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Ralith |
``Erik: haha |
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elena |
hi |
18:06.24 |
``Erik |
heh, nutty, 5 supercars racing, each with only
a gallon of gas O.o top gear ++ |
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18:25.13 |
alvaro |
which is the qcad channel ? |
18:27.42 |
elena |
i don't see it in this servel list. |
18:28.17 |
alvaro |
is #qcad ? |
18:28.44 |
elena |
try it. it didn't show up in my
listing. |
18:29.19 |
alvaro |
can i get qcad support here? |
18:29.50 |
elena |
i don't know what it is. maybe others
do. |
18:30.13 |
elena |
i've seen some forums about qcad-brlcad
integration. |
18:30.45 |
alvaro |
qcad and brl cad should be
integrated... |
18:33.18 |
alvaro |
is there a command like offset in qcad
? |
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19:21.36 |
``Erik |
/t BRL-CAD - NOT qcad, tyvm |
19:21.38 |
``Erik |
:D |
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19:22.05 |
elena |
too late. he's gone. |
19:22.46 |
``Erik |
I know, thus my willingness to be so
glib |
19:22.59 |
``Erik |
*shineyhappyfaceforthepople* |
19:23.17 |
elena |
:) |
19:23.23 |
``Erik |
people, even |
19:25.02 |
``Erik |
how is your model repo thing going? still
exploring the technologies and preparing? I knwo you submitted last
year but went with another project, I imagine you have a good grasp
of the situation as it relates to your proposal? |
19:25.45 |
elena |
it's going ok. |
19:26.07 |
elena |
yes. i did. and actually it was a good thing i
didn't get in last year. |
19:26.23 |
elena |
i got a change to learn more about brlcad
meanwhile. |
19:26.50 |
``Erik |
ok, for the technical side, we're going with a
mentor "pool", and I'm listed as unattached/admin, *shrug* let me
know how I can help. your success is our success :D |
19:27.22 |
elena |
thank you. I'll "bookmark" you ;) |
19:27.37 |
``Erik |
as long as you don't "favorite" me
O.o |
19:27.47 |
elena |
how was your weekend? |
19:28.02 |
``Erik |
busy, much cleaning of the domicile |
19:28.34 |
``Erik |
I received "lisp in small pieces" on thursday
and haven't had a chance to really sit down with it :( |
19:28.53 |
``Erik |
yours? |
19:29.11 |
elena |
seems like better than yours :) |
19:29.38 |
elena |
did you moved recently? |
19:29.54 |
elena |
or just scheduled cleaning. |
19:29.54 |
pacman87 |
waves to elena and
``Erik |
19:29.56 |
``Erik |
I'd hope so, given that you have the ability
to hop a light rail and go get 'exotic' food and beer
O:-) |
19:30.02 |
elena |
hi pacman |
19:30.29 |
pacman87 |
i'm the 'new primitives' gsocer |
19:31.23 |
``Erik |
make-up cleaning for a long period of squalor,
preparing to sell it |
19:31.25 |
pacman87 |
my weekend was spend coding a pipelined
implemnation of the LC3b |
19:31.33 |
``Erik |
'LC3b'? |
19:31.53 |
pacman87 |
yeah, really minimal instruction set for
teaching purposes |
19:32.02 |
``Erik |
(please make good _tess routines, my adrt/isst
work is all BoT) |
19:32.07 |
pacman87 |
only 14 instructions |
19:32.11 |
``Erik |
ah |
19:32.30 |
``Erik |
I wrote a 'brainfuck' interpreter/compiler
suite for fundamental optimization research, that's fun stuff
:) |
19:32.38 |
pacman87 |
lol |
19:33.00 |
pacman87 |
i finished my tetris in assembly this week,
ended up ~3k when assembled |
19:33.10 |
``Erik |
which arch/os? |
19:33.13 |
pacman87 |
6811 |
19:33.22 |
elena |
isn't tetris the enemy of pacman ? |
19:33.28 |
``Erik |
no os? raw? what vidoe and input hw? |
19:33.46 |
``Erik |
(and why not 6812? we may've discussed this,
but I may not have been very sober) |
19:33.51 |
pacman87 |
input is four switches, output is a 128x64 px
LCD panel |
19:34.01 |
``Erik |
um, I2C lcd? |
19:34.07 |
pacman87 |
because we were given 681's |
19:34.13 |
``Erik |
ah, classwork? :D |
19:34.32 |
pacman87 |
yeah |
19:34.38 |
pacman87 |
6811's * |
19:34.43 |
``Erik |
<-- still curious about how the lcd is
wired pu |
19:34.46 |
``Erik |
up |
19:34.55 |
pacman87 |
no, i put the LCD on the memory bus |
19:35.01 |
pacman87 |
we used an external 8K eeprom |
19:35.08 |
``Erik |
hm |
19:35.14 |
``Erik |
nice |
19:35.17 |
``Erik |
EE class? :) |
19:35.32 |
pacman87 |
i had to switch out the crystal from 8 to 4
MHz to run at 1 MHz so the LCD could keep up |
19:35.38 |
``Erik |
hehehhe |
19:35.40 |
pacman87 |
yeah, embedded systems |
19:36.03 |
pacman87 |
i also had to write my own 3x5 pixel
font |
19:36.21 |
``Erik |
awesome :) when I did my CS coursework many
many years ago, anything that involved touching physical low level
hw was an 'ee' class over in the physics dept... at least we still
did C and asm back then :) |
19:36.49 |
pacman87 |
yeah, i designed the whole thing from the
circuit board on up |
19:36.53 |
pacman87 |
:D |
19:37.23 |
``Erik |
impressive :) |
19:37.56 |
``Erik |
<-- been half tempted to buy a 68040 and
build a crude unix box ground up, so has an idea of the sheer
awesomeness of what ya did |
19:42.37 |
``Erik |
btw, pacman, grab a camera and show us pics of
your masterpiece ;) |
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``Erik |
someone is bbq'ing pig |
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pacman87 |
``Erik: i would take pics, but i haven't
gotten moto4lin working in KDE4 yet to get them off my
phone |
20:08.43 |
pacman87 |
after i finish coding this, i'll reboot into
an install with KDE3 |
20:09.09 |
elena |
is leaving. |
20:09.12 |
elena |
bye |
20:09.16 |
``Erik |
<-- never liked kde, was alwys a gnome
weenie |
20:09.23 |
``Erik |
have a nice evening, elena :) |
20:09.28 |
elena |
thanks. |
20:09.39 |
pacman87 |
farewell |
20:09.55 |
elena |
I liked kde3 better than gnome. now i like
gnome better than kde4. |
20:10.12 |
pacman87 |
``Erik: i'm the opposite (kde vs
gnome) |
20:11.16 |
``Erik |
I first used gnome 0.10, after learning qt...
there were severe weaknesses in qt at the time, and the first kde
that came around was... pathetic... throw in that gcc2.7 sucked at
c++ and took forever on a 120mhz 48m machine, ... :) I turned into
a hardcore C gtk/gnome beeyotch |
20:11.42 |
``Erik |
every time I try qt/kde, it takes effin'
forever to compile and just feels all 'wrong' |
20:11.51 |
``Erik |
trying too much to be like windows to
me |
20:12.11 |
pacman87 |
grew up with windows, doen't
know any better |
20:12.16 |
pacman87 |
doesn't * |
20:12.27 |
``Erik |
that gnucash via macports requires aqbanking,
which requires qt3... that pisses me off. A lot. |
20:12.57 |
``Erik |
ah, I got hooked on 'puters before msdos was
popular :) I look for the os that sucks least in my view, winderz
has never been anywhere in the running |
20:12.59 |
pacman87 |
my first install was slackware 10 |
20:13.08 |
``Erik |
heh |
20:13.18 |
pacman87 |
i remember ms-dos shell |
20:13.25 |
``Erik |
I have a stack of color coded floppy disks
from slackware 2.0 |
20:13.46 |
pacman87 |
then win 3.1 |
20:14.07 |
pacman87 |
i still have the windows entertainment pack
floppy |
20:14.13 |
``Erik |
tried to grab a different color fo reach disk
set, then wrote (in pencil) the set and number... intended to
re-use them, didn't wnat to waste a label |
20:14.16 |
pacman87 |
16 bit apps |
20:14.36 |
``Erik |
hm, 6811 is fun, but I bloodied myself on 6502
:( |
20:14.42 |
pacman87 |
so i got an integer overflow in the high score
table for tetris |
20:14.47 |
``Erik |
and 6510 |
20:15.13 |
``Erik |
steal another bite, on overflow, inc the new
byte and clear the old one |
20:15.16 |
``Erik |
byte |
20:15.35 |
``Erik |
then mush them together for
highscore |
20:15.35 |
pacman87 |
not my tetris, the windows tetris :P |
20:15.37 |
``Erik |
oh |
20:15.39 |
``Erik |
hah |
20:15.39 |
``Erik |
:D |
20:15.49 |
``Erik |
thought you meant your 68HC11
beastie |
20:15.55 |
``Erik |
assumes an
HC |
20:16.03 |
pacman87 |
strangely enough, the negative scores are
still at the top of the list |
20:16.06 |
pacman87 |
yeah, HC |
20:16.17 |
``Erik |
sort must be unsigned |
20:16.26 |
pacman87 |
yeah |
20:16.49 |
``Erik |
simple bit radix sort will do that |
20:16.51 |
brlcad |
finishes giving elle a bath
and removing her bonnet |
20:16.58 |
pacman87 |
it's disappointing that XP x64 can't run
them |
20:17.07 |
pacman87 |
cause they dropped 16 bit support |
20:17.59 |
``Erik |
heh, or unsigned short vs %d/%u
confusion |
20:18.06 |
``Erik |
O.O |
20:18.12 |
``Erik |
oh |
20:18.16 |
``Erik |
the orange thing |
20:18.46 |
``Erik |
brlcad, drive about 30 minutes up 1... then
pick me up and take me to the package store. :D |
20:18.58 |
``Erik |
*duck* |
20:19.00 |
brlcad |
heh |
20:19.04 |
brlcad |
no. |
20:19.16 |
``Erik |
feigns
surprise |
20:20.58 |
``Erik |
(ya'll remembered to call your mothers,
right?) |
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20:23.40 |
morricone_ |
is the solid modeling about modeling
matter? |
20:24.21 |
morricone_ |
anyone know anything about QCad |
20:24.48 |
morricone_ |
and how to digitize images to get coordinate
values of the lines traced out |
20:25.05 |
morricone_ |
kind of modeling geometry not solids |
20:25.09 |
morricone_ |
but still the same |
20:25.20 |
``Erik |
soooorta, in a solid model, ever bit of
geometry has a physical presense in space and can be queried for
things like mass.... qcad seems to be a 2d drafting program more
than anything else |
20:25.43 |
morricone_ |
i m looking for a certain function |
20:25.54 |
``Erik |
that function being? |
20:26.06 |
morricone_ |
and open office org doesnt allow images to be
in the chart windows |
20:26.29 |
morricone_ |
laying down points on an image configured in
on a coordinate plane |
20:26.48 |
morricone_ |
and then extracting the geometric data in the
form of x,y |
20:26.56 |
morricone_ |
and inputting it into open offie |
20:26.58 |
morricone_ |
office |
20:26.59 |
morricone_ |
* |
20:27.17 |
morricone_ |
i cant seem to find the program that will do
that for me |
20:27.23 |
``Erik |
like... converting a raster image into a
vector image? |
20:27.31 |
morricone_ |
yes |
20:27.44 |
morricone_ |
but i want the data |
20:27.53 |
morricone_ |
so i can model the physics in
spreadsheet |
20:27.59 |
``Erik |
that's more of a 2d manipulation, not a
cad/cam/cae issue |
20:28.34 |
morricone_ |
you ever heard of it being a function in an
open source program list? |
20:28.38 |
morricone_ |
any |
20:29.02 |
morricone_ |
it is easy with AutoCAd |
20:29.06 |
morricone_ |
and excel |
20:29.18 |
morricone_ |
the terrible ms programs i know so
well |
20:29.21 |
``Erik |
it's not a thing I follow, sorry... I know the
'sorbel' edge detection algo is simple abd public, I'd imagine it
could easily be walked to find basic splines |
20:29.31 |
``Erik |
but it's just not my scene, I'm
sorry |
20:29.44 |
morricone_ |
no problemo |
20:29.58 |
morricone_ |
i m sure resolution will occur if i
presist |
20:30.04 |
``Erik |
mebbe "gimp" has a fu to make it
happen |
20:30.15 |
morricone_ |
i ll check that out |
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20:31.03 |
``Erik |
hopes he didn't steer that
guy wrong |
20:34.02 |
andax |
gimp has a smart edge detection feature, if
that helps |
20:34.55 |
``Erik |
dude's gone *shrug* I only know sorbel cuz I
implemented it for shits and giggles one afternoon |
20:35.44 |
andax |
i dont know if it can write to .dxf files or
such, anyway... |
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20:50.22 |
alvaro |
how do i start brlcad when you install it from
binary tar.gz ? |
20:50.58 |
alvaro |
[root@alvaro-edicta-host bin]#
/usr/brlcad/bin/mged |
20:50.58 |
alvaro |
/usr/brlcad/bin/mged: error while loading
shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directory |
20:50.58 |
alvaro |
[root@alvaro-edicta-host bin]# |
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``Erik |
means you don't have the same libc++ that it
was compiled against |
20:56.13 |
``Erik |
your best bet is probably to compile it from
scratch, sorry :( |
20:57.10 |
alvaro |
is it difficult to compile it? |
20:58.03 |
alvaro |
where are the instrucions to do it
? |
21:00.00 |
``Erik |
um, untar the source, go into the dir, do
"./compile --enable all && make install" and that's
it |
21:00.37 |
alvaro |
seems easy ..... (too much to be
true) |
21:02.31 |
alvaro |
where are the sources? |
21:03.19 |
pacman87 |
~cadsvn |
21:03.19 |
ibot |
To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn
checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk
brlcad |
21:04.03 |
pacman87 |
although you might want the latest release
instead of svn |
21:04.44 |
``Erik |
same place you downloaded the binary, except
it says "source" instead of "linux x86-32" |
21:05.24 |
alvaro |
i think thi is:
http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=105292&filename=brlcad-7.14.6.tar.gz&a=28288066 |
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