00:04.36 |
brlcad |
starseeker: just caught one of the first
commits from today -- the *_LIBRARY_PATH foo you're using won't
work |
00:04.53 |
starseeker |
hmm. OK |
00:04.56 |
brlcad |
those are read by the linker before/while a
binary is being loaded |
00:05.18 |
starseeker |
was basing it off the sh
scripts |
00:05.28 |
brlcad |
if you're running the tclsh that got you to
those set env()'s then you're not on a platform/environment that
needed them set in the first place |
00:05.39 |
brlcad |
yep, they set it *before* the binary is
called |
00:05.57 |
starseeker |
I thought I was too |
00:06.00 |
starseeker |
looks again |
00:06.15 |
brlcad |
I'm looking at tcl code.. |
00:06.23 |
brlcad |
if it's running tcl code, then it doesn't
matter |
00:06.32 |
starseeker |
oh, point |
00:06.33 |
brlcad |
because tclsh is running |
00:06.36 |
starseeker |
k |
00:06.44 |
brlcad |
ld is done with its job |
00:07.09 |
brlcad |
there is an old hack you can use, though -- a
script that doubles as both a shell and tcl script -- old
trick |
00:08.06 |
brlcad |
look at src/tclscripts/ami.tcl to see an
example -- it's a shell script that can be invoked as either a
shell script or a tcl script |
00:08.27 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33724
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/mged.tcl: Remove env logic - won't
work inside tclsh |
00:08.28 |
brlcad |
actually better example |
00:08.33 |
brlcad |
look at src/archer/archer |
00:08.42 |
brlcad |
that even sets env vars and
reinvokes |
00:09.40 |
brlcad |
the "trick" is because tcl and sh handle
line-comments differently, with sh ignoring comment continuations
and tcl not ignoring them |
00:10.54 |
starseeker |
blast - I was hoping staying completely within
tcl land would avoid the need for shell scripting, and let us run
these on Windows |
00:11.37 |
brlcad |
it would run on windows |
00:11.56 |
brlcad |
they work as tcl scripts -- and on windows
you're not going to have an LD error |
00:12.09 |
starseeker |
ah |
00:12.20 |
brlcad |
fed through tclsh, it'll ignore the shell
lines |
00:13.19 |
brlcad |
for the nix platforms, they can either be fed
through sh (which will read the sh lines, set *_LIBRARY_PATH
accordingly, and then reinvoke as tcl) or push the LD wrapping back
up into make (like src/tclscripts/Makefile.am does for
ami.tcl) |
00:13.46 |
starseeker |
Hmm. What's the preferred way? |
00:14.15 |
brlcad |
probably to push it up into the
Makefile.am |
00:14.22 |
brlcad |
keeps the scripts more simple like you have
them |
00:14.28 |
brlcad |
rather, even more so |
00:15.12 |
brlcad |
if it really gets messier than the three lines
it takes now, you could wrap the whole thing in a script
anyways |
00:15.42 |
starseeker |
nods |
00:15.54 |
starseeker |
I'll give the Makefile.am way a quick
go |
00:16.43 |
brlcad |
see if mged works for you though .. don't have
a clean build here, but if that's a prevalent bug, that'd require
an emergency fix and release of 7.14.6 |
00:17.58 |
starseeker |
let me check |
00:18.26 |
starseeker |
what command is it accepting? |
00:18.33 |
brlcad |
anything and everything |
00:18.36 |
brlcad |
sdlfakjhsdlkj |
00:18.53 |
starseeker |
yeah - I don't know if it's doing anything
with them but it is accepting them |
00:19.20 |
brlcad |
nope, nothing works afaict |
00:19.22 |
starseeker |
I take it it should be flashing the error
about no db being open? |
00:19.23 |
brlcad |
opendb test.g |
00:19.33 |
brlcad |
every command fails |
00:19.39 |
starseeker |
same here |
00:19.40 |
brlcad |
rather .. does nothing |
00:19.51 |
brlcad |
okay, that's pretty critical |
00:20.04 |
starseeker |
hrm - libged related? |
00:20.23 |
brlcad |
don't know but highly possible |
00:20.30 |
starseeker |
oh great |
00:20.44 |
starseeker |
starts digging in
src/mged |
00:21.08 |
brlcad |
pulls the source
uploads |
00:24.48 |
brlcad |
arf, have to do a 7.14.4 as soon as that's
fixed |
00:32.42 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33725
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/Makefile.am: Move the path logic to
Makefile.am where it will actually work (thanks Sean) |
00:36.53 |
starseeker |
hmm - ged_refresh_handler calls
refresh... |
00:40.53 |
starseeker |
OK, it never gets as far as calling f_quit
when I type quit, so its messed up before that... |
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00:51.26 |
starseeker |
brlcad: Ick - this is one of those right on
the border between Tcl and C |
00:51.36 |
starseeker |
it's getting to refresh |
00:51.57 |
andrecastelo |
howdy :D |
00:52.19 |
starseeker |
howdy :-) |
01:22.08 |
starseeker |
brlcad: right now, my best guess is that it
has something to do with gedp->ged_gdp->gd_rtCmdNotify being
set to mged_rtCmdNotify when a file is loaded, but not without a
file loaded (since gedp doesn't point to a structure) |
01:31.59 |
starseeker |
If I do the naive thing and initialize a ged
struct with a pointer to NULL, it starts up in classic mode and
doesn't correctly handle anything. |
01:32.29 |
starseeker |
perhaps ged has some sort of built in
assumption about a database being open before processing
commands? |
01:34.01 |
starseeker |
in src/mged/mged.c lines 657-680 is where
mged_rtCmdNotify is being assigned |
01:34.16 |
starseeker |
or not assigned, as the case may be |
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02:57.45 |
Mouette |
so,these problems still haven't solution in
solaris platform? |
03:06.43 |
Mouette |
7.14.2 sourcecode in sourceforge.net is
disappear!!!! @@ |
03:11.21 |
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03:54.04 |
starseeker |
Mouette: We found a problem that needs
fixing |
03:56.52 |
Mouette |
so you delete that sourcecode? |
03:57.04 |
starseeker |
brlcad took it down, I believe |
03:57.20 |
starseeker |
you can still get the source code from svn, if
you want it - but it's busted right now |
03:57.54 |
Mouette |
no, i like wait stable version |
04:00.02 |
brlcad |
Mouette: I disabled it, though I believe the
direct link is still valid if you had it -- there's a problem with
it so it was disabled |
04:02.35 |
brlcad |
starseeker: I've not looked, but the problem
almost guaranteed has something to do with the ged command wrapper
in mged |
04:02.53 |
starseeker |
I emailed Bob |
04:03.09 |
starseeker |
needs to get some sleep
tonight, but he may be able to spot it right off tomoroww
morning |
04:03.21 |
starseeker |
can't spell |
04:04.11 |
brlcad |
bets it's
cmd.c:351 |
04:05.00 |
starseeker |
that could be it |
04:05.31 |
starseeker |
wonders why he didn't notice
that in the gdb back trace for the case with a file
loaded |
04:05.37 |
brlcad |
yep |
04:05.47 |
brlcad |
gedp is only set during f_opendb |
04:05.51 |
brlcad |
that's not right |
04:41.31 |
brlcad |
now the other question is how classic mode
works but graphical doesn't |
05:46.15 |
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06:25.09 |
brlcad |
closes up gdb for the night
only fixing the one bug but not very well |
06:26.45 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33726
10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (mged.c setup.c): gedp needs to be
non-null. it should exist for the life of the caller making libged
calls. move ged init into mged_setup but keep the wdbp association
else all goes to hell. |
06:29.10 |
brlcad |
that seemds to do the trick here, but I'm sure
there's more to it |
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11:05.58 |
d-lo |
Morning all! |
11:06.21 |
brlcad |
yawns |
11:07.45 |
d-lo |
just waking or getting ready to
crash? |
11:07.55 |
d-lo |
or do I already know the answer :) |
11:08.37 |
d-lo |
just FYI: /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
/usr/X11/lib/libX11.so when searching for -lX11 |
11:08.50 |
d-lo |
so I think I will talk with Brian today
:/ |
11:09.06 |
brlcad |
what type is it? |
11:09.31 |
d-lo |
What type is what? The X11 lib? |
11:09.35 |
brlcad |
yep |
11:09.54 |
brlcad |
if it's incompatible, you can often make it
compatible |
11:10.00 |
d-lo |
I get that linker error for both the .so and
the .a |
11:10.04 |
brlcad |
sure |
11:10.24 |
brlcad |
it's the 'why' it's incompatible that
matters |
11:10.34 |
d-lo |
I am going to try a few more things. I just
noticed the path is getting the libs from /lib/ and not
/lib64/ |
11:10.46 |
d-lo |
How can I find out the 'why' ? |
11:11.04 |
brlcad |
don't guess, just run "file" on it -- it'll
tell you its type, then run file on one of your .o files to see
what type you're building |
11:12.06 |
d-lo |
run file on one of the .o's generated during
the brlcad build? |
11:12.19 |
brlcad |
you have others? :) |
11:12.34 |
d-lo |
:) Just verifying info when I am in uncharted
waters :) |
11:12.49 |
d-lo |
apologizes for abnoxious q's
:) |
11:13.45 |
brlcad |
is usually sarcastic, bitter,
and brief in the unintended early prelight hours |
11:14.46 |
d-lo |
well, the build is hanging up in:
brlcad/src/other/tk/unix/ and so i picked the last .o generated:
tkUnixXId.o: ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, AMD x86-64, version 1
(SYSV), not stripped |
11:15.02 |
d-lo |
....and that tells me that I am building a
64-bit version? |
11:19.45 |
brlcad |
it tells you a lot of things, one being that
it's building 64-bit version |
11:20.18 |
brlcad |
more importantly, what is the .so's
type |
11:21.06 |
brlcad |
also important is whether it was incompatible,
skipped, and it simply used something else (that was compatible) or
whether it skipped and linked nothing/failed |
11:21.21 |
brlcad |
the message by itself could be
innocuous |
11:21.42 |
d-lo |
the .so files are not generated yet. |
11:21.51 |
d-lo |
or are you speaking of the .so of the X11
libs |
11:21.52 |
d-lo |
? |
11:21.53 |
brlcad |
o.O |
11:22.08 |
brlcad |
i'm speaking of the .so that is supposedly ..
incompatible |
11:23.04 |
brlcad |
the point is you compare types to see why it's
incompatible |
11:23.14 |
brlcad |
if it's a simple 32/64, you can do something
about that |
11:23.51 |
d-lo |
Yeah, its saying its a 32bit lib. |
11:24.43 |
d-lo |
Hrm, configure is showing both -L/usr/X11/lib
and -L/usr/X11/lib64 for linker flags |
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11:26.28 |
brlcad |
hence my other point |
11:26.43 |
brlcad |
rather important is whether it was
incompatible, skipped, and it simply used something else (that was
compatible) or whether it skipped and linked
nothing/failed |
11:27.25 |
d-lo |
Well I have tried ./configure
--with-x11=/usr/X11/lib64 (and a few other variants) with no change
:/ |
11:28.35 |
brlcad |
but have you confirmed that you need to change
it? |
11:28.46 |
d-lo |
Okay, more info: |
11:28.58 |
brlcad |
given both dirs are listed, the incompatible
statement probably doesn't matter |
11:29.11 |
d-lo |
When I simply ./configure, I get a LD error
stating it cannot find -lX11 |
11:29.39 |
d-lo |
When I ./configure --with-x11=/usr/X11 then I
get the incompatable error. |
11:29.59 |
d-lo |
So I know i need to point the configure to the
64 bit flavor of X11, but I am not succeeding. |
11:30.13 |
brlcad |
do you even *have* a 64-bit flavor of
X11 |
11:30.57 |
d-lo |
yep: libX11.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object,
AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped |
11:31.21 |
d-lo |
after you tossed me the 'file' bone, I went
and verified the files in the /usr/X11/lib64 dir |
11:31.36 |
d-lo |
so its there, but the pathing is somehow
messed up :/ |
11:31.47 |
brlcad |
so then it's just path foo missing |
11:32.13 |
brlcad |
try --enable-64bit, if that doesn't work try
setting flags directly yourself |
11:32.28 |
d-lo |
i add that -- to the ./configure? |
11:32.29 |
brlcad |
./configure LDFLAGS="..." CPPFLAGS="..."
CFLAGS=".." |
11:32.33 |
brlcad |
yep |
11:32.52 |
brlcad |
iirc, that may swap the search
ordering |
11:32.58 |
brlcad |
but no promises |
11:33.05 |
d-lo |
heh. |
11:33.09 |
brlcad |
it's just as easy to force it
manually |
11:33.18 |
d-lo |
make |
11:33.24 |
d-lo |
damn, wrong window. |
11:34.33 |
d-lo |
nope same thing... lemme try setting the
LDFLAGS manually. |
11:34.38 |
d-lo |
Thanks for your help btw. |
11:36.03 |
brlcad |
fyi, if you have both, there's not much for
brian to do -- you have everything you need |
11:36.56 |
d-lo |
i figured. email not sent yet. |
11:39.41 |
d-lo |
Hrm, well thats annoying. I used ./configure
LDFLAGS="blahhblah" and it just appened all the previous flags to
the end of what I supplied.... so /usr/X11/lib is still there
:/ |
11:40.09 |
brlcad |
ordering matters |
11:40.24 |
brlcad |
doesn't matter if there are extras if it finds
the one you need first |
11:40.56 |
d-lo |
is beginning to see what
starseeker and others scream about sometimes :) |
11:41.22 |
brlcad |
newbies |
11:41.35 |
d-lo |
Hey! I resemble that remark. |
11:43.10 |
brlcad |
understanding linkage and search paths in
detail is usually something hammered in hard in a first-year cs
program |
11:43.19 |
d-lo |
are there adverse effects to using make -j
? |
11:43.22 |
brlcad |
at least it used to be |
11:43.33 |
brlcad |
d-lo: yes, it compiles adversely
faster |
11:43.44 |
brlcad |
on smp hardware |
11:44.55 |
d-lo |
:P I knew that, just wanted to know if it
f-ed up the build in any way. |
11:45.28 |
brlcad |
wouldn't be a very useful option if it
did |
11:46.20 |
d-lo |
true, but there is enough nuainces to this
whole 'make' thing that its a perfectly valid question/concern
:P |
11:46.47 |
brlcad |
only with your current uncertain state of
reasoning |
11:48.10 |
d-lo |
./configure LDFLAGS="-L/usr/X11/lib64" nor
./configure LDFLAGS="-L/usr/X11/lib64" --with-x11=/usr/X11 works...
still same errors :? |
11:48.13 |
brlcad |
there are certainly potential effects, as with
any option, but nothing that matters right now that you'd run
into |
11:49.05 |
brlcad |
look at the actual test in the config.log and
see why |
11:49.46 |
brlcad |
could be not using it or something else
overriding it or wrong order or missing some other flag or
... |
11:50.29 |
d-lo |
okay, one sec. |
11:51.06 |
brlcad |
could also move the 32bit lib out of the
way |
11:51.27 |
brlcad |
but wouldn't do that until you know what all
usses it |
11:51.46 |
brlcad |
wanders off for a bit, have
fun |
11:52.06 |
d-lo |
lata! |
12:05.16 |
d-lo |
brlcad: I know you are away, but are we still
using Doxygen? We moving to something else? |
12:12.07 |
louipc |
I took first year CS 7yrs ago. We learned
java. I made a tic tac toe game with the swing toolkit
woo. |
12:15.08 |
starseeker |
d-lo: We're still set up to use Doxygen, but
I don't know if anyone has played with it lately |
12:15.30 |
starseeker |
we need to do a lot of work on "doxygenifying"
things, IIRC |
12:15.35 |
d-lo |
starseeker: Whats the code documentation of
choice now? (Or is there?) |
12:19.41 |
d-lo |
starseeker: Docbook is for.... the tutorials
and such? |
12:21.35 |
louipc |
docbook is for documenting libraries and
such |
12:21.59 |
louipc |
errm not |
12:22.06 |
louipc |
d-lo: you got it :D |
12:22.29 |
louipc |
I just woke up |
12:24.02 |
d-lo |
alrighty then, thanks :) |
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12:35.58 |
brlquestions |
Hi again ! |
12:36.19 |
louipc |
hi |
12:36.22 |
brlquestions |
hi louipc |
12:36.33 |
brlquestions |
I have one question ... |
12:36.50 |
brlquestions |
the g-stl conversor is very slow ... is it
normal ? |
12:37.15 |
louipc |
I don't know |
12:37.45 |
d-lo |
g-stl uses the facetiation/tessilation
routines and, yes, can be *very slow* |
12:37.55 |
brlquestions |
OK ... thank you d-lo |
12:38.13 |
brlquestions |
I was wondering if there was some pathological
operation in my model ... |
12:38.25 |
d-lo |
there have been times where I have fired off a
tessilation just before I leave work for the day, so it would be
done by the time I get in the next day. |
12:38.48 |
louipc |
is it slower than raytracing? |
12:38.55 |
d-lo |
but these models I speak of are 75-100MB files
with tens of thousands of primitives. |
12:39.23 |
d-lo |
louipc: all depends on the complexity of the
object(s) you are facetizing. |
12:39.29 |
brlquestions |
No ... I'm talking about 20 minutes for one
bezier solid extrusion intersected with a spherical shell |
12:39.36 |
louipc |
ok |
12:39.39 |
d-lo |
gennerally though, raytracing is much much
faster. |
12:40.43 |
d-lo |
brlcad: I have only delt with an extrusion
*once* in the past 3 years of modeling and then it was for hobby
purposes only. I never tried to shove it through a
tessilator. |
12:41.00 |
brlquestions |
OK ... thanks ! |
12:41.05 |
d-lo |
Oops, that was ment for brlquestions not
brlcad ;) |
12:41.10 |
d-lo |
brlq |
12:41.26 |
d-lo |
brlquestions: If it finishes succesfully, I
would like to know the time it took! |
12:41.46 |
brlquestions |
about 20 minutes with a cylindrical shell
... |
12:42.00 |
louipc |
pix or it didn't happen |
12:42.00 |
brlquestions |
the spherical one is running now ! |
12:42.08 |
d-lo |
louipc: lol |
12:42.37 |
d-lo |
brlquestions: how was the quality of the
resulting BoT? |
12:43.10 |
brlquestions |
I think it was good ... but anyway I need a
spherical shell intersection prior |
12:43.15 |
brlquestions |
to laser sintering it ... |
12:45.33 |
brlquestions |
my boss only wants to perform expensive
experiments (sinterizing) only on models closer to final
products. |
12:45.47 |
brlquestions |
No cylinders ... spheres !!! |
12:46.24 |
louipc |
sounds neat |
12:48.23 |
brlquestions |
OK ... the tesellation finished right now ! 24
minutes ! |
12:48.28 |
brlquestions |
good results ! |
12:53.09 |
d-lo |
ah, its nice to see all 4 cores at 100%
:) |
12:54.29 |
d-lo |
brlcad: I think I found an issue with the
Makefiles. in at least two Make files, the LDFLAG of
-L/usr/X11/lib64 is being changed to -L/usr/lib64 ... dunno why
quite yet |
12:55.38 |
brlquestions |
check your mail d-lo ! |
12:55.48 |
brlquestions |
there's a screen capture of the BoT
.. |
12:58.53 |
d-lo |
lookin good! |
13:34.12 |
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BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33727 10/rt^3/trunk/
(7 files in 6 dirs): Forgot to svn add the GeometryChunk.h file.
Also includes a few minor fixes a new Exception subclass. |
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BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33728
10/rt^3/trunk/src/GeometryService/netMsg/GeometryChunkMsg.cxx: Also
forgot to include the source for GeometryChunkMsg. |
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d-lo |
anyone: Shouldn't 'make install' copy the
includes/ dir over? I am looking for bu.h and it just isn't
there... libbu.so is, but not the header.... |
13:57.50 |
louipc |
yeah it should |
13:58.11 |
d-lo |
glares at this evil
machine. |
13:58.33 |
d-lo |
More than likely operator error, but for now I
blame the machine. |
14:00.10 |
louipc |
:D |
14:03.51 |
d-lo |
a ha. workeded that time. |
14:03.56 |
d-lo |
glares at this evil
machine. |
14:08.42 |
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15:27.56 |
``Erik___ |
yes, it should go ito
$PREFIX/include/ |
15:31.03 |
brlcad |
$prefix/include/brlcad |
15:31.20 |
brlcad |
for the brlcad headers and top-level include
for the external dep headers |
15:31.59 |
d-lo |
something went foobar with the first time
'round. removed it and tried again and it worked. |
15:32.54 |
d-lo |
Oddness is that in 2 Makefiles in the tk dirs,
the LDFLAG for the X11 was changed from /usr/X11/lib64 to
/usr/lib64 .... |
15:33.30 |
d-lo |
quick change back and it was compiling just
fine.. |
15:34.22 |
d-lo |
``Erik: How ya feelin? |
15:35.33 |
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15:44.19 |
``Erik |
underground |
15:46.16 |
starseeker |
``Erik: hiding? |
15:46.31 |
d-lo |
Well I just got the call from my oldest's
school... apperantly he blew chunks all over the playground.....
Just when i thought we had this bug beat.... |
15:46.44 |
starseeker |
arrgh |
15:46.56 |
_sushi_ |
blew chunks all over the playground? |
15:47.15 |
d-lo |
vomit |
15:49.27 |
``Erik |
I assume the whif is collecing thim? |
15:49.33 |
``Erik |
s/ t/ / |
15:50.01 |
``Erik |
hope is recoups soon :( |
15:50.08 |
``Erik |
s/is/he/ |
15:50.21 |
_sushi_ |
d-lo: what bug? |
15:50.22 |
``Erik |
keyboard is outsmarting me today |
15:50.27 |
d-lo |
Yuppers. just got a little concerned with
that call and you not being here either.... might be a trend and I
don't want to burn any more sick leave :/ |
15:50.46 |
d-lo |
_sushi_: Stomach flu probably. |
15:50.59 |
``Erik |
no, I drank myself fucktarded last night and
am recouping |
15:51.14 |
``Erik |
<-- epic fail. |
15:51.27 |
starseeker |
what'd you do that for??? |
15:51.33 |
d-lo |
ah, okay, well then perhaps its not another
epidemic :/ |
15:51.38 |
``Erik |
uh, same reason folk climb everest |
15:51.56 |
``Erik |
one tequlia two tequila three tequila floor
:) |
15:52.06 |
starseeker |
shakes head |
15:52.13 |
d-lo |
Playing MMOs while heavily intoxicated is a
whole new level of entertainment. |
15:52.18 |
``Erik |
oh yeah |
15:52.32 |
``Erik |
punker recounted last nights mmo episode to
me |
15:52.36 |
starseeker |
you might want to pick a somewhat less
physically damaging pointless challenge ;-) |
15:52.36 |
``Erik |
I was in rare form :D |
15:53.10 |
d-lo |
there is nothing worse than an 'angry drunk'
Dwarf at the bar.... man they can be A-holes. |
15:53.12 |
``Erik |
apparently, I am very giving and loving when
fucked up |
15:53.30 |
starseeker |
wow, you WERE smashed ;-) |
15:53.40 |
``Erik |
"no, I don't need loot, I'm happy with the
experience... dude, you wanna go grab a beer? come on down to
baltirmoe, man" |
15:54.05 |
d-lo |
lol |
15:54.42 |
d-lo |
loots a *glowing* Pint of
Guiness + 4 |
15:54.56 |
``Erik |
so yeah, I felt the notion of driving this
morning would have been ... bad :) |
15:55.57 |
d-lo |
good call. |
15:56.09 |
``Erik |
amusingly, I've done some of my best coding
either drunk off my arse, or right after my wisdom teeth, one
shattered so they gave me a codeine cocktail, I was wobbling in my
chair but knocked out a buttload of code |
15:56.19 |
d-lo |
gives you a chance to go farming and make up
for the income loss that occurred last night :) |
15:56.32 |
``Erik |
meh, I got money out the butt on that
game |
15:56.57 |
``Erik |
as usual, the upgrade are strictly from places
I'm not geared to go. |
15:57.10 |
d-lo |
didn't need to know what
``Erik did with his money while drunk.... |
15:57.21 |
``Erik |
they went all donation and gave me luvin' last
night, and I went and liquored myself up stupid to fuck shit
up |
15:57.41 |
``Erik |
<-- pissed at himself |
15:58.06 |
d-lo |
No Leeroy then? More Erik Teresa that normal?
:D |
15:58.24 |
``Erik |
heh, no, I don't leroy, I go all
pussyfood |
15:58.27 |
``Erik |
foot |
15:58.41 |
``Erik |
"wait, what? did you guys pull? I LOVE YOU
MANG" |
15:59.16 |
d-lo |
Personnally, I think suicidal raids on zones
with naked toons is funny. |
15:59.26 |
``Erik |
"I don't need loot, I'm just happy I'm
here" |
15:59.34 |
d-lo |
Both to watch and participate in. |
15:59.47 |
``Erik |
heh, that's become a tradition, everyone
groups up at the instance start and the tank is standing there butt
nekkid |
15:59.50 |
d-lo |
lol, just Lovin Life eh? |
16:00.46 |
d-lo |
once I get my lappy back to some resemblance
of useful, I will install wine and see if I can get some games
runnin :) |
16:00.57 |
``Erik |
and I've participated in full group nekkid
runs through instances (the notion being we die, we die a lot,
we're trying to eliminate the repair cost) |
16:01.14 |
``Erik |
just buy yourself a mac, man :D |
16:01.23 |
``Erik |
e-humps steve jobs
leg |
16:01.32 |
d-lo |
has a better idea: You buy me
a Mac! |
16:01.41 |
d-lo |
lol |
16:01.43 |
d-lo |
down boy |
16:02.23 |
``Erik |
if'n yall want a long lunch, I'll come down to
duclaws or festival or something |
16:02.32 |
d-lo |
You don't happen to know if OSX has been
sucessfully installed/ran on non Apple hardware... do ya? |
16:02.47 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33729
10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/samples/GetRegionMap.java:
Eliminated use of java 6 specifics, because this is now used in
gomez (needs to be java 5 compatible) |
16:03.05 |
``Erik |
um, there was a system that apple sued out of
existance that did it |
16:03.21 |
d-lo |
well, i was talking more 'hack' that
legit. |
16:03.23 |
``Erik |
and um, there was just an article on how to do
it on smackslot a couple days ago |
16:03.56 |
d-lo |
thinks running OSX on a Dell
would be funny :) |
16:04.00 |
``Erik |
franky, apple puts out some damn nice
hardware, I think it's worth the premium |
16:04.12 |
d-lo |
agrees. |
16:04.26 |
d-lo |
but worth it or not, new puter hardware is not
in the budget. |
16:04.29 |
``Erik |
I'm a bit pissed that I can't find teh
white&clear keyboard anymore |
16:05.01 |
d-lo |
lol.... Hackintosh OSX |
16:05.56 |
``Erik |
the new style keyboard is awfully well built,
but lacks |
16:06.27 |
``Erik |
<-- hugs his macbook, but admits that it's
not egonomeric |
16:07.05 |
d-lo |
in the words of the unknown Apple FanBoi:
"sure, its not ergonmic or cheap, but its an Apple!" |
16:07.22 |
``Erik |
yeah, pretty much |
16:07.25 |
d-lo |
can't remember where he heard
that, but it made him ill. |
16:07.34 |
d-lo |
i felt like smacking that guy. |
16:07.43 |
``Erik |
at least it still has nipples |
16:08.21 |
``Erik |
though when they moved them from the middle
fingers to the pointers, that pissed me off |
16:08.35 |
``Erik |
they belong on d and k, not f and j,
damnit |
16:08.49 |
``Erik |
shakes cane |
16:09.00 |
d-lo |
lol |
16:09.13 |
d-lo |
so, where are these lunch places in which you
speak? |
16:09.29 |
``Erik |
duclaws is kinda close to the harford
mall |
16:09.34 |
``Erik |
festival is down 24 |
16:09.52 |
``Erik |
they're generally considered "too far away"
for lunch |
16:10.39 |
``Erik |
2+ hour dealies |
16:10.48 |
d-lo |
ah, well never mind then :/ |
16:10.51 |
``Erik |
but I wont' drive an hour to go to lunch
:) |
16:11.31 |
``Erik |
yeah, I assumed *shrug* |
16:12.26 |
``Erik |
duclaws is a microbrewery, so not up your
alley anways |
16:12.35 |
d-lo |
heh, I really do think I am going to try this
Hackentosh approach ;) |
16:12.36 |
``Erik |
festival has a japanese place that isn't too
bad |
16:13.15 |
``Erik |
totally, the killer is gonna be the bios crap,
macs used to use openfirmware and are now like epi or
something |
16:13.41 |
``Erik |
so you'll need 10.5 and the right hw |
16:14.43 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
... can be done with qemu... is a lot of work,
and requires just the right hardware to avoid some /serious/ driver
issues |
16:15.40 |
d-lo |
need to aquire 10.5 for some testing
;) |
16:15.53 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
I would say not worth it in all but the most
unique circumstances (must run x software on y hardware, cannot
afford correct solution) |
16:16.19 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
convince someone to give you shell access to
their machine |
16:16.37 |
d-lo |
you lost me... |
16:17.06 |
d-lo |
why would I need shell access to someone
else's machine? |
16:17.08 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
find someont with 10.5 and get them to let you
have some time on their HW |
16:17.39 |
d-lo |
for what purpose? |
16:18.41 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
[20090210 08:15:42] <d-lo> need to
aquire 10.5 for some testing ;) |
16:18.58 |
d-lo |
heh, I mend the disc(s) for installation
testing. |
16:19.06 |
d-lo |
s/mend/meant/ |
16:20.22 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
why the need for installation testing? it will
work on real HW, fail on most everything else (BIOS checksum, or
other scheme to lock you out) |
16:20.56 |
d-lo |
I have a Dell lappy, and I want to see if i
can get OS10.5 running on it :) |
16:21.31 |
``Erik |
just grab fbsd :D or linux, y'know, if you're
lame |
16:21.48 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
clears throat |
16:21.52 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
loudly |
16:22.13 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
then chants "gentoo, gentoo!" |
16:22.16 |
``Erik |
sorry, done too much kernel work, can't
respect leenewx no mo' |
16:22.41 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
that's you, man |
16:22.52 |
``Erik |
yes, that is me |
16:23.02 |
d-lo |
i was wondering who that was... |
16:23.13 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
I have converted from winedo$e in 96, and
never looked back |
16:23.49 |
``Erik |
I went to linux in '95, fbsd in '97 or '98,
after witnessing the horrors from kernel hacking |
16:23.58 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
tried bsd in 98 or so, not impressed, went
back to slackware |
16:24.04 |
``Erik |
been a kernel hacker of some form or another
since '86 |
16:24.28 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
well, back then, fbsd was a much better
kernel |
16:24.28 |
``Erik |
interrupt vectors on c64's, yo |
16:24.33 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
! |
16:24.43 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
I had one... |
16:24.59 |
d-lo |
You don't know the power of the Vic-20
.... |
16:25.07 |
``Erik |
been watching, linux has spastic upgrades, but
often throws them away and adopts what fbsd did 5 years
before |
16:25.16 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
sold it to that chick that reverse engineered
it and made one in FPGAs |
16:25.29 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
they were popular in Germany, I am
told |
16:25.57 |
``Erik |
in the last decade, I've seen ONE significant
linux accomplishment adopted into fbsd. One. |
16:25.59 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
no, i don't know the power of vic-20 |
16:26.07 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
ok |
16:26.29 |
``Erik |
the zero copy network shit, which was
re-organized like mad due to security concerns :D |
16:26.50 |
``Erik |
though ingo's scheduler got some
attention |
16:26.51 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
still not switching, too much infrastructure
in place, time learning, also i like the performance i
get |
16:26.57 |
d-lo |
way out int he middle of the AZ desert.. I was
l33t with my cassette drive... my parents pheared me. |
16:27.18 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
... until global warming melted your
tape |
16:27.21 |
``Erik |
hehehhe, I was buying the 120 minute cassettes
to hold more data :D |
16:27.33 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
... wait, that was just an ordinary day in
may |
16:27.37 |
d-lo |
I think I ended up taking the whole machine
out for target practice one day... |
16:27.48 |
``Erik |
yes, they failed sooner, and had a higher doa,
but when they worked, it was sweet |
16:28.19 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
anyone ever use a 2.88 mB 3.5"
floppy? |
16:28.27 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
WORM? |
16:28.40 |
d-lo |
yeah, the 'super-HD'floppies. |
16:28.54 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
or ls-120 super disk |
16:28.58 |
d-lo |
never messed with them much.... jumped
straight to 'SuperDisk' ! |
16:28.58 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
from panasonic |
16:29.09 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
nice |
16:29.27 |
d-lo |
I was on the iOmega Zip Disk bandwagon for a
while... |
16:30.02 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
until wheels fell off..."read error
!@#$&$%T#$..." |
16:30.13 |
d-lo |
yeah, that was a waste of money. |
16:30.43 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
SD cards, that's the way to go. or
CF |
16:30.56 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
a great backup solution, they are |
16:31.23 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
32 gig CF, get 2 of them to B/U system on
rotating basis |
16:32.05 |
d-lo |
heh, um, I have 2 500GB drives, 1 160 and a
handfull of 80's.... won't work for me :/ |
16:32.22 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
that's all? |
16:32.42 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
I have lot's more, but everything else is on
RAID |
16:33.35 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
with (ahem) gentoo, all of my packages are
tarred and bzipped in a certain dir, and that is not much
data |
16:34.08 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
add that to a tar file of my etc dir and boot
dir, and that is a good backup |
16:34.29 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
crap! gotta go to class |
16:34.34 |
Dr_Phreakenstein |
have fun, kids |
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CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33730
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/ (run_test run_test.tcl): Take a stab
at getting a run_test sh script/tcl script hybrid |
16:35.47 |
d-lo |
and you can back 1.5TB+ up on 2 32Gig CF cards
with Gentoo? Thats Frickin amazing!!!!!! :P |
16:40.06 |
d-lo |
well, without furthing any HardDrive envy that
is floating around here, the 1TB (ish) i have is a pain in the butt
to back up to CDs as it is, so using CF cards would make me want to
gouge my own eyes out. |
16:40.10 |
d-lo |
;) |
16:44.04 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33731
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/run_test: Go for a system tclsh if the
local btclsh isn't found - for this it won't matter. |
16:46.16 |
brlcad |
starseeker: if you're not mid-stream,
distcheck |
16:47.44 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33732
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/run_test: Allow user to supply source
directory as second option |
16:47.50 |
starseeker |
brlcad: Ok, I'm sure I'm busted on that
;-) |
16:48.07 |
starseeker |
you're happy with the mged fix for the no-db
case? |
16:48.26 |
d-lo |
brlcad: In looking through libpkg, i am
thinking it is posible to use libpkg with out passing a callback
table to a pkg_conn .....that sound about right? |
16:52.05 |
d-lo |
brlcad: Message from Ed: Call him at
x6300. |
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starseeker |
prods CIA |
17:23.22 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33733
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/Makefile.am: It's run_test
now |
17:34.41 |
d-lo |
brlcad: I will need to sitdown and talk libpkg
with you... I am just not seeing the light :/ |
17:38.12 |
starseeker |
brlcad: make distcheck passed on the
Mac |
18:30.16 |
starseeker |
and on linux |
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CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33734
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/ (11 files): Add the geometry
displaying commands to regress/mged/mged.tcl |
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CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33735 10/brlcad/trunk/
(NEWS src/gtools/g_diff.c): fixed g_diff crash reported by lee
butler where g_diff crashed with a badmagic error bu_bomb'ing out
due to an uninitialized vls. looks like it is possibly related to
earlier changes. |
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CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33736
10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: need to fix two more critical bugs before
release. File->Open in MGED crashes and the 'gets' command locks
it up saying the variable is not defined (or it
crashes/freezes). |
21:42.35 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33737
10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: see the gets example in its manpage |
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CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33738
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/ (5 files): Start on editing
commands. |
22:46.44 |
CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33739
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/ (Makefile.am oed.mged
regression_resources.tcl): add oed testing |
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CIA-40 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33740
10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/ (Makefile.am i.mged keypoint.mged
rm.mged): add i, rm and keypoint testing |
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23:22.12 |
poolio |
Howdy all |
23:22.15 |
poolio |
congrats on the release :) |
23:37.25 |
louipc |
oh! I missed that |
23:55.01 |
brlcad |
poolio: not worthy of congrats, escaped with a
handful of critical bugs |
23:55.05 |
brlcad |
had to pull it shortly after |
23:56.43 |
poolio |
ah sorry to hear that, is it all worked out
yet or is that the reason for the flurry of commits? |
23:57.26 |
brlcad |
nope, just normal flurry |
23:57.39 |
brlcad |
though lot of flurry going into testing as
there may be other isses |
23:57.58 |
brlcad |
half of the known ones are worked out, couple
to go |
23:58.31 |
poolio |
good luck! I've had a few bugs recently that
took a few weeks to work out... |
23:58.53 |
brlcad |
yeah, these shouldn't be too
complicated |
23:59.02 |
brlcad |
it's only been a couple days |
23:59.13 |
brlcad |
and three were just discovered today |
23:59.25 |
brlcad |
one already fixed |
23:59.33 |
brlcad |
two to go |
23:59.57 |
poolio |
Were there issues in trunk or were these
introduced while tagging and such? |