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| 09:06.30 | Dr_Phreakenstein | hello brlcad! |
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| 12:02.40 | d-lo | yawns. |
| 12:02.54 | d-lo | Bitter cold and snowy morning to all! |
| 12:03.22 | archivist | stop whining about the snow :) |
| 12:03.59 | d-lo | Don't mind the snow, its the nasty 30 mph wind that I don't like :) |
| 12:04.04 | alex_joni | nice warm and sunny here |
| 12:04.28 | d-lo | Really tested the CCA on the Jeep's Battery this morning, lol. |
| 12:04.41 | d-lo | alex_joni: Email me some 'warm and sunny' please! |
| 12:04.50 | archivist | press is over dramatising the snow here in the UK |
| 12:05.50 | d-lo | archivist: I take it that you too deal with, "ZOMG, 5cm of show... ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!" ? |
| 12:06.21 | archivist | hehe yea |
| 12:07.02 | d-lo | Last week, we got a 'dusting'... seriously < 1mm snow... and they shutdown all public and private schools for 2 hours.... |
| 12:07.06 | archivist | Ive offered to go fetch a customer who was going to come today |
| 12:07.12 | d-lo | lol |
| 12:07.25 | d-lo | now *THATS* customer service. |
| 12:07.44 | Dr_Phreakenstein | business must be bad to need customers *that* much |
| 12:07.45 | Dr_Phreakenstein | ;) |
| 12:07.46 | archivist | he was the president of a car club, he is a wimp |
| 12:08.06 | Dr_Phreakenstein | now if he was pres of 4wd club.. |
| 12:08.11 | d-lo | fancy shmancy cars? |
| 12:08.14 | Dr_Phreakenstein | no problem for him |
| 12:08.23 | d-lo | Dr_Phreakenstein: Exactly what I was thinking. |
| 12:08.28 | archivist | hehe tha would be funny, he does own a Freelander |
| 12:09.28 | d-lo | well, to be fair, most (if not all) mainstream SUV's aren't designed to handle any offroading any more :/ |
| 12:09.42 | d-lo | Landrover probably has a better rep than most, but still. |
| 12:10.49 | Dr_Phreakenstein | true |
| 12:11.01 | archivist | takes some snow to stop a Series 3 Landrover I had some fun years ago |
| 12:11.42 | Dr_Phreakenstein | (Dr_Phreakenstein cannot remember seeing a dirty SUV recently) |
| 12:11.55 | archivist | bent a wing going flat out into a snow drift, we pulled it straight and carried on |
| 12:12.43 | Dr_Phreakenstein | I remember passing people in the snow, while driving my valiant with bald tires, dead suspension |
| 12:12.59 | Dr_Phreakenstein | actual 4wd and awd suvs |
| 12:13.04 | d-lo | for instance, I come from a 'Jeep' family. My most recent Jeep is a '08 Patriot... a bit more 'smooth ride' than 'rough and tough', but still a good car.... I took it on the small dirt/snow hills in my housing development last week and had nearlyt all my neighbors staring in awe. My thought is, "Its a Jeep silly, what did you expect me to do with it?" |
| 12:13.19 | Dr_Phreakenstein | no kidding |
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| 12:13.30 | archivist | yup go out and enjoy |
| 12:13.52 | csanyipal | howdy |
| 12:13.56 | Dr_Phreakenstein | although, my caravan has also proven off-road worthy |
| 12:13.57 | csanyipal | Howdy! |
| 12:14.00 | Dr_Phreakenstein | howdy! |
| 12:14.14 | d-lo | On a different note, when ever I see a full size truck or nice SUV 'pimped out' with windows, rims and a stereo.... I get very angry. |
| 12:14.30 | Dr_Phreakenstein | just gotta watch out for that pesky ABS controller |
| 12:14.33 | d-lo | Howdy csanyipal |
| 12:14.33 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yeah... |
| 12:14.41 | Dr_Phreakenstein | you cannot put chains on those |
| 12:14.48 | d-lo | Caravan... as in Dodge Caravan? |
| 12:14.52 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yup |
| 12:15.02 | d-lo | What year? I love those vans :) |
| 12:15.07 | Dr_Phreakenstein | 2000 |
| 12:15.14 | Dr_Phreakenstein | 36.3 flex |
| 12:15.18 | Dr_Phreakenstein | 3.3 |
| 12:15.30 | d-lo | Nice. We have an '03 and I love how easy the maintenance is on the 3.3 :) |
| 12:15.41 | Dr_Phreakenstein | they are the best |
| 12:15.56 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i will always buy them, too easy to fix |
| 12:16.13 | Dr_Phreakenstein | as long as you do not have to access rear cyl bank, as for plugs |
| 12:16.39 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i put some 100k mile bosch plugs on there, so no problem for a while |
| 12:17.16 | d-lo | heh, well, I draw the line maintenance like that. Too time intensive for me. Easier to drop it off and wait a day while someone else deals with that. |
| 12:17.36 | Dr_Phreakenstein | installed class III hitch, HD shocks, prodigy electronic brake controller |
| 12:17.49 | d-lo | Alternator, belts, plugs, breaks.. (basically the easy stuff) is what I tend to do myself. |
| 12:17.53 | d-lo | What do you pull with it? |
| 12:18.04 | Dr_Phreakenstein | switch to valvoline P/N vv935 oil |
| 12:18.23 | Dr_Phreakenstein | going to WA to get some stuff from Grizzly |
| 12:18.39 | d-lo | Grizzly = ? |
| 12:18.40 | Dr_Phreakenstein | Milling machine and sheet metal shear |
| 12:18.55 | d-lo | ah, Heavy Metal :) |
| 12:19.07 | Dr_Phreakenstein | http://www.grizzly.com/products/9-x-32-Gear-Head-Mill-Drill-with-Stand/G0484 |
| 12:19.44 | archivist | expects EMC2 on it in a while |
| 12:20.04 | d-lo | Buy or lease? |
| 12:20.17 | Dr_Phreakenstein | http://www.grizzly.com/products/52-16-Gauge-Foot-Shear/T20797 |
| 12:20.19 | Dr_Phreakenstein | buy |
| 12:20.30 | d-lo | nice, whats the Price Tag on a bachine like that? |
| 12:20.35 | Dr_Phreakenstein | archivist :) |
| 12:20.47 | Dr_Phreakenstein | shear, 1200 |
| 12:21.07 | Dr_Phreakenstein | mill 2000 |
| 12:21.09 | d-lo | nice 1/2 ton. No problem! lol |
| 12:21.32 | d-lo | Use for Business or hobby? |
| 12:21.37 | Dr_Phreakenstein | also some small misc stuff, arbor press, tooling, etc |
| 12:21.44 | Dr_Phreakenstein | 110 systems, llc |
| 12:22.13 | d-lo | as in 110V electricity? |
| 12:22.25 | Dr_Phreakenstein | actually, my cousing has designed a cnc controller and software, so i will be suing that |
| 12:22.39 | Dr_Phreakenstein | actually, name was picked from when we did email |
| 12:22.43 | Dr_Phreakenstein | port 110 |
| 12:22.51 | d-lo | nice :) |
| 12:22.58 | Dr_Phreakenstein | also 110 punchdown, as in low-volt wiring |
| 12:23.10 | d-lo | 'cause I was going to point out that the Mill Grill is 220V ;) |
| 12:23.22 | Dr_Phreakenstein | :) |
| 12:23.38 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yes, but that is in lieu of 440 3 ph |
| 12:24.06 | Dr_Phreakenstein | the power company will accept 3 easy payments of $5000 to hook it up |
| 12:24.17 | Dr_Phreakenstein | 220 is easier to find |
| 12:24.29 | Dr_Phreakenstein | as in make my wife wait to use the dryer |
| 12:24.54 | d-lo | is not a big fan of 440/450/480V.... took 500Vdc though the heart when I was in the Navy.... I still get a bit shy when doing ANY electrical work, lol. |
| 12:25.07 | Dr_Phreakenstein | fair enough |
| 12:25.09 | d-lo | 3 easy payments eh? LOL. |
| 12:25.37 | Dr_Phreakenstein | oh, and that only brings power to the bottom of the pole |
| 12:25.53 | d-lo | Start asking around to see if anyone carries a 220V '6-strip' and see what kind of looks you get :) |
| 12:25.53 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i still have to dig trench, do panel, meter, etc in premise |
| 12:26.07 | d-lo | save cost... don't install a meter :) |
| 12:26.18 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i like your style |
| 12:26.39 | Dr_Phreakenstein | just get some mueller alligator clips on the pole |
| 12:27.07 | Dr_Phreakenstein | (remember to use fiberglass ladder for that job) |
| 12:27.40 | d-lo | Well, I *WAS* going to suggest building a ghetto Current Transformer by looping some insulated cable around the power lines :) You can claim that they weren't using the Magnetic field anyways and that you are 'recycling' of sorts :) |
| 12:27.57 | Dr_Phreakenstein | hmmm.... |
| 12:28.02 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i have heard of this |
| 12:28.38 | Dr_Phreakenstein | also, it would give me a more reasonable voltage, albeit a little light on the current |
| 12:29.11 | d-lo | I have done it with 110V in the house... but it was more of a "Hrm, can I build a Current Sensor with a wire and a Voltmeter" |
| 12:29.36 | Dr_Phreakenstein | the method that i like is to get in as the prototype machine shop in a startup company... free rent and electricity |
| 12:29.47 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i know 2 shops that do that |
| 12:30.15 | d-lo | Excellent angle.... never thought about that. |
| 12:30.22 | d-lo | Nothing beats free. |
| 12:30.29 | Dr_Phreakenstein | :) |
| 12:30.53 | Dr_Phreakenstein | found APC UPSs at the local metal scrapper... |
| 12:31.02 | Dr_Phreakenstein | $12.50 apiece |
| 12:31.03 | d-lo | So, what kind of products/services does your company provide? |
| 12:31.06 | Dr_Phreakenstein | 1500 VA |
| 12:31.09 | d-lo | ..still functional? |
| 12:31.15 | Dr_Phreakenstein | what do you need? |
| 12:31.22 | Dr_Phreakenstein | I have a forklift for sale |
| 12:31.25 | d-lo | just curious. |
| 12:31.25 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yes |
| 12:31.42 | Dr_Phreakenstein | got it at HP machine shop auction |
| 12:31.43 | d-lo | lol, now the wife would really hate me if I brought home a forklift. lol |
| 12:31.59 | Dr_Phreakenstein | why do you think I am selling mine |
| 12:32.00 | Dr_Phreakenstein | :) |
| 12:32.04 | d-lo | She grimaces everytime I tell her I am swinging by Home Depot.... |
| 12:32.10 | Dr_Phreakenstein | lol |
| 12:32.17 | Dr_Phreakenstein | nice |
| 12:32.28 | Dr_Phreakenstein | we have an industrial wholesaler here... |
| 12:32.49 | d-lo | I could probably justify it by saying a forklist will facilitate moving the furnature around easier.... (and make it MUCH more fun) |
| 12:32.53 | d-lo | hrm...... |
| 12:33.29 | Dr_Phreakenstein | I did not know it would take so long, but my wife and kids waited an hour while I bought nuts and bolts one day... in bulk it took them 35 minutes to ring me up |
| 12:33.42 | Dr_Phreakenstein | she may go for a pallet jack |
| 12:33.50 | d-lo | bah, I am saving for a Deck... can't swing a forklift right now :( |
| 12:34.09 | Dr_Phreakenstein | then, when that proves insufficient, you can justify the upgrade |
| 12:34.23 | d-lo | Personally, I always thought one of those selfpropelled cherry pickers would be a blast. |
| 12:34.24 | Dr_Phreakenstein | oh, but i can sell it so cheap! |
| 12:34.27 | d-lo | lol |
| 12:34.33 | Dr_Phreakenstein | they are |
| 12:34.41 | Dr_Phreakenstein | careful not to tip |
| 12:34.50 | d-lo | shipping would be a bitch though :) You're West Coast USA? |
| 12:34.58 | Dr_Phreakenstein | oregon, yes |
| 12:35.19 | Dr_Phreakenstein | it is on my dad's truck right now, I could swing by your location |
| 12:35.21 | d-lo | wonders if there is a Guiness Record for driving cross-country in a forklift.... |
| 12:35.27 | Dr_Phreakenstein | :) |
| 12:35.46 | Dr_Phreakenstein | um, with it's electric battery, not sure about that one |
| 12:36.12 | d-lo | Solar panels and craftsman gennies baby... yeah! |
| 12:36.20 | Dr_Phreakenstein | hey, but you could make a wicked UPS with a 24 v, 1120 AH battery |
| 12:37.03 | Dr_Phreakenstein | that sounds efficient as can be |
| 12:37.34 | d-lo | UPS's are only good to hold the line voltage and current whilst the 'ballsy Diesel' back up gennie fires up on UV start :) |
| 12:38.02 | d-lo | I *almost* have my wife sold on a multi-fuel back up gennie for the house. |
| 12:38.03 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yes, but this could hold line voltage for your neighborhood |
| 12:38.05 | d-lo | ..almost. |
| 12:38.21 | Dr_Phreakenstein | hmmm |
| 12:38.29 | d-lo | I figure, 1 or 2 more sustaned power outtages will sway her. |
| 12:38.44 | Dr_Phreakenstein | tell her you will bury it underground to make it quieter |
| 12:38.52 | Dr_Phreakenstein | that can be arranged... |
| 12:38.52 | d-lo | lol |
| 12:38.54 | Dr_Phreakenstein | ;) |
| 12:39.15 | d-lo | Oh, we are in a new development, so the retarded 'low wage' workers knock out power quite regularly. |
| 12:39.29 | d-lo | I laugh heartly every time it happens. |
| 12:39.38 | Dr_Phreakenstein | nice |
| 12:40.27 | d-lo | its kind of funny to look outside and see a 15 ton CAT front loader backed over a transformer enclosure with 4 workers standing 50 ft away, just staring. |
| 12:40.56 | Dr_Phreakenstein | ...oops... |
| 12:41.26 | d-lo | Once i was assured that no one got hurt, I just laughed and laughed. |
| 12:41.49 | Dr_Phreakenstein | wonders if that is as funny as seeing D-10 cat on it's side next to a HETT, and an 88m doing pushups in the ditch |
| 12:42.11 | d-lo | lol |
| 12:42.58 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i sure laughed (once I was out of earshot of her leadership, yes, her) |
| 12:43.14 | d-lo | now thats funny. |
| 12:43.52 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i even returned to take a picture, but i could not get there until after PT, and it was up by then |
| 12:44.06 | d-lo | I work with a guy who was ex-Army, I forget his MOS, but his primary role was HETT and HEMMIT(spelling?) mechanic.... oh man, the stories he has... |
| 12:44.16 | Dr_Phreakenstein | 2 88 wreckers will lift anything in a hurry |
| 12:44.25 | Dr_Phreakenstein | HEMMT |
| 12:44.30 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i bet |
| 12:44.36 | d-lo | righto, thanks. |
| 12:44.46 | Dr_Phreakenstein | drove one once |
| 12:45.03 | d-lo | I got used to 10 years of Navy acronyms and then switched up and joined the Army as a civ.... whole new world lol. |
| 12:45.34 | d-lo | drove? I was impressed enough with riding in one. |
| 12:45.56 | Dr_Phreakenstein | I was new to army, and they needed people to drive vehicles onto a train car. so they gave me a license for everything in the motorpool, minus forklift |
| 12:46.17 | Dr_Phreakenstein | ironically, a forklift was all that i had ever been trained on... |
| 12:46.40 | Dr_Phreakenstein | so, there was this sea of armored vehicles... |
| 12:47.06 | Dr_Phreakenstein | I soon tired of APCs and HMMWVs, so i tried other stuff |
| 12:47.15 | d-lo | my current favorite military vehicle: |
| 12:47.21 | d-lo | http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/land_mrap_img_maxxpro_cat-1_final_lg.jpg |
| 12:47.48 | Dr_Phreakenstein | Bradley... 88, HEMMT, LMTV, LMTV with tractor-trailer, and some other stuff |
| 12:47.54 | Dr_Phreakenstein | nice |
| 12:48.25 | Dr_Phreakenstein | those are nice to ride in, even nicer to drive |
| 12:48.36 | Dr_Phreakenstein | I am a big International fan |
| 12:48.58 | d-lo | Of all the Army vehicles, the IMG MAXXPRO is the only one I have a lot of experience with... and me likes :) If I could get one for home, I would. |
| 12:49.08 | Dr_Phreakenstein | actually, my Yale forklift is sitting on a 1970 International Loadstar 1800 |
| 12:49.24 | d-lo | "Oh, so you want to tailgate me? Let me just perform a brake check." |
| 12:49.35 | Dr_Phreakenstein | the good ole 113 is kinda fun, if you have one in good shape |
| 12:49.56 | d-lo | bah, I need to work now :/ |
| 12:50.01 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yeah, maxpro stops alright |
| 12:50.09 | Dr_Phreakenstein | one more thing |
| 12:50.42 | Dr_Phreakenstein | look into installing sach's "nivomat" suspension in your van |
| 12:51.08 | Dr_Phreakenstein | you can get it online for about 250 per shock (rear only) |
| 12:51.38 | Dr_Phreakenstein | wish i new about it before getting those monroe shocks i got... not bad, but self-levelling is the best |
| 12:51.50 | d-lo | nivomat eh? |
| 12:51.52 | Dr_Phreakenstein | available with factory tow package, too |
| 12:51.56 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yup |
| 12:51.56 | d-lo | I'll look it up. |
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| 12:52.26 | Dr_Phreakenstein | send me phreak@110mail.com and i will send you p/n and links |
| 12:53.03 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i gotta sleep. |
| 12:53.44 | Dr_Phreakenstein | gotta wake up in 2 hrs for class, then install wiring for trailer and get up at 4 tomorrow for 6 hr drive to bellingham WA |
| 12:54.41 | d-lo | k, you sleep. I'll ask the wife about the forklift :) |
| 12:54.43 | d-lo | lol |
| 12:55.41 | Dr_Phreakenstein | :) |
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| 15:27.40 | Jose` | WELL GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY! |
| 15:27.53 | Jose` | I HAVE COME TO SPREAD CHEERS! |
| 15:28.00 | Jose` | AND PRESENTS! |
| 15:28.05 | Jose` | AND CANDIES! |
| 15:28.26 | Jose` | BUTT FIRST YOU MUST PAY THE FIDDLER!! |
| 15:28.34 | Jose` | THEN WE CAN ALL HAVE BUTT SECKS |
| 15:28.47 | Jose` | YAY! |
| 15:28.52 | Jose` | <3 |
| 15:29.50 | Jose` | OOPS WRONG CHANNEL SORRY ABOUT THAT :( |
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| 15:35.49 | ``Erik | heh |
| 15:36.33 | ``Erik | should get himself one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDoy9S82ETA |
| 15:36.43 | d-lo | If it was the wrong channel, why hasn't he left yet? |
| 15:37.19 | d-lo | ``Erik: Wont that *ensure* your ability to get to work on snow days? |
| 15:37.27 | ``Erik | yes |
| 15:37.49 | ``Erik | and any damn other place I wanted to go |
| 15:37.50 | ``Erik | :D |
| 15:37.57 | d-lo | lol |
| 15:38.09 | ``Erik | "what? curb? I didn't feel a curb, occifer" |
| 15:39.07 | d-lo | I wonder what people would be thinking when they are coming out of Best Buy and see that buggy parked on top of their car.... with you walking away from it while enabling the car alarm... Chirp Chirp! |
| 15:39.32 | ``Erik | heh, that'd be awesome getting one of those up on 4 cars, one wheel on each roof |
| 15:39.37 | ``Erik | especially if they were all suv's :D |
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| 15:53.56 | Gary | ya, sorry |
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| 19:32.06 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: with something else later (i.e. no time at the moment). |
| 19:38.50 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33677 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged_test.sh: Add tests for kill commands on Quick Reference Card |
| 19:42.46 | d-lo | heh, looks like that media wiki CIA addon works :) |
| 20:20.31 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33678 10/rt^3/trunk/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Continuing work for gsph0. gsph0 now communicating with gsph0_test during Hostname exchange and new session request. |
| 20:23.38 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33679 10/rt^3/trunk/src/tests/java/ (8 files): Continuing work for gsph0_Test. gsph0_Test now communicating with gsph0 during Hostname exchange and new session request. |
| 20:24.58 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33680 10/rt^3/trunk/src/iBME/testing.g: Simple example .g for file transfer testing. |
| 20:26.52 | ``Erik | brlcad, *ping* |
| 20:33.01 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33681 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/cut.c: darwin doesn't seem to like pointers to stack addresses in library functions being dereferenced, so malloc() (and free) the cutter geometry (fixes bus fault). |
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| 22:26.40 | brlcad | ``Erik: points to stack data should be just fine on darwin -- perhaps stack corruption |
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| 23:18.33 | ``Erik | hrm, it's two function calls that don't do jack iwth the stack, when I put it through the debugger, it looks like a reasonable address (and consistant) |
| 23:18.59 | ``Erik | and it's a bus fault, not a seg fault, which is odd in itself |
| 23:19.30 | brlcad | mm |
| 23:19.33 | brlcad | i still don't buy it |
| 23:19.46 | ``Erik | *shrug* that change made the problem go away, mebbe I'll explore it a bit later |
| 23:19.54 | brlcad | those are simple floats in an array on the stack |
| 23:20.23 | ``Erik | yeah, with a few levels of indirection in the mix... it sees into the first pointer ok, btu the second is inaccessable |
| 23:20.32 | starseeker | brlcad: should I incorporate the existing mged regression testing into what I'm doing or do you want to keep it as its own routine? |
| 23:20.39 | brlcad | there should be no problem passing around pointers to that -- maybe somewhere it gets cast to the wrong pointer type, like a bad double/triple pointer cast |
| 23:20.43 | ``Erik | I d'no, if I decide to think about it, mebbe I'll revert it and step through it |
| 23:20.55 | brlcad | that'd be something that might turn out fine on some environments |
| 23:21.07 | brlcad | depending on the alignment |
| 23:21.17 | ``Erik | given that it uses the same type everywhere along the path, and it's nicely aligned, I 'dno about that |
| 23:21.36 | brlcad | starseeker: what are you doing? |
| 23:21.38 | ``Erik | unless there're some funky compile option differences between the various libs |
| 23:22.13 | ``Erik | if I think about it between now and tomorrow, I'll try stepping it to see what's up *shrug* |
| 23:22.21 | brlcad | *shrug* |
| 23:22.28 | brlcad | looked like it was during prep, so not a big issue |
| 23:22.34 | ``Erik | yup |
| 23:22.35 | starseeker | brlcad: The mged/libged regression testing - should I just suck the stuff you did to test mged command functionality into one big mged test, or did you want to retain your routine as a separate entity? |
| 23:22.37 | brlcad | but just don't think it's a darwin thing |
| 23:22.49 | ``Erik | that's the only place it exhibited itself |
| 23:23.03 | brlcad | starseeker: AH, the "other" existing mged regression testing |
| 23:23.07 | starseeker | right |
| 23:23.31 | brlcad | nah, leave it alone unless you have a compelling reason to join them |
| 23:23.43 | starseeker | ok. |
| 23:23.54 | starseeker | was just wanting to steal the mged.sh name ;-) |
| 23:23.56 | brlcad | the tests don't need to be elegant, they're overhead code -- the less maintenance the better |
| 23:24.34 | brlcad | whatever suits your fancy then :) |
| 23:24.42 | starseeker | ok |
| 23:24.59 | starseeker | is thinking this will be ready to hook in in a few days... |
| 23:25.13 | starseeker | assuming my vim editing speed increases somewhat |
| 23:26.00 | brlcad | I'd be inclined to make all those sections you have into individual files, source them in and run a function or exec them directly |
| 23:26.35 | brlcad | just think how fast you'd be by now if you had a powerful scriptable environment at your fingertips with the same investment of effort ;) |
| 23:26.58 | starseeker | heh |
| 23:27.16 | brlcad | are the tests looking grim or green? |
| 23:27.37 | starseeker | not too bad so far - I haven't actually run a 7.12.6 benchmark in a bit |
| 23:27.43 | starseeker | me relinks and re-runs... |
| 23:28.07 | brlcad | gave bob time to tweak, releasing either tomorrow or saturday |
| 23:28.31 | brlcad | going to press really hard to keep to a release by the 7th |
| 23:28.32 | starseeker | he's squashed a few bugs already - the make spewing errors was a biggie |
| 23:31.00 | starseeker | nods |
| 23:36.51 | starseeker | auugh, why do I get a bus error now |
| 23:42.28 | yukonbob | brlcad: plate full of bugs? |
| 23:42.35 | yukonbob | s/bugs/tickets/ |
| 23:44.52 | brlcad | yukonbob: yeah, there are too many tickets, none getting closed out |
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| 23:56.32 | starseeker | hmm, well autoview, saveview, loadview, ps, and plot are now suddenly causing bus errors |
