IRC log for #brlcad on 20090511

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06:56.37 starseeker ``Erik: sounds like that guy might have wanted digitizer: http://digitizer.sourceforge.net/
07:19.17 Mike111 .
07:19.56 Mike111 .
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07:20.56 Mike111 hi all
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07:22.44 Mike111 can anyone help with building on Debian Lenny?
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10:35.36 Mike111 .
10:38.19 Mike111 Please note I was not logging the channel on the weekend so apologies if someone had replied to my question, but please reply again. Thanks - Mike.
10:38.23 hippieindamakin8 Mike111, hey
10:38.32 Mike111 hi hippie
10:38.43 hippieindamakin8 Mike111, what seems to be problem out there ?
10:39.16 Mike111 unable to compile 7.14.6 on Debian Lenny
10:39.53 hippieindamakin8 ohh whats the error ?
10:40.18 Mike111 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src/bwish'
10:40.18 Mike111 /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CC --silent --mode=link gcc -I../../src/other/incrTcl/itcl/generic -I../../src/other/tcl/generic -I../../src/other/tcl/unix -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -O3 -L/usr/local/lib -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -O3 -o btclsh btclsh-cmd.o btclsh-input.o btclsh-main.o btclsh-tcl.o ../../src/libtclcad/libtclcad.la ../../src/libdm/libdm.la ../../src/other/incrTcl/libitk.la
10:40.18 Mike111 ../../src/other/incrTcl/libitcl.la -L../../src/other/tk/unix -ltk8.5 -L../../src/other/tcl/unix -ltcl8.5 -ldl -lm ../../src/libtermio/libtermio.la
10:40.18 Mike111 ../../src/libtclcad/.libs/libtclcad.so: undefined reference to `X24_close_existing'
10:40.20 Mike111 ../../src/libtclcad/.libs/libtclcad.so: undefined reference to `_X24_open_existing'
10:40.22 Mike111 ../../src/libtclcad/.libs/libtclcad.so: undefined reference to `X24_interface'
10:40.24 Mike111 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
10:40.28 Mike111 make[2]: *** [btclsh] Error 1
10:40.31 Mike111 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src/bwish'
10:40.33 Mike111 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
10:40.34 Mike111 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src'
10:40.36 Mike111 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
10:40.47 Mike111 these are the last few lines from `make' just before it exists with an error
10:40.48 hippieindamakin8 Mike111, can u dpaste it if u have more
10:41.14 Mike111 what is dpaste?
11:09.42 hippieindamakin8 tcl libs
11:16.45 Mike111 brclad: I've tried building 7.14.6 again. First removed configure, config.status and config.cache* and ran autogen.sh, followed by ./configure and naje
11:16.49 Mike111 sorry make
11:17.07 Mike111 here is the last few lines from make where it reports the error:
11:17.38 Mike111 Making all in brlman
11:17.39 Mike111 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src/brlman'
11:17.39 Mike111 make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
11:17.39 Mike111 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src/brlman'
11:17.39 Mike111 Making all in burst
11:17.39 Mike111 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src/burst'
11:17.41 Mike111 make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
11:17.45 Mike111 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src/burst'
11:17.47 Mike111 Making all in bwish
11:17.49 Mike111 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src/bwish'
11:17.52 Mike111 /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CC --silent --mode=link gcc -I../../src/other/incrTcl/itcl/generic -I../../src/other/tcl/generic -I../../src/other/tcl/unix -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -L/usr/local/lib -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -o btclsh btclsh-cmd.o btclsh-input.o btclsh-main.o btclsh-tcl.o ../../src/libtclcad/libtclcad.la ../../src/libdm/libdm.la ../../src/other/incrTcl/libitk.la ../../sr
11:17.56 Mike111 c/other/incrTcl/libitcl.la -L../../src/other/tk/unix -ltk8.5 -L../../src/other/tcl/unix -ltcl8.5 -ldl -lm ../../src/libtermio/libtermio.la
11:17.59 Mike111 ../../src/libtclcad/.libs/libtclcad.so: undefined reference to `X24_close_existing'
11:18.01 Mike111 ../../src/libtclcad/.libs/libtclcad.so: undefined reference to `_X24_open_existing'
11:18.03 Mike111 ../../src/libtclcad/.libs/libtclcad.so: undefined reference to `X24_interface'
11:18.06 Mike111 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
11:18.07 Mike111 make[2]: *** [btclsh] Error 1
11:18.09 Mike111 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src/bwish'
11:18.11 Mike111 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
11:18.15 Mike111 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mike/app/brl_cad/brlcad-7.14.6/src'
11:18.17 Mike111 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
11:18.19 Mike111 I'm logging the channel now so you if you reply I'll your response when I return. Thanks for your help.
11:19.32 d-lo looks like the linker can't find your X24 libs...
11:21.05 Mike111 hi d-lo: thanks for the prompt reply. I need to go now. if you have any ideas please message me or the channel and I'll catch up on these when I come up in the morning. Cheers
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12:22.57 starseeker Mike111: if you need to paste large content like that use http://pastebin.bzflag.bz
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13:27.44 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r34487 10/rt^3/trunk/src/coreInterface/Ellipsoid.cpp: ws changes only
13:45.45 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r34488 10/rt^3/trunk/ (11 files in 2 dirs): operator new may throw a std::bad_alloc exception
13:47.55 ``Erik grar.
13:48.06 ``Erik interesting to see the guts of the front of my house
13:48.12 ``Erik nothing surprising, just... different
13:49.23 d-lo quick... run some cat5e/6
13:49.36 ``Erik heh, up the front? screw that
13:50.06 ``Erik I hate a small bundle down in the back of the lowest floor, everythign else is 802.11b/g atm
13:50.17 ``Erik unfortunately, that lone b turns every g into a b
13:51.00 d-lo whats the offender? A nic? Bridge? Access point?
13:51.15 ``Erik I believe an old ibook and the wap
13:51.52 ``Erik I might decomission/hock the old laptop, but that'd leave the wap, which is 7 yrs old
13:52.00 ``Erik $50 for 7 yrs isn't too bad
13:52.28 ``Erik Iwantmydamncarback. they're saying thursday-ish
13:52.35 ``Erik fucking 2 months
13:53.04 ``Erik this fucking rental floats, has no road feel, has no clutch, is all skunked up from smokers, ... sucks
13:53.14 d-lo ouch. Prognosis on repairs? She'll be just like new or ?
13:53.17 ``Erik and the additional culpability it brings, effin' a
13:53.34 ``Erik yeah, they're worry points are tread depth if I get a new tire...
13:53.40 ``Erik half the car is being repainted though
13:53.52 ``Erik their
13:54.13 d-lo same color right? =D
13:54.23 ``Erik I'll grill them heavier after the new rim/tire is fitted and they put it all together and align it
13:54.25 ``Erik yeah
13:54.51 ``Erik as fun as the attention the laguna seca car brought, I've decided I don't want to stand out that much
13:54.57 ``Erik less huffing of ricer nos fumes
13:55.18 ``Erik I don't WANT to race your little ford assprobe with "the kit", I just want to get home and watch the simpsons, fucktard
13:55.28 d-lo tee hee.
13:55.50 ``Erik I think brlcad gets off on it, I got tired of it
13:56.02 d-lo Nothing as awesome as a Neon with a killer muffler, huge spoiler and two difference colored doors 'cause they can't afford the paint job yet. :)
13:56.21 ``Erik hehhee
13:56.26 ``Erik the wing, man
13:56.28 ``Erik it's all about the wing
13:56.52 d-lo yeah, add downforce in the rear on a front wheel drive == pure genious.
13:56.53 ``Erik yeah, the car is front drive, so that downforce is technically air friction plus increased rear tire friction, but... uhhhhh, it's all about the wing
13:57.22 ``Erik I made you look at the 'k-car' site, right?
13:57.31 d-lo negative ghost rider
13:57.37 ``Erik dude took an 80's dodge K frame car, uh
13:57.43 ``Erik has it running 8 second quarters
13:57.49 ``Erik and it looks like a grannymobile
13:58.18 ``Erik guys also smoking camaros and mustangs with an 80's minivan
13:58.25 ``Erik http://www.thedodgegarage.com/ check out the reliant
13:58.41 ``Erik 10, not 8 :(
13:58.48 ``Erik mebbe it was one of his beasts that took to the 8's
13:59.28 ``Erik given that any street car under 100k is in the 13's, a 10s car is zomfg
14:01.37 d-lo ahahahahhahaha. Checking out the bag of ice bungeed to the intercooler in the suped up minivan. AHAHAHAHAAHAHA
14:02.08 ``Erik :D
14:02.17 ``Erik dude is all go and no show
14:02.27 d-lo thats so ghetto its awesome....
14:02.54 ``Erik I'd sit next to that dude before any ricer
14:03.19 ``Erik <-- fan of the sleeper
14:04.17 d-lo I saw a reference to Cecil county.. they in MD?
14:04.24 ``Erik no, he's way up north
14:04.31 ``Erik but he drives down for the cecil county track
14:04.44 ``Erik boggled me at first
14:07.20 ``Erik (way up like cecil involves a hotel way up)
14:08.30 ``Erik loves the tech of it all
14:17.26 d-lo ah ha! I forgot its Free Redbox Movie day. Sweet.
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15:18.10 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34489 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (ged_private.h pscale.c scale_ell.c scale_tor.c): Included rtgeom.h in ged_private.h, modified the signatures of ged_scale_ell() and ged_scale_tor() (i.e. removed matp_t parameter). Also fixed pscale (it wasn't working when matrices were found along the path).
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15:46.00 d-lo Now there's a shock. My highschool band teacher just won Mrs Arizona.... http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/24/20090424gl-dvbeauty0424-ON.html
15:50.15 hippieindamakin8 d-lo, woah u had hot teachers :)
15:50.45 d-lo I always knew she was pretty, nice and an awesome music teacher... but damn... who knew...
15:53.52 hippieindamakin8 when my school had to do budget cuts the music teacher was one of the ones fired and there was no music class in high school
15:54.27 d-lo thats a growing trend. Sad really.
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16:01.29 d-lo In fact, I would say that music education had a significantly bigger impact on shaping my life than sports did.
16:33.16 brlcad is humorously reminded of office space with this pic: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3434141027_6899d20fb7_b.jpg
17:09.37 brlcad wow.. what a tetris performance .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwC544Z37qo
17:14.55 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34490 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ArcherCore.tcl: Modify ArcherCore::loadMenu to select snode.
17:19.50 d-lo brlcad: simply amazing. Although I do wonder howmany life opportunities were missed out while he was practicing... heh. I'd imagine a few of those opportunities had nice racks too ;)
17:46.26 ``Erik nice, dlo, how can you avoid the "hot for teacher" cameo?
18:23.36 d-lo who's avoiding it? :)
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19:25.59 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34491 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Add code for editing EHY's in libged and Archer.
19:54.33 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34492 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: need to force compilation of step off if there are no parsers/lexers found since there is a parser in libexpress. avoids compile-time failure on minimal systems.
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20:18.00 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34493 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: all -build options should default to 'auto', including step. if the user specifically requested step and parser/lexer aren't present, abort.
20:18.21 ``Erik *sigh*
20:18.34 ``Erik I hate when that file is changed.
20:19.11 brlcad cackles
20:26.11 brlcad woot, PTC sales fell 44% compared to Q2FY08
20:26.36 ``Erik ptc?
20:26.41 brlcad pro/e
20:26.45 ``Erik ah
20:26.56 ``Erik so... uh, who's next?
20:27.18 ``Erik I think this dude is listening to ... rush limbaugh?
20:27.24 brlcad they're no longer one of the "top 5" that are billion+ CAD companies
20:27.48 brlcad will drop (just) under a billion this year if projection holds
20:28.14 ``Erik y'know, I'm an awfully soft dude... but, uh, when the dude came to fix my window and wanted to convert me... no sale... and now, the guy fixing my front door... rush limbaugh? really?
20:28.40 ``Erik I'm gonna effin' bitchslap ericE for this
20:28.46 brlcad probably just thought you had a purdy mouth
20:33.38 ``Erik yeh, I do sure have a purdy mouth
20:44.19 starseeker brlcad: so who are the top five now?
20:44.58 brlcad well they're still probably #5
20:45.44 brlcad but the top five were all billion+ so was considered a 'club'/mafia/elitism
20:45.54 starseeker ah
20:50.03 brlcad autodesk, dassault, siemens, and ptc
20:50.18 brlcad it was four, not five .. unless I'm forgetting someone
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20:52.06 brlcad 2.4b, 1.2b, 1.1b, and now .9b respectively if projection holds .. rough estimates
20:53.46 ``Erik images us gov't has at least a b to its name
20:53.54 ``Erik for a wee bit, anyways
20:54.25 brlcad eh, try 3.6t
20:55.45 brlcad good grief this rebuild is taking fooooreeeverrr
20:58.20 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34494 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/mirror.c: odd ws snuckage
20:59.40 brlcad anyone else have a clean debian/ubuntu box handy? this one I'm using is really slow -- trying to make sure Mike111's bug is fixed for this source release
21:01.22 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34495 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob sneaks in support for ehy interactive editing in archer along with that which was added for arb8, tor, and ell.
21:13.15 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34496 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: update the version before updating the changelog so the change is recorded
21:17.03 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34497 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): final release steps, bump patch revision for the 7.14.8 release
21:26.40 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34498 10/brlcad/trunk/ChangeLog: changes since the last release, through 2009-04-03
21:37.29 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34499 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: collapse the distcheck step with the build step to reduce the number of release steps back down to 15. making the minimum regression tests copypasteable.
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22:02.27 starseeker hmm - gqa has problems with grid specification
22:03.03 starseeker g_qa -Ao -g1-0.1 ktank.g tank
22:03.54 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34500 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: bc_ vars are the user's specification of the build. the build_brlcad_ vars are our evaluated results of whether to build or not. config subdirs needs to use the latter else dist problems enwrath
22:04.05 starseeker I think the issue is it's not getting to any of its termination cases, but I'm not sure why yet
22:09.19 brlcad g_qa needs to identify itself and report what it's going to do before it does it
22:09.29 brlcad the output now is pretty inpenetrable
22:09.57 starseeker nods
22:10.14 brlcad -v is mildly useless
22:10.36 brlcad the overlap list is the only part that looks to be semiclean
22:11.30 brlcad it terminated with -g 1.0mm .. but took like 10x the default
22:11.43 brlcad I suspect making it .1 means it'll be 10-20 min
22:13.58 brlcad actually, not quite that bad: real 2m58.831s
22:14.11 brlcad that was with: g_qa -v -Ao -g 1.0mm-0.1mm ktank.g tank
22:14.25 starseeker ah, so it did eventually terminate
22:14.45 brlcad seems about right .. just kicked up the number of rays really fast
22:14.53 starseeker ok, nevermind
22:14.54 brlcad remember they're ^3
22:15.06 starseeker feedback would be nice...
22:15.29 brlcad so 10x on the grid is .. 100x more per view, 300x overall
22:17.27 starseeker yeah, I see it now
22:17.54 brlcad update TODO, couple tasks
22:18.10 brlcad feedback at a minimum
22:18.38 starseeker abort ability would also be nice
22:18.40 brlcad identification header to let you know it's working
22:18.55 brlcad hm?
22:18.58 brlcad ctrl-c ? :)
22:19.01 starseeker yep
22:19.01 brlcad oh you mean in mged
22:22.04 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34501 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: Add note on g_qa usability improvements needed in TODO
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23:24.26 alvaro1 configure: error: *** compiler cannot create working executables, check config.log ***
23:24.43 brlcad did you check config.log? :)
23:25.44 alvaro1 can i pastre it here?
23:27.46 alvaro1 [root@alvaro-edicta-host brlcad-7.14.6]# ./configure --enable-optimized > a
23:28.00 alvaro1 configure: WARNING: X11 support is enabled but the Xi library was not found.
23:28.00 alvaro1 configure: WARNING: This will likely result in a build failure.
23:28.00 alvaro1 configure: WARNING: See config.log for details why (look for this comment)
23:28.00 alvaro1 configure: WARNING: The floating point implementation does not seem to be IEEE 754
23:28.00 alvaro1 configure: WARNING: compliant. The behavior of htond and htonf may be incorrect.
23:28.01 alvaro1 configure: error: *** compiler cannot create working executables, check config.log ***
23:28.03 alvaro1 [root@alvaro-edicta-host brlcad-7.14.6]#
23:29.04 brlcad eh
23:29.18 brlcad you misunderstand something
23:29.30 brlcad that is not the config.log
23:29.44 brlcad you redirected most of the configure output to a file named 'a'
23:29.51 brlcad so you only see what went to stderr
23:30.19 brlcad which is all hopefully informative but still irrelevant to towards "check config.log"
23:35.22 alvaro1 i am triying to paste config.log but it is too big
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23:49.50 alvaro1 brlcad can you give you email ?

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