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| 00:06.58 | louipc | brlcad: re: opennurbs hah they told me they were collecting email addresses so they can contact people when there are updates |
| 00:08.48 | brlcad | heh, I'd believe that too :) |
| 00:10.11 | brlcad | there's just no harm in supporting your competition to make importers/exporters for their format to 3dm (rhino) format -- either supports existing rhino customers (via export functionalit) or helps steal/convert customers from their competition :) |
| 00:10.29 | brlcad | pretty brilliant actually, i think |
| 00:10.36 | brlcad | (for a commercial code) |
| 00:10.55 | louipc | yeah it's in the spirit of commercial interests really |
| 00:11.14 | brlcad | yeah, but the point was that they've been very up-front about that from the start |
| 00:11.19 | bjorkintosh | brlcad, rhino strikes me as a maya/blender sorta competitor... |
| 00:11.21 | bjorkintosh | am i wrong? |
| 00:11.29 | louipc | not what you immediately think when you see the word 'open' |
| 00:11.47 | brlcad | that they're doing it for business reasons and not for open source, but still providing it gratis |
| 00:12.03 | brlcad | bjorkintosh: they are very much |
| 00:12.16 | louipc | so yeah.. that's why I'm not so thrilled about brl-cad using it |
| 00:12.19 | louipc | shrugs |
| 00:12.33 | brlcad | bjorkintosh: their opennurbs library, however, is tiny slice of a much more extensive geometry toolkit |
| 00:12.52 | bjorkintosh | ah okay. |
| 00:13.14 | brlcad | and has actually only little to do with what rhino itself does |
| 00:13.28 | brlcad | louipc: how so? |
| 00:13.36 | brlcad | because it's not free software? |
| 00:14.17 | brlcad | it's public domain, doesn't get much more "do whatever you want with it" .. just with the caveat of "but don't come crying back for more from me" |
| 00:14.18 | louipc | because upstream is uncooperative |
| 00:14.43 | brlcad | someone could turn it into a f/oss project if they wanted |
| 00:15.05 | brlcad | i'm cool with that -- now if there was any ambiguity and they pretended to be open source... |
| 00:15.29 | brlcad | that's effectively malicious intent |
| 00:15.40 | brlcad | or at least subversive |
| 00:15.43 | brlcad | they're not doing that |
| 00:17.32 | brlcad | louipc: plus, the framework itself is pretty phenomenal just as a 'container' .. very clean API, probably saved at least a couple *years* of development effort with no other solution on par with as flexible usage rights |
| 00:20.18 | starseeker | anybody want to contact the minion folk about licensing? |
| 00:27.13 | madant | is back |
| 00:27.36 | madant | starseeker: i was thinking of mailing them |
| 00:28.13 | madant | LGPL or GPL ? |
| 01:00.13 | brlcad | it's already GPL |
| 01:00.21 | brlcad | that's nfg |
| 01:00.46 | brlcad | ideally lgpl or bsd |
| 01:01.16 | madant | :) ha.. probably starseeker would be tetter at persuading them :D |
| 01:01.31 | brlcad | don't make them any promises, but they might like to know why we're interested |
| 01:02.22 | madant | hmm |
| 01:02.48 | madant | i guess first i should try building it :D |
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| 02:03.58 | starseeker | madant: Nah, go for it |
| 02:05.38 | starseeker | stares in awe at the number of upgrades waiting for him in gentoo and realizes he has waited too long since his last update |
| 02:05.41 | starseeker | groan |
| 02:05.57 | starseeker | plus a full kde rebuild against qt 4.5 |
| 02:06.07 | starseeker | the power bill will be higher this month... |
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| 02:19.12 | rahul_cool | hello all |
| 02:20.33 | rahul_cool | i have a problem in configuring brlcad source code |
| 02:21.12 | rahul_cool | when i gave the command svn checkout it says that it could not connect to site |
| 02:21.31 | rahul_cool | can anyone help please |
| 02:31.58 | louipc | rahul_cool: you should post the exact message |
| 02:38.56 | rahul_cool | i have download svn with the help of following command... "sudo apt-get install subversion" |
| 02:39.20 | rahul_cool | the output is... |
| 02:39.39 | rahul_cool | svn: OPTIONS of 'https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk': could not connect to server (https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net) |
| 02:40.15 | rahul_cool | i gave this command many times and always same output appears |
| 02:40.39 | rahul_cool | i gave svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
| 02:42.17 | madant | do u have to use a proxy to access the sites ? |
| 02:42.52 | rahul_cool | i tried .subversion/servers command and the output is permission denied |
| 02:44.25 | madant | er.. .subversion/servers command ? you have to edit that file and put in the proper proxy host and port etc. |
| 02:44.53 | dreeves | can you ping the brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net |
| 02:45.05 | dreeves | server |
| 02:46.05 | rahul_cool | yes i am able to access this site |
| 02:46.15 | dreeves | then you don't have a proxy issue |
| 02:46.34 | dreeves | can you touch x in the directory where you are attempting to checkout |
| 02:47.20 | rahul_cool | touch x means??i did not get u |
| 02:47.35 | dreeves | type the command 'touch x' |
| 02:47.46 | rahul_cool | ok |
| 02:48.05 | dreeves | if it works means you have access to write to the directory you are in |
| 02:48.06 | madant | you are able to access the server by using the ping command from the shell ? correct ? |
| 02:48.21 | dreeves | good question? |
| 02:49.35 | rahul_cool | i didnot try ping command i access that site by putting its url address on net |
| 02:49.57 | dreeves | no madant is right you need to try in the shell |
| 02:50.09 | dreeves | you could have a proxy setup in the browser |
| 02:50.32 | rahul_cool | ok... i try |
| 02:52.00 | dreeves | well |
| 02:53.07 | dreeves | sorry madant I hope I didn't step on you there, habit I get this issue seems like every day at work it always 1 of 3 things |
| 02:53.55 | madant | hehe :D not at all.. |
| 02:54.04 | dreeves | cool |
| 02:54.17 | madant | scratches his trying to understand where the stepping might have happened :D |
| 02:54.29 | madant | yikes |
| 02:54.43 | madant | scratches his HEAD trying to understand where the stepping might have happened :D |
| 02:54.59 | dreeves | oh i didn't on purpose |
| 02:55.47 | madant | :D now i am plain confused .. :) how's the code surfing coming along dreeves ? |
| 02:55.50 | dreeves | but you where kind of talking to rahul and then I jumped in and I'm new to this so I'm not certain of the exact protocols/formalities |
| 02:56.11 | dreeves | cool I'm getting there |
| 02:56.25 | madant | shouts screw formalities :D |
| 02:56.41 | dreeves | yeah I typically do |
| 02:57.14 | dreeves | I'm familiar with the code but some of the math I have to get back into it has been a little while since i have really done it at this level |
| 02:57.39 | dreeves | some code has changed since I worked on it before but most is the same |
| 02:58.05 | madant | thought about what exactly you want to work on ? i might have missed some IRC discussion |
| 02:58.49 | madant | i wonder how it must have been all those years ago .. :) |
| 02:58.54 | dreeves | yeah I think I'm going to give a hand at nurbs |
| 02:59.06 | dreeves | being I'm rusty at math |
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| 03:00.08 | rahul_cool | i gave the command |
| 03:00.25 | rahul_cool | ping https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk |
| 03:00.32 | rahul_cool | the output comes |
| 03:00.41 | madant | just 'ping brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net ' |
| 03:00.49 | rahul_cool | ping: unknown host https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk |
| 03:01.58 | rahul_cool | ok..........on that command |
| 03:02.03 | rahul_cool | the output is |
| 03:02.05 | rahul_cool | PING svn.sourceforge.net (216.34.181.65) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 03:02.31 | rahul_cool | and still the process is not over |
| 03:02.50 | dreeves | are you something like 64 bytes from .... |
| 03:04.12 | rahul_cool | sorry, but i dont understand your question |
| 03:04.28 | madant | rahul_cool : press Ctrl-C and see if you have 100 % packet loss |
| 03:05.13 | rahul_cool | yes 210 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 209062ms |
| 03:05.24 | madant | rahul_cool: do you have any idea if you use an http proxy in your browser settings ? |
| 03:05.53 | rahul_cool | yes i do use in browser settings |
| 03:06.24 | madant | you have to edit the .subversion/servers file to use the same proxy settings |
| 03:06.48 | madant | i hope the comments in the files are understandable enough for you to edit it. |
| 03:07.07 | rahul_cool | ok |
| 03:07.24 | rahul_cool | i try it |
| 03:08.10 | madant | you just have to uncomment(remove the initial hash) two lines and put in the proper proxy host and proxy port |
| 03:08.22 | madant | below the [global] line |
| 03:08.56 | madant | and then try svn checkout http://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad just in case the https is giving u trouble |
| 03:09.41 | madant | rahul_cool: u are doing a BS in computer science ? |
| 03:09.52 | rahul_cool | no btech |
| 03:10.03 | madant | which year ? |
| 03:10.10 | rahul_cool | final year |
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| 03:10.18 | madant | which Univ / college ? |
| 03:10.30 | rahul_cool | NIT Kurukshetra |
| 03:11.17 | rahul_cool | In our college we rarely use linux |
| 03:13.15 | madant | hehe.. np .. simple things can appear complicated in the beginning :) |
| 03:13.51 | rahul_cool | may i know what u are doing?? |
| 03:14.28 | madant | er. me ? :D i just passed out from IIT Kharagpur last year.. on a sabbatical since september |
| 03:14.50 | rahul_cool | ok. |
| 03:15.22 | rahul_cool | can u plz tell me where is .subversion/servers file?? |
| 03:15.47 | madant | in ur home directory |
| 03:16.31 | rahul_cool | no it is not there |
| 03:16.54 | madant | there is a hidden folder .subversion . in it there is a file called servers.. if you use vim u can straight away edit it from the shell using 'vim ~/.subversion/servers' |
| 03:17.36 | madant | in that case u can edit the default settings at /etc/subversion/servers |
| 03:17.39 | madant | as root |
| 03:18.40 | rahul_cool | got it |
| 03:18.47 | madant | dreeves: any thoughts about what exactly in nurbs ;) ? |
| 03:19.44 | madant | i really loved the idea of NURBS the first time i heard about it.. as all great ideas come.. simple yet powerful :D |
| 03:20.15 | rahul_cool | sorry..i dont have any idea |
| 03:20.31 | madant | rahul_cool: ? |
| 03:20.40 | madant | sorry i didn't get you |
| 03:21.06 | rahul_cool | oh oh sorry...i thought nurbs thing |
| 03:24.40 | rahul_cool | hey we use http proxy 172.16.0.1 but in that file what we have to write in http host |
| 03:25.10 | madant | under the [global] section |
| 03:25.30 | madant | you must have something like # http-proxy-host = defaultproxy.whatever.com |
| 03:25.40 | rahul_cool | yes |
| 03:25.55 | madant | replace it with http-proxy-host = 172.16.0.1 |
| 03:26.12 | rahul_cool | i was doing the same |
| 03:26.22 | madant | and similarly with the next line http-proxy-port .. replace it with the port you have to use |
| 03:26.37 | madant | and make sure you remove th # at the beginning of the line |
| 03:27.10 | rahul_cool | ya ... |
| 03:27.24 | madant | and once you have saved the changes.. svn checkout http://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
| 03:29.38 | madant | getting error messages again? |
| 03:31.09 | rahul_cool | wait plz |
| 03:33.25 | rahul_cool | it is saying option expected |
| 03:33.45 | madant | did you fill in the http-proxy-port ? |
| 03:33.53 | rahul_cool | yes |
| 03:33.55 | rahul_cool | 8181 |
| 03:34.03 | rahul_cool | svn: /etc/subversion/servers:73: Option expected |
| 03:34.59 | madant | tell me what is on line no: 73 of the servers file |
| 03:36.03 | rahul_cool | http-proxy-host = 172.16.0.1 |
| 03:36.58 | madant | it is the http-proxy-host line right ? make sure it is exactly 'http-proxy-host = 172.16.0.1' and at the end of the line do a CR (Enter) just in case |
| 03:38.50 | rahul_cool | thanz buddy............. |
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| 03:38.58 | rahul_cool | its working great |
| 03:38.59 | madant | no more errors ? |
| 03:39.05 | rahul_cool | no |
| 03:39.10 | madant | k.. have fun hacking brl-cad :) |
| 03:39.37 | rahul_cool | hey can u help me in running brlcad?? |
| 03:40.02 | madant | er ? come back to irc if you need any help ? |
| 03:40.29 | rahul_cool | can u give me ur id...just in case... |
| 03:40.31 | copenhague | hello anyone using salome over here? |
| 03:40.36 | madant | somebody will be here most of the time.. |
| 03:40.50 | madant | copenhague: anything particular ? |
| 03:41.01 | copenhague | just looking for inputs |
| 03:41.11 | copenhague | i'm thinking about installing it |
| 03:41.31 | copenhague | i think salome is better than bricad |
| 03:41.40 | copenhague | what do you think madant? |
| 03:41.41 | madant | aah.. i tried it out last year.. :D remember the installation was tough on debian :D |
| 03:41.58 | copenhague | now theres the caelinux right? |
| 03:42.05 | copenhague | i'm on opensuse |
| 03:42.28 | madant | er.. u meant to say salome is better than brlcad ? |
| 03:42.34 | madant | grrr.. :D |
| 03:42.46 | copenhague | i don't know |
| 03:42.49 | copenhague | you tell me |
| 03:43.01 | copenhague | i have the feel that is better |
| 03:43.08 | madant | i don't think so.. last time i checked salome's UI and functionality was very minimal and besides they deal with different things really |
| 03:43.37 | copenhague | i think i'll try bricad then |
| 03:43.56 | madant | brlcad :) |
| 03:44.04 | madant | what do u plan to use it for ? |
| 03:44.27 | copenhague | is there a nc simulation on bricad? |
| 03:44.41 | copenhague | just to 3d designs, modeling |
| 03:44.48 | madant | :) am not an expert |
| 03:45.01 | copenhague | i'm a cnc programmer and looking for modeller for free |
| 03:45.03 | madant | u planning to do designs or numerical simulation ? |
| 03:45.08 | madant | ah.. ok.. |
| 03:45.21 | copenhague | designs |
| 03:45.32 | copenhague | and or numerical simulations |
| 03:46.02 | bjorkintosh | which cnc machine do you work with, copenhague? |
| 03:46.07 | madant | hmm.. i don't have a good answer .. so i must shut up :D |
| 03:46.37 | madant | llikes stereolithography better ;) |
| 03:46.51 | copenhague | all kind, i do programming bjorkintosh |
| 03:47.00 | copenhague | mills 3, 4 axis |
| 03:47.06 | copenhague | multiaxis machines |
| 03:47.07 | bjorkintosh | lathes? |
| 03:47.09 | bjorkintosh | okay. |
| 03:47.19 | copenhague | i'm strong on multiaxis not lathe anymore |
| 03:47.34 | copenhague | the multiaxis are lathe as-well |
| 03:47.41 | copenhague | you? |
| 03:48.12 | madant | is off to church :O |
| 03:48.28 | copenhague | bjorkintosh, are you into cnc? |
| 03:48.48 | copenhague | is there a good cnc tool for linux other than gcam |
| 03:48.51 | copenhague | ? |
| 03:49.35 | madant | copenhague , you should stick around.. there are some crazy people on this channel who will be able to offer better comments :) |
| 03:49.51 | copenhague | sure, thanks |
| 03:49.58 | copenhague | i'll be back all teh time |
| 03:50.00 | bjorkintosh | copenhague, not me. there're some crazy people ... ah, what madant said. |
| 03:50.17 | copenhague | so you guys think that i'm crazy hum. |
| 03:50.19 | copenhague | :) |
| 03:50.22 | copenhague | just joking |
| 04:00.19 | bjorkintosh | i'd never seen salome. |
| 04:00.45 | copenhague | http://caelinux.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=52&func=view&id=2495&catid=2 |
| 04:01.13 | copenhague | the last audi car was all designed with salome and caelinux |
| 04:01.30 | bjorkintosh | hah. |
| 04:01.35 | bjorkintosh | that tells me nothing, to be honest. |
| 04:01.48 | bjorkintosh | a good number of cars were designed long before CAD tools came to exist. |
| 04:02.02 | copenhague | i know |
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| 04:19.02 | Ralith | bjorkintosh: it tells you audi thought it was the appropriate tool |
| 04:20.28 | bjorkintosh | i rather think it was arbitrary. |
| 04:20.45 | dreeves | Yeah but to bjorkintosh that still doesn't really mean anything it could have been the appropriate tool for alot of reasons that may not be relevant to anyone else |
| 04:20.48 | bjorkintosh | they could have achieved the same results with a good #2 pencil and a great drawing curve. |
| 04:21.13 | bjorkintosh | and some rulers too :) |
| 04:21.52 | bjorkintosh | but i'm looking at salome's screenshots. |
| 04:22.10 | bjorkintosh | is it pronounced 'saloMAY' or 'saLOAM'? |
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| 06:05.34 | dreeves_ | brlcad I think addressed all the issues you brought please let me know if you catch anymore style problems. I have defined the style in my editor so I don't have to remember to follow the style |
| 06:05.44 | dreeves_ | I submitted a new patch |
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| 06:09.49 | dreeves_ | ok so I think I did that wrong I submitted a whole new tacker but I realized I should have attached so I opened the other tracker and attached sorry about that |
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| 07:10.21 | rahul_cool | hello all |
| 07:11.11 | rahul_cool | when i gave the command ./autogen.sh for configuring ...the output comes |
| 07:11.14 | rahul_cool | Unable to locate GNU Autoconf. |
| 07:13.45 | rahul_cool | any one here to solve this problem please |
| 07:39.04 | rahul_cool | on giving ./configure command the output comes........ |
| 07:39.16 | rahul_cool | configure: error: *** compiler cannot create working executables, check config.log *** |
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| 10:14.59 | piksi | brlcad: the no.1 thing brl-cad would need for realistic usage in architecture and building industry is IFC |
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| 11:07.02 | rahul_cool | hiiiiiiii |
| 11:08.08 | _sushi_ | brlcad: do people keep telling you which all things are necessary in brl-cad? |
| 11:18.54 | louipc | rahul_cool: do you have autoconf installed? |
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| 11:33.21 | brlcad | rahul_cool: for what it's worth, gsoc requires participants to be highly self-motivated able to figure out problems on your own -- we're here to help you when you get stuck, not hold you hand every step of the way -- just keep that in mind |
| 11:37.59 | brlcad | dreeves_: okay, will look at it |
| 11:40.28 | brlcad | piksi: agreed, and actually rather doable given our object representation and attribute/value system |
| 11:41.32 | brlcad | ifc data is essentially metadata over a functional building representation, not unlike what we do for modeling vehicles functionally for ballistic analyses |
| 11:43.10 | piksi | brlcad: do excuse my ignorance (haven't yet dug deep into brl features) but how are materials represented in brl models? are composite materials easy to use with the current system (e.g. a wall with concrete + structural steel with insulation on top of it and panels on top of that etc...) ? |
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| 11:45.32 | brlcad | piksi: right now, brl-cad defines material properties at a "region" level -- which is intended to refer to a single relatively homogeneous material type per region, but then also allows application-specific attributes to be associated with any object |
| 11:48.12 | brlcad | e.g. a wall with concrete + structural steel would either be defined with a concrete wall region and the structural steel actually modeled (which is usuall trivial with CSG) as a region, or you make one "wall" region and assign it the responsive properties of 'concrete+steel' as a material, or you can make it concrete and assign it an application-specific set of attributes (such as the structural steel properties) |
| 11:49.26 | brlcad | the same continues with the insulation and panels -- brl-cad is intently designed for high-resolution modeling so you could either physicaly represent the insulation and panels as geometric regions, or similar to the structural steel just associate them as application-specific data associated with said "wall" region |
| 11:49.40 | brlcad | hopefully that makes some sense to you |
| 11:49.56 | brlcad | I used a fair bit of brl-cad geometric terminology in there |
| 11:50.14 | brlcad | an ifc-g importer would certainly be interesting.. |
| 11:50.23 | brlcad | especially given it's also founded in express like step |
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| 16:16.48 | madant | looking at brl-cad codeswarm : a lot of mike and jra awesomeness till now.. lots of years left :D |
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| 16:40.36 | madant | morrison was brlcad :P ? |
| 16:42.20 | madant | and now brlcad is morrison :D |
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| 16:43.27 | brlcad | madant: awesome, you should post the video up on the website! |
| 16:43.54 | brlcad | if there's a way to combine names, that'd be useful |
| 16:44.13 | brlcad | because several of the devs went from one username to another when the project went open source and moved to sourceforge |
| 16:45.37 | madant | hmm.. i havent made the video yet.. will put in better colours and tweaking.. for the video i have to output each frame to png and then combine them to make a .avi or .mov |
| 16:46.19 | madant | don't think there is a name combine feature .. but supports a regex based legend and colouration |
| 16:46.32 | brlcad | like morrison->brlcad and jra->johnranderson and bparker->bob1961, etc |
| 16:46.40 | brlcad | ohloh has a list of how they all map somewhere |
| 16:46.52 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34057 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/shoot.c: A slightly better mod to rt_res_pieces_clean() that skips uninitialized rt_piecestate structures. |
| 16:47.01 | brlcad | speak of the devil.. :) |
| 16:47.07 | madant | hah :) |
| 16:48.56 | brlcad | wonders how it visualizes the open sourcing "event" that made massive changes |
| 16:50.19 | brlcad | madant: not sure if it's useful, but might be able to correlate what you're looking at with this: http://brlcad.org/OLD/statcvs/ and http://brlcad.org/OLD/statcvs.normalized/ |
| 16:51.13 | brlcad | needs to run that again |
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| 17:37.39 | brlcad | howdy mafm_ |
| 17:40.22 | kanzure | hrm, so what's up with that multitouch thread? |
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| 17:53.40 | piksi | brlcad: thanks for a good explanation, i thjink i understood the principles :-) |
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| 18:42.58 | kanzure | so I'm writing up an email for the list regarding the parametrics/constraints stuff yesterday, is there anything in particular I should include that I might forget? |
| 19:19.15 | brlcad | kanzure: heh, kind of a loaded question ;) |
| 19:20.24 | kanzure | too late now :) sent the email |
| 19:20.27 | kanzure | gives his fingers a break. |
| 19:27.34 | brlcad | good lord man |
| 19:27.46 | kanzure | bwahah |
| 19:28.05 | brlcad | there's like 10 discussions there |
| 19:28.09 | kanzure | that's right. |
| 20:06.27 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34058 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/tree.c: Minor formatting. |
| 20:10.14 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34059 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Added ged_inside_internal() to libged and modified ged_inside() to call it. Mged also calls this when getting the inside of something being edited. |
| 21:44.36 | kanzure | brlcad: freedns.afraid.org is back up. |
| 21:56.08 | brlcad | kanzure: the website may be, but the dns is still down |
| 21:56.12 | brlcad | try a direct query |
| 21:56.17 | brlcad | nslookup @ns1.afraid.org heybryan.org |
| 21:57.01 | brlcad | er, s/nslookup/dig/ |
| 21:58.04 | kanzure | and your claim that the reason that I don't yet have these problems is because it's cached on some DNS server I'm using? |
| 21:58.30 | kanzure | hrm. maybe you're just in a crummy geographical location with bad nameservers? |
| 22:00.41 | brlcad | kanzure: heh, I'm sitting a few hundred feet away from one of the 13 root name servers on the planet |
| 22:01.41 | brlcad | "H" is right here |
| 22:04.38 | brlcad | kanzure: my money is on afraid.org doing something wrong or their ISP doing something wrong |
| 22:04.53 | brlcad | for starters, they have self-referential DNS .. you're not supposed to do that |
| 22:06.29 | brlcad | could try http://freedns.ws/en/ or http://zoneedit.com |
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