IRC log for #brlcad on 20081228

00:00.44 IriX64 is there a way to ensure installation of the tcl/tk lib distributed with the source?
00:05.12 IriX64 http://rafb.net/p/32rctE14.html <--- i get this at startup
00:11.48 IriX64 never mind, --enable-everything says itll build this time, thanks.
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08:03.59 csanyipal Hi, I try to install BRL-CAD from SVN source on Debian GNU/Linux Etch system, but the installation fails at make command.
08:04.50 csanyipal I get the error message:
08:04.52 csanyipal dm-ogl.c:134: undefined reference to `ogl_interface'
08:05.04 csanyipal dm-ogl.c:141: undefined reference to `_ogl_open_existing'
08:05.16 csanyipal mged-dm-ogl.o: In function `Ogl_doevent':
08:05.25 csanyipal dm-ogl.c:158: undefined reference to `glXMakeCurrent'
08:05.28 csanyipal etc..
08:05.54 csanyipal I have installed nvidia driver with glx.
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12:37.02 csanyipal wow! I delete the brlcad directory, download from SVN again, compiled and build brlcad, and get the working BRL-CAD with Archer too, with Tire Wizard and raytrace!!
12:41.08 csanyipal But, in Archer there isn't tool to create a Pipe, only arb6, arb8, tgc, sphere, torus, but not a Pipe.. :(
12:46.11 csanyipal but I can to make a pipe in the command line prompt. Thanks to the Developers!
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13:46.45 csanyipal But there isn't an Archer Help!!
14:11.03 csanyipal In Archer, how can I select for Edit a created shape?
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15:59.27 mafm hi
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18:09.21 brlcad csanyipal: still a bit of holiday delinquency going on -- sorry for all the lack of responses :)
18:26.09 csanyipal brlcad: no problem..
18:27.16 csanyipal I see that Archer isn't working as I would expected, so I return to MGED..
18:29.24 brlcad yep, archer is far from fully functional, but definitely improving fast
18:29.34 brlcad as portions of mged are migrated over to archer
18:35.57 brlcad csanyipal: if you see problems with archer, you could send them to the brlcad-devel mailing list, get the attention of Bob .. it's his baby and wants to make it better
18:36.43 csanyipal brlcad: OK
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20:06.16 csanyipal I try to put some text into my model with command:
20:06.44 csanyipal in Xchar.s ebm
20:07.26 csanyipal and enter the name of the file.bmp,
20:08.15 csanyipal width, height, and extrusion distance
20:08.53 csanyipal but get in the model something that I can't to recognize as a X character.
20:09.35 brlcad file.bmp is a windows bmp file?
20:09.38 csanyipal yes
20:09.49 brlcad the "bitmap" is an actual map of bit values, an old school unix file format, not bmp files
20:09.51 csanyipal I made it with GIMP
20:10.06 csanyipal aha
20:11.27 brlcad save out a black and white image as png file, then run png-bw
20:11.43 csanyipal OK
20:11.46 csanyipal thanks
20:11.53 brlcad that bw file should be the right input format iirc
20:33.55 csanyipal brlcad: I tried that, but still can't get an ebm that looks like X character.
20:36.18 brlcad then it's still not the right data
20:36.45 brlcad ah, perhaps that bw's are 0-255, and it's literally looking for 0-1 values
20:37.00 brlcad lemme check
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20:42.56 brlcad csanyipal: try using this png, http://brlcad.org/tmp/primitives/ebmtitle.png
20:43.02 brlcad it's 954x202
20:43.54 brlcad that's the png that was used as the starting point for the example primitives
20:44.11 brlcad I don't have an install here, or I'd give it a try
20:51.17 brlcad may need to run bwthresh 128 < file.bw > file2.bw
20:52.32 csanyipal brlcad: thanks
20:59.57 brlcad hm, looks like bw is right -- and it only cares if it's zero or non-zero for the hit/miss
21:07.24 csanyipal I downloaded ebmtitle.png, run on it: png-bw ebmtitle.png > ebmtitle.bw
21:08.40 csanyipal and run: bwthresh 128 < ebmtitle.bw > ebmtitle2.bw
21:10.53 csanyipal then try in MGED
21:11.04 csanyipal in Xchar.s ebm
21:11.16 csanyipal enter the file path
21:11.37 csanyipal Enter width of bit-map (number of cells): 10
21:11.45 csanyipal Enter height of bit-map (number of cells): 10
21:11.47 csanyipal Enter extrusion distance: 10
21:12.05 csanyipal but get nothing in the Graphics Window
21:45.14 csanyipal I must go now.
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23:26.15 ries Hey All, is brlcad a parametric solid modeler?
23:34.07 ries Ooo never mind.... it doesn't seems to have a GUI

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