IRC log for #brlcad on 20090315

01:09.53 bjorkintosh what's perverted about f#?
01:47.44 brlcad bjorkintosh: he was talking about you, not f# ;)
01:48.15 bjorkintosh hah
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02:56.45 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34039 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed a bug in the windows installer where the havoc model was getting installed as havog.g
04:25.30 Ralith lol
07:01.18 madant_ loves waking up at 12 pm on a sunday :)
07:36.57 *** join/#brlcad Kamran (n=qadir010@58-27-158-130.wateen.net)
07:37.12 Kamran hi all
07:38.16 Kamran i want to work for brlcad
07:38.24 Kamran in this summer
07:39.48 *** part/#brlcad Kamran (n=qadir010@58-27-158-130.wateen.net)
09:28.18 madant_ Kamran: you mean GSoC ?
09:31.46 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03Homovulgaris 07http://brlcad.org * r1249 10/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009: Link corrected
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11:52.45 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1250 10/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009: reword
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12:29.36 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34040 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/MGEDpage.itk:
12:29.36 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: fix two bugs in rtwizard: 1) perspective mode changes aren't applied when you
12:29.36 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: hit cancel, they actually revert back now and 2) occlusion mode no longer spews
12:29.36 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: an error about an unknown variable, and subsequently no longer provides
12:29.38 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: superfluous apply/cancel buttons either.
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15:08.53 cadefy hi there
15:09.01 cadefy does this channel help with AutoCAD?
15:21.12 louipc not generally
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16:49.06 tedcx anyone able to help getting a framebuffer working? I have 2 nvidia 9500GT caards in xinerama dual display mode.
16:53.48 brlcad tedcx: what's the problem exactly?
16:56.33 tedcx exec fbserv 1 /dev/fb & fb_open: no such device "/dev/fb; I have a fresh compile of 7.14 on an Intel Nehalem chip - am trudging thru the mug.g demo ; have the wire frame up and would like to ray trace
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17:09.10 tedcx brb
17:24.49 brlcad /dev/fb isn't a valid device, those are brl-cad device identifiers
17:27.30 brlcad run 'fbhelp' outside of mged (or exec fbhelp) to see the devices available, but I suspect you need either /dev/X or /dev/wgl
17:28.39 brlcad if you want a quick ray trace, though, just run "rt"
17:29.07 *** join/#brlcad dtidrow (n=Don@c-68-62-76-34.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
17:30.20 brlcad howdy dtidrow
17:31.48 dtidrow howdy :-)
17:31.56 dtidrow been awhile
17:32.59 brlcad indeed
17:33.11 brlcad keeping busy?
17:33.32 dtidrow yeah
17:34.07 dtidrow now that the weather's getting nice again, I can start working on the yard
17:34.28 brlcad got any interesting coding projects going on?
17:34.56 dtidrow stuff at work is keeping me busy
17:35.14 brlcad so nothing really interesting :)
17:36.03 dtidrow this week is going to be rough - both projects I'm working on at work have demos, so I'm gonna be busy getting those up and running
17:36.09 dtidrow something like that ;-)
17:36.53 dtidrow did I mention that I've relocated to MI?
17:37.07 brlcad a few months back, yes?
17:37.28 dtidrow back in July, yes
17:37.36 brlcad yeah, you did mention it
17:37.41 dtidrow didn't remember if I had mentioned that
17:38.14 brlcad so more than six months now, was it a good move?
17:38.37 dtidrow one of the guys in the area I work in has the BRL-CAD t72 rendering as his wallpaper ;-)
17:39.08 dtidrow so far, though it'll depend on how much DoD gets cut
17:39.53 dtidrow if both FCS and EFV get chopped, it could get ugly
17:39.54 brlcad neat!
17:40.17 dtidrow also, I'm not doing much in the way of graphics programming, which is disappointing
17:40.22 brlcad well, not the ugly part but the wallpaper ;)
17:40.35 dtidrow yeah, gathered that ;-)
17:42.25 dtidrow actually I had an old co-worker that would 'neat' in a satirical manner, so it works both ways
17:42.42 dtidrow would _use_ 'neat', rather
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19:52.17 tedcx seems like ray tracing after exec fbserv 1 /dev/ogl & works for a while but the screens freeze up --- I have dual monitors connected to each of 2 nvidia cards - what is the best setup? maybe add a 3rd card and monitor with its own X server?
19:57.09 brlcad tedcx: that really depends on your preferences and requirements
19:57.24 brlcad use /dev/X instead of /dev/ogl
19:57.46 brlcad the ogl driver provokes various bugs in glx driver implementations and various X servers
19:58.08 tedcx OK
19:58.38 brlcad otherwise, any combination should work so long as X is configured properly
19:58.42 tedcx I presume I can ignore Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
19:58.54 brlcad so long as it pops up the window, yes
19:59.11 tedcx sure dows
19:59.17 tedcx does
19:59.37 brlcad might want to tell the server how big of a context you intend to use, e.g. -S1024
20:02.01 tedcx just did - works fine
20:02.48 dreeves brlcad did you see the question I asked you directly?
20:03.05 tedcx any way to use the nvidia hardware or is it best to blit to the frame bufffer -
20:03.12 tedcx yes I used -s1024
20:05.36 brlcad dreeves: the issue is a workable nurbs implementation didn't exist so we're in the process of implementing said support
20:06.43 brlcad there's a lot of old code that stay wrote that does just about everything except trimmed nurbs, but does it very very slowly (using a very old ray evaluation technique) and it has acne problems
20:07.41 brlcad so implementing it over again (starting with newer research from rt06), it now supports trims and ray-traces but isn't yet stable/robust/fast/finished/etc
20:11.05 dreeves ok is there a good example of a .g that causes problems I can play around with?
20:11.52 brlcad in order to implement a solution that we can claim is "crack-free" air-tight, we're going to reapproach the current ray-tracing (which is probably 80% of the way there) in a piecewise fashion
20:12.29 brlcad there are docs in doc/brep.txt and doc/TODO.BREP that explain a little more detail
20:12.57 dreeves ok
20:13.39 brlcad there are testing apps in src/proc-db/brep* that will make a nurbs brep .g
20:14.04 brlcad and do well to explain how the brep's are pieced together
20:14.19 brlcad the openNURBS library is what we're using for the container format (src/other/openNURBS)
20:14.31 brlcad that pretty much works as promised very nicely
20:14.46 brlcad alas, though, openNURBS doesn't provide ray-tracing
20:14.49 brlcad that's what we have to implement
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21:13.21 dreeves btw thanks for the info
21:14.04 brlcad np
21:34.02 brlcad so we need to expand our ideas list
21:34.04 brlcad attach potential mentors
21:34.06 brlcad and describe requisite skills
21:35.25 brlcad starseeker, ``Erik, yukonbob, madant_, d-lo, whomever else is potentially interested in mentoring or being mentored ;)
21:45.30 madant_ k
21:54.48 brlcad what a great site.. http://janitor.kernelnewbies.org/
21:55.23 brlcad to have so many devs that you dedicate a site and set of projects to "code cleanup" :)
21:57.48 louipc that is cool
21:58.55 madant_ :) hmm.. linux kernel an open source success :)
21:59.30 louipc gnu also :D
22:00.16 madant_ i wonder when hurd is going to be great ..
22:06.55 CIA-40 BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1251 10/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas: revert back to more ideas instead of less, need to restructure
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23:13.49 starseeker brlcad: Well, I know you didn't like the font and aren't likely to care for any I have available, so here's a template without any of the text: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/poster_template.png
23:28.36 brlcad starseeker: hehe
23:29.38 brlcad how about without the tire and the text box, tire as separate image (so I can re-add/move it if needed)

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