IRC log for #brlcad on 20090109

00:00.11 ``Erik 1/4 elise=13.9 m3=13.3
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00:28.52 ``Erik *autopeen*
00:39.19 louipc how does the m3 go around turns though?
01:11.47 ``Erik skidpad is .98
01:13.00 ``Erik elise scores .97, most sedans seem around .75
01:13.29 ``Erik corvette z06 seems to get 1.060
01:14.38 ``Erik (that's lateral g-force before traction loss)
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05:16.39 starseeker wooo hooo - rockbox ftw!
05:17.40 starseeker should sleep now...
05:19.18 Ralith rockbox is indeed awesome
05:19.21 Ralith has it on an iaudio
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06:38.25 brlcad hum
06:39.42 brlcad ``Erik: not likely the way you drive.. that difference is easily made up :)
06:41.27 brlcad not that I'd likely ever try to push the car anywhere near the triple redlining it'd take to get up to that speed exactly that quickly
06:44.08 PrezKennedy brlcad, work might go and get me Apple certified
06:44.27 PrezKennedy then i can serve you guys your poison fruit... mwahaha!
06:44.48 Ralith PrezKennedy: by which I'm sure you mean 'maintain a OSX distribution' :D
06:44.58 Ralith or do we already have that?
06:45.47 brlcad ``Erik: plus there are varying other reports outside of what lotus reports that usually show different numbers so there is some fudge in there (e.g., http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?article_id=1949&section_id=31&page_number=7 )
06:45.57 brlcad PrezKennedy: heh
06:46.30 PrezKennedy if work is paying for it, ill use it!
06:50.17 brlcad that's the spirit ;)
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12:11.04 nice hello
12:11.04 nice hi
12:11.04 nice koi to bolo
12:11.05 nice <PROTECTED>
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14:12.38 brlcad patience young padawan
14:16.49 ``Erik brlcad: there are places where I light up and zoom, I'm just sedate 99% of the time :D there are places where I feel the frame twist daily from cornering, and places were I spin up the tires... pretty much daily :( mebbe that's why I only got 10 months off the last set of rears
14:17.24 ``Erik r&t rated the 0-60 on the m as 4.5s, don't remember what the skidpad was
14:18.03 ``Erik fast cars are scary
14:18.18 ``Erik <-- mostly afearin' hitting the brakes and the guy behind not having the same stopping ability
14:19.02 ``Erik one of these days, we'll have to swap cars driving out to lunch or something ;) *duck*
14:23.02 clock_ ``Erik: the stopping ability is determined mostly by the tyre and road material which is roughly the same isnt it?
14:24.11 ``Erik and the ability to dissipate heat, and the ability for the vehicle to not flip, and... supposedly the average sedan can do a stop from 100-0kph in 60m, I can in 36
14:24.20 ``Erik supposedly
14:24.53 ``Erik then when you have things like SUV's and pickups on the road, they stop slower, I had a gentle stop a while back in rain, and the truck behind me kept losing traction and going side to side, fortunately the driver blew into a side lane :(
14:25.07 ``Erik I don't think he was paying attention and hit the brakes too late and too hard, though
14:25.38 clock_ who cares about losing traction?
14:25.43 clock_ traction is just for comfort...
14:25.46 ``Erik for fun, I've started seeing how fast I can stop just before a 90 degree turn, it's more than half what my small street pickup could've done
14:25.58 ``Erik uhm, well, I'd get uncomfortable if someone rear-ended me :D
14:26.32 clock_ I found out since I ride snowboard I have a natural reflex to handle skids
14:26.42 clock_ I do automatically what people are taught in the skid schools
14:26.56 clock_ cause with snowboard you do skids all teh time ;-)
14:27.06 ``Erik <-- points out that he's not concerned about himself losing traction, he's concerned about someone else losing traction and hitting him
14:28.06 ``Erik when I was 17, I took a beat up pickup out to gravel roads and drove like an idiot, did the same on snow and ice... I can control my vehicle well enough in traction loss situations :D I'm concerned about the idiot that hits me
14:29.01 ``Erik my one vehicle mistake was pushing things hard on an unknown road, if it didn't crest and turn at the same time (reducing normal force) and LOOK like it went straight, I would've been fine
14:29.49 ``Erik but I've witnessed many accidents from people who simply don't understand the limits of the {vehicle,road,conditions} and don't know how to react when things go sour
14:29.56 clock_ what is crest
14:30.03 ``Erik um, over teh top of a hill
14:30.40 clock_ well if you lose contact with the ground you cannot steer the vehicle anymore
14:31.07 ``Erik I didn't go airborne, but the cresting reduced my traction enough that I couldn't stick through the turn
14:31.14 ``Erik then there was a tree
14:31.29 ``Erik jumped out of nowhere, I tell ya, they're sneaky devils
14:31.38 clock_ yeah they like made of rubber
14:32.03 clock_ did it want you to take it for a hitchhike?
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16:09.16 louipc wow multi-user version-controlled geometry services eh
16:12.12 louipc that may intersect with one of my projects - the multi-user version-controlled services part at least heh
16:13.52 ``Erik sticks his finger up his nose
16:20.15 PrezKennedy you're pointing at your brain!
16:20.42 ``Erik yes, pheer my awesome aim, I can point at dust on a fleas ass from 20 klicks out
16:21.57 PrezKennedy oh yeah well i can point at a star hundreds of light years away
16:22.58 louipc stars are huge though
16:23.08 ``Erik stars are pretty damn big, I mean, if you compare arcseconds of a typical star vs flea assdust twelve and a half miles away...
16:23.35 PrezKennedy youll have to computer it and let me know what the difference is :)
16:23.40 PrezKennedy *compute
16:24.29 ``Erik nah, I have lunch to attend to, but you'd better have the answer on my desk by COB, mr!
16:32.36 PrezKennedy "Apart from the sun, the star with the largest angular diameter from Earth is R Doradus, a red supergiant with a diameter of 0.05 arcseconds."
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17:25.38 brlcad waves to MinuteElectron
17:32.49 MinuteElectron hi, brlcad
17:33.58 brlcad MinuteElectron: happy holidays, how've you been?
17:34.45 MinuteElectron thanks, i've been ok a bit depressed recently but I managed to get myself some freelance work so it's not all bad
17:34.50 MinuteElectron yourself?
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17:40.14 brlcad MinuteElectron: oh, pretty good -- having fun adjusting my lifestyle a little bit
17:40.23 brlcad but now about ready to get back to working on more code
17:40.38 brlcad sorry to hear about being depressed.. that sucks!
17:40.39 MinuteElectron ah, nice; did the move go well?
17:41.24 MinuteElectron yeah, stress and what not all built up since the summer
18:14.01 brlcad MinuteElectron: yeah, the move went great .. still shopping for some furniture and knocking holes in walls but making progress
18:42.20 ``Erik if I did my math right, the average speck of dust at 20km will be 0.0000103 arcseconds
19:05.08 ``Erik (defun rad2arcsec (rad) (/ rad (/ pi 648000)))
19:05.08 ``Erik (defun arcsec (opp adj) (rad2arcsec (atan (/ opp adj))))
19:05.14 ``Erik pheer my nerdiness
19:14.26 archivist hehe we used to spec a torque meter in height in New York from the UK
19:14.59 archivist the resolution of the shaft twist
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19:45.51 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33497 10/brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: susan's middle name started with an A
19:51.11 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33498 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/make.c: Tweak the parameters of the following primitives to give better results wrt the view: grip, hyp, part, rcc, rec, rhc, rpc, tec, tgc, trc and all arbs
19:52.49 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33499 10/brlcad/trunk/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am src/README src/mk/ src/shapes/):
19:52.49 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: rename the old 'mk' tools to just generalized 'shapes' as in tools that create
19:52.49 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: objects corresponding to various prescribed shapes. thanks to steven kennedy
19:52.49 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: for the mini-nomenclature brainstorming session result. tools still need to
19:52.51 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: have the mk_ prefix removed for simplicity.
19:56.04 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33500 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): move the tire tool into the 'new' shapes directory.
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20:02.34 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33501 10/brlcad/trunk/ (26 files in 2 dirs): renamed all of the mk_ binaries to remove the mk_ prefix so it's just 'window' 'handle' 'gastank' 'wire' 'window' 'winfrm' 'handle' and 'bolt' now.
20:11.51 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33502 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): move the fence tool from proc-db to shapes
20:32.55 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33503 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/scale.c: Fixed the sscanf statement in ged_scale_args.
20:35.42 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33504 10/brlcad/trunk/src/shapes/ (12 files): remove the mk_ prefix references now that they're renamed.
20:36.35 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33505 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (conv/bot_dump.c libged/bot_dump.c): This fixes bug 2279400 (i.e. but_dump -u option problems)
20:44.57 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33506 10/brlcad/trunk/src/shapes/ (bolt.c gastank.c handle.c window.c winfrm.c wire.c): clean up header comments to be consistent with the other sources (no authorship or complication instructions, that's for docs). some ws cleanup too.
20:50.10 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33507 10/brlcad/trunk/src/shapes/ (bolt.c gastank.c handle.c window.c winfrm.c wire.c): remove gratuitous spacing
20:54.25 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33508 10/brlcad/trunk/src/shapes/ (bolt.c gastank.c handle.c window.c winfrm.c wire.c): ws alignment cleanup
21:00.24 ``Erik one of these days, I'll figure out not to bother updating during a flurry O.o
21:34.17 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33509 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (picket_fence.1 picket_fence.c): cleanup the picket_fence proc. fix a crashing bug on not testing for valid inputs, ws/style/indent, validate numeric args.
21:41.28 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33510 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ged.c: Set initial view scale to 500.
21:46.07 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33511 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (attach.c mged.c setup.c): A little cleanup and a minor mod that fixes a solid edit illumination problem that crept in with the push to use libged.
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23:20.27 ``Erik http://brlcad.org/~erik/paper.html
23:24.14 alex_joni ``Erik: lol
23:24.35 ``Erik (it was in a place where you had to click on thumbnails to view each one, so I figured I'd glue it together for ya'll)
23:27.14 alex_joni luckily opera has a zoom function :)
23:28.47 alex_joni lol @ works cited / tubgirl
23:29.53 ``Erik firefox3 zooms images when you zoom text
23:30.07 alex_joni cool, older ones didn't
23:30.14 ``Erik just before it came out, I put some javascript zoom on click code in my comic page :/
23:30.25 alex_joni although you could zoom using mouse gestures
23:30.47 alex_joni but you had to zoom individual images
23:31.39 ``Erik yeah, firefox had an addon called "imagezoom" that give you zoom options with various click combos
23:32.04 ``Erik <-- tried to push opera on his parents to get them off of ie, was using galeon at the time
23:33.03 alex_joni chrome is really nice
23:33.52 ``Erik haven't tried it yet *shrug* supposedly it's very fast
23:34.00 alex_joni it is
23:34.22 alex_joni well, only a couple months away from mac and linux versions
23:34.46 ``Erik I thought those were out
23:34.50 ``Erik where's my freebsd version?
23:34.58 ``Erik where's my haiku version?
23:34.58 ``Erik :D
23:35.34 alex_joni not yet
23:42.44 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33512 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/picket_fence.c: move the -r option to before the waypoints so that it's easier book-keeping. maybe cliff can fix the bug with a simple two-point fence where it creates a top-level null combination.
23:45.09 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33513 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): move picket_fence from proc_db over to the 'new' shapes directory. seems to work well enough now, minus one top-level bug with two points.
23:50.57 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33514 10/brlcad/trunk/src/shapes/ (winfrm.1 winfrm.c): rename winfrm to window_frame
23:52.17 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33515 10/brlcad/trunk/src/shapes/ (Makefile.am window_frame.1 window_frame.c winfrm.1 winfrm.c): rename winfrm to window_frame. avoid unnecessary name obscurity.
23:53.18 CIA-65 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33516 10/brlcad/trunk/src/shapes/ (bolt.1 gastank.1 handle.1 window.1 wire.1): remove a few missed Mk_ prefixes

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