IRC log for #brlcad on 20090203

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00:45.43 mafm night
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03:04.12 yukonbob hello, cadheads
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05:25.29 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33642 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (Makefile.am spring.c): Definitely NOT ready for prime time yet, but the rough outlines of a proc-db logic for spring generation are now working well enough to generate a reasonable looking pipe.
05:57.36 brlcad you started that back in 2008? :)
07:42.15 *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || GSoC 2008 Highlight: new prototype gui, check it out! || Source Release 7.14.2 release this week (20080202)
07:53.28 brlcad implodes
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08:19.56 ruskie erm...
08:20.34 ruskie brlcad, you sure you got the date on that right?
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08:30.39 Defcon Maloeran, still alive?
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11:52.36 brlquestions Hi everybody !
11:53.32 brlquestions Somebody listening ?
11:55.11 d-lo Most of the time, yes. If there isnt any response in the channel, just drop a question and check back later. Most all the Devs read the backlog
11:55.27 brlquestions OK thanks ...
11:55.37 brlquestions Here it is:
11:55.52 brlquestions I'm performing some sketch extrusion ...
11:56.08 brlquestions it seems to be a closed loop sketch.
11:56.28 brlquestions I verified that looking at the ascii code and checking all sketch nodes
11:56.42 brlquestions (beziers connected with arcs)
11:57.05 brlquestions after the extrusion I perform some volume boolean operations with other solids
11:57.25 brlquestions and after that it raytraces correctly but I can't export to STL with the
11:57.30 brlquestions following error message:
11:57.56 brlquestions rt_extrude_tess: A loop is not closed in sketch frontal
11:57.57 brlquestions tessellation failed!!
11:57.57 brlquestions nmg_booltree_leaf_tess(ext): tessellation failure
11:58.00 brlquestions <PROTECTED>
11:58.03 brlquestions 0 triangles written
11:58.13 brlquestions What can I do to ensure my sketch is closed ?
11:59.31 brlquestions Thank you very much in advance !
12:00.44 d-lo Well, brlcad himself will need to chime in on this when he wakes, but I would really need to see the sketch and the resultant .g file. dloman77@gmail.com if you want to have me take a look at it.
12:03.10 brlquestions OK thank you !
12:11.36 starseeker brlcad: er, no - copy/paste fails again
12:17.35 d-lo brlquestions: Took a look at the data, and it seems sound. I am wondering if tesselation/facetization is implemented for sketches and extrudes. If there is, there might be a bug since I was getting treewalk errors.
12:18.04 d-lo I can't help ya, but mebbe someone else can shed light on the subject. Its just barely morning here, so give it a few hours.
12:19.15 brlquestions OK thank you. So the data seems to be well connected is it correct ?
12:19.50 d-lo brlquestions: It looks correct, but I didn't go Vertex by Vertex. I don't have *that* much free time :)
12:20.22 brlquestions OK thank you again ... I'll wait for more opinions.
12:42.24 brlquestions After performing some additional checks and examples ...
12:42.43 brlquestions I found that loops made of arcs mixed with beziers and other arcs don't extrude
12:43.00 brlquestions well for the STL export routine.
12:43.30 brlquestions Closed beziers work well and also circles but not closed with arcs.
12:43.57 d-lo was this discovered via experimentation or documentation?
12:44.05 brlquestions experimentation ...
12:44.33 d-lo Ah, well then good to know. Will you still be able to complete what you set out to do?
12:45.14 brlquestions Sorry I didn't understand your last sentence ...
12:45.25 brlquestions can you reformulate your question ?
12:45.52 d-lo Will you be able to complete your project?
12:46.30 brlquestions I would like to combine arcs with beziers in sketches beeing extruded ...
12:46.48 brlquestions anyway I can recompute arcs as beziers to join them together ...
12:47.17 brlquestions but it would imply many development hours ...
12:47.47 brlquestions I was thinking also if maybe it has to do with order in which entities are
12:47.52 brlquestions posted into the sketch ...
12:48.27 brlquestions like joining two arcs between points 13 and 14 / 14 and 13 or 13 and 14 ...
12:52.50 starseeker d-lo: when does training start?
12:55.32 d-lo starseeker: The security thingy?
12:55.39 starseeker yeah
12:56.07 d-lo My calendar says 1300
12:56.12 starseeker k - thanks
12:56.23 d-lo np
12:56.35 starseeker will hit gym this morning then
13:01.25 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33643 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/spring.c: Uh, yeah, didn't start this in 2008 (thanks Sean)
13:12.56 ruskie hmm brlcad or anyone else... can itcl 4 be used instead of 3.3?
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14:08.21 ``Erik_ sweet, 7.14.2 was released a year ago, we're getting so good, we release before we start!
14:14.58 ``Erik bleh, all cuz some fuckwit had to ask how they'd know we were there *sigh*
14:56.26 brlcad ruskie: heh, I guess not
14:58.37 Defcon- hey brlcad :)
14:58.42 Defcon- long to no C
14:58.53 Defcon- have you heard of maloeran lately?
14:59.25 brlcad Defcon-: define lately
14:59.25 Defcon- also, time*
14:59.30 Defcon- last 6 months
14:59.33 brlcad had lunch with him a few months back
14:59.49 brlcad probably about 4-5 months ago
15:00.09 Defcon- hmm
15:00.16 Defcon- and in here?
15:00.30 Defcon- or by other means of communication?
15:00.35 brlcad brlquestions: that sounds like a bug in the extrude tessellation routine, can you make a tracker item for it?
15:00.54 brlcad tessellation support was just added the last release, so bugs were bound to be there
15:01.16 brlcad Defcon-: erhm, lunch as in sitting next to him eating lunch :)
15:01.27 Defcon- yeah :)
15:01.36 Defcon- but more recently ?
15:01.40 brlcad ~seen malorean
15:01.42 ibot brlcad: i haven't seen 'malorean'
15:02.03 Defcon- Maloeran is in the channel
15:02.19 Defcon- ~seen Maloeran
15:02.20 ibot maloeran is currently on #brlcad (7d 9h 29m 35s), last said: 'Hey Hal'.
15:02.41 Defcon- last said: 'Hey Hal'. <== when was that?
15:03.07 Defcon- ~seen Defcon
15:03.08 ibot defcon <i=defcon@mail.cavale.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 6h 32m 29s ago, saying: 'Maloeran, still alive?'.
15:03.14 Axman6 how long's ibot been around?
15:03.15 Defcon- hmm lol
15:04.00 brlcad I talked to him in here a couple months ago more recently
15:04.04 brlcad but it wasn't an in-depth talk
15:04.29 Defcon- he is a busy man indeed..
15:07.11 Defcon- but, his personal project (codename: Kingdoms) is on hold for about 6 months now..
15:07.20 Defcon- maybe he forgot about it :)
15:08.31 brlcad probably just busy
15:08.35 brlcad or bored
15:08.45 Defcon- probably busy
15:08.55 Defcon- he was really looking forward to the project
15:09.04 Defcon- so it seemd
15:11.11 ``Erik O.o
15:12.23 Defcon- ◕_◕
17:17.24 brlquestions brlcad: Just posted the issue on sourceforge tracker ... thanks everybody !
17:17.28 brlquestions bye !
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17:20.02 brlcad nice
17:20.13 brlcad bets john will investigate
17:43.11 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33644 10/jbrlcad/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Updated to use jscience (instaed of jade)
18:52.03 ``Erik nice "I think I've just spent the last 14 hours in emacs and barely noticed the day is over. *gushgush*..." "I bet whatever you were doing in emacs for 14 hours I could have done in 5 minutes with Vim ;)" "how does it take you 5 minutes to start vim?"
18:55.24 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33645 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/numerics/BoundingBox.java: renamed some variables that were hiding fields
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19:11.42 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33646 10/rt^3/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Combined DataInputStream, DataOutputStream, and ByteBag into a new class: DataStream
19:24.35 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33647 10/rt^3/trunk/src/ (GeometryEngine/Makefile.am iBME/Makefile.am): Modified makefiles for DataStreamTest.
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20:38.29 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33648 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged_test.sh: Add remainder of editing geometry commands from card, with the exception of eqn - need a way to select a face to work on that doesn't need the graphical menu.
20:39.12 brlcad starseeker: the press command
20:40.37 starseeker how do I supply the deep submenu to press as an argument?
20:42.29 starseeker oh, I see
20:45.42 starseeker still doesn't work - that menu press pops up a dialog
20:47.22 starseeker wow, for a command line command this is heavily tied to the graphics
21:06.58 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33649 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (gtools/g_qa.c libged/gqa.c): Tweak the usage message and the message complaining about the missing density data.
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21:46.01 CIA-32 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33650 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/chgmodel.c: Fixed bug/typo in f_make (i.e. the problem was that things were set up to use av, but av was never used).
22:03.17 yukonbob !ha -- did anybody read the story about comcast inadvertantly (?) broadcasting ~30s porn during the superbowl to some subscribers?
22:44.11 starseeker wonders if they gained or lost business because of that...
23:07.15 ``Erik it was only in tuscon and was only dude junk, so... well, it was during football, which is awfully homoerotic to begin with, so who knows
23:09.38 ``Erik "superb owl porn" hah
23:10.46 smurfette why are you looking up owl porn?
23:11.22 starseeker doesn't want to know...
23:12.04 ``Erik there's a smacksnot story about the superbowl porn incident, and one of the comments was "what's wrong with superb owl porn?"
23:12.05 ``Erik :D
23:12.56 smurfette mmmmhmmmm
23:13.02 smurfette worries about erik
23:13.07 ``Erik YARLY!
23:13.13 smurfette ;p
23:13.28 ``Erik all your owl are belong to my penor O.o and other failed internet memes.
23:13.45 smurfette nerd
23:32.06 yukonbob I for one welcome our superb owl porn overlords.
23:32.44 starseeker has never heard the presidential election described quite that way ;-)
23:33.26 ``Erik it's a hoot </horriblepun>

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