to death |
| 14:50.45 | ``Erik_ | um, derogatory term for a woman with some wealth at her disposal but little upstairs |
| 14:51.05 | clock_ | like she doesn't have any toys in the attic? |
| 14:51.31 | clock_ | lol hehe |
| 14:51.41 | clock_ | so her intelligence is just enough to buy a suv? |
| 14:51.42 | ``Erik_ | I'm sure you have the notional stereotype... blond chick who breeds, drives an suv, takes care of the kids when they're not in daycare... that's about it |
| 14:51.59 | clock_ | basically a female and older version of a chav? |
| 14:52.06 | ``Erik_ | chav? |
| 14:52.13 | clock_ | no... chav is on a social support right? She has a SUV she isn't |
| 14:52.51 | ``Erik_ | wikipedia has an entry about it |
| 14:53.03 | clock_ | sure they have an entry on anything |
| 14:53.13 | ``Erik_ | apparently not webcomics |
| 14:53.15 | ``Erik_ | heh |
| 14:53.27 | clock_ | if we should look into wikipedia for everything instead of discussing, the human communication could cease altogether ;-) |
| 14:53.37 | ``Erik_ | perhaps |
| 14:54.07 | ``Erik_ | but I'd rather point you to a url than make myself more a fool than usual |
| 14:54.07 | ``Erik_ | :D |
| 14:55.55 | clock_ | it's interesting to talk with you |
| 14:56.26 | ``Erik_ | all I can hope is that I disturb your notion of what an american is |
| 14:56.26 | ``Erik_ | :( |
| 14:56.52 | clock_ | well you have obama now don't you? |
| 14:57.03 | ``Erik_ | in a couple months |
| 14:57.05 | clock_ | So the guantanamo will be disassembled and all the weird stuff gets back to normal doesn't? |
| 14:57.26 | ``Erik_ | I'd like it to be so, but I have little hope |
| 14:57.37 | clock_ | yes I hope he's already preparing the handbrake U-turn he's gonna do when Dubya hands him the wheel over |
| 14:58.00 | ``Erik_ | in the world orientation, both the 'republicans' and 'democrats' are incredibly right wing |
| 14:58.32 | ``Erik_ | they call him a liberal, but don't be fooled, there are no liberals in us politics |
| 14:58.49 | ``Erik_ | and since I'm out sick today, I can say shit like that, so PTBTBBTBT |
| 15:00.29 | clock_ | sonds like a pretty long acronym |
| 15:01.30 | ``Erik_ | I'm bitter cynical and old. I have low expectations. No acronyms. Just... malaise. |
| 15:02.12 | ``Erik_ | I've become a huge history and archeology buff, and I look at the modern world and am just saddened |
| 15:04.58 | clock_ | ``Erik_: how old are you? |
| 15:05.12 | ``Erik_ | oh, too old... in my 30's |
| 15:05.25 | clock_ | that's pretty old youre right |
| 15:05.26 | ``Erik_ | I believe only archivist is older than me here :) |
| 15:05.37 | archivist | hides |
| 15:05.42 | clock_ | have you already thought which coffin finish you would like to have? |
| 15:05.53 | ``Erik_ | no, I can't die |
| 15:06.00 | ``Erik_ | I have too much shit to do first |
| 15:06.16 | clock_ | I am 29 and I already feel old |
| 15:06.24 | archivist | shit do do, cars to crash etc |
| 15:06.39 | ``Erik_ | I think I got the car crashing out of my system |
| 15:06.42 | clock_ | archivist: he can do the crash and dying part at once, saving some time |
| 15:06.52 | ``Erik_ | at least I picked a german machine to do it in, otherwise, I may not've walked away |
| 15:07.01 | clock_ | Mercedes>? |
| 15:07.04 | ``Erik_ | bmw |
| 15:07.08 | ``Erik_ | I rolled an m3 |
| 15:07.23 | clock_ | it's like an SUV isn't it? |
| 15:07.26 | ``Erik_ | something about 4 trees, a hill, a chunk of road a couple times |
| 15:07.27 | ``Erik_ | m3? |
| 15:07.28 | ``Erik_ | ... |
| 15:07.31 | ``Erik_ | no, tha'ts their sports car |
| 15:07.42 | ``Erik_ | x3 is their suv |
| 15:07.54 | clock_ | right |
| 15:07.54 | ``Erik_ | m is the bmw equiv of a merc amg |
| 15:08.28 | clock_ | so after that you had to walk? |
| 15:08.42 | clock_ | I thought Americans don't walk |
| 15:09.02 | ``Erik_ | someone hick in a truck calle dthe cops, I found what remained of my phone and put it togheter enough to call iraytrace |
| 15:09.20 | ``Erik_ | he came and fetched me, otherwise it would've been a 10 km walk |
| 15:09.50 | ``Erik_ | he sat and drank vodka with me and made sure I wasn't too damaged |
| 15:10.02 | ``Erik_ | it's good to have good friends :) |
| 15:10.34 | ``Erik_ | I suspect he was analyzing if he needed to take me to the hospital or not the entire time |
| 15:12.07 | ``Erik_ | (I hope, anyways) |
| 15:19.01 | clock_ | If youre party how do you switch the people to talk to? |
| 15:19.20 | clock_ | Can you just stop talking to one and without any explanation walk away? |
| 15:29.30 | CIA-62 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r33206 10/rt^3/trunk/ (7 files in 2 dirs): added support for file based database |
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| 16:08.34 | PrezKennedy | http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1786497 |
| 16:08.43 | PrezKennedy | seems to be a nasty iphone problem there ;) |
| 16:56.00 | starseeker | ``Erik_: metaballs - where is the last "things are working" commit? |
| 16:56.32 | starseeker | I see one in July I'm assuming is it, but there's two in october and one in Nov. - are they fixes or testing new features? |
| 16:57.48 | brlcad | working a 40 hour stint in two days and then disappearing would be a career killer, that'd be bad in so many ways |
| 17:05.10 | starseeker | poor visibility, health effects? |
| 17:17.46 | brlcad | yeah, that's horrible visibility |
| 17:18.05 | brlcad | health effects you might be able to sustain, but the (anti)social aspects would be a killer |
| 17:19.15 | brlcad | not to mention resentment (who doesn't want a 5-day weekend) and the big potential to not be productive during that time (at least not as productive as you could be if the time were spread out) |
| 17:19.27 | starseeker | right |
| 17:20.01 | brlcad | particularly given everyone has to communicate with others from time to time, if only to communicate those changes and progress |
| 17:21.10 | brlcad | working it all in one go is like committing a patch with 250k lines of changes.. that's horrible at communicating what changed, horrible to review, horrible to test, ... just a "bad idea" no matter how many features are included |
| 17:21.21 | brlcad | alienates |
| 17:21.27 | brlcad | is done :) |
| 17:21.34 | starseeker | heh |
| 17:22.12 | starseeker | can't physically sustain such an effort anyway, even if I wanted to - found that out in college |
| 17:26.48 | starseeker | winces - this is going to mess up the release notes table generation again... |
| 17:28.12 | PrezKennedy | i think after hour #14 id be about ready to say "screw you guys, i'm going home!" :) |
| 17:32.38 | brlcad | even when I work a long 30 hour stint.. you'll still see me a couple other times that week |
| 17:33.13 | brlcad | if I'm working late/long, i'm either having a lot of fun (ideally) or there's something important due |
| 17:33.47 | brlcad | starseeker: what table generation? |
| 17:34.05 | starseeker | for CCB |
| 17:34.07 | brlcad | the spreadsheet? wouldn't worry about that so much |
| 17:34.16 | starseeker | isn't, just grousing ;-) |
| 17:34.31 | starseeker | OK, big STABLE revert underway... |
| 17:34.37 | brlcad | the changes aren't being applied to trunk, the table should be fine |
| 17:35.00 | starseeker | If we do a 7.12.8 though, the NEWS file gets hacked up |
| 17:35.21 | starseeker | no biggie |
| 17:36.10 | brlcad | a section just gets inserted noting why the release was made |
| 17:36.32 | brlcad | the script only notes * lines, and there'd only be one at most for .8 |
| 17:36.40 | starseeker | Ah |
| 17:38.13 | starseeker | looks like the post July changes are related to inserting points and a listing change when printing out information about metaballs |
| 17:39.53 | starseeker | brlcad: What's your preference? Is there a chance te listing changes are related to scripted uses of the primitive? |
| 17:40.43 | brlcad | there's always a chance.. I've not read the commit in detail |
| 17:40.59 | brlcad | probably a small chance |
| 17:41.22 | brlcad | go ahead and apply it too just in case, it's a succint patch |
| 17:41.34 | starseeker | That means a 7.12.8 then |
| 17:42.06 | brlcad | ah, right that was only if .6 didn't have the fix |
| 17:42.28 | starseeker | right. Since I don't know exactly what the complaint is, it's a bit tricky |
| 17:42.49 | brlcad | sounds like a phone call :) |
| 17:42.54 | starseeker | however, if we DON'T need a 7.12.8 it'd be silly to do this to stable :-) |
| 17:43.04 | starseeker | right. Whom do I annoy? |
| 17:44.32 | brlcad | you're not annoying :) |
| 17:45.24 | starseeker | will have to try harder :-P |
| 18:23.15 | ``Erik_ | um, I THINK the first commit after the 7.12.2 release is what'll make dave and geoff and russ happy |
| 18:24.08 | ``Erik_ | brlcad: you have a knack for disappearing and I seem to be the one accosted when you do, so I'm stuck saying things like "sean is as sean does, is there anything I can do to help?" or "sean works in mysterous ways, what can I do?" |
| 18:24.40 | ``Erik_ | "where the hell is sean?" "I d'no, I saw commits this morning, he's holed up doing good things" |
| 18:26.58 | ``Erik_ | I miss the ability to grind, the locked down hour notion makes me feel like a gov't beaurocrat, so I have little desire to step up and be a code monkey and find comfort in comforming to the beaurocrat approach :( it's a soul crushing horrible situation |
| 18:51.12 | brlcad | that's mostly been just the past two months while I've been moved |
| 18:51.19 | brlcad | schedule is shifted a solid 5 hours |
| 18:51.38 | brlcad | and I've used up more leave all at once than ever before in a pretty short timeframe |
| 18:52.08 | brlcad | probably the first year I might actually use up most of my leave time |
| 19:02.57 | ``Erik_ | hrm |
| 19:03.09 | ``Erik_ | dante's use of comcast may've been a significant factor of his writing. |
| 19:09.37 | mafm | brlcad: today in 1h I have an interview with minions on the evil one! :D |
| 19:09.43 | mafm | now I go home, take care |
| 19:09.49 | brlcad | ah |
| 19:09.54 | brlcad | well good luck if that interests you |
| 19:10.08 | mafm | not much, if not to go to visit the bigfoots :D |
| 19:10.22 | brlcad | so you're traveling up to WA? |
| 19:10.26 | mafm | it's an external consultancy or whatever the name |
| 19:10.34 | mafm | not at all, it's only a phone interview |
| 19:10.38 | brlcad | ah |
| 19:11.02 | brlcad | phase 1 |
| 19:11.22 | mafm | but if would be good if I were to cross the atlantic for an interview :D |
| 19:11.30 | brlcad | couple phases before WA, then usually the in-persons on-site |
| 19:11.46 | mafm | I liked to fly over the alps when going to a CERN interview :) |
| 19:11.55 | mafm | so you went to an interview with them too? :D |
| 19:12.01 | brlcad | now CERN sounds like a more interesting job :) |
| 19:12.07 | brlcad | nope |
| 19:12.20 | brlcad | I turned them down early |
| 19:12.26 | mafm | xD |
| 19:12.32 | brlcad | but had a couple friends that went there |
| 19:12.50 | mafm | I also told that I didn't use m$ products often, but that apparently didn't discourage them |
| 19:13.35 | brlcad | not at all, they look for ability to learn, not experience |
| 19:14.12 | mafm | but if you don't use their products it's probably because you have a resistance to learn them, maybe ;) |
| 19:14.39 | brlcad | they know a lot of people hate them, especially in CS .. but they also know that's some of the best people |
| 19:15.03 | brlcad | and they have a proven track record at being able to compromise people's (weak) principles with just a little bit of money/toys |
| 19:15.10 | mafm | heh, that's not my case then (some of the best people) |
| 19:15.17 | mafm | anyway, have to go now before the shop close also |
| 19:15.24 | brlcad | cya |
| 19:15.29 | brlcad | hope you get what you want ;) |
| 19:15.45 | mafm | boob.. erm, sorry :D |
| 19:16.38 | mafm | bye folks! |
| 19:16.58 | brlcad | apparently only want's one :) |
| 19:17.11 | brlcad | would rather have at least two, in multiples of two |
| 19:21.46 | PrezKennedy | 2^x boobs |
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