IRC log for #brlcad on 20090126

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06:05.57 *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || GSoC 2008 Highlight: new prototype gui, check it out! || Source Release 7.14.0 is now posted (20081108)
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11:35.40 d-lo mornin all!
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12:28.39 brlcad mornin'
12:31.45 d-lo hows the weekend going? Or is it over like mine :/
12:33.51 brlcad oh, it's over .. it was mostly a "catch-up" weekend at that with most everything pushed back a few days that I had planned
12:34.34 brlcad still not back to my regular coding habits yet, have a few more things to tie up in the house before I can have my nights back
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12:35.48 d-lo Hai Learner! ;)
12:37.30 learner hmm, been a while since I was last let out!
12:39.20 d-lo whats the occasion for the release?
12:42.26 learner I don't know, I suppose my master just finally got around to letting me out of my cage
12:42.47 d-lo ah, The Halibut.
12:48.06 brlcad learner: I'm not sure, but I think he just called you a fish
12:48.43 learner swims away in disgust
12:49.10 d-lo :D
12:49.37 d-lo brlcad: hows the ride treating ya? Have you tried it in the snow yet? :D
12:50.02 brlcad fantastic and yes
12:50.45 d-lo does well in the snow?
12:50.58 brlcad she's like a ballerina on ice without ice skates
12:51.50 brlcad does okay, well enough, but you can tell she doesn't have her footing
12:52.01 d-lo ....so your feet get cold> :)
12:52.35 d-lo heh, I would think that a heavy foot + that car + snow = a lot of trouble....
12:52.42 brlcad yeah, actually .. the tires are probably the worst I could have on it for snow
12:53.01 d-lo heh, 20" Mudders would look rather silly on it though...
12:54.19 d-lo ponders that..... and chuckles.
12:55.08 brlcad I've driven through plenty a blizzard in cars that aren't meant for snow to make it work, just have to take it very very careful
12:55.29 brlcad the really brief snow storm last monday was interesting
12:55.51 brlcad before the roads were cleared
12:56.30 d-lo Isn't kinda funny how much survival of a snow storm is more dependant on the driver than the vehicle? When I was stationed in upstate NY, the best snow car I ever driven was a '96 Chrysler Sebring Hardtop
12:57.26 d-lo of course, diggin out a low profile car is a bit of a pain.... and I can only imagine trying to dig out that little lotus of yours heh :)
12:59.26 brlcad yeah, it wouldn't take even half a foot to make it a non-starter
12:59.49 brlcad but just a few inches is more a matter of speed, ice, conditions, road, etc
13:00.59 brlcad used to take my old geo out all the time up through the mountains on unplowed snowy roads, there'd be SUV's and car's every couple miles that had slid off the road
13:01.19 brlcad heads in to that class
13:01.33 d-lo Hrm, Line lock the front breaks, put on some skids of some sort and you could have one badass (and fast) snow-mobile
13:01.50 d-lo the PM type class?
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13:55.54 ``Erik more about the rubber and skill than the machine, imho
13:56.27 ``Erik my dad was a wrecker in his youth, his observation was that SUV's and trucks were the ones in the ditches
13:57.33 d-lo really wants to try out his jeep in a nasty storm :D
13:57.46 ``Erik <-- called in today, feelin' not so awesome and looking at snow outside
13:58.01 d-lo Is it snowing already at your place?
13:58.31 ``Erik I tried to take my truck out into a playground many years ago, nose went through the ditch ok, but the ass.... the bumper hit the asphault and the rear wheels were suspended
13:58.39 ``Erik it did earlier, it's mostly died down now
13:59.41 d-lo well, every time they have called for snow, we (up in PA) got nuthin.... so I am going to call this storm's bluff too.
13:59.45 d-lo :D
13:59.57 d-lo 'Never cry wol....er, snow'
14:01.50 d-lo ``Erik: how was your weekend?
14:01.59 ``Erik huh, pay raise, neat
14:02.04 ``Erik hazy :D
14:02.22 ``Erik neighbors buddy wants to buy my truck for 200, I said 250 and he gets a manual and chains, too
14:02.22 d-lo oh yeah.. the raise is supposed to kick in this paycheck innit?
14:02.39 ``Erik yeah, I got over 10% (capped and all)
14:02.43 d-lo he gonna haul it away?
14:02.51 ``Erik that'd be the plan
14:02.52 d-lo 10%, nice :)
14:02.58 ``Erik I'll help push it out in the road
14:03.01 ``Erik but that's about it
14:03.02 ``Erik :D
14:03.04 d-lo Ah, you capped in your payband?
14:04.22 ``Erik yeah, have been for 5 years
14:04.28 d-lo is getting close to the cap....
14:04.30 ``Erik I keep getting yelled at cuz I never bother putting in the case
14:04.38 ``Erik you're db3?
14:04.41 d-lo needs to work on his case.
14:04.42 ``Erik <-- just a 2
14:04.50 d-lo justa 2 also.
14:07.15 d-lo so, even capped, you still pull a 10% raise?
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15:46.02 IriX64 mysite/truck.png <--- done on vista64 with no cygwin installed using Xwin32 for an X server :)
15:49.34 IriX64 heh, the roaring silence was deafining ;)
15:59.14 IriX64 wait a sec
16:03.04 IriX64 ftp's giving me grief
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16:44.44 IriX64 now try
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16:45.03 IriX64 waiti exceeded my quota :(
16:45.25 d-lo try what?
16:45.52 IriX64 trying to get a picture up to my site
16:46.39 d-lo ah, who's your host?
16:47.06 IriX64 heh BitchX on Vista64 , Microsoft I think you're number one ;)
16:47.12 IriX64 sympatico
16:49.52 IriX64 d-lo my mugs there tho, http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/mug.png
16:51.10 d-lo that from the tutorial?
16:51.16 IriX64 yes
16:51.30 IriX64 i need help to draw :)
16:51.44 IriX64 err model
16:51.51 d-lo heh :)
16:51.56 IriX64 this is hardly drawing :)
16:52.09 d-lo don't forget to subtract the inner cyl from the outer cyl and the torus ;)
16:52.20 IriX64 heh yeah :)
16:53.00 IriX64 where's the whip? whip my ftp client up to speed :)
16:53.19 d-lo I have had very good luck with Netfirms.com as a host
16:53.31 IriX64 I'm in Canada
16:53.57 IriX64 or do you mean as an ftp site host?
16:53.59 d-lo okay....
16:54.59 IriX64 os2.png is os2 in a vm machine
16:55.24 d-lo os2? Ewww... why?
16:55.45 IriX64 heh have an old pm app whose pretty face i wanted to see again :)
16:59.13 IriX64 ive seen snails move faster than this, must be a busy day in sympatico land :)
17:07.13 IriX64 tool.png fixed 1 overlap in m35.g :)
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17:10.46 csanyipal Howdy!
17:11.02 d-lo howdy!
17:11.37 IriX64 doody :)
17:11.58 csanyipal I run now the brlcad 7.12.6 on Windows XP.
17:12.44 csanyipal In the Command window of MGED the fonts are so small and I can't to setup to get bigger fonts. Why?
17:15.50 csanyipal On the Windows Desktop I have the biggest font setup.
17:18.58 IriX64 try mged icon right click -> properties not sure but you may be able to do something there
17:19.11 csanyipal ok
17:19.32 d-lo well, MGED runs in a tcl enviornment. There should be font settings available from within MGED.
17:22.43 csanyipal On MGED icon the right click give to me the setup but only for the black MS command prompt window.
17:23.05 IriX64 just a sec im installing it
17:23.07 d-lo in mged, try File -> preferences -> fonts
17:23.39 csanyipal In MGED Command Window there is the File -> preferences -> fonts but there I get an error message:
17:23.55 d-lo okay, I do too. Must be a windows thing.
17:23.55 csanyipal named font "button_font" doesn't exist
17:23.56 csanyipal <PROTECTED>
17:23.56 csanyipal "font configure $fname"
17:23.56 csanyipal <PROTECTED>
17:23.56 csanyipal <PROTECTED>
17:23.58 csanyipal "font_scheme_init id_0"
17:24.00 csanyipal <PROTECTED>
17:24.24 IriX64 mine comes up like d-lo said
17:24.48 csanyipal :(
17:24.48 IriX64 set to 12 at the moment
17:24.57 d-lo IriX64: are you running it through *nix or win32?
17:25.05 IriX64 win32
17:25.18 IriX64 only 7.14.1 runs thru *nix
17:26.04 csanyipal In the School there I have too BRL-CAD 7.12.6 and fonts are good in the MGED Command Window.
17:26.35 IriX64 try reinstalling the thing, you're data should be safe
17:26.42 csanyipal Only here, at my home I get the small fonts and this error when I try to setup Fonts.
17:26.51 csanyipal ok
17:27.46 IriX64 heh is this a hot copy of brlcad? thats the built in copy protection (chuckle)
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17:28.41 IriX64 d-lo finally... truck.png :)
17:29.21 csanyipal I reinstalled brlcad but still have the fonts problem.
17:29.50 d-lo csanyipal: at school, are you running it on windows or *nix?
17:30.28 csanyipal at school I'm running it on Windows XP
17:30.43 d-lo IriX64: well that truck looks familiar
17:30.50 d-lo csanyipal: and at home?
17:30.55 IriX64 heh you guys drew it
17:31.04 csanyipal at home is the same
17:31.40 IriX64 do you have somebody elses tcl/tk installed at home
17:32.08 IriX64 like activestate?
17:32.18 csanyipal well, I don't remember.. how can I know that?
17:32.37 d-lo csanyipal: How about the versions at School and at home?
17:32.52 csanyipal I must to see in Start / Control Panel / Add or Remove Programs, right?
17:33.10 csanyipal The versions at school and at home are the same
17:33.41 IriX64 see if theres something installed at home that you *don't have installed at school
17:34.31 IriX64 csanyipal. theres no error here it behaves accodringly
17:34.52 IriX64 defaults to 12, did you change the default
17:35.27 IriX64 save your database, go to programfiles brlcad and wipe it out and re-install it
17:35.57 d-lo there is no need to reinstall
17:36.14 csanyipal ok I go now, because I'm removing some programs and must to close X-Chat.
17:36.20 d-lo if you want to change settings and a in-app means is not possible, just edit the .mgedrc file
17:36.25 csanyipal Thanks! See you later!
17:37.37 IriX64 d-lo, i didn't want to tell him, but i'm booted into vista64 at the moment :)
17:37.55 d-lo ...and why didn't you want to tell him?
17:37.58 IriX64 and mged 7.12.6 runs fine
17:38.13 IriX64 start an os discrepancy war, no thanks
17:38.49 d-lo he's on XP, you are on vista... there is no war there imho.
17:39.17 IriX64 ok so i shoulda told him
17:39.29 d-lo RHEL > XP > Vista :D
17:39.52 IriX64 rm -rf any and all versions of windows :)
17:41.17 IriX64 altho... whan properly schooled windows is beautiful (read winix is wonderful) :)
17:42.25 d-lo Heh, been down into the guts of windows and back again. There is very little beautiful about it 'cept the shine the polish the package with :) The *ONLY* think windows has going for it is the amount of software (read: Games) available for it :)
17:42.54 IriX64 you call med a game :P
17:42.58 IriX64 mged
17:44.20 d-lo mged on *nix is > mged on windows. the windows port isn't quite at 100% yet
17:44.35 IriX64 time to see if i can school irssi , fun stuff thanks for the chat
17:44.40 IriX64 this i know
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18:30.35 csanyipal Howdy! Success here :)
18:30.49 d-lo what was the culprit?
18:31.36 csanyipal Well, I removed many programs, and don't know which one cause the problem. :(
18:31.53 d-lo strangeness
18:32.28 csanyipal I have here Emacs for Windows too, and maybe it was the problem..
18:32.35 csanyipal I had..
18:32.39 csanyipal emacs
18:46.52 csanyipal So long!
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19:17.45 csanyipal Well, on Windows XP in MGED when raytracing a region the Underlay / Overlay command doesn't work. I'm now on Debian GNU/Linux Etch. :) Here MGED works. :)
19:37.38 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33606 10/brlcad/trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Added the following functions to libged (also modified MGED to use them): ged_debugbu, ged_debugdir, ged_debuglib, ged_debugmem and ged_debugnmg.
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22:06.33 CIA-31 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33607 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (debugbu.c debugdir.c debuglib.c debugmem.c debugnmg.c): Oops, forgot to add the new source files for the last libged upgrade.
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