IRC log for #brlcad on 20090428

00:12.03 Ralith brlcad: uh, might this be the brlcad.org server? 'cuz I can't load it
00:12.04 Ralith pings, though.
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00:36.13 brlcad fsck in progress, connectivity intermittent (and it required a reboot)
00:37.11 Ralith O.o
00:39.58 brlcad that unmount of /tmp was very bad :)
00:40.19 pacman87 so that's where my screen went...
00:40.42 brlcad yeah, all services seized up .. not just the screen sessions
00:41.41 brlcad which is really odd -- the mount point itself would have remained and fallen back to the root fs
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00:43.29 pacman87 although i still haven't found a way to send pgup/pgdn
00:52.46 madant is doing an fsck on his system too
00:53.03 madant is doing fsck on his system too
01:00.50 Ralith pacman87: did you try my suggestion a while back?
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01:01.49 poolio brlcad: server all fixed? :P
01:01.55 pacman87 about pgup/pgdn?
01:05.37 Ralith yes
01:07.05 pacman87 i think i did, but i don't remember which suggestion was yours
01:07.49 Ralith had to do with some config file
01:08.40 pacman87 xmodmap?
01:09.18 Ralith don't think so
01:09.21 Ralith something in /etc
01:09.29 pacman87 inputrc?
01:09.32 Ralith yeah
01:10.10 pacman87 yeah, but i think i got the commands wrong
01:10.19 Ralith I suggested doing "\e[whateverforkeyyouhave": "\e[whateverforpageuporpagedown"
01:10.28 pacman87 since i successfully remapped F6 to print "F6"
01:11.08 pacman87 i don't think that's the right syntax, but i'll try it
01:11.22 Ralith well modify as appropriate
01:11.40 Ralith but you said "\e[whateverforF6": "F6" worked
01:11.46 pacman87 yes
01:11.46 Ralith so I think this might, too
01:11.54 Ralith 'cuz I'm pretty sure those are just POSIX escape sequences
01:12.06 pacman87 tries
01:12.30 hippieindamakin8 brlcad, u dod mention that there are better ways than those in nmg_junk
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01:29.03 pacman87_ so that kind of worked, but not in irssi
01:36.54 brlcad poolio: yeah, it required a reboot to fix an fs issue
01:38.14 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34329 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bn.h: ws consistency cleanup and column alignment
01:42.37 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34330 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/prep.c: add semicolons so it indents properly
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01:47.13 starseeker that was weird
01:49.11 Ralith pacman87: you could script irssi.
01:49.29 Ralith in fact, I bet it might not be hard to just bind different keys to the scrolling function
01:49.32 Ralith even if you have to hack the code
01:58.19 brlcad starseeker: there was a reboot to fix a critical fs error on /tmp
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02:13.11 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34331 10/brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h: fix a macro typo/bug where spaces were injected. move rt_sketch_ifree down with the other ifree bastages.
02:29.58 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34332 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/proe-g.c: go through rt_get_functab_by_label() instead of calling rt_comb_ifree() directly. abstracts the call and eliminates need for header decl.
02:40.37 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34333 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/raytrace.h src/librt/primitives/table.c): possibly don't need a public declaration of rt_comb_ifree(). still need a decl for a table entry.
02:46.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34334 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/asc/asc2g.c: don't call the ifree() functions directly. use the functab interface so we don't need to export the symbols.
02:47.24 starseeker brlcad: ah :-)
02:47.31 starseeker yeah, that'll do it
03:18.59 PrezKennedyII hey brlcad, if you need a nice sophisticated camera security system... FGS can do that for you ;)
03:21.10 Ralith FGS?
03:27.35 PrezKennedyII its where i work
03:28.57 PrezKennedyII http://facchinaglobal.com/ - the website doesnt do us justice :)
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09:01.46 piksi hm, is the 7.14.6 available somewhere?
09:02.47 brlcad all public releases are available on sourceforge, http://sf.net/projects/brlcad
09:03.02 brlcad we don't make binary releases for every version, though
09:03.11 brlcad so you might have to compile, or use a previous binary release
09:03.45 brlcad all releases are available in our subversion revision source control repository
09:06.06 piksi ah, i was browsing the wrong view..
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09:58.18 piksi hmm, a lot of errors during configure about various makefiles ignoring the --datarootdir option
10:07.45 ``Erik *readreadread* sucks about the car, dude :( /tmp out of inodes? huh, .... all the more reason to migrate? :)
10:08.18 ``Erik there're a couple whines about datarootdir being ignored that we just take... um, like brlman is the one I usually notice being naughty
10:08.40 ``Erik if you don't do anything weird, it won't hurt anything :)
10:10.06 ``Erik 2 reboots? O.O at least we're still in 4 9's actual turf *sigh*
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10:46.34 d-lo .who
10:46.44 d-lo mernin all!
10:56.06 ``Erik heh, ".who" even? :D
11:04.12 ``Erik http://crit.brlcad.org:9090/dinreedit pheer.
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11:31.10 brlcad ``Erik: just one
11:31.36 brlcad oh right, the admin rebooted then couldn't bring it back up and rebooted again immediately
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11:32.55 ``Erik c'mon, dude, I have the base system on the new machine all good,
11:33.25 ``Erik I'll make the dns stuff work... we gotta migrate
11:57.06 brlcad knows, /me knows
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14:30.45 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34335 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/sketch/sketch.c: ifree() is supposed to have a second argument for a struct resource pointer
14:32.44 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34336 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/extrude/extrude.c: another ifree missing its resource pointer and here we actually need it. call rt_sketch_ifree through the functab instead of directly so it's not an exposed public function.
14:35.57 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34337 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/dsp/dsp.c: dsp needs the second struct resource pointer too and hide rt_binunif_ifree() by calling through the functab.
14:38.03 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34338 10/brlcad/trunk/src/external/Unigraphics/ug-g.c: hide rt_sketch_ifree(), call it via the functab.
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14:46.41 piksi does brl use qt or gtk or plain x in linux? i should file a bug report for it not respecting the wm dpi :-/ the menu fonts are humongous
14:58.15 starseeker piksi: tcl/tk
14:58.41 piksi ok thanks
14:59.01 starseeker it might be that the new ttk widgets do better about that - not sure
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15:05.57 brlcad that's intentional, so it'd be a feature request at best
15:06.52 brlcad the guy that works on the gui doesn't see small fonts very well, so he defaulted them big
15:14.17 piksi ah
15:14.29 piksi ok so, a feature request for adjusting font size then ? ;-)
15:22.23 brlcad sure
15:22.44 brlcad archer (mged's eventual replacement) has more sane font sizes
15:23.04 brlcad plus for now, you can override and set your own font sizes for mged too
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15:23.44 piksi that's nice, because imho almost any program should respect gui dpi + font size settings of the wm
15:25.02 brlcad it arguably does in the sense that it's "large" with respect to that default wm font size
15:25.10 brlcad i.e., it's relative
15:25.42 brlcad and I completely understand, just pretty minor on the priority scale :)
15:25.53 piksi :-)
15:26.37 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34339 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (22 files in 21 dirs): a veritable buffet of ifree() changes to make sure the primitives have the right signature (with a resource pointer) and that calls are all made through the functab.
15:27.00 brlcad especially given you can change it, can make it pink wingdings if you like
15:38.32 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34340 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (11 files in 11 dirs): more struct resource parameters missing, should be all of them now
15:40.44 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34341 10/brlcad/trunk/src/external/Unigraphics/ug-g.c: no longer using rt_sketch_ifree directly so remove decl
15:41.47 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34342 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/BrlcadCore.def: should no longer need to export the ifree functions, they're not supposed to be exposed
15:42.20 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r34343 10/rt^3/trunk/src/superceded_GS/: Removed src/superceded_GS/. Old, outdated code.
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15:57.42 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r34344 10/rt^3/trunk/ (36 files in 9 dirs): Refactored src/GemeotryEngine -> src/GE and include/GeometryEngine -> include/GE
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16:05.13 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34345 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/ (6 files in 4 dirs): last last round of ifree updates, make sure everyone passes the second argument.
16:06.05 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34346 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (12 files): hide rt_comb_ifree() too even if it is a bit special. go through the functab like everyone else.
16:25.36 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34347 10/brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h: should no longer need to export rt_comb_ifree, rt_dsp_ifree, rt_ebm_ifree, rt_vol_ifree, and rt_sketch_ifree as everyone should now be going through the functab
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16:26.25 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34348 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/ (7 files in 7 dirs): no longer need to declare _RT_DECL_IFREE as there should be no public ifree funcs that need to be exported.
16:28.14 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r34349 10/rt^3/trunk/ (91 files in 14 dirs): Refactored src/GeometryService -> src/GS and include/GeometryService -> include/GS
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16:32.22 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34350 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/hf/hf.c: big cleanup after #if havoc. now better.
16:39.08 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34351 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ged_private.h: USE_RT_COMB_IFREE is no longer used/needed
16:42.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r34352 10/rt^3/trunk/ (31 files in 7 dirs): Moved io/ into GE/io/
17:19.11 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r34353 10/rt^3/trunk/ (18 files in 17 dirs): Moved all src/lib* dirs into GE with the exception of libNetwork.
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17:50.43 d-lo brlcad: What was the discussion about the src/GUI directories. Did we come to a consensus on how the Thin Client / GUI was going to be organized?
18:06.30 brlcad the main consensus was that GUI didn't make sense
18:07.40 d-lo so it was a terminolgy issue then. *couldn't remember*
18:07.40 brlcad my take on it is to call that directory what it's eventually going to be called, but it's not a pressing need wrt naming conventions exactly what it's named
18:07.50 brlcad more important that the scope be defined for that directory
18:07.58 brlcad there was a couple suggestions
18:08.27 brlcad one was either to just have applications be at the same level as the GS/GE, so src/whatever for the client
18:09.06 brlcad alternative being to have an 'apps' dir, e.g. src/apps but then it's a bit incongruent with the apps that will be in other dirs
18:09.35 brlcad my suggestion towards the name-it-what-it's-going-to-be was src/BRL-CAD or src/brlcad
18:09.58 brlcad since that particular "app" is going to be 'the app' on top of all other apps
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18:10.50 brlcad and will be the one that is installed as the double-clickable "one thing" that starts the system up (from the users' standpoint)
18:14.15 d-lo hrm, so src/brlcad eh?
18:14.26 d-lo sure, why not. :)
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18:19.42 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r34354 10/rt^3/trunk/ (34 files in 8 dirs): Moved src/exception -> src/GE/exception and include/exception/ -> include/GE/exception
18:43.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34355 10/brlcad/trunk/ (17 files in 6 dirs): Added better support for editing arbs in Archer.
19:48.48 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34356 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ (5 files): Configure -geometryObjectPath for arb4, arb5, arb6 and arb7.
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21:59.22 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r34357 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/typein.c: updated pnts primitive 'in' command, added skeleton logic to allow file input
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