| 00:00.19 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34424 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/ (Makefile.am primitives/tor/tor_mirror.c): |
| 00:00.19 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: break out a tor_mirror() routine using the logic nearly identical to what is |
| 00:00.19 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: happening now in rt_mirror() with the exception of using a plane_t instead of |
| 00:00.19 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: pt+dir (so we still reconstruct pt+dir for now). first step towards a new |
| 00:00.19 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: primitive rt_###_mirror() callback on all primitives that takes an |
| 00:00.22 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: rt_db_internal and a plane to mirror across. |
| 00:00.45 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34425 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/table.c: declare this new rt_##name##_mirror() interface for all primitives |
| 00:00.59 | ``Erik | sits up |
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| 00:01.12 | ``Erik | that's C macro abuse that I thought only I did |
| 00:01.14 | ``Erik | :D |
| 00:01.25 | poolio | argh. My external HD died and I fail at keeping two backups D: |
| 00:03.14 | ``Erik | hey, brlcad, if I buy you a tb sata drive, will they shove it in your server? |
| 00:04.33 | brlcad | last time I asked them, they said no but that was over a year ago |
| 00:04.49 | brlcad | they sell them at like 4x markup :) |
| 00:05.06 | ``Erik | heh, but you're colo, not service |
| 00:05.23 | ``Erik | you actually own the piece of hardware in their rack, right? |
| 00:06.33 | ``Erik | *shrug* |
| 00:07.18 | ``Erik | 400 for a tb on a remote server... hrm, and I imagine they're not keen on 'dilbert' style disk packs? |
| 00:07.32 | ``Erik | uh, sun d100 packages |
| 00:08.04 | ``Erik | external disk packs |
| 00:16.05 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34426 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_rt_isect.c: massive cleanup, ws, style, indent, dead code |
| 00:30.00 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34427 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/patch/patch-g.c: massive cleanup, ws, style, indent, dead code, missing semicolons on macros |
| 00:34.20 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34428 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/bigE.c: missing a few semis on macros, clean up comment wraps |
| 00:38.29 | brlcad | another relevant example that's a working radial extension for fireforx (and is mildly interesting, but still suboptimal in many regards) |
| 00:38.44 | brlcad | certainly more developed to production and customizability at least though |
| 00:40.13 | brlcad | and specifically relevant: http://www.qtsoftware.com/products/appdev/add-on-products/catalog/3/Widgets/qtpiemenu |
| 00:40.37 | brlcad | or http://doc.trolltech.com/qq/qq11-piemenu.html |
| 00:42.09 | brlcad | and more boringly, how maya puts them to use: http://hci.deri.ie/%7Eksamp/pie.png |
| 00:47.31 | ``Erik | hm, what about taskfox? |
| 00:47.43 | ``Erik | any opinion on that endeavor? |
| 00:49.07 | ``Erik | the qt ones look decent, the maya one looks bad |
| 01:07.46 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34429 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/plane.c: ws, style consistency, and major comment cleanup |
| 01:09.04 | brlcad | maya's is surprisingly effective, having used it -- it basically eliminates the first level of a right-click context menu showing you the most common right there, then drops down menus for those subactions |
| 01:09.14 | brlcad | just looks like hell, but probably the most used outside of gaming |
| 01:10.30 | brlcad | taskfox is a different beast altogether -- it's fantastic stuff and already part of IEO |
| 01:11.43 | brlcad | it's basically an application-specific version of 'quicksilver' for mac os x, I think they were the first to "make it look good" |
| 01:14.08 | brlcad | if ralith got nothing more than the launcher working for registered commands with the look n' feel cleaned up, keybindings working, overlay working, shortcuts working, and gui conversion .. that's be .. impressive :) |
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| 02:58.01 | Mike111 | hi all |
| 02:59.54 | madant | hi Mike111 |
| 03:00.13 | Mike111 | hi madant |
| 03:01.41 | Mike111 | I am unable to install 7.14.6 on Debian Lenny, P6 (32bit). Sean advised to use this channel for help. |
| 04:59.59 | brlcad | Mike111: thanks for stopping by -- best suggestion at this point is to try a clean build step-by-step and we can then make changes from a known state |
| 05:00.23 | brlcad | start by checking out the SVN sources, run this: |
| 05:00.26 | brlcad | ~cadsvn |
| 05:00.26 | ibot | To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
| 05:01.09 | brlcad | after that, run: sh autogen.sh && ./configure --enable-all && make |
| 05:01.30 | brlcad | then if we hit the link error again, we can try some edits |
| 05:01.30 | Mike111 | thanks, brlcad |
| 05:02.46 | Mike111 | I'm unable to this now, maybe in an hour. How long will you be here? |
| 05:02.47 | brlcad | save a transcript of your console to a file using your terminal's history or via the 'script' command |
| 05:02.58 | madant | we are always here :) |
| 05:03.28 | Mike111 | great. Speak soon. |
| 05:03.30 | brlcad | someone is always here and even if nobody responds, you can post your status/question/nextstep/etc and someone eventually will |
| 05:04.05 | brlcad | like how I just answered you two hours after your statement -- you just stay idle and wait |
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| 07:40.26 | mafm | hi |
| 07:47.10 | pacman87 | good morning |
| 07:48.24 | pacman87 | is currently in the middle of coding tetris in assembly for the 6811 |
| 07:50.26 | pacman87 | anyone know a good way to fit a capital N into a 3x5 pixel font? |
| 07:50.59 | archivist | 3x5!!! too small |
| 07:51.19 | pacman87 | it's for a LCD display with a rather large pixel pitch |
| 07:51.26 | archivist | 5x7 is bad enough |
| 07:51.39 | pacman87 | i only have so much room |
| 07:51.46 | pacman87 | 128x64 pixels |
| 07:52.23 | pacman87 | my N is currently all 5, middle 3, all 5 for the columns |
| 07:53.48 | archivist | I spent many hours making charsets 20 years ago |
| 07:54.19 | pacman87 | i don't really like my K either |
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| 11:48.51 | ``Erik | 6811, awesome, I did some asm and hw work on 6811 and 6812 back in college :) |
| 11:49.11 | ``Erik | 8x8 is the true character space :( pheer c64 |
| 11:49.37 | pacman87 | i've got a 6811 and a 6812 sitting on my desk atm |
| 11:49.45 | ``Erik | um, looking up screenshots of old atari and nintendo games might help with figuring out fonts? |
| 11:49.59 | pacman87 | program the 6811 EEPROM through the 6812 |
| 11:50.06 | ``Erik | heheh |
| 11:50.30 | ``Erik | we had a grab bag of 6811's in my 'digital logic' class, but hte books were all for 6812 |
| 11:50.38 | ``Erik | so we kept finding the minor gotchas |
| 11:51.21 | ``Erik | nice enough chip, reminded my of my 6502 hacking days :) |
| 11:52.28 | ``Erik | brlcad: the maya ss makes me think that position and layout is irregular... like it flies the flag to memorization and muscle memory |
| 12:03.52 | archivist | did a report 6800 v 6502 v 6502 for some maths, 2 meg 6502 won :) |
| 12:04.14 | archivist | one of those should be Z80 |
| 12:04.58 | archivist | Z80 wastes so much time shuffling via the A reg |
| 12:08.48 | d-lo | brlcad: 'Practical Subversion' book... you trying to say sumthin?! =D |
| 12:17.26 | brlcad | d-lo: nope, you were just talking about getting to it soon -- didn't know if you knew that I had that |
| 12:17.29 | brlcad | it covers the libs |
| 12:17.47 | d-lo | I figured, just j/k 'round. |
| 12:18.01 | d-lo | started paging through it since it was on my desk. |
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| 12:58.30 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34430 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/mirror.c: begin migration towards using the rt_*_mirror() interface, setting up the mirror plane equation needed by the primitive. stubbed in for the moment until a bug is fixed (likely introduced during r34263 refactoring) |
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| 13:58.02 | d-lo | brlcad: Build looks like it is failing on mirror.c |
| 13:58.50 | d-lo | -> " *** No rule to make target `mirror.c', needed by `mirror.lo'. Stop. " |
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| 14:15.42 | ``Erik | make distclean might be the lynchpin for ya |
| 14:18.42 | brlcad | yeah, you've not updated in a while (tsk tsk) |
| 14:26.02 | ``Erik | heh |
| 14:42.55 | d-lo | it was building fine *till* i updated :P |
| 14:46.35 | d-lo | and I update daily thankyouveddymuch! |
| 14:50.06 | d-lo | ``Erik: Is the dude fixn yer house? |
| 14:51.13 | d-lo | make distclean ftw. |
| 14:52.30 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34431 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: I apparently broke mirroring a few days ago while refactoring, must fix before release. |
| 14:55.00 | brlcad | hm, that doesn't sound right -- mirror.c was moved on 2009-04-13 |
| 14:55.16 | brlcad | probably just didn't rebuild librt since then |
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| 17:58.32 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34432 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: thought this was already the case, but maybe not.. the dbconcat/concat command no longer requires an affix, allowing it to default to behave as if '/' was specified if no prefix/suffix is provided. |
| 18:05.09 | starseeker | ah - there they are. Open Inventor input routines appear to be in SoInput and SoDB |
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| 19:15.39 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34433 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/scale_ell.c: |
| 19:15.39 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: add comments about how scale_ell seems to be a bad direction to go in as it's |
| 19:15.39 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: specific to a primitive's internal structure (no command should need to know the |
| 19:15.39 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: internal structure of any primitive) and specific to a scaling operation. all |
| 19:15.39 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: objects already define a matrix transformation callback that implements this |
| 19:15.42 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: same logic. |
| 19:21.53 | d-lo | Ralith: How goes the GUI? Done yet? |
| 19:22.01 | brlcad | hehe |
| 20:29.16 | ``Erik | wow, I can't believe how bad this movie is :( "big trouble in little china" |
| 20:29.26 | ``Erik | I thought this was cool in the 80's |
| 20:31.44 | brlcad | it was cool .. in the 80's |
| 20:31.56 | brlcad | so were mc hammer pants |
| 20:32.22 | brlcad | shuffles off sideways saying "you can't touch this!" |
| 20:33.00 | ``Erik | hahaha |
| 20:33.17 | ``Erik | shut up, I had parachute pants in the 80's |
| 20:33.18 | ``Erik | :D |
| 20:33.47 | ``Erik | it was a... special time |
| 20:35.00 | ``Erik | honestly cannot see brlcad doing that irl, thinks he's too meek O.o |
| 20:35.34 | brlcad | i actually used to be able to (somewhat, albeit still geekishly), but yeah .. probably not :) |
| 20:35.57 | ``Erik | have you done iphone dev? |
| 20:36.41 | brlcad | read through much of the docs, have/had the account, and written up some code for it |
| 20:36.54 | brlcad | but nothing noteworthy, just checking it out |
| 20:37.27 | ``Erik | I talked to a friend last night who's an ueber coordinator, he has assembled a crew to write a game and is trying to pin me down as the code monkey, I'm under the impression that it's a pretty simple cocoa/objc dealie, just lookin' for confirmation (or gotchas) |
| 20:38.07 | brlcad | wow.. lotus extrema does 0->60 in 2.8s |
| 20:38.24 | ``Erik | ow, is that electric? |
| 20:38.48 | ``Erik | m3 does 0-20000 real fast ;) *Duck* |
| 20:38.55 | ``Erik | $20,000 that is |
| 20:38.59 | brlcad | nope, just put a beast engine in |
| 20:39.08 | brlcad | http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/lotus/17242-uk-garage-presents-lotus-extrema.html |
| 20:39.19 | ``Erik | you're using what, a 220 hp toyota 4cyl? |
| 20:39.42 | ``Erik | no, 190hp? euro spec is 130hp? |
| 20:39.55 | brlcad | around 190 iirc |
| 20:40.13 | ``Erik | na? |
| 20:41.01 | ``Erik | ok... white boy shoots gun striaght up, bad "pew pew" sound effects, rock comes down and knocks him out.... effin' retarded |
| 20:41.12 | ``Erik | <-- tries not to do the mc hammer shuffle |
| 20:41.59 | ``Erik | (that they can fit a 'vettes v8 "up-rated" engine in an elise is disturbing) |
| 20:43.36 | ``Erik | only $100k, though |
| 20:44.09 | brlcad | yeah, that had to be a feat in itself |
| 20:45.55 | ``Erik | there was, iirc, a camaro model that could do 0-60 in 2.8 |
| 20:46.06 | ``Erik | was pushing over 1k bhp on the flywheel, though |
| 20:46.35 | ``Erik | that low end performance screams electric to me :) |
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| 21:51.55 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34434 10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS: |
| 21:51.55 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: finally was able to reproduce john's error message about tab-completion giving a |
| 21:51.55 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: bind error. seems as though it only sometimes happens, even for -c mode, |
| 21:51.55 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: depending on whether the currently running mged finds tcl resources? either |
| 21:51.55 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: way, it does exist... :) |
| 22:54.41 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34435 10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS: Hmm - Sean spotted where nirt doesn't parse the -e option very well in MGED - space between -e and quote character fails |
| 22:57.10 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34436 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS src/librt/primitives/pipe/pipe.c): Fix bug where raytracing of pipe was crashing if duplicate hit points showed up - incorrect decrementing of *nh was the problem. |
| 22:57.44 | starseeker | does little happy dance |
| 23:01.59 | Ralith | d-lo: well, it was, but then I decided to rewrite it in FORTRAN |
| 23:09.15 | ``Erik | not cobol? |
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