IRC log for #brlcad on 20090221

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03:28.19 starseeker brlcad: fwiw, the crash seems to come when the pipe just fills the mged window
04:28.53 yukonbob away
04:28.57 yukonbob woops
04:30.21 yukonbob starseeker: see: -DTCL_DEBUG_MEM
08:50.53 _sushi_ brlcad: did you find something out?
09:19.24 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 0377.58.247.103 07http://brlcad.org * r1226 10/wiki/Hex:
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13:49.53 csanyipal Hi
14:01.37 brlcad howdy csanyipal!
14:02.49 brlcad _sushi_: yes, the TclVarHashCreateVar error is because of a tcl+itcl version mismatch
14:02.55 brlcad it's this problem: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=640802&aid=2029877&group_id=105292
14:03.11 brlcad checking an enable-all now
14:03.37 brlcad csanyipal: are you the one with the students?
14:12.51 csanyipal brlcad: yes, I'm a teacher in a secondary school.
14:16.06 brlcad csanyipal: cool, I believe I've exchanged a few messages with one of your students
14:16.38 brlcad or a group of them, rather -- for a modeling project you have them working on
14:16.47 csanyipal In that case I'm not that one teacher, I belive..
14:21.25 brlcad hm
14:22.57 csanyipal We have here a local competition of the informatics and I have just one student she made a simple model of an image holder..
14:28.19 brlcad these students were modeling some sort of space satellite, and are now trying to make an animation of it
14:28.54 csanyipal It's interesting. :)
14:29.42 csanyipal On the BRLCAD Wiki there is now an article about Animation..
14:30.19 csanyipal http://brlcad.org/wiki/Animation
14:31.59 csanyipal I read this Article and try to find an application like the iPhoto on MAC OS but on the Debian GNU/Linux Lenny, but so far without a success.
14:33.03 csanyipal Mayhep I try out the ffmpeg way to get an animation soon.
14:33.30 brlcad yeah, ffmpeg is the way to go on linux
14:33.41 brlcad just didn't get to putting the steps in, hoping someone else would :)
14:33.54 csanyipal are these student using linux too?
14:33.56 brlcad gimp maybe has a way too
14:34.08 csanyipal I think about GIMP too..
14:34.34 csanyipal but I don't know how to import the frames: the png images?
14:34.51 brlcad yeah, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/1664.html
14:35.39 brlcad another one: http://www.linux.com/feature/136606
14:35.41 csanyipal If one make a GIF animation with GIMP this result can be only a GIF image but not an avi file.
14:35.47 brlcad (never used the latter)
14:38.18 csanyipal Now I have a little problem with my Debian Lenny because this is a fresh installation and I must to set up some things like keyboard layouts..
14:39.58 csanyipal Later I will install again BRLCAD and try to make an animation with ffmpeg so if I have a success then I shall write it down in the BRLCAD WIKI. :)
14:40.26 brlcad awesome
14:46.47 brlcad looks like imagemagik may do the trick very simply if you have animation support compiled in .. convert *.jpg movie.mpg
14:47.00 brlcad s/jpg/png/
14:48.07 brlcad notes http://www.stillhq.com/jpeg2mpeg/000001.html
14:50.22 csanyipal if so then I will try it out too
14:51.47 csanyipal I must go now to solve my problem with Debian Lenny Desktop. By for now!
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15:33.26 brlcad starseeker: I still get the bwish Tcl_Init upgrade error, something is missing
15:33.51 brlcad as of 33853 at least
15:35.22 brlcad _sushi_: your compile worked just fine off a trunk checkout using --enable-all
15:36.10 brlcad I think you were just impatient and didn't clean the build like I said you had to after rerunning configure
15:36.43 brlcad so it had stale object files that still had the tcl+itcl mismatch
16:40.15 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1227 10/wiki/Animation: add a section for MJPEG and ImageMagick
16:50.25 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33854 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/ (tcl/unix/configure.in tk/unix/configure.in): Put autoconf minimums back (again) to 2.52
16:56.56 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33855 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/unix/ (Makefile.in configure.in): Attempt to re-apply tweaks for IRIX amde in r27764
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17:03.32 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33856 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tclProc.c: Reapply the tcl part of the fix in r27960
17:08.34 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33857 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/ (tcl/unix/tcl.m4 tk/unix/tcl.m4): Reapply tcl.m4 change from r28110
17:18.26 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33858 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Get more AC_PREREQ versions (per r28282)
17:21.56 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33859 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tcl.h: Add back in quelling of HAVE_DECLSPEC warning from r28804
17:24.51 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33860 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/unix/Makefile.in: See if this addresses the issue with SGI make mentioned in r28933
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17:32.07 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33861 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/unix/Makefile.in: Merge in the Makefile.in changes from r29075 - tcl Makefile.in already had them applied, so be sure to use the diff from r29075 as a basis if this needs to be done again.
17:34.49 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33862 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/win/tclWinPort.h: Merge in conditionally undef INCL_WINSOCK_API_TYPEDEFS from r29126
17:39.37 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33863 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tclInt.h: Reference common.h in tclInt.h (per r29324)
17:44.37 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33864 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/unix/Makefile.in: Merge in the Makefile.in changes from r29830 - tcl Makefile.in already had them applied, so be sure to use the diff from r29830 as a basis if this needs to be done again.
17:47.00 brlcad updates
17:48.52 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33865 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tclInt.h: Merge in tclInt.h tweak for Windows from r30119
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17:49.46 _sushi_ brlcad: I went to gym turned the PC off and forgot you might have been doing something on it
17:51.32 brlcad _sushi_: nope, I'm done
17:51.55 _sushi_ brlcad: what did you find out?
17:51.57 brlcad it builds cleanly without any changes after the inf. query loop was fixed
17:52.29 brlcad I think you were just impatient :)
17:52.32 _sushi_ How do I build it then?
17:52.34 brlcad didn't clean the build like I said you had to after rerunning configure
17:52.40 brlcad so it had stale object files that still had the tcl+itcl mismatch
17:52.57 _sushi_ I deleted the directory and unpacked the .bz2 again
17:53.00 brlcad otherwise it worked fine to just --enable-all
17:53.22 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33866 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tcl.h: Merge in tcl.h changes from r30196
17:53.31 brlcad the build in my dir will install to /usr/brlcad if you run sudo make install
17:54.11 brlcad otherwise can make clean, ./configure --enable-all --prefix=/usr --enable-optimized, make, sudo make install to get what you were going for
17:55.02 _sushi_ Which version did you compile? Did you run autogen.sh? What did you specify on ./configure?
17:55.13 brlcad yes, you have to run autogen.sh
17:55.16 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33867 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tclInt.h: Merge in tclInt.h changes from r30367
17:55.35 brlcad and I just gave you the configure line.....
17:56.09 brlcad though you should also add --without-ogl if the framebuffer gives you trouble
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17:57.10 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33868 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tclInt.h: Merge in tclInt.h changes from r30424
17:57.25 _sushi_ brlcad: which version did you compile? SVN or 7.14.0?
17:58.05 brlcad I always go straight to SVN
17:58.15 _sushi_ Well I was compiling 7.14.0
17:58.15 brlcad no point wasting time on something that may have already been fixed
17:58.23 brlcad though in this case I really don't think that was the problem
17:58.49 _sushi_ I did a svn checkout of *EVERYTHING* into my home
17:59.00 _sushi_ Now I go to brlcad/brlcad/trunk?
17:59.06 brlcad you shouldn't do that :)
17:59.16 _sushi_ Will it not compile because of that?
17:59.23 brlcad that will make a copy of every branch and every tag
17:59.36 brlcad no, it just wastes many many GB of space
17:59.49 _sushi_ How do I checkout only the right one?
17:59.49 brlcad and takes forever
17:59.54 brlcad ~cadsvn
17:59.54 ibot To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad
18:00.21 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33869 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/ (tcl/unix/Makefile.in tk/unix/Makefile.in): Hmm - line modded in r30505 in the Makefile.in's wasn't present at all - add it back in.
18:04.42 _sushi_ du -sk brlcad <didn't finish>
18:05.09 _sushi_ 19 GB :)
18:05.55 _sushi_ brlcad: did you compile with the ogl or without ogl flag?
18:10.10 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33870 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/ (tcl/unix/Makefile.in tk/unix/Makefile.in): Merge in changes to get Makefile.in's synced with r30534, trying to fix Ubuntu bug
18:11.49 brlcad _sushi_: you should --without-ogl
18:16.00 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33871 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tcl.h: Attempt to merge in change from r30938
18:20.07 starseeker brlcad: That's every change I was able to spot up to your changes to squash warnings, which I want to take a bit more care with
18:20.19 starseeker for src/other/tcl at least
18:29.44 _sushi_ brlcad: should be make clean done before autogen.sh or after?
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19:59.59 _sushi_ brlcad: now it compiled - went through make
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20:13.03 groovyOrange hello! (again)
20:13.17 groovyOrange I'm looking foe Janin
20:13.24 groovyOrange *for Janin
20:14.16 groovyOrange she'd uploaded some files. I need to ask her.
20:15.31 groovyOrange it's better for her to know she can connect me through love15411@gmail.com
20:20.53 groovyOrange She have uploaded command files in XML. I want to use it with OmegaT.org and finish my past work. I can not search those files through the tracker on sourceforge.net => this can spend whole my traffic.
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20:21.31 _sushi_ brlcad: wow! The new BRL-CAD 7.14.3 from SVN renders the problematic model correctly! :)
20:21.55 _sushi_ brlcad: thanks!
20:24.48 groovyOrange ruskie: Rusky, how long are you here?
21:09.49 ruskie erm...
21:09.54 ruskie been a while
21:10.13 groovyOrange ruskie: yeah
21:10.45 ruskie any particular reason?
21:10.57 groovyOrange no...
21:11.35 groovyOrange ruskie: don't you know a link where to get mged commands in xml as one file, e.g. as an archive?
21:11.43 ruskie no
21:11.49 groovyOrange ok
21:12.02 ruskie I haven't yet even installed the app so far...
21:12.11 groovyOrange why?
21:12.18 groovyOrange i can help
21:12.32 ruskie a) haven't gotten around to it b) wanted to package it and c) more than capable of setting it up
21:12.34 groovyOrange what operating system? Linux?
21:12.57 groovyOrange ok, i'm not really a programmer...
21:13.54 groovyOrange last time i tried to export pipes and rods into IGES and it wasn't successful.
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21:31.45 groovyOrange ok, i can be off-line now. ah, ok. I can ask starseeker...
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