| 00:38.42 | brlcad | branco: without installing blender? :) |
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| 01:01.40 | brlcad | thinks you maybe meant brl-cad.. what is the exact error? the ogl interface is disabled by default via configure, though you "shouldn't" need it |
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| 02:49.09 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34298 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/rt.c: remove and undeadify code to print raytrace status. Tcl_Eval doesn't belong in libged, so make the summary as a simple bu_log for now. include tcl.h regardless as there still are other tclisms that need to go away. |
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| 04:20.17 | starseeker | archer needs the ogl interface as of latest trunk, iirc |
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| 08:47.29 | downstream | morning |
| 08:47.56 | downstream | currently trying to build 7.14.6 on mac os x |
| 08:48.24 | downstream | fails at libTkhtml3.0.dylib |
| 08:48.30 | downstream | missing symbols: |
| 08:48.44 | downstream | ld: Undefined symbols: |
| 08:48.44 | downstream | _XCopyArea |
| 08:48.45 | downstream | _XFillPolygon |
| 08:48.45 | downstream | _XFillRectangle |
| 08:48.45 | downstream | _XGetImage |
| 08:49.05 | downstream | sounds like it needs -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 |
| 08:49.31 | downstream | wonder why it builds on linux, though ;) |
| 09:19.17 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r34300 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/brlcad.def: access to bu logging |
| 09:26.10 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r34301 10/rt^3/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:26.10 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: access to libbu's log messaging system |
| 09:26.10 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: the default is no log messages at all |
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| 10:46.30 | d-lo | mornin all |
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| 11:30.39 | brlcad | downstream: that's libXi, missing a -lXi |
| 11:31.20 | brlcad | er, never mind, you're right -- that is -lX11 |
| 11:33.26 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r34302 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/CMakeLists.txt: |
| 11:33.26 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: bring the core's C++ interface to live by integrating it into the brlcad.dll |
| 11:33.26 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: the raises a question about giving version numbers to rt^3 or integrating the affected parts into the brlcad branch |
| 11:36.54 | downstream | brlcad: :) |
| 11:37.23 | downstream | why does that -l only get missed on darwin? |
| 11:37.36 | downstream | (assuming that tarball actually builds on linux) |
| 11:39.18 | downstream | should i just add it to LDFLAGS globally? or better hack the Makefile.in? |
| 11:40.44 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34303 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: include the logging example snippet in the header with a comment about stderr/stdout possibly changing. |
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| 11:45.01 | ``Erik | should work fine on osX :/ |
| 11:52.52 | brlcad | downstream: without any more information, I'd assume it's some probably with automake and configure -- did you run autogen.sh? |
| 11:53.52 | brlcad | the X11 tests that are put into configure are dependent on the version of automake that was available with autogen.sh was first run so if you have a source tarball, it may be someone else's automake/autoconf |
| 11:54.01 | brlcad | unless you rerun autogen.sh again |
| 13:07.24 | ``Erik | huh, soleil moon-frye got pretty hot O.o |
| 13:13.14 | downstream | brlcad: nope, only ./configure |
| 13:13.55 | downstream | i'll try redoing the autoconf/automake dance |
| 13:51.04 | brlcad | downstream: you just have to run ./autogen.sh |
| 13:51.06 | brlcad | no dance |
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| 15:22.58 | downstream | brlcad: same result, after autogen.sh & configure |
| 15:23.15 | downstream | the -I's are there, the -L/-l is not |
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| 19:53.40 | starseeker | is intrigued by cscope |
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| 19:54.01 | miqlas | Hello! |
| 19:54.11 | starseeker | howd |
| 19:54.36 | miqlas | The http://brlcad.org/wiki/Building_from_SVN page contains some interresting links: |
| 19:54.38 | miqlas | <a href=http://www.titizilaclama.com/ title=ilaçlama >Ilaçlama</a> <a href=http://www.etkinilaclama.net title=Haºere ilaçlama> Haºere ilaçlama</a> <a href=http://www.cozumilaclama.net title=böcek ilaçlama> Böcek ilaçlama</a> <a href=http://www.pire.biz title=pire>pire</a> <a title=joomla href=http://www.sanaldev.net/indir/joomla> joomla tema</a> |
| 19:54.45 | miqlas | Please, remove this... |
| 19:54.58 | starseeker | hmm, musta been spammed... |
| 19:55.00 | starseeker | checks |
| 19:56.39 | miqlas | Thanks. |
| 19:57.46 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03128.63.32.5 07http://brlcad.org * r1435 10/wiki/Building_from_SVN: Undo revision 1285 by [[Special:Contributions/78.183.51.7|78.183.51.7]] ([[User talk:78.183.51.7|Talk]]) |
| 19:58.38 | starseeker | thanks for pointing it out |
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| 20:08.34 | miqlas | Hello. |
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| 20:15.06 | miqlas | X server required for running BRL-CAD? |
| 20:18.27 | starseeker | not on windows - on mac and Linux yes |
| 20:22.35 | miqlas | I try to build BRL-CAD on Haiku. |
| 20:24.06 | starseeker | uh. Yeah, you will almost certainly need X |
| 20:24.30 | starseeker | doesn't know about the status of things like Tcl/Tk and OGL on Haiku |
| 20:24.48 | miqlas | We have Tk, but no Tcl :( |
| 20:25.11 | miqlas | I can't build it :( |
| 20:25.40 | starseeker | blinks |
| 20:25.49 | starseeker | I didn't know you could build Tk without Tcl |
| 20:26.16 | miqlas | Oh, maybe i mistyped then. |
| 20:26.26 | miqlas | I check... |
| 20:27.19 | miqlas | Yes, Sou have right, i mistyped, we have Tcl, but no Tk. |
| 20:28.31 | miqlas | *You* |
| 20:37.09 | ``Erik | darn, I was about to be seriously impressed :D |
| 20:56.14 | brlcad | strictly speaking, X11 isn't required even for mac/linux, you just won't get gui mged |
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| 22:04.10 | brlcad | miqlas: do you know jorge? |
| 22:04.33 | miqlas | Jorge G. Mare? |
| 22:04.37 | brlcad | yep |
| 22:04.45 | brlcad | takes that as a "yes" :) |
| 22:04.50 | miqlas | Yes, sometimes i meet with her on the Haiku IRC. |
| 22:05.13 | miqlas | i understand this word: "yep". No problem. |
| 22:05.31 | miqlas | His nickname is koki |
| 22:06.16 | miqlas | You know him? |
| 22:07.35 | brlcad | usually kokito, no? |
| 22:07.54 | brlcad | and I mean you saying his full name was a "yes" |
| 22:08.19 | miqlas | koki or kokito, i thin it is the same. But he use the koki name on the official Haiku webpage: http://www.haiku-os.org/user/koki |
| 22:08.21 | brlcad | I've only interacted with him and urias on a few occasions, so no I wouldn't say I know him |
| 22:08.39 | brlcad | yeah, just happens to be kokito on irc iirc |
| 22:09.07 | brlcad | loves haiku, loved beos, wants it to be better |
| 22:09.14 | miqlas | Urias McCullough, ummcullough is a good person too. |
| 22:09.32 | miqlas | brlcad want it with BRL-CAD :) |
| 22:09.33 | brlcad | met a few of the other developers at the gsoc summits |
| 22:09.45 | miqlas | Ah, okay, i understand. |
| 22:10.18 | brlcad | I think brl-cad would be awesome on haiku :) |
| 22:11.12 | miqlas | But! It need an easy to use, and Haiku native user interface, i think. But yes, first we will happy for an dirty port too |
| 22:11.13 | brlcad | just need someone to port qt over for the new gui! |
| 22:11.51 | miqlas | I hope somebody take up the tk and qt, and port it well for Haiku. |
| 22:12.19 | brlcad | tk should be pretty easy |
| 22:12.27 | brlcad | it used to have beos support, just a lot of updates |
| 22:13.10 | miqlas | Maybe we will have it: http://dev.osdrawer.net/projects/activity/qt-beos |
| 22:15.14 | brlcad | I've wanted to work on porting apps to haiku .. |
| 22:15.27 | miqlas | I don't say no :) |
| 22:15.28 | brlcad | i usually try about once or twice a year to get something going |
| 22:15.45 | brlcad | have been following for five years or so |
| 22:15.59 | miqlas | But i don't think i can help to You. I know only configure & make & make install. |
| 22:16.13 | miqlas | And we don't need "-lm" for Haiku. :) |
| 22:16.20 | brlcad | but every time I get bogged down in bugs and crashes, then exhaust all my time fixing those bugs with the devs :) |
| 22:17.00 | brlcad | it's not until very recently that it's actually been practical and easy to compile within haiku itself |
| 22:17.32 | miqlas | Yes, i understand. But hey! You don't need wait so long, we almost have an alpha system. There is the roadmap for it... |
| 22:17.42 | miqlas | This is very close now. |
| 22:18.27 | brlcad | nods |
| 22:18.36 | brlcad | they were very close last year too, and I found a half-dozen bugs for them :) |
| 22:19.02 | miqlas | Remember, we talking about a pre-alpha os.... |
| 22:19.15 | brlcad | yep, all in good fun |
| 22:19.32 | miqlas | Please, forgive it to the Haiku. It will better and better every day. |
| 22:19.39 | brlcad | like I said, I dug in and helped fix them too |
| 22:20.26 | brlcad | at some point, I'll do an install, open up a terminal and have gcc at my disposal with a functional networking stack and I'll be able to really get started on a porting effort ;) |
| 22:21.11 | ``Erik | cranks up emacs and lisps out with his parens out |
| 22:21.34 | miqlas | :) |
| 22:22.14 | miqlas | This will be my diplom work, if You interrested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkGzC167GdM |
| 22:22.39 | miqlas | Sorry for the video quality. This is not the final product. |
| 22:23.57 | ``Erik | are ya gonna manufacturer one? |
| 22:24.07 | miqlas | not yet. |
| 22:24.26 | miqlas | But may the university make a sample. |
| 22:25.30 | ``Erik | nice http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1908328 |
| 22:26.19 | brlcad | miqlas: that's pretty cool |
| 22:26.29 | miqlas | Thanks, brlcad :) |
| 22:26.47 | brlcad | wants someone to model a stirling engine in brl-cad as a test case for the constraint solving system |
| 22:27.29 | brlcad | miqlas: willing to open-source your model? :) |
| 22:27.37 | miqlas | Sorry, i don't have time now for learning BRL-CAD :( |
| 22:27.56 | brlcad | would be a good brep test case too |
| 22:27.59 | miqlas | My diplom work will be published under CC. |
| 22:28.12 | brlcad | which CC? |
| 22:28.25 | brlcad | cc-by? |
| 22:28.57 | miqlas | Creative Commons, Noncommercial-Share Alike |
| 22:29.15 | brlcad | ah, darn |
| 22:29.31 | miqlas | I think it is good for diplom work. And if somebody need it, he can make derivates. |
| 22:29.42 | miqlas | brlcad, it is not good for You? |
| 22:29.46 | brlcad | yeah, just cc-by-nc isn't lgpl compatible due to the nc clause |
| 22:30.24 | miqlas | But i don't like to see my teacher sell my work in his book. |
| 22:30.26 | brlcad | it's an okay license, just problematic for bundling it with brl-cad directly |
| 22:31.38 | miqlas | Ah, but i think You don't need thousand s page hungarian language text... Then i can make an anoither package, only the CAD (may without parametric things) with lgpl compatible license. |
| 22:32.14 | miqlas | Or not? I don't know lot of things about it.. |
| 22:32.21 | brlcad | yeah, I don't care about your thesis so much (no offense, of course) :) |
| 22:32.39 | brlcad | you can do whatever you want with it assuming you hold the copyright |
| 22:32.45 | miqlas | You need parametric or non-parametric model? |
| 22:32.46 | ``Erik | hard to get into a thesis when ya don't speak the language :D |
| 22:33.04 | miqlas | :) |
| 22:33.05 | ``Erik | (often hard to get into a thesis when you DO speak the language O.o) |
| 22:33.33 | brlcad | miqlas: ideally the original files, whatever those are, and then exports in a few formats (parametric and non-parametric) like step, iges, and dxf exports |
| 22:34.37 | brlcad | looks like you probably have sldprt,sldasm files |
| 22:34.53 | miqlas | The Hungarian is an very beautifoul language, i think : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGaRnVTLK4Q |
| 22:35.18 | miqlas | And we have muuuuuch lot of bad words than the english or german. |
| 22:35.49 | archivist | miqlas, was that being rotated or does soliworks 2009 do gases and pressure as well now /me is at 2004 |
| 22:36.06 | miqlas | If You like the traditional musis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhLbq-3uNU (this is the last link, and i don't post more, You can beluive to me :) |
| 22:36.34 | brlcad | miqlas: feel free to expand my list then! .. https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/misc/multilingualSwearList.txt |
| 22:36.54 | brlcad | hungarian is rather under-represented |
| 22:37.22 | Ralith | lol |
| 22:37.34 | miqlas | archivist: , i added an virtual motor like thingie, but in the real life it works by thermal Stirling-cycle. (Isotherm expansion->Isochoric displacement->Isothermal compression->Isochoric displacement) |
| 22:37.57 | archivist | heh I used to know turkish and arabic swear words mid 1960's |
| 22:39.03 | archivist | miqlas, I know how they work :) have done pressure diagrams for steam engine (turbo pascal) |
| 22:39.39 | miqlas | Realy? Oh... I have excel table for it :) |
| 22:40.32 | archivist | modelling a steam engine expansion governor was fun |
| 22:41.35 | miqlas | :) |
| 22:42.14 | miqlas | My stirling-engine video is very old, i almost redesigned now in CATIA V5 (brlcad, the CATIA format will good for You?). |
| 22:43.06 | archivist | http://www.archivist.plus.com/website/tour/dynamo.html that engine but the code is circa win95 , cant run it now :( |
| 22:43.46 | brlcad | miqlas: hm, catia is probably the hardest to work with (but exports from there are fine: step, iges, etc) |
| 22:44.17 | miqlas | Okay, the i will give the modell for You in independent format. |
| 22:44.45 | miqlas | This is my CAxx album, but sorry, there is not all of my work (sometimes i can't put it to here): http://boly.hu/~miqlas/galeria/index.php?album=g-p-szet |
| 22:44.49 | brlcad | awesome |
| 22:45.58 | brlcad | that solidedge gear is pretty cool |
| 22:46.24 | miqlas | brlcad, here is my email address: miqlas(_____at_____)gmail(_dot_)com , feel free to contact me. |
| 22:47.14 | miqlas | brlcad: SEv10 is useless. It is an crap. But i was need use this version, because the university was have only this. I don't like remember for that. |
| 22:47.27 | miqlas | I have video about that gearbox, if You want see it. |
| 22:48.19 | brlcad | nah, the model itself is what is most interesting :) |
| 22:50.02 | miqlas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYGRiRTyYV0 |
| 22:50.38 | miqlas | My Quadro FX 4000 was don't have enough power for it... |
| 22:51.35 | miqlas | brlcad, if You want i can provide the SolidEdge assembly for You. |
| 22:52.00 | archivist | does solidedge have gear mates? |
| 22:52.14 | miqlas | I don't know. I hate the SE. |
| 22:52.35 | miqlas | I was need to use it, but i hate all of the SE products. May, or may not have. |
| 22:52.44 | archivist | ok |
| 22:53.49 | miqlas | brlcad, do You need the assembly. I can give it to You under GPL. |
| 22:54.51 | miqlas | CATIA, SolidWorks is the best, i think (but not for anything). But for me the most interresthin thing is the FEA. |
| 22:55.28 | ``Erik | "Jamie Hyneman Is A Douchebag" http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1908740 yeesh, what a cockbite |
| 22:56.16 | miqlas | But i have the gearbox only in SEv10 academoc format... |
| 22:56.40 | miqlas | On the next week i can convert it to step for You. |
| 23:03.33 | miqlas | In the last semester i have "CAD-technics" subject. And what we learn? Yes, AutoCAD. Bah! I use it more than 8 years long... But we use it ...SURPRISE.. with commands. not with icons. Oh my God!... I hate this subject, because i can use AutoCad very well, and i need draw lot of small drawings, because my teacher don't belive to me.. :S |
| 23:45.09 | Ralith | commands? |