| 00:00.51 | starseeker | dreeves: here's the other screenshot with the uncommented code: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/d2_270_0_2.png |
| 00:02.10 | Ralith | also nice! |
| 00:18.55 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r34234 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/asc2g.c: renamed getline() to gettclblock() |
| 00:24.48 | starseeker | these are somewhat interesting: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/dented_sphere.png |
| 00:24.58 | starseeker | http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/dented_sph_surf_norm.png |
| 00:27.29 | Ralith | that doesn't look dented so much as holed |
| 00:27.54 | louipc | blind hole |
| 00:28.11 | louipc | needs isometric view |
| 00:28.14 | starseeker | It does appear to represent a removal rather than a surface distortion |
| 00:31.51 | starseeker | the surface normal coloring, however, should be fairly unambiguous |
| 00:32.27 | starseeker | if it were an outward distortion, I would expect the color gradient to run in the same general direction as that of the main sphere |
| 00:38.09 | starseeker | is beginning to think it might be useful to have the option to draw more complete wireframes for the nurb primitives, corresponding to their structure |
| 00:38.37 | starseeker | relating a raytrace to the underlying surfaces, edges, etc just by numbers may be a bit tricky |
| 00:42.38 | brlcad | starseeker: can you create two spheres that match the dented sphere perfectly? |
| 00:42.59 | starseeker | I can try |
| 00:43.04 | starseeker | one second |
| 00:44.03 | brlcad | would be interesting to run pixdiff/pixcmp on the results if the original radii and position values are derivable |
| 00:44.13 | starseeker | hmm |
| 00:44.24 | starseeker | not easily, at least from the l output |
| 00:45.05 | brlcad | can't believe he owes so much this year |
| 00:45.20 | starseeker | winces |
| 00:45.30 | starseeker | doing the late night post office thing? ;-) |
| 00:45.46 | brlcad | oh hell no, stopped that 5/6 years ago |
| 00:45.56 | starseeker | online then? |
| 00:45.59 | brlcad | e-file |
| 00:46.02 | brlcad | yeah |
| 00:46.03 | starseeker | nods |
| 00:46.10 | starseeker | that's how I did it too, except for VA |
| 00:46.23 | brlcad | used to do it all by hand, an all-day event, many forms, all the instructions and subforms |
| 00:46.54 | starseeker | yuck |
| 00:47.00 | brlcad | until one year it got so bad that I worked on them for about 20 hours non-stop (and I knew what I was doing!) and was still running up against the deadline |
| 00:47.15 | starseeker | dreeves: fwiw, I can confirm that the rebuilt sphere is manifesting as holes |
| 00:47.30 | brlcad | I had about two-hours till midnight (blen burnie office was open till midnight), went on-line |
| 00:47.40 | brlcad | did the whole thing in less than half an hour |
| 00:47.47 | Ralith | odamn |
| 00:47.54 | Ralith | that must have been a little frustrating. |
| 00:48.08 | brlcad | it was more amazing |
| 00:48.09 | Ralith | after 20 hours of work |
| 00:48.39 | brlcad | I was dubious that it'd be at all right with all the various forms I had (self-employed, depreciation tables, multiple sources of income, etc) |
| 00:49.30 | brlcad | since it asked more in a wizard-style interface, asking lots of questions |
| 00:50.08 | brlcad | I was already 95% done on paper, so I actually had everything in front of me to verify and it all matched up nicely |
| 00:50.16 | brlcad | so never again after that |
| 00:50.40 | brlcad | this year was hell though, even on-line ... for many reasons |
| 00:51.18 | brlcad | worst. tax-year. ever. (for me) |
| 00:52.44 | brlcad | orders some comfort food |
| 00:57.17 | starseeker | figures new house made things nice and complex... |
| 00:57.28 | brlcad | it did |
| 00:57.41 | brlcad | insanely so |
| 00:57.53 | brlcad | especially purchasing near the end of the year |
| 00:58.00 | starseeker | ow |
| 00:58.08 | yukonbob | what about the cocaine and hookers from your rockstar lifestyle as a BRL-CAD developer? |
| 00:58.17 | ``Erik | hehehe |
| 00:58.38 | starseeker | would hire a CPA or something rather than deal with the headache of truly complex taxes... |
| 00:58.46 | brlcad | yukonbob: they're paid under the table, *shhh* |
| 00:58.52 | yukonbob | heh |
| 00:58.53 | ``Erik | yes, we take private jets when we go out for lunch and all that, and wear leather pants |
| 00:59.05 | yukonbob | LOL leather pants |
| 00:59.10 | yukonbob | hawt |
| 00:59.11 | yukonbob | ! |
| 00:59.17 | ``Erik | yes, they are, a lot of chaffing |
| 00:59.36 | starseeker | scowls at rebuilt sphere |
| 01:00.35 | starseeker | gonna need some way to know what we're raytracing within the nurb and how close it is to any edges/verticies/etc |
| 01:02.34 | ``Erik | hm, since opennurbs has a container for a straight up brep surface, ya think the utah teapot might be a good geometry to experiment with? |
| 01:02.52 | starseeker | could be |
| 01:03.01 | ``Erik | iirc, it's just 16 control points |
| 01:03.51 | brlcad | teapot isn't solid geometry |
| 01:04.04 | ``Erik | wait, no, 28 patches in the original |
| 01:04.14 | brlcad | handling non-solid ON_Brep objects hasn't been looked into |
| 01:04.40 | ``Erik | ah, okie, I figured it might be magically handled in the guts of opennurbs :) *shrug* |
| 01:05.52 | starseeker | this is probably informative once it can be related to the nurbs surfaces: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/rebuilt_sphere_270_0.png |
| 01:05.59 | brlcad | same surface intersection and trimming logic, but that all has to be handled up in the shot() routine |
| 01:07.51 | hippieindamakin8 | silently observes. |
| 01:08.08 | starseeker | it's almost as if the surfaces are being rendered up to some maximum absolute x, y or z and then nothing |
| 01:08.08 | brlcad | not so silent :) |
| 01:08.16 | hippieindamakin8 | :P |
| 01:09.15 | starseeker | will have to take a hard look at how the line renderings are done and see if edges can be incorporated as an option |
| 01:09.53 | starseeker | if those it would be helpful to be able to see the makeup of the surfaces |
| 01:11.00 | starseeker | suppose it can be compared with the complete sphere... |
| 01:11.09 | starseeker | alright, I'm getting out of here :-) |
| 01:11.12 | starseeker | bbl |
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| 01:37.36 | dreeves | starseeker yes I confirmed last night it was holes. BTW it is entirely possible to see dark spots with out the slow change in color. I have seen cases where were on the edge of a surfaces and it calculates a normal perpendicular to the ray. In order to confirm it wasn't that I checked every normal and when one was near perpendicular I reset to reverse the ray direction which will make the pixel light up they didn't |
| 01:39.34 | dreeves | so obviously it was a hole which really surprised me because I wasn't getting errors for odd number of hit points. If it missed on the front it should have hit on the other side and reported errors. I isn't which means it isn't only missing the front but also the surface behind it |
| 01:41.23 | dreeves | that is what drove me to rt from different ae when I noticed everything went to hell in a hand basket pdq. Was some what encouraging though believe it or not because at least it isn't wasn't a tolerance problem. Just dealing with something wrong. |
| 01:44.59 | dreeves | I don't think it is anything real serious because obviously we are able to calculate intersection and appear to that we somewhat understand the trim geometry. BTW I can turn off trimming and still see the problem so this isn't trimming doing this. |
| 01:47.35 | dreeves | The front side it is scary because it looks like an edge but I don't think it is because when I shot from the other angle a lot more was missing than an edge. IMO something is going on with interpretation of the geometry that is causing the problem |
| 01:48.03 | brlcad | dreeves: note that the phong shader will automatically flip a backward-facing normal |
| 01:48.37 | brlcad | should see "shade_inputs(object) flip N ..." messages if it does |
| 01:50.33 | dreeves | yeah I new that was the case but if it is near perpendicular and not perpendicular or more I was thinking it might not be flipping that |
| 01:50.59 | dreeves | either was it is definitely a hole |
| 01:51.15 | brlcad | yeah, if it's just "nearly" perpendicular, it'll come back |
| 01:51.37 | dreeves | are you saying it will flip it? |
| 01:51.39 | brlcad | BN_VECT_ARE_PERP() is using the default tolerance |
| 01:51.53 | brlcad | if it's nearly perpendicular, it won't |
| 01:52.03 | dreeves | right that was my thinking |
| 01:53.15 | dreeves | The delay in me working this isn't because I'm struggling I just got busy on the day job. I'm actually pretty confident we can fix this pdq |
| 01:53.47 | dreeves | I was worried when I thought it was a tolerance issue but now that I know it isn't I feel better |
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| 01:55.37 | brlcad | nods |
| 01:55.50 | brlcad | there are plenty of tolerance issues remaining, no worries there ;) |
| 01:58.58 | dreeves | nods :) |
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| 04:28.44 | PrezKennedy | looks like it |
| 04:28.52 | PrezKennedy | whole bunch of you guys got dumped at once |
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| 11:13.53 | d-lo | mernin all! |
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| 11:20.10 | d-lo | howdy there brlcad! |
| 11:20.21 | brlcad | hellos |
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| 11:34.22 | mafm | hi |
| 11:34.55 | d-lo | hai mafm! |
| 11:35.03 | brlcad | d-lo: nice work commenting on the apps |
| 11:35.20 | d-lo | puffs out chest. |
| 11:35.21 | d-lo | thanks! |
| 11:35.35 | brlcad | if any jumped out at you over the one that you're assigned to, mentors can still be swapped around |
| 11:35.55 | brlcad | technical mentoring is still group-based, but the mentor assigned does much of the logistic tracking |
| 11:36.42 | d-lo | I was actually thinking about the GUI project.... might be a better fit for me. If starseeker doesn't care of course. |
| 11:37.16 | brlcad | everyone wants the gui :) |
| 11:37.46 | d-lo | I don't think i could provide the proper level of mentoring for libpc, revolve/sweep, or BREP. |
| 11:39.27 | brlcad | remember that it's not so much the technical side, it's just being able to keep track of how much they've done |
| 11:39.31 | brlcad | how active they've been |
| 11:39.42 | d-lo | Importers, sure, but the hardcore math stuff I am not so strong with. |
| 11:39.48 | brlcad | how much of what they said they were going to do did they actually finish |
| 11:40.12 | d-lo | okay, thats as much as i figured. Its the 'technical questions' that are sure to pop up ;) |
| 11:40.26 | brlcad | technical questions belong to the whole team |
| 11:40.37 | brlcad | they should intentionally be out in the open |
| 11:40.43 | d-lo | but i suppose there is a decent support network in place. |
| 11:41.22 | brlcad | for example, there should be no private discussions -- no PMs on IRC to talk technical issues |
| 11:41.29 | d-lo | pffft. look at this. 'we can still swap mentors around' but when i take him up on the offer, its 'Noooooooooooooo sir!' ;) |
| 11:41.36 | brlcad | should all be on this channel or on the wiki or on the devel mailing list |
| 11:41.37 | d-lo | j/k |
| 11:42.06 | brlcad | nah, that's possible -- have to talk to cliff |
| 11:42.33 | brlcad | libged connection is why you were added to the one you're on |
| 11:42.46 | brlcad | since that relates to the GS a bit |
| 11:42.52 | d-lo | its all good. I am happy where I am at. |
| 11:42.53 | brlcad | but the gui has a similar connection |
| 11:43.11 | d-lo | can't shy away from new things *too* much |
| 11:43.13 | brlcad | and more importantly, gui should be using GS directly |
| 11:43.39 | brlcad | just I don't expect it'll actually get that far over the summer |
| 11:43.54 | d-lo | well now, i just might have to crack the whip a bit ;) |
| 11:43.58 | brlcad | would rather see the gui get to a solid framework state with no/little backend support |
| 11:44.07 | brlcad | have it look good |
| 11:44.12 | d-lo | 'what the 'ell is Google payin ya for boy?!' :) |
| 11:44.34 | d-lo | agreed |
| 11:45.42 | d-lo | is there anyway to make Saunders wire in the gui to the existing build system vice cmake ? |
| 11:46.57 | brlcad | how so? |
| 11:47.15 | brlcad | it alread is using cmake |
| 11:47.24 | d-lo | haven't looked at it in a while, but doesn't the the new gui, g3d, or whatever its called use cmake? |
| 11:47.39 | mafm | yes, it is |
| 11:47.52 | d-lo | points to mafm. There he is! |
| 11:47.56 | brlcad | it works similar to the gs -- you build and install brl-cad, then it builds against the brl-cad libs in cmake |
| 11:48.30 | d-lo | just wondering if it would be cleaner to keep the build systems uniform, thats all. pros/cons? |
| 11:48.38 | brlcad | he actually updated it to use our pkg-config files too, so it finds the deps to link against nicely |
| 11:48.48 | mafm | I just didn't understand the Saunders, wire and vice words in your phrase :D |
| 11:49.17 | brlcad | d-lo: lemme know when you're done converting all of the main module build to cmake and we can talk about integration :) |
| 11:49.54 | brlcad | otherwise it could be an autotools based project, but we'd picked cmake because it's generally better for new code |
| 11:50.52 | d-lo | ah, kk. So would it be 'better' to make rt^3 build via cmake since its techically all 'newer' code? |
| 11:51.09 | brlcad | yeah |
| 11:51.43 | d-lo | strokes his chin. Hrm.... |
| 11:51.58 | mafm | isn't it yet? |
| 11:52.11 | brlcad | rt^3's build predates cmake being useful so it was mirrored off the main module |
| 11:52.23 | mafm | ops :) |
| 11:52.24 | brlcad | mafm: not yet |
| 11:52.54 | d-lo | wonders if a convert to cmake, now, would be better, rather than waiting till rt^3 gets more complex and cluttered... |
| 11:53.28 | brlcad | it would |
| 11:53.54 | brlcad | further it goes, the more entrenched and less beneficial a move |
| 11:53.57 | mafm | coreInterface is small, shouldn't be much of a problem I guess, if not already |
| 11:54.28 | d-lo | grumbles about just getting this blasted Work computer working with autotools... |
| 11:54.44 | mafm | ogre & co. in src/other are using their own build systems (but called from cmake IIRC), I produced cmake for RBGui and Mocha that will be gone |
| 11:55.08 | brlcad | like the main module -- the cost vs benefit just isnt there for us to convert the build to cmake because it's so well developed, complete, with lots of tuned behavior and options that would be very time-consuming to replicate and retest in cmake |
| 11:55.37 | d-lo | nods at brlcad. |
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| 11:55.48 | brlcad | so autoconf isn't going away anytime soon :) |
| 11:56.05 | brlcad | we'll just have two |
| 11:56.30 | d-lo | two? build systems? |
| 11:56.34 | brlcad | actually still works rather nicely to have distinctly separate barrier between the lib layers |
| 11:57.13 | brlcad | yeah, two build systems -- the core (brlcad) and then an overlay (rt^3) |
| 11:57.33 | d-lo | kk, just making sure I understood what you typed =D |
| 12:00.21 | d-lo | as for rt^3/src/ director structure, i am thinking of doing some re-organizing. It kinda bugs me that there are several aspects of the project going on at the same time with little to no communications and people are putting things wherever they want (myself included) |
| 12:01.45 | d-lo | and if the rt^3 dividing lines (GUI, GS, GE) are acceptable, I am thinking of re-org'ing the dirs a bit to represent that. |
| 12:01.45 | d-lo | especially if we end up with multiple GUIs |
| 12:03.03 | mafm | ok for me, svn preserves history and everything, so no big disadvantages |
| 12:03.59 | d-lo | I think daniel is the only other major worker bee in the rt3 module, so I might email him/use the devel mailing list. |
| 12:04.15 | d-lo | of course, i might just re-org now and as permission later ;) |
| 12:04.46 | brlcad | yeah, those should definitely be three distinct "products" by themselves with GS dependent on GE, GUI dependent on GS, all three dependent on core |
| 12:04.48 | d-lo | and thats just cause I dont know what is 'politically correct' in the OS world yet :) |
| 12:05.12 | d-lo | core == common stuff |
| 12:05.14 | brlcad | re-org would be great, but it should be communicated |
| 12:05.15 | d-lo | -or- |
| 12:05.22 | d-lo | core == brlcad module |
| 12:05.25 | d-lo | ? |
| 12:05.25 | brlcad | brlcad module |
| 12:05.26 | d-lo | kk |
| 12:05.58 | brlcad | they may have some common code, classes that are shared -- but I wouldn't plan for them having shared sublibs just yet |
| 12:06.33 | brlcad | as that common code probably just belongs down with GE if it is common |
| 12:08.03 | brlcad | should e-mail daniel (or any dev) directly on dev matters, the mailing list communicates that openly much better |
| 12:08.15 | brlcad | it's a pretty small list, not like the discussion wanders off-topic into arguments |
| 12:08.33 | d-lo | heh, 'down with GE'.... 80's rap song about General Electric... |
| 12:09.41 | brlcad | how about proposing the overall reorg structure to the list, then work towards that structure incrementally |
| 12:11.19 | d-lo | brlcad: working on an email right now. I do not think that it will cause much of a 'wave in the water' to reorg src/ into src/guis/ src/gs/ src/ge src/common and src/other |
| 12:11.31 | brlcad | or at least making the changes incrementally so that if an issue comes up, it's not mixed in with 100 other reorg changes |
| 12:11.52 | d-lo | nods. Understood |
| 12:12.24 | brlcad | heh, I wouldn't plan on multiple guis until we have a distinct need |
| 12:12.28 | d-lo | plus it will give a good history and allow people to make fun of me when i do something stupid =D |
| 12:12.36 | brlcad | have enough work ahead to get one working well |
| 12:12.49 | brlcad | what is src/common? |
| 12:13.25 | d-lo | place to put code common to guis/ gs/ and ge/ (if it actually exists) |
| 12:14.13 | brlcad | bikeshed difference, but src/GUI, src/GS, src/GE (caps) would reflect their c++ nature well :) |
| 12:14.23 | d-lo | i only thought that src/common might be useful since the guis may not want to include the entire libge |
| 12:14.29 | brlcad | ah, that was my point earlier -- if it's actually common, it probably belongs in GE |
| 12:15.56 | d-lo | yeah, i was thinking about that point, and i can't come up with anything that the GUIs would need that would be in GE... but I suppose we can work that issue when it arises |
| 12:16.13 | d-lo | 'if' it comes up at all. |
| 12:16.19 | brlcad | yeah |
| 12:16.25 | brlcad | leave it out until needed |
| 12:16.37 | d-lo | you minimalist you. |
| 12:16.55 | hippieindamakin8 | giggles |
| 12:17.10 | brlcad | the various lib dirs in src/lib* were organized that same way you're suggesting before GE came on the scene |
| 12:17.25 | brlcad | those libs collectively were the start of a GE themselves |
| 12:17.44 | brlcad | geometry, image, network, numeric, raytrace, and utility (common) services |
| 12:17.50 | d-lo | well then, sounds like an easy mv command or two! |
| 12:18.01 | d-lo | ;) |
| 12:18.28 | brlcad | most everything daniel's done to date fits under that geometry category |
| 12:18.53 | brlcad | GS picked up that network category |
| 12:19.08 | brlcad | (so ge longer has it) |
| 12:26.01 | d-lo | your words speak true. I had felt a disturbance in the rt3 module for some time, but couldn't put my finger on what it was.... |
| 12:26.03 | brlcad | it shouldn't be too hard to get a consensus on the basic layout -- more just an issue of merging the right things together without losing any of the invested effort on the old or various new codes that have since kicked off |
| 12:27.36 | brlcad | there's actually not much duplication as it is, just four people that have ignored what the previous coder left in place :) |
| 12:28.02 | d-lo | are you refering to lib* dirs? |
| 12:28.42 | brlcad | for the first guy, yeah |
| 12:28.56 | brlcad | then the next guy ignored the lib dirs and what the second guy added |
| 12:29.15 | brlcad | then the next guy ignored the lib dirs, what the second guy added, and the third guy, ... :) |
| 12:29.22 | brlcad | kinda funny, but classic |
| 12:29.31 | brlcad | mostly because it's a sandbox |
| 12:29.52 | brlcad | wasn't a pressing need to hardline the organization until recently |
| 12:30.11 | brlcad | so time to refactor! |
| 12:32.07 | brlcad | plus the switch in build systems made it even more tricky to merge them half-way through |
| 12:32.17 | brlcad | and is really the brunt of the work even now |
| 12:32.54 | brlcad | the org itself isn't complicated or riddled with pitfalls (unless code is deleted) |
| 12:33.03 | brlcad | it's wiring up the build |
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| 13:17.03 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: an exception with an error message similar to bu_bomb |
| 13:17.03 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: The implementation/return value of std::exception::what() depends on the |
| 13:17.03 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: compiler (it is not in the standard). That's why there is now a |
| 13:17.03 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: BRLCAD::bad_alloc derived from std::bad_alloc which carries a hopefully useful |
| 13:17.05 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: message. |
| 13:20.39 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r34236 10/rt^3/trunk/ (20 files in 2 dirs): the core interface now compiles under Linux too |
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| 15:17.23 | PrezKennedy | waves to brlcad |
| 15:17.31 | brlcad | howdy |
| 15:17.35 | brlcad | digest all that meat yet? |
| 15:17.38 | PrezKennedy | yeah! |
| 15:17.43 | PrezKennedy | finally |
| 15:27.03 | ``Erik | uh, way tmi |
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| 16:31.40 | jdoliner | have selections been announced publicly somewhere? |
| 16:39.04 | pacman87 | jdoliner: official announcement is still the 20th, i believe |
| 16:40.19 | pacman87 | although the topic disagrees with me |
| 17:01.04 | jdoliner | yeah, this is what led to my confusion as well |
| 17:01.09 | jdoliner | how many slots did yu guys get? |
| 17:01.44 | brlcad | 5 |
| 17:02.15 | brlcad | ah right, topic .. the selections are pretty near final on the 15th, but we cannot announce until the 20th |
| 17:03.09 | *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || Release 7.14.6 posted (20090403) || GSoC2009 Next Step: selections are made, they will be announced (by Google) on the 20th | |
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| 17:20.20 | brlcad | howdy poolio |
| 17:20.37 | poolio | ahoy! |
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| 17:21.40 | hippieindamakin8 | hey brlcad , pacman87 |
| 17:21.51 | brlcad | poolio: how goes the semester? |
| 17:21.58 | brlcad | howdy hippieindamakin8 |
| 17:22.08 | poolio | I just was catching up on e-mail... are the mentor-student assignments all worked out? |
| 17:22.16 | brlcad | yeah |
| 17:22.32 | brlcad | unless you want an assignment, you're welcome to one |
| 17:22.42 | brlcad | really shouldn't be assigned, for example |
| 17:22.53 | poolio | brlcad: it's been good, but insanely busy. working two jobs and 7 classes :) |
| 17:24.46 | poolio | hmm, well it looks like the only project I could possibly be helpful on is the BREP on BREP one, and it looks like there's already someone who is not you on that. I'll definitely be idling around here over the summer and try to provide as much help as I can, maybe even finish up on some of that CSG -> BREP stuff now that I get it |
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| 17:26.19 | brlcad | poolio: the assigned mentors are more for logistic tracking, not technical guidance -- technical is group-shared so you can help out with that one regardless |
| 17:26.39 | brlcad | also, selections aren't announced, so hush on the projects :) |
| 17:26.43 | brlcad | bah |
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| 17:27.01 | poolio | will do |
| 17:27.19 | brlcad | also, selections aren't announced, so hush on the projects .. :) |
| 17:29.31 | poolio | oopsy daisy. sorry bout that... what I meant to say was if such a project were accepted into GSOC then ... |
| 17:29.46 | brlcad | heh |
| 17:30.35 | brlcad | it's okay, if folks were closely paying attention, it's pretty clear who at least 4 of the 5 are |
| 17:31.13 | brlcad | at least .. "in all likelihood" |
| 17:31.39 | elena | ;) |
| 17:34.18 | brlcad | hm, I suppose our project priorities ( http://brlcad.org/BRL-CAD_Priorities.png ) conceivably narrows in a little too |
| 17:34.27 | brlcad | though there are a couple outliers, hm, maybe not |
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| 19:06.03 | dreeves | brlcad and starseeker shoot the dented sphere from the side with trimming definitely not dented |
| 19:06.35 | dreeves | So maybe there still is some issues with trimming |
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| 20:47.23 | jonored_ | ...Well, I can get the principal curvatures for a point on a nurbs surface, but not the associated direction yet... |
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