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``Erik |
bakes dinner and watches
futurama |
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yukonbob |
afternoon, cadheads |
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jonored |
finds the implementation of
what he just derived in amongst the openNURBS code, and
facepalms. |
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02:56.14 |
brlcad |
jonored: hehe |
03:01.26 |
brlcad |
though have to actually look at the
implementation -- some functions they define (and have implemented
in their commercial API product), but don't actually have an
implementation |
03:07.59 |
jonored |
The implementation looks about like what I was
headed at. |
03:12.39 |
brlcad |
cool |
03:13.03 |
brlcad |
that's frustrating but also releiving to find
things like that |
03:13.24 |
brlcad |
like working through a hard math problem, only
to realize it's in the answer key in the back and you got it
right |
03:13.32 |
jonored |
ON_EvPrincipalCurvatures in opennurbs_math.cpp
- it looks plausible that it's doing what it should, I haven't
checked for exact equivalence but it would be surprising. |
03:14.28 |
jonored |
I've gotten a chunk more of an idea how to
approach issues of applied differential geometry, at least
:) |
03:14.47 |
jonored |
(er, would be surprising to have that much and
not doing its job.) |
03:35.16 |
``Erik |
yowza, both daily show and colbert report are
on a roll concerning the "teabaggers" |
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Ralith |
Sir Morrison |
07:21.23 |
Ralith |
hehe |
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_pseudo |
irc on my ipod! |
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pacman87 |
^^ that's me, btw |
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_pseudo_ |
unstable app + unstable wireless |
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pacman87 |
ssh + screen + irssi would be a much better
solution |
09:16.26 |
archivist |
unstable wireless should be killed at
birth |
10:24.33 |
d-lo |
yawns. |
10:24.39 |
d-lo |
Morning all! |
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d-lo |
hahahaha: http://www.rpgjunction.com/verizon_cheque.jpg-48.html |
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brlcad |
a check for 0.002, funny |
11:56.06 |
archivist |
I like the cursor magnifier on that
page |
12:26.44 |
brlcad |
good answer |
12:26.47 |
brlcad |
(dave) |
12:29.07 |
d-lo |
still trying to get the hang of this
Politically Correct talk ;) But thanks. |
12:38.10 |
``Erik |
allows js for that page...
yes, a reasonably neat trick |
12:39.02 |
``Erik |
wait, isn't randall monroe the guy who does
xkcd? |
12:39.56 |
d-lo |
sure looks like it. |
12:40.12 |
archivist |
a google sez yes |
12:45.17 |
d-lo |
``Erik: how many astros you got now?
15 |
12:48.18 |
hippieindamakin8 |
pacman87, some of the people i know run irssi
on this small device called pogoplug using ssh+screen |
12:48.27 |
``Erik |
15 on epsi, 9 on fenix |
12:48.47 |
``Erik |
my two new epsi astros are throwing up
pringles and have no spaceports and eco's in the 70's |
12:48.56 |
``Erik |
plus a few dn's and some ft cloud over
them |
12:49.10 |
``Erik |
NOT profitable targets :D |
12:49.37 |
d-lo |
niceness. |
12:50.09 |
``Erik |
this exercise needs to happen, I have two
planets with empty production queues that can churn out
levis |
12:50.13 |
d-lo |
was poking around on the epsi site last night
and saw your 4K econ. Nice :) |
12:50.25 |
d-lo |
what excersize? |
12:50.39 |
``Erik |
um, the big gathering in 81 to go jack with
anti |
12:51.13 |
``Erik |
after thte slz crash, we got a nap with just
about every 'superpower' we're not friends with heh, but anti has
been hitting the newbs left and right |
12:51.15 |
d-lo |
only been back in the saddle for 2 days now.
:) |
12:54.09 |
d-lo |
when is the 81ex going to launch? |
13:05.37 |
brlcad |
so what level are you two up to? |
13:05.58 |
d-lo |
as in player level? 54 i think. |
13:06.59 |
d-lo |
brlcad: you still playing? |
13:07.09 |
brlcad |
sorta |
13:07.24 |
brlcad |
i keep it going, slowly build up |
13:08.15 |
d-lo |
cool. I got the impression that you quit out
of bordom |
13:08.52 |
brlcad |
pretty well fortified now, fewer and fewer pot
shots |
13:09.19 |
d-lo |
guildless still working out for ya I see
:) |
13:09.25 |
brlcad |
pretty well |
13:09.42 |
brlcad |
and a few guilds that protect me |
13:14.01 |
d-lo |
... how is the ogre library in rt^3 compiled?
I don't see how.... |
13:16.41 |
d-lo |
nm |
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``Erik |
pixie dust |
13:24.21 |
d-lo |
just about :) |
13:24.22 |
``Erik |
I've scrapped some big fleet in gate crashes,
so I'm down to 50ish |
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``Erik |
the game has become more of a combination of
espionage against a possible future competitor and establishing a
network of friends to sucker into seeding a new userbase for
me |
13:25.35 |
``Erik |
O:-) |
13:25.39 |
``Erik |
practices his evil laugh
some |
13:25.45 |
starseeker |
jeez that was weird |
13:25.56 |
starseeker |
has apparently been knocked
off for 2 days |
13:26.17 |
starseeker |
mutter... |
13:26.23 |
starseeker |
where do we stash the archives
again? |
13:27.04 |
``Erik |
archives of what? |
13:27.09 |
starseeker |
irc chats |
13:27.51 |
``Erik |
google tells me http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ |
13:28.27 |
d-lo |
``Erik: are you saying that you have started
work on your game? |
13:28.29 |
starseeker |
scowls at google for not
telling him that |
13:28.56 |
``Erik |
planning, coding toy apps to verify
knowledge |
13:29.07 |
starseeker |
bookmarks it this
time |
13:37.23 |
starseeker |
glares at the cat, who is
mistaking the living room for a race track |
13:37.46 |
d-lo |
better a racetrack than a litterbox! |
13:39.09 |
madant |
~help |
13:39.14 |
``Erik |
give it a potato http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=nkHBuh21AMg |
13:40.23 |
archivist |
heh on the same trak as me ``Erik I just been
watching that kitteh |
13:40.48 |
``Erik |
in ur intarwebz, steelin' ur
branewavez |
13:42.20 |
brlcad |
~logs |
13:42.21 |
ibot |
All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel,
where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such
as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not
logged. |
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d-lo |
d_rossberg: are you around? |
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d_rossberg |
d-lo: partial, i'm writing a reply to your
brlcad-devel mail |
15:22.45 |
d-lo |
kk, thats what I was going to ask about
:) |
16:18.16 |
brlcad |
responds, open to talk here
or list in follow-up |
16:18.56 |
brlcad |
sounds like there's a disconnect about what
the goals of the GS actually are |
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d_rossberg |
brlcad: i looked at the GE header files in
rt^3, they are different from what i did |
16:29.35 |
d_rossberg |
they have even few in common from what i did
in the core interfac |
16:31.34 |
d_rossberg |
maybe GE should be defined more precisely
before this can be decided finally |
16:31.54 |
d_rossberg |
(this was the conclusion of 1)) |
16:33.16 |
brlcad |
d_rossberg: that GE files are very much a
work-in-progress -- several of the classes there belong over in the
GS, not the GE, for example |
16:33.37 |
d_rossberg |
this could be the point |
16:33.45 |
brlcad |
all that is left is a few geometry object
classes |
16:33.55 |
brlcad |
and that overlaps very much with what you've
done |
16:34.13 |
brlcad |
your classes are more in-line with the
direction it still needs to go regardless |
16:34.23 |
d_rossberg |
and many of them are already in work (the
object classes) |
16:34.36 |
brlcad |
you mean in core? |
16:36.41 |
d_rossberg |
the cone, torus etc. (8 pieces) are currently
in work for the core interface |
16:37.14 |
brlcad |
much of what is presently in the GE dir was
worked out primarily as a means to sort out what the GS needed to
accomplish its task, some stubbed, some that needed to be in GS but
was put into GE, it's not actually all been "sorted out" -- the
emphasis was on the GS |
16:37.44 |
brlcad |
so it can (and necessarily will) change, quite
a bit |
16:38.13 |
brlcad |
from a design goal perspective, though, what
was done in jbrlcad and what you've done in core are what GE is
supposed to envelop |
16:38.49 |
d_rossberg |
you see, if i look at what i have (brlcad
wiki, sources in rt^3) i have to come to the conclusion GE !=
coreInterface |
16:39.03 |
d_rossberg |
therefore i will wait for the
changes |
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d_rossberg |
e.g. dave may show how he would like to see
the coreInterface integrated into his concept of a GE |
16:40.39 |
d_rossberg |
on the other side, his top-down approach
wasn't so bad |
16:41.29 |
d_rossberg |
my impression was, the the GE is a concept of
how a CAD interface should look like |
16:42.06 |
d_rossberg |
then we may see how this concept can be
realised with help of the core interface |
16:42.24 |
brlcad |
yeah, I think that's the biggest
difference |
16:42.35 |
brlcad |
you were coming at it bottom-up, he was
top-down |
16:43.07 |
brlcad |
your experience with LIBRT greatly influenced
the bottom-up (and is probably why I like it so much) |
16:43.17 |
brlcad |
his top-down was mostly driven by GS
requirements |
16:43.52 |
brlcad |
there's a middle ground in there somewhere I'm
sure, and it's closer to LIBRT than it is to the GS.. |
16:45.25 |
d_rossberg |
is away (for some
minutes) |
16:45.42 |
brlcad |
I would like to (very LONG-term) end up with
an API similar to Geomis/ACIS/Solidworks, etc, but not so much
mirroring their API as using our libs and requirements and building
up an API that allows apps to be written that utilize the GE (for
writing viewers, CAD modelers, visualization apps, etc) |
16:45.58 |
brlcad |
too, must clean
house |
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``Erik |
clean mine while you're at it |
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``Erik |
http://www.netzgesta.de/sphere/
heh, noscript makes it look pretty stupid though :) |
18:54.25 |
``Erik |
I do like that it has a fake "guru meditation"
window that the js hides, that's nifty |
18:55.17 |
``Erik |
eck, license suckage, though |
18:55.28 |
d-lo |
yeah saw that. |
18:55.39 |
d-lo |
but hey, hack hac hack. |
18:57.22 |
``Erik |
hm, 'onmousemove' is nifty, it's vrry fast on
osX ff |
19:05.21 |
d-lo |
``Erik: email sent! |
19:06.28 |
``Erik |
w00t |
19:08.43 |
B_wooster |
is sorry for the
spam |
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19:58.13 |
``Erik |
has another lowhanging fruit
idea for people new to BRL-CAD development and looking for a tiny
project |
19:58.46 |
``Erik |
opendb -r myfile.g for forcing a read-only
open (even if the file permissions allow write) |
19:59.44 |
``Erik |
(and a read-only checkbox in the db open
dialog) |
20:09.13 |
jonored_ |
Is there somewhere I can grab a nurbs object
to test this with? I can't seem to find the .g files for the test
cases shown at http://brlcad.org/wiki/BREP_Primitive
and would like to see whether I'm getting plausible curvatures
out... |
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dreeves3 |
jonored hang on I will tell you where you can
get the .g file |
20:57.20 |
dreeves3 |
http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/nurbs_test.g |
20:57.30 |
dreeves3 |
jonored_^^^^^ |
20:58.07 |
dreeves3 |
open nurbs is giving good curvatures....What
are you working on? |
21:00.40 |
brlcad |
notes that should be http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/nurbs_tests.g |
21:02.18 |
CIA-28 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1418
10/wiki/BREP_Primitive: /* Current Images of test cases */ link to
the test geometry |
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jonored_ |
dreeves2: Oh, did you already get
rt_brep_curve done and just not have it in the repo? |
21:26.49 |
brlcad |
I think he just meant in general |
21:27.03 |
brlcad |
curve() and norm() are still unimplemented
afaik |
21:32.15 |
jonored_ |
Actually, I'm pretty sure that the proper
implementation of norm given the current implementation of shot
/is/ an empty method. It looks (at least to me) that shot is
filling it in already. |
21:32.44 |
brlcad |
shot does a guess based on the hit point and
ray direction if the primitive did nothing |
21:32.53 |
brlcad |
if that's the right answer, the primitive
should still do that work |
21:38.02 |
jonored_ |
I mean that rt_brep_shot is setting hit_normal
already - looks to me like it's getting the information as part of
finding the point anyhow, so might as well keep it. |
22:04.15 |
brlcad |
hmm |
22:04.22 |
Ralith |
afternoon all |
22:04.28 |
Ralith |
how goes, jonored_? |
22:08.23 |
jonored_ |
Not bad. Heading out soon, though. |
22:08.40 |
starseeker |
ooo -
http://www.fabathome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Fab@Home:Model_1_Bill_of_Materials#Full_System_CAD_Files |
22:10.05 |
brlcad |
starseeker: heh, interesting find |
22:10.30 |
starseeker |
adds it to his archive of
open cad goodies |
22:10.49 |
starseeker |
will need to get ahold of a working Solidworks
to properly convert it though |
22:10.54 |
brlcad |
good set of test cases if someone works on the
sldprt converter |
22:11.18 |
brlcad |
ah, they provide conversions already
too |
22:11.35 |
brlcad |
for at least one of them |
22:12.12 |
starseeker |
nods |
22:12.21 |
starseeker |
I don't think that's the full model
though |
22:14.05 |
brlcad |
wonders if starseeker would
rather be mentoring a certain (unmentionable until the 20th)
applicant that is presently assigned to me given his
interest |
22:14.12 |
starseeker |
the source code seems to be BSD licensed - not
sure if that applies to the models... |
22:14.15 |
starseeker |
checks |
22:14.32 |
starseeker |
ah |
22:14.44 |
brlcad |
kinda right up your alley :) |
22:14.44 |
starseeker |
yeah, that might work |
22:15.05 |
brlcad |
related to GS priority too |
22:15.17 |
brlcad |
(loosely) |
22:15.19 |
starseeker |
is just a sucker for nice
purty screenshots of sophisticated models in BRL-CAD
;-) |
22:15.46 |
starseeker |
not to mention the test case angle |
22:16.24 |
Ralith |
pretty pictures are always great
fun. |
22:16.36 |
brlcad |
I think it would be awesome if you could just
upload an unspecified file to a site and have it give you a sheet
of information about it -- objects in the file, types, conversions
to other formats, various automatic renderings |
22:16.55 |
Ralith |
mightn't that be a pretty big CPU
load? |
22:17.02 |
Ralith |
I suppose heavy use of nice would render that
moot |
22:17.02 |
brlcad |
so queue it up |
22:17.21 |
Ralith |
I'd just be concerned about scalability if it
got popular |
22:17.30 |
starseeker |
brlcad: that only works for non-commercial
formats though |
22:17.40 |
Ralith |
not hard to distribute, though. |
22:17.40 |
starseeker |
proe/solidworks/etc. are a no-go |
22:17.47 |
brlcad |
starseeker: not necessarily |
22:17.51 |
starseeker |
blinks |
22:17.52 |
brlcad |
exporting sure |
22:17.56 |
Ralith |
starseeker: why? patents? |
22:17.56 |
brlcad |
but not importing |
22:18.06 |
brlcad |
that's just up to our ability to read/write
them |
22:18.06 |
starseeker |
Ralith: file format parsing |
22:18.08 |
jonored_ |
Would look kind of like thingiverse.com but
doing more? |
22:18.20 |
brlcad |
sldprt is a published spec iirc -- that's why
it's on my list |
22:18.31 |
starseeker |
oh - solidworks part? |
22:18.33 |
brlcad |
sltprt/sldasm files are like iges |
22:18.51 |
brlcad |
complex support but easily parsed |
22:18.56 |
starseeker |
nods |
22:19.09 |
brlcad |
someone motivated could probably whip
something up in a really short amount of time |
22:19.15 |
starseeker |
I was sure Pro-E was a non-starter
though? |
22:19.44 |
brlcad |
jonored_: interesting, hadn't heard of
them |
22:20.17 |
brlcad |
depends -- it is possible, but it'd take more
development effort |
22:20.28 |
starseeker |
(actually, can't take credit for finding the
fab@home models - emailed and asked ;-) |
22:20.37 |
brlcad |
the converter we have wasn't made to be
stand-alone -- it was made to be a pro/e plugin |
22:20.56 |
starseeker |
right |
22:20.57 |
brlcad |
but the unigraphics converter, for example,
was similarly designed but is stand-alone |
22:21.23 |
starseeker |
either way though, I'd have thought licensing
restrictions would put the kabosh on wholesale conversions like
that |
22:21.30 |
brlcad |
their libraries allow linkage and
redistribution after you go through some horribly absurd
locking/unlocking process |
22:21.51 |
starseeker |
blinks |
22:22.36 |
brlcad |
it's a lot easier to explain by going through
the process but basically (at least for unigraphics/nx) you link up
your exporter against their libraries and it works just fine for
your licensed system |
22:22.42 |
brlcad |
but it won't work anywhere else |
22:22.52 |
starseeker |
ah |
22:22.58 |
brlcad |
then there's another "unlock" step that you
apply to your binary |
22:23.15 |
brlcad |
takes about a half-hour (and has nothing to do
with cpu time) |
22:23.26 |
brlcad |
then that binary will work anywhere |
22:23.37 |
starseeker |
interesting |
22:23.54 |
brlcad |
that's how we used to distribute it .. and one
we should get around to updating and getting working again next
time someone needs to poke NX |
22:26.25 |
brlcad |
jonored_: yeah, looks sort of similar to
thingiverse but little more focus on the models and model data
itself and less/no focus on what it's used for |
22:30.14 |
brlcad |
wonders if that is a rails
app |
22:32.16 |
jonored_ |
doesn't know how they've got
that set up, but it's associated with the reprap
crowd. |
22:32.28 |
brlcad |
nods |
22:32.52 |
brlcad |
understandable, strong focus on rapid
prototyping and machining |
22:33.08 |
brlcad |
cool, http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:249 |
22:33.42 |
Ralith |
yeah, it's zach's |
22:34.30 |
starseeker |
hmm - stl |
22:34.47 |
Ralith |
everything reprap is stl right now. |
22:34.52 |
Ralith |
kind of a shame |
22:35.20 |
Ralith |
in fact, it was reprap and the horrid lack of
good CAD free tools that got me into CAD in the first
place |
22:35.27 |
brlcad |
starseeker: if you've not seen this ..
contains most of the classics: http://www.lodbook.com/models/ |
22:36.06 |
starseeker |
oo - thanks |
22:36.18 |
starseeker |
I'd see the stanford site with their
models |
22:36.34 |
Ralith |
stanford seems to have a lot of small
statuettes. |
22:36.40 |
brlcad |
yeah, but they also link to a bunch of other
entire repositories of models |
22:37.14 |
brlcad |
Ralith: they are one of the main powerhouses
that kicked off most of the research on converting laser-scan data
into 3D models |
22:37.24 |
Ralith |
cool |
22:38.09 |
brlcad |
you can't go to siggraph without seeing a
stanford bunny at least .. a few times |
22:38.25 |
starseeker |
hmm... not to many that sound like they're
really "open source" |
22:38.30 |
Ralith |
yeah, I"ve seen that around |
22:39.09 |
starseeker |
's favorite visual from last
year was a plastic bunny getting squeezed out of a press
:-) |
22:39.38 |
hippieindamakin8 |
brlcad, woah ... |
22:39.42 |
brlcad |
I'd like our model repository to specifically
cater to unrestricted use copyleft style |
22:39.56 |
starseeker |
would suggest we require
it |
22:39.56 |
Ralith |
is someone applying to do that? |
22:40.09 |
brlcad |
starseeker: absolutely -- it's just "how
far" |
22:40.16 |
starseeker |
ah, good poing |
22:40.17 |
starseeker |
er point |
22:40.31 |
starseeker |
do my bidding, fingers! |
22:40.51 |
brlcad |
e.g. whether to allow free for any use
whatsover, exept commercial use, style licenses |
22:41.01 |
brlcad |
as that is most of the academic
models |
22:41.18 |
starseeker |
those are annoying, but quite common |
22:41.31 |
starseeker |
I would say have a distinct, non-commercial
section |
22:41.34 |
starseeker |
make it clear up front |
22:42.12 |
Ralith |
that seems to invite the creation of all sorts
of sections for various licenses |
22:42.20 |
Ralith |
not a very clear place to draw a
line. |
22:42.25 |
starseeker |
Ralith: no, not really |
22:42.38 |
starseeker |
some sort of filtered search is the general
solution |
22:42.55 |
Ralith |
why not just prominently display the license
for each model, and leave it nice and general? |
22:42.58 |
starseeker |
but the commercial/non-commercial use
distinction is pretty common |
22:42.59 |
brlcad |
on the other extreme, whether to allow
something akin to a "GPL" licensed model, or limit it only to
LGPL/BSD/MIT/BY/BY-SA style licenses |
22:43.27 |
starseeker |
isn't even sure what GPL/LGPL
really mean for CAD models |
22:43.47 |
brlcad |
Ralith: mostly to avoid the problem of things
like CGAL where all the best stuff is untouchable, and you have to
hunt individually |
22:44.08 |
Ralith |
wouldn't a flexible search system as is par
for the course these days suffice? |
22:44.15 |
brlcad |
starseeker: the spirit of those license, there
are "CC equivalents" to GPL |
22:44.24 |
starseeker |
no, you don't want to parade the
non-commercial stuff |
22:44.36 |
starseeker |
make it available, but encourage the totally
free licenses |
22:44.47 |
Ralith |
I suppose isolating it would encourage people
to license their stuff otherwise |
22:44.52 |
brlcad |
Ralith: possibly, but still can end up with
the issue of having all the best stuff be untouchable |
22:45.07 |
starseeker |
exactly |
22:45.33 |
Ralith |
hadn't considered that many models probably
won't already have a license associated |
22:45.48 |
brlcad |
specifically towards being a repository of
freely unencumbered models that I know I can use |
22:45.51 |
Ralith |
(thus requiring the author to choose one in
the context we present) |
22:45.51 |
starseeker |
open source CAD models are pretty
rare |
22:46.03 |
brlcad |
exceptionally rare |
22:46.12 |
Ralith |
here's to hoping we can change that. |
22:46.18 |
starseeker |
so the time to start a trend is now
:-) |
22:46.21 |
Ralith |
^^ |
22:46.42 |
starseeker |
if a good body of freely available (commercial
and non-commercial) models can be created and get most of the
attention, that builds a momentum |
22:47.18 |
Ralith |
good PR for brl-cad itself, too. |
22:47.19 |
hippieindamakin8 |
ex: the model of the bussard reactor
core |
22:47.23 |
starseeker |
sort of the way the FSF built up the GPL - if
OpenSolaris had appeared just when the GPL was getting started, the
world would probably look rather different now |
22:48.21 |
Ralith |
hippieindamakin8: got a link for
that? |
22:48.23 |
Ralith |
is curious |
22:48.38 |
brlcad |
also to be clear, really don't want to get
into the business of how people license their works -- just want
the scope of the repository to be a well-defined useful resource --
"open source" CAD models |
22:48.39 |
Ralith |
you mean the model that guy was working
on? |
22:48.50 |
jonored_ |
hippieindamakin8: I was thinking the same
thing... a good drawing of the internals of a polywell would be
shiny... |
22:49.04 |
starseeker |
yes, only concerned with licensing of cad
models as a means to an end |
22:49.16 |
hippieindamakin8 |
Ralith, yeah the one famulus is working
on |
22:49.20 |
Ralith |
kk |
22:49.39 |
starseeker |
the end being lots of good quality free models
:-) |
22:50.12 |
starseeker |
hmm |
22:50.21 |
starseeker |
(the cat insists on being petted) |
22:50.31 |
Ralith |
cats do that. |
22:50.46 |
hippieindamakin8 |
http://prometheusfusionperfection.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/fusor-core/ |
22:50.50 |
hippieindamakin8 |
Ralith, ^ |
22:50.53 |
brlcad |
ideally even scoping the site even further to
distinguish or require that the models also be solid geometry, so
that they are "real world" models |
22:51.00 |
Ralith |
hippieindamakin8: yeah, I remember
that |
22:51.46 |
brlcad |
things I could feed to a CNC or rapid
prototyper or an analysis, compute weights/moments on, calculate
volumes, etc |
22:53.08 |
Ralith |
oh yeah |
22:53.11 |
Ralith |
jonored_: how's the slicer doing? |
22:53.41 |
hippieindamakin8 |
brlcad, i guess the repository can be
integrated into drupal |
22:53.58 |
brlcad |
into anything really |
22:54.22 |
jonored_ |
Ralith: Most of the way cleaned up, but still
taken a back seat to graduating. |
22:55.05 |
Ralith |
of course. Looking forward to playing with
it. |
22:57.22 |
Ralith |
brlcad: did you have any further input on my
milestones/timeline? |
22:59.19 |
brlcad |
Ralith: not today :) |
22:59.29 |
Ralith |
kk |
22:59.34 |
brlcad |
is decompressing a
little |
22:59.50 |
Ralith |
that's always nice. |