00:38.23 |
mafm |
night! |
00:50.48 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33353
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/search.h: fix for osX.5 |
00:58.07 |
``Erik_ |
(has u_int in sys/types.h, but it wasn't being
included *shrug* -> unsigned int was easy, hopefully not
wrong) |
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01:35.08 |
brlcad |
looked benign |
01:37.52 |
rawer_ |
brlcad: what are my regails when i'm coming
into the channel, those in bold text ? |
01:38.16 |
rawer_ |
is it fun.fun.fun. - naturfood.net
?? |
01:38.31 |
brlcad |
rawer_: que? |
01:38.49 |
brlcad |
~dict regails |
01:39.13 |
rawer_ |
i meant what does it write |
01:39.24 |
rawer_ |
does it shows my ip ? |
01:39.27 |
brlcad |
yep |
01:39.35 |
rawer_ |
which one? |
01:39.42 |
brlcad |
20:39 -!- rawer_ [n=ubuntu@217.8.236.161] has
joined #brlcad |
01:39.54 |
rawer_ |
oh... |
01:40.42 |
brlcad |
we do have cloaks that I could give out, but
you'd still have to register to get one |
01:41.00 |
brlcad |
speaking of such, if anyone wants a cloak,
lemme know |
01:41.13 |
rawer_ |
i don't need cloaks, i prefer some resilient
as5 |
01:41.16 |
brlcad |
tears a big ol' hole into one
of his walls |
01:50.10 |
rawer_ |
i will quit to re-install the system |
01:51.11 |
rawer_ |
brlcad: so what happens when i upload archive
to into the brl-cad's tracker? |
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01:51.40 |
rawer_ |
shall I save a link or something? |
01:51.54 |
rawer_ |
to give it to another human... |
01:55.40 |
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02:07.39 |
brlcad |
Ralith: you can put a link or upload it as an
attachment |
02:07.55 |
brlcad |
you could also upload it via anonymous ftp to
brlcad.org/incoming |
02:08.06 |
Ralith |
you probably meant rawer |
02:08.07 |
Ralith |
who just left |
02:08.10 |
Ralith |
>_> |
02:09.23 |
brlcad |
oops, yep I did |
02:09.34 |
brlcad |
read
s/left/joined/ |
02:10.04 |
brlcad |
Ralith: well then maybe you can't upload it as
an attachment ;) |
02:10.24 |
Ralith |
perhaps not! |
02:24.08 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33354
10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: |
02:24.08 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: merge in more changes from Sebastian
Pipping's git tree, commit |
02:24.08 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD:
fe2e3ecadce19faa426595da2572b090bd3769b9 (Add download code using
wget or curl, |
02:24.08 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: as available). made a few mods to
make the download of config.guess optional |
02:24.09 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: (and default to off for now) and
toggleable based on a DOWNLOAD var. |
02:27.52 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33355
10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: add command-line -d|--download switches
for turning DOWNLOAD on |
02:41.20 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33356
10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: apply Sebastian Pipping's
18a5403c34555594184b6d28c200cdefb778bfdd commit from his git tree
(libtoolize detection added for config.guess download after
autoreconf, add /me to authors) with a few minor mods. |
02:50.39 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33357
10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: |
02:50.39 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: and the last change by sebastian
pipping, from git commit |
02:50.39 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD:
320ee0c022636152b173ecd9b57a373fce02b1a4 (Separate availability
check and actual |
02:50.39 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: download, report versions, add
support for fetch). includes a few (untested) |
02:50.39 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: minor mods to push the actual
download line to a one-liner. |
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11:11.46 |
mafm |
ho ho ho |
11:53.46 |
mafm |
meh, nobody likes my santa's-like greeting
:P |
12:00.44 |
archivist |
chucks a snowball at mafm bah
humbug |
12:08.34 |
mafm |
:þ |
12:10.03 |
mafm |
christmas spirit is dead :P |
12:31.46 |
claymore |
Mornin all! |
12:32.06 |
claymore |
and no, Christmas Spirit is alive and well in
my household. |
12:32.39 |
claymore |
The REAL Christmas Spirit that is... not the
commericialized, overbearing Santa style Chirstmas ;) |
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claymore |
hai ``Erik_ |
13:08.14 |
claymore |
kicks ``Erik_ 's cable modem.
Behave!!! |
13:08.53 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33358 10/rt^3/trunk/
(5 files in 5 dirs): removed pthreadcc and socketcc (perhaps
temporarily) due to licensing. Plan to replace with boost::asio and
boost::threads |
13:14.46 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33359
10/rt^3/trunk/include/boost/ (198 files in 11 dirs): added
boost::asio to include/ dir. 'Boost::Asio is a cross-platform C++
library for network and low-level I/O programming' |
13:34.46 |
claymore |
heh, compile error message:
"../../include/boost/optional.hpp:15:39: error:
boost/optional/optional.hpp: No such file or directory" -looks like
the optional file isn't optional. :D |
13:35.01 |
clock_ |
hates boost |
13:35.25 |
clock_ |
I don't know what it is but it's often
required by C++ programs and renders them unable to
compile |
13:35.49 |
claymore |
boost is just a ginormous collection of
libraries. |
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13:58.54 |
brlcad |
grr. |
13:59.57 |
brlcad |
is getting unhappy with
younder reliable isp of late being no longer
reliable |
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14:06.41 |
PrezKennedyJR |
brlcad, who? |
14:11.54 |
brlcad |
sago |
14:16.46 |
brlcad |
woo hoo, couch arrived! |
14:17.10 |
brlcad |
and my awesomeness bench made from old
railroad ties |
14:17.28 |
brlcad |
two more deliveries to go! |
14:17.49 |
brlcad |
clock_: boost is only a pita if it's not
managed properly, like any external dependency |
14:18.20 |
brlcad |
you really do have to use their tool to
determine what is used and what isn't, so you get everything (or
simply include all of boost, but that's a cop-out and
massive) |
14:22.21 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33360 10/brlcad/trunk/
(6 files in 3 dirs): Added the TireWizard. |
14:35.50 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33361
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/tire.c: Removed leftover debug
statement. |
15:10.57 |
PrezKennedyJR |
brlcad, i heard about the couch |
15:11.00 |
*** join/#brlcad elite01
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15:11.06 |
PrezKennedyJR |
get my mom and dad to buy a new one
already! |
15:21.17 |
``Erik_ |
takes off his pants and
dances around |
15:35.52 |
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15:41.13 |
claymore |
oddness. |
15:41.13 |
``Erik |
and/or evenness |
15:41.40 |
claymore |
is hungry. |
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*** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD
Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad
|| GSoC 2008 Highlight: new prototype gui, check it out! || Source
Release 7.14.0 is now posted (20081108) |
17:21.31 |
brlcad |
claymore: tv awesomeness is definitely >
luncheon, but I'm still waiting |
17:22.10 |
brlcad |
the furniture is in, though.. really love this
recliner :) |
17:23.22 |
brlcad |
was going to go to the luncheon if it arrived
in time, but looks like that's a no-go |
17:23.29 |
brlcad |
the window was 10-2 |
18:02.08 |
mafm |
hmm guys, generic question about
programming |
18:02.30 |
mafm |
in C/C++, the compiler optimizes i++
increments when not assigned? |
18:02.38 |
mafm |
or it does store the old value
anyway? |
18:03.04 |
mafm |
(I know that it depends on the compiler and
optimization level, but I mean in general and well known
compilers) |
18:04.35 |
mafm |
that would be important,
performance/storage-wise, in for() loops in example |
18:05.53 |
elite01 |
i bet most do, at least if i is a primitive
type |
18:06.05 |
elite01 |
i still prefer ++i since it matches the
intention better |
18:06.14 |
elite01 |
when in doubt, watch asm output |
18:06.21 |
elite01 |
(--save-temps or so) |
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19:40.40 |
mafm |
thanks elite01 (I read it before but forgot to
say anything) |
19:40.41 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33362
10/brlcad/trunk/src/archer/plugins/Wizards/tirewizard/TireWizard.tcl:
Indicate the units for various entries. |
19:41.05 |
mafm |
I think that the optimization only involves
checking whether there's some use for the value to be
returned |
19:41.10 |
mafm |
if not, the code is converted |
19:41.55 |
CIA-6 |
BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33363
10/brlcad/trunk/src/archer/plugins/Wizards/tirewizard.tcl: Minor
mod of an error message. |
19:52.46 |
``Erik |
*burp* |
19:53.15 |
claymore |
wow... just wow.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-429 |
20:01.57 |
``Erik |
heh, the guy who tried to follow procedure and
saved lives gets punished, the guy who fucked it all up got
promoted O.o russia aint' so different from the us after all!
:D |
20:03.13 |
claymore |
I d'no.... the captain of a submarine
forgetting to rig for dive? Thats pretty bad and deserves a bit of
punishment :/ |
20:03.49 |
``Erik |
yeah, but ordering underway without trained
crew, ordering immediate torpedo range without the regular
post-drydock shakedown? |
20:04.14 |
claymore |
oh yeah, thats pretty dumb to. Not arguing
that lol. |
20:33.19 |
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21:39.37 |
nixon-9 |
dinner time? |
21:47.05 |
brlcad |
soon! |
21:47.36 |
nixon-9 |
brlcad: heck the mail box |
21:48.52 |
nixon-9 |
brlcad: give me a hint how to connect to
windows from linux through the cable? |
21:49.07 |
nixon-9 |
0-modem cable, two computers |
21:54.36 |
``Erik |
gotta set up the, uh, tty |
21:54.52 |
``Erik |
linux does that in, uhmmmmm, I think
inittab? |
21:54.56 |
``Erik |
to a getty? |
21:55.06 |
``Erik |
then use like 'minicom' or 'tip' on the other
one |
21:55.09 |
``Erik |
tada! |
21:55.15 |
nixon-9 |
``Erik: ok |
21:55.37 |
nixon-9 |
ok, i will try it at a very first
time |
21:55.44 |
``Erik |
knows how to do it on bsd or
slowaris better |
21:56.18 |
nixon-9 |
wants it to be the best
experience ever! |
22:08.38 |
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22:13.53 |
brlcad |
best experience ever.. |
22:13.59 |
brlcad |
then what are you using windows for? |
22:14.55 |
i`lya |
i`lya: right, heh... marry moment for both
computers and me |
22:15.53 |
i`lya |
brlcad: it's not my pc, that with windows
one... We have licensed windows at work, btw |
22:16.17 |
brlcad |
being licensed doesn't make the OS work any
better |
22:16.46 |
i`lya |
the more reachable the internet - the more
they forcce citizens to buy licensed software. not for homes, but
at least for firms |
22:17.09 |
i`lya |
brlcad: but i can not say windows xp was
unstable |
22:18.10 |
brlcad |
nobody is forced to buy anything |
22:18.49 |
i`lya |
brlcad: without internet, in '97 - we had to
use illegal software |
22:19.19 |
``Erik |
surely you could've started punching in op
codes and bootstrapping a home rolled OS |
22:19.21 |
brlcad |
you along with millions of others, what's your
point? |
22:19.38 |
brlcad |
and you didn't have to, there were other
viable operating systems even back in '97 |
22:19.45 |
``Erik |
or bought a copy of minix |
22:19.55 |
``Erik |
or linux, or fbsd, or netbsd, or obsd, or
... |
22:20.16 |
brlcad |
I think that's right about when I make linux
my primary, actually |
22:20.18 |
louipc |
linux wasn't so great in 97 |
22:20.37 |
``Erik |
did it in
'96 |
22:20.37 |
``Erik |
late '96, like octoberish |
22:20.48 |
``Erik |
feb-oct with winderz, it was... too much to
bear |
22:20.52 |
brlcad |
louipc: neither was windows :) |
22:21.07 |
louipc |
well my sound card worked at least
:D |
22:21.22 |
i`lya |
brlcad: linux + offline = linux on 5 cd,
3-hours installation, uh.... i played games to be true |
22:22.36 |
i`lya |
who remembers 4X cd-roms? my is right here,
close to me. Can plug it thru ide->usb to laptop |
22:23.11 |
``Erik |
heh, I had a 1x :D |
22:23.39 |
i`lya |
what a good time! Life was more
simple! |
22:23.47 |
``Erik |
used to buy 120 minute audio
cassettes because you could fit more data on them, even though they
went bad sooner |
22:23.57 |
``Erik |
pheer my epeen |
22:24.05 |
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22:24.34 |
i`lya |
``Erik: they didn't went bad sooner! |
22:24.45 |
``Erik |
they'd stretch and become unreadable |
22:24.48 |
i`lya |
they rule |
22:25.00 |
i`lya |
``Erik: no |
22:25.39 |
``Erik |
at least the coleco adam decided they were
crap *shrug* I was buying the red and silver ones, uh, 'tdk' I
think? |
22:25.45 |
brlcad |
i`lya: plenty of linux distros were on just
one disc |
22:26.00 |
``Erik |
in '97, many were on sets of floppies
:) |
22:26.04 |
brlcad |
heck, even redhat only had two through most of
the 90's |
22:26.07 |
i`lya |
brlcad: but they need libraries from
iternet |
22:26.17 |
brlcad |
no, full distributions |
22:26.24 |
brlcad |
I did plenty of offline installs |
22:26.30 |
i`lya |
``Erik: TDK, heh |
22:27.49 |
i`lya |
brlcad: 5 cd - i have told it about modern
distributions (know 8 cd) |
22:28.16 |
i`lya |
those 3 cd i had contained more than one dvd
with kubuntu |
22:28.53 |
``Erik |
http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsd7.0?id=yVw7ircA&mv_pc=24
booyeah |
22:28.53 |
brlcad |
i`lya: you're jumping from 90's to
now |
22:29.13 |
brlcad |
i'm saying back then it was just a disc or two
and you were fine |
22:29.50 |
i`lya |
brlcad: but i could thnk about e.g. Need For
Speed + wine + linux |
22:30.10 |
brlcad |
i.e. "without internet, in '97 - we had to use
illegal software" is complete bull :) |
22:30.33 |
i`lya |
brlcad: right, but there were only illegal
windows - for newbies |
22:30.59 |
brlcad |
huh? |
22:31.08 |
brlcad |
there was linux |
22:31.17 |
brlcad |
there was a bunch of other OS too |
22:31.50 |
``Erik |
installed linux from 14.4k
modem |
22:31.58 |
i`lya |
brlcad: right |
22:32.19 |
i`lya |
feel guilty |
22:32.51 |
i`lya |
i pay 0.10-0.30 usd / mb |
22:33.35 |
``Erik |
sooo, back then y ou would've paid about a
dollar for a functional linux download, hrm |
22:34.14 |
i`lya |
``Erik: ah, i mean right now - but in a past,
internet was a dream! |
22:36.24 |
brlcad |
that's what BBS were for |
22:36.45 |
``Erik |
bbs's were awesome |
22:36.51 |
i`lya |
brlcad: i'm using it since '03 |
22:36.52 |
brlcad |
I paid into a local BBS a couple bucks a
month |
22:37.28 |
i`lya |
brlcad: was it like phones just right at
street? |
22:37.42 |
i`lya |
What does it look like, that BBS? |
22:37.44 |
brlcad |
(from panama) and the BBS would dial up the
USA once a week to relay into another BBS that had intermittent
internet connectivity |
22:38.35 |
i`lya |
brlcad: calm fun |
22:38.41 |
brlcad |
i`lya: it was on the computer, you'd dial into
a bulletin board system -- text-only interface, apps, messages,
games, mail |
22:38.44 |
i`lya |
or dead disko |
22:38.47 |
``Erik |
remembers computer clubs,
with boxes of 5.25" floppies sitting around with software and
several machines with dual drives... people would bring a box of
blanks and copy what they wanted |
22:38.51 |
``Erik |
nutty stuff |
22:39.14 |
brlcad |
yeah, I remember doing that :0 |
22:39.31 |
``Erik |
odd social events :) |
22:39.37 |
brlcad |
one guy would buy something, then everyone had
it |
22:39.42 |
i`lya |
social, right |
22:42.48 |
i`lya |
how can i 'go back' in info files? |
22:43.04 |
i`lya |
is it e.g. Alt+Left Arrow? |
22:43.15 |
brlcad |
'p'? |
22:43.27 |
brlcad |
'p'revious |
22:43.32 |
i`lya |
ok |
22:43.51 |
brlcad |
't'op |
22:44.20 |
i`lya |
brlcad: why do you know it? |
22:44.49 |
brlcad |
I don't, I just ran it and saw the menu
:P |
22:45.14 |
brlcad |
it's a blend of emacs and vi
behaviors |
22:45.20 |
i`lya |
whoa!:-/ |
22:49.16 |
i`lya |
brlcad: i think you know french, could it be?
try to say something. |
22:50.23 |
i`lya |
like la femmé est l'amour (hope it means
something :) |
22:53.48 |
i`lya |
brlcad: what if i try to edit pages
"program-info.info" in the package "program-info.tgz"? will the
menu work after that? Or i will have to re-arrange links in TeTex
?? |
22:53.57 |
brlcad |
je ne parle pas francais |
22:54.00 |
i`lya |
i meant info files |
22:54.47 |
brlcad |
i`lya: depends what edits you make |
22:54.53 |
i`lya |
brlcad: i read they grammar right now (this
month) in attempt to know this language |
22:55.13 |
i`lya |
brlcad: adding/deleting random lines and
letters |
22:55.50 |
brlcad |
why would you do that? |
22:56.00 |
brlcad |
actually, I don't want to know |
22:56.06 |
brlcad |
no, I doubt that will work |
22:56.09 |
i`lya |
brlcad: i'm a bad, bad man |
22:56.30 |
i`lya |
brlcad: i doubt, too - and will not even try
it |
23:00.18 |
i`lya |
.info files are nicely arranged for learning
something. Most of modern sources offer too big amount of
information at once - we all will have big heads soon (will mutate
towards virtual entities) |
23:58.50 |
i`lya |
brlcad: what time? |
23:59.02 |
``Erik |
party time! |
23:59.07 |
``Erik |
takes off his pants and
dances |
23:59.15 |
i`lya |
ibot: time |
23:59.16 |
ibot |
You cannot understand nature's perfect time
cube! (2008.12.11 23:59:16 GMT) |
23:59.24 |
mafm |
night |
23:59.54 |
i`lya |
``Erik: don't get a flu, put on your
pants |