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| 01:30.09 | mafm | night |
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| 02:09.30 | yukonbob | evening, cadheads |
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| 05:24.58 | brlcad | evening yukonbob |
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| 06:08.11 | yukonbob | is hopped-up on caffeine :P |
| 06:08.17 | yukonbob | not good at this time of night... |
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| 06:41.22 | brlcad | outstanding |
| 06:41.27 | brlcad | so just stay up through the night |
| 06:42.46 | brlcad | starseeker: cool, now that'd be a pretty good (and feasible) model to capture in detail and match/recreate the drawings |
| 06:55.48 | yukonbob | brlcad: :) |
| 06:56.07 | yukonbob | might pick on an itcl compile issue while up... |
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| 09:34.27 | mafm | hi |
| 09:45.50 | Dr_Phreakenstein | hello |
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| 11:30.04 | newbeesl | Hi everybody ! |
| 11:30.23 | newbeesl | searching for help about sketch extrusion parameters ... |
| 11:30.55 | newbeesl | i) Y Z ? |
| 11:31.04 | newbeesl | ii) X Y Z of H ? |
| 11:31.11 | newbeesl | iii) X Y Z of A ? |
| 11:31.21 | newbeesl | iv) X Y Z of B ? |
| 12:01.56 | d-lo | stretches. |
| 12:02.00 | d-lo | mernin all. |
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| 13:33.54 | brlcad | yawns |
| 13:38.50 | d-lo | heh, stop that... its contagious! |
| 13:41.10 | yukonbob | morning cadheads |
| 13:49.15 | d-lo | Mernin yukonbob! |
| 13:49.27 | ``Erik | heh |
| 13:49.41 | ``Erik | fun drive, d-lo? O.o |
| 13:50.15 | d-lo | Not really. Road was bone dry 'cept one 15 foot swath of "Oh dear god I am going to die" ice :) |
| 13:50.44 | ``Erik | up where I live, seemed like there was more ice than road :/ once I got down out of the hills, it was nice, though |
| 13:51.05 | d-lo | The ice was naaaaaaaaasty yesterday, but today seems just fine. |
| 13:51.24 | ``Erik | has more snow and ice on his car than there is on the ground down here O.O |
| 13:51.59 | d-lo | I was clearing the walkway to the cars and the snow/Ice i was shoveling on to the hill was skidding almost 200+ feet down the hill and into the main road. kinda creepy to watch it just keep going and going. Zero friction. |
| 13:52.18 | ``Erik | neat |
| 13:52.21 | d-lo | Perhaps snow and Ice appriciate a good car when it sees it. |
| 13:52.23 | ``Erik | I had to use a pickaxe |
| 13:53.22 | d-lo | I was sooooo tempted to get out the garden hose and create the 'Hill of Death" and go sledding.... but the wife called me stupid and said I couldn't. |
| 13:53.34 | brlcad | aww |
| 13:53.35 | d-lo | You have a pickaxe? Why? |
| 13:53.43 | brlcad | party pooper |
| 13:53.56 | brlcad | that coulda been neat :) |
| 13:54.10 | d-lo | At first I was put out by it, then I realized all the kids would have wanted to go down it also. |
| 13:54.18 | ``Erik | so when I get the urge to say "yo, lemme axe you a question", I can back it up |
| 13:54.25 | d-lo | lol |
| 13:55.07 | ``Erik | nah, every once in a while I have to dig a hole |
| 13:55.51 | ``Erik | then your back yard is basically a thin veneer of clay on scrap rock, you have to do some persuading before switching to the shovel |
| 13:56.32 | d-lo | well, isn't tough ground what led to the use of shallow graves? Oh, wait, you told me not to mention that stuff..... |
| 13:56.51 | d-lo | :D |
| 13:56.55 | ``Erik | before this morning, that was the last thing I used it for O.o my poor fishie |
| 13:57.09 | d-lo | You buried a fish? |
| 13:57.12 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 13:57.23 | d-lo | Wow, you are way more compassionate that I am then. |
| 13:57.34 | ``Erik | it was too big for burial at sewer |
| 13:57.56 | archivist | feed it to the cat |
| 13:58.05 | d-lo | I dunno, the Porcelean Express can handle quite a bit. |
| 13:58.43 | ``Erik | a) ain't got a cat, b) would a been too big for cat, c) had a life of weird aquarium chemicals so is probably poisenous to a cat |
| 13:59.10 | d-lo | did you have a 3' catfish or somethin? |
| 13:59.42 | ``Erik | um, he was only a little over a foot, but he was a variant of catfish, yes |
| 14:01.11 | d-lo | wow. Catfish might have eated the Cat. They are pretty mean, in my experience. |
| 14:01.44 | ``Erik | pleco, a suckerfish, not a normal catfish but the same family |
| 14:02.25 | d-lo | huh, neat. |
| 14:02.54 | d-lo | Never heard of a pet fish too big to flush. How long did you have him/her/it? |
| 14:03.16 | ``Erik | um, eight or nine years? |
| 14:06.18 | d-lo | Well, back to work. See you guys soon. The standup meeting moved to 1330 |
| 14:06.22 | d-lo | fyi |
| 14:13.22 | starseeker | k - thanks |
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| 14:55.18 | starseeker | finishes cleaning up cat barf and heads in |
| 14:55.36 | starseeker | pondering ways to make the cat accept a hair brush |
| 14:57.19 | archivist | mine liked it |
| 15:02.42 | starseeker | ours screams |
| 15:05.01 | d-lo | drugs |
| 15:05.17 | d-lo | tranq the cat and shave it. |
| 15:07.48 | starseeker | heh - I get in trouble when I suggest that |
| 15:07.54 | starseeker | really heads in this time |
| 15:10.06 | archivist | saw a couple of silly cats last night, the fur was too short to comb |
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| 18:09.29 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33614 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged_test.sh: Add basic tests of comb and r commands. |
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| 19:44.13 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33615 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: clarify, it's a base2 log |
| 20:02.18 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33616 10/brlcad/trunk/src/liboptical/material.c: tweak the unknown material/shader message slightly so it prints up more neatly. |
| 20:05.54 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33617 10/brlcad/trunk/src/liboptical/material.c: still spell out the shader, fix extra arg. |
| 20:09.22 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33618 10/brlcad/trunk/src/liboptical/material.c: style ws consistency cleanup, comments |
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| 20:12.37 | brlcad | ~nslookup 128.220.159.20 |
| 20:14.34 | brlcad | hm, that's a hopkins ip |
| 20:14.50 | brlcad | ah! rob.. |
| 20:25.56 | brlcad | starseeker: did you figure out the compilation problem or still need help? |
| 20:26.08 | starseeker | well, figured out what was causing it |
| 20:26.10 | brlcad | from the glance at the log, libtool archive links weren't right |
| 20:26.13 | starseeker | not why it was causing it |
| 20:26.22 | starseeker | running the build from bash rather than tcsh worked |
| 20:26.44 | brlcad | hm |
| 20:26.52 | brlcad | did you rerun autogen.sh? |
| 20:26.57 | starseeker | yep |
| 20:27.03 | brlcad | still had same problem |
| 20:27.19 | starseeker | yep - only switching to bash and redoing everything fixed it |
| 20:27.48 | brlcad | k, well that's something then at least |
| 20:30.39 | brlcad | version of automake and libtool on that system? |
| 20:32.09 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33619 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_massprop.cpp: quell uninitialized warning since gcc4 is a little smarter figuring out that ON_SymTriDiag3x3EigenSolver does nothing |
| 20:32.25 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33620 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged_test.sh: Add a few more commands to the mged test. |
| 20:33.21 | starseeker | Hehe: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/eto_madness.png |
| 20:33.52 | brlcad | cool |
| 20:34.29 | d-lo | almost hurts the eyes.... |
| 20:34.38 | d-lo | what was the raytrace time on that? |
| 20:34.45 | starseeker | very fast, actually |
| 20:34.52 | starseeker | for that size anyway |
| 20:35.10 | starseeker | should make a carbon nanotube proc-db :-) |
| 20:35.28 | starseeker | should win the "completely pointless" award :-P |
| 20:36.03 | d-lo | make it render fast enough and it might make a cool screen saver! |
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| 20:39.33 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33621 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: dag nab it, still gotta fix and test the bit vectors with something that doesn't have the function call overhead nor rely on anything in common.h... |
| 20:39.57 | brlcad | mm, think I have a proper fix for that finally |
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| 22:40.50 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33622 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged_test.sh: add build_region, cp and mv to tests |
| 23:28.00 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33623 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged_test.sh: add 3ptarb arb make_bb cpi and mvall to tests |
| 23:28.32 | brlcad | wonders how bleak the tests are looking |
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| 23:29.14 | starseeker | haven't re-run it yet - one sec |
| 23:29.23 | starseeker | need new 7.12.6 control |
| 23:30.18 | Ralith | hey guys |
| 23:30.26 | brlcad | howdy Ralith |
| 23:30.58 | Ralith | so given some complex region/collection |
| 23:31.31 | starseeker | brlcad: Looks so far like just the expected fallout from the arbs and whatnot being different |
| 23:31.40 | brlcad | that's great |
| 23:31.41 | starseeker | at least, the failure areas could be accounted for by that |
| 23:31.51 | brlcad | if 'make' is the only thing different, that's not a show-stopper command |
| 23:32.06 | starseeker | interestingly, the sketch bounding box is different |
| 23:32.13 | Ralith | hm |
| 23:32.17 | Ralith | trying to think how to describe this |
| 23:32.21 | starseeker | that's a bit surprising - the sketch was a low level input |
| 23:32.42 | starseeker | still very very close to zero in all cases though |
| 23:32.47 | Ralith | perhaps I should start with my use case. |
| 23:33.37 | Ralith | For some forms of rapid prototyping, support material is required to allow production of surfaces which slope greater than 45 degrees away from vertical |
| 23:33.50 | Ralith | where 45 is really some odd number depending on conditions. |
| 23:34.07 | starseeker | hmm, grip bounding box changed too |
| 23:34.31 | Ralith | it seems to me that it *should* be fairly simple to computationally determine a region for this support material based on surface normals. |
| 23:34.58 | brlcad | sure, Ralith |
| 23:35.30 | Ralith | but nothing's coming to mind as to how to actually do it. |
| 23:35.35 | Ralith | thoughts? |
| 23:36.36 | brlcad | shoot a bunch of orthogonal rays, with each hit, you'll have a hit point and the normal at that point |
| 23:37.14 | brlcad | check the angle on each ray, if it fits the criteria, mark that region as needing support |
| 23:38.10 | Ralith | simple enough. I guess it'd be too hard to do it in a more elegant fashion? |
| 23:38.41 | Ralith | i.e. something that wouldn't reduce everything to a series of thin columns |
| 23:38.51 | Ralith | (not that that doesn't solve the problem) |
| 23:38.52 | brlcad | there's not any way that comes to mind where you could figure that out automatically for an arbitrary surface |
| 23:39.23 | brlcad | even one surface patch could have some sections that are within and some that aren't |
| 23:39.41 | Ralith | didn't think so. |
| 23:39.57 | Ralith | kk |
| 23:39.59 | Ralith | thanks |
| 23:49.00 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33624 10/brlcad/trunk/ (TODO include/bu.h): |
| 23:49.02 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: utilize CHAR_BIT from limits.h so that we can determine our shift size without |
| 23:49.04 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: relying on common.h/configure tests (since bu.h is a public header). this makes |
| 23:49.06 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: for bit vectors constructed from much smaller 8-bit blocks, but shows no |
| 23:49.08 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: appreciable difference on performance benchmarks (x86, 32-bit mac os x 10.4, |
| 23:49.18 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: gcc4) and specific large-bot testing. CHAR_BIT is POSIX, c99, and c90. |