00:25.54 |
alecs1 |
did I read Qt here? an interface replacing
mged written with Qt? |
00:26.24 |
alecs1 |
fabulous |
00:27.49 |
Ralith |
indeed |
00:27.53 |
Ralith |
if the thing'll cooperate with ogre. |
00:30.14 |
alecs1 |
I wish you best of luck then; found you brl
wiki page with google |
00:30.20 |
alecs1 |
I'll keep an eye on it |
00:30.28 |
alecs1 |
:) |
00:31.17 |
Ralith |
thanks |
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elena |
do you know why mged outputs text to stderr
when in console mode? |
07:43.46 |
elena |
i use 7.10.4 |
07:46.16 |
elena |
i ran mged -cr something.g tops |
07:46.47 |
elena |
it displays: Opened in READ ONLY mode and the
top objects. |
07:46.58 |
elena |
but on stderr. |
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d-lo |
Mornin all! |
11:06.17 |
d-lo |
*READREADREAD* |
11:07.31 |
d-lo |
Ralith: Whats the possibility of getting you
to write up short blurbs about your ideas/approaches and dropping
them in your log on the wiki? |
11:09.07 |
d-lo |
Ralith: I haven't taken a look at your problem
(in code) so I have no idea how complex it would be to extend the
Qt Class with the problem with your own homebrew. |
11:11.11 |
d-lo |
starseeker: Going to the gym nowadays? Rock
on! |
11:13.05 |
d-lo |
``Erik: Agreed. Goblinsharks are something
straight out of a horror flick. |
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11:40.34 |
magesing |
Hi everyone, Suppose I have modelled a part,
and now I want to make a manufacturing drawing so that I can
machine it... How do I make the drawing and apply GD&T in
BRL-CAD? |
11:41.48 |
louipc |
magesing: brl-cad doesn't have that
capability |
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11:43.09 |
magesing |
louipc: hmm... that's a shame |
11:44.47 |
magesing |
Doesn't that kindof limit the utility of
brl-cad as a CAD/CAM package? What's the use of designing a part if
I have no way of transferring that data to the
shop-floor? |
11:44.50 |
louipc |
yeah I'd like to see brl-cad more capable for
drafting... but there needs to be willing and able developers to do
that |
11:45.49 |
magesing |
hmm... I wonder what would be involved... Is
it currently possible to render views of parts with visible edges
solid and hidden edges dashed? |
11:45.50 |
louipc |
yeah it totally limits brl-cad |
11:46.51 |
louipc |
i'm not too sure about that one |
11:47.40 |
louipc |
you would still need some kind of draft
editor, I don't trust computer generated drawings |
11:48.12 |
magesing |
if that is possible, then it's just a matter
of writing a script to generate three orthographic views, then use
some sort of external editor to add annotations |
11:49.20 |
magesing |
probably easiest to make a series of tools for
inkscape or the gimp to add the annotations to a monochrome
drawing |
11:50.35 |
louipc |
brlcad already has 2d sketch objects |
11:50.46 |
louipc |
something from that could be used |
11:57.41 |
magesing |
louipc: "The rtedge and rthide commands are
used for hidden-line renderings similarr to what you'd want for
generating drafting documents." --http://brlcad.org/wiki/FAQ |
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magesing |
i.e. I can generate images with rt-edge and
rt-hide then use the image editor of my choice to annotate the
drawings |
12:10.21 |
louipc |
I'd opt for different cad software if I had to
do that for every drawing though. heh |
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BRL-CAD: 03irpguardian * r34903
10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/human.c: Added movement support for the
right arm, and made a single function for creating an arm, instead
of one for left and right sides. |
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10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/human.c: Added poseable leg support, up
to the thigh and calf, and made a makeleg function to create
them. |
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BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34905
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/killrefs.c: Update comments. |
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``Erik |
effin' made me get a cast |
16:54.59 |
indianlarry |
/sb/ goto -40 |
16:55.07 |
indianlarry |
oops |
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17:24.46 |
alecs1 |
hi, archer fails to start with the following
error: ERROR: Unable to initialize ArcherCore imagery |
17:25.03 |
alecs1 |
what could it be? |
17:26.00 |
CIA-30 |
BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34906
10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Mods related to Archer's
undo (i.e. override commands that are not yet supported by
undo). |
17:33.43 |
alecs1 |
ah, I looked now in the archer script and
there is no message like this one |
17:34.09 |
louipc |
odd |
17:36.04 |
louipc |
alecs1: it's in
src/tclscripts/archer/LoadArcherLibs.tcl |
17:36.06 |
alecs1 |
I'm doing a search in the source directory;
google didn't find any message like this |
17:36.32 |
alecs1 |
thanks, I'll take a look |
17:40.07 |
alecs1 |
do you know what it means? I have next to 0
brl-cad and tcl experience |
17:41.05 |
``Erik |
archer is a work in progress, not ready for
consumption yet, last I heard... you might want to use mged
instead |
17:41.40 |
louipc |
looks like it's looking for a tk add-on called
'tkimg' |
17:41.48 |
louipc |
if you're missing that it won't work |
17:41.57 |
alecs1 |
thanks, I didn't know; I'll stick to mged
then |
17:42.27 |
alecs1 |
I'll for tkimg then; maybe it helps |
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10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/human.c: Added poseable support for all
the leg now, including feet. |
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jdoliner |
indianlarry you here? |
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BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34908
10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ (Archer.tcl ArcherCore.tcl):
Modified archer to ask the user to confirm save and revert
requests. |
19:11.29 |
Ralith |
louipc: it probably would be pretty easy to do
something like rtedge with hidden lines dashed |
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BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r34909
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the MathGrammar in preparation for Constraint Grammar
definition |
20:29.45 |
elena |
starseeker, are you here? |
20:38.56 |
elena |
brlcad? |
20:48.01 |
``Erik |
I fed them to the pet squirrel |
20:48.36 |
``Erik |
what's up? |
20:48.40 |
elena |
hopes Erik is
kidding |
20:48.48 |
``Erik |
it's a big squirrel |
20:48.53 |
elena |
:) |
20:49.12 |
elena |
probably got bigger after eating two
mens. |
20:49.30 |
elena |
men (no -s) |
20:49.52 |
``Erik |
boys, ya mean |
20:50.00 |
``Erik |
sits around being horribly
old |
20:50.26 |
``Erik |
technically, I am a mentor (getting the
t-shirt, anyways), is it something I may be able to help
with? |
20:50.40 |
Ralith |
solve my ogre/qt problem :D |
20:50.48 |
elena |
i wanted to ask them some suggestions about
the metadata that I should/can get from a model. |
20:51.01 |
``Erik |
ralith: stop using that c++ crap, problem
solved :D |
20:51.04 |
Ralith |
:[ |
20:51.40 |
``Erik |
metadata? hm, title and units are probably the
big ones, just be careful of .g files with many models, I'd
imagine |
20:51.40 |
elena |
ls -l provides some information about the
objects. |
20:51.49 |
elena |
tree about the structure. |
20:52.19 |
elena |
ok. indeed, I forgot about units. |
20:52.20 |
``Erik |
there're a few different naming conventions
that have different meanings, so those might just need to be
ignored |
20:53.01 |
elena |
and since you're so kind, I have one
curiosity |
20:53.28 |
elena |
i noticed today, that when using the console
mode in mged |
20:53.28 |
elena |
output goes to stderr. |
20:53.40 |
``Erik |
um, once thing ya see in real models that the
army uses is there may be 4 seperate toplevel models of a single
thing... depending on if it's csg or triangles, and if it's low
resolution or high resolution modelling |
20:53.50 |
elena |
should it go to stdout (errors and warnings to
stderr) |
20:53.56 |
``Erik |
by console mode, you mean classic? "mged -c"
? |
20:54.00 |
elena |
yes. |
20:54.51 |
elena |
this is in 7.14 |
20:54.52 |
``Erik |
output of things like rt should go to stderr,
I'd think... mged -c can be used in scripts where you want just the
right stuff to go to stdout (sometimes to generate data to massage
and feed back into mged) |
20:55.10 |
elena |
i used this |
20:55.19 |
elena |
mged -c something.g tops |
20:55.30 |
elena |
that sent the output to stderr. |
20:55.47 |
elena |
no big problem. just curious about this
decision. |
20:56.04 |
``Erik |
hrm, that doesn't feel right to me, may've
been accidently altered with all the libged stuff :/ |
20:57.27 |
``Erik |
yeah, it all goes to stderr for me, too
hmmmmm |
20:58.09 |
Ralith |
shoud be easy enough to fix, right? |
20:58.11 |
``Erik |
I think that's one to ping brlcad
for |
20:58.14 |
Ralith |
should* |
20:58.47 |
``Erik |
you'd think, but display type stuff is
abstracted in twisted ways to cope with the tcl/C schism and
stuff |
20:58.56 |
Ralith |
:/ |
20:59.23 |
``Erik |
and winderz throws a monkeywrench into any
simple/clean fd mgmt |
20:59.45 |
Ralith |
damnit windows |
21:00.08 |
``Erik |
*shrug* windows isn't unix... everything else
is unix :) |
21:00.45 |
``Erik |
I imagine haiku would have its own
monkeywrench issues... BRL-CAD is historically a very unix program,
starting on 43BSD |
21:01.12 |
``Erik |
bought his macbook to have a
nice unix laptop with a snazzy gui |
21:01.57 |
Ralith |
yeah, but at least haiku would be sane about
it. |
21:02.11 |
Ralith |
installed stupmwm to get a
snazzy gui |
21:02.18 |
``Erik |
I d'no, I imagine it'd have, y'know, c++
involved... *duck* :D |
21:02.24 |
Ralith |
:P |
21:03.03 |
``Erik |
I used to be a big c++ fan, but got away from
it and into C in '96-'97, then I got into things like smalltalk and
now the c++ mockery of OO annoys me :D |
21:03.24 |
``Erik |
and it's easier to be negative and insulting
than constructive O:-) |
21:03.28 |
Ralith |
is taking quite a liking to
common lisp, and thus can sympathize |
21:03.32 |
Ralith |
heh |
21:03.42 |
``Erik |
yeah, but CL has its own warts |
21:04.27 |
Ralith |
I'm interested. What are they? |
21:04.30 |
``Erik |
is learning cl, web
programming and emacs all at the same time, is apparently mentally
masochistic |
21:04.42 |
Ralith |
I have found that emacs and CL go well
together |
21:04.51 |
``Erik |
I dislike the lisp1/lisp2 split, having to say
#'func is annoying |
21:04.55 |
Ralith |
and there's a good bit of evidence that CL and
webprogramming go well together too |
21:05.03 |
Ralith |
ah yeah, that |
21:05.07 |
Ralith |
it |
21:05.19 |
Ralith |
it's a bit weird and a little inconvenient,
but at least it's logical and consistent. |
21:05.43 |
Ralith |
and it certainly is nice to have roomy
namespaces. |
21:05.49 |
``Erik |
the documentation is scattered and poorly
formatted, and while the third party stuff is insane in breadth and
quality, it lacks a decent centralized search/install mechanism and
often lacks any viable documentation |
21:06.06 |
Ralith |
er |
21:06.08 |
Ralith |
asdf-install |
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21:06.27 |
``Erik |
I used that for quite a bit, but then there're
version knots |
21:06.35 |
Ralith |
and the hyperspec seems pretty good doc-wise
for me, wrt. cl itself |
21:07.07 |
Ralith |
version knots? |
21:07.09 |
``Erik |
for example, ucw has many things that are ok
from asdf, but some require the cvs/svn/darcs/git version |
21:07.19 |
Ralith |
ah. |
21:07.34 |
Ralith |
that's just a matter of the asdf repo being
outdated |
21:07.39 |
``Erik |
thinks if someone took the
clhs, unfuglyd it and allowed user comments, a la php.net, that'd
be awesome |
21:07.47 |
``Erik |
I might do that when I get some free time, in
fact |
21:07.51 |
Ralith |
it is ugly, but it works. |
21:07.54 |
Ralith |
that'd be neat! |
21:08.25 |
``Erik |
it's also not the most newbie friendly
community *shrug* |
21:08.37 |
Ralith |
it was probably written near the beginning of
html's popularity, and considered 'good enough' as to need no
updating since then. |
21:08.45 |
``Erik |
yeah |
21:08.46 |
Ralith |
hm? I've found #lisp to be a nice enough
place. |
21:09.08 |
Ralith |
people are happy to explain concepts and
such |
21:09.12 |
sander^ |
Hi.. I saw on sourceforge.net that this
project needs developers |
21:09.34 |
Ralith |
sander^: hullo. More dev-work is indeed
always good. |
21:09.42 |
``Erik |
yeah, they're usually decent if you don't ask
stupid questions, but you start reading the flame lists and stuff,
or try to get a breadcrumb trail started up, ... |
21:09.59 |
Ralith |
breadcrumb trail? |
21:10.20 |
``Erik |
yeah, the sequence of things to research to
get to the next level, that kinda thing |
21:10.42 |
Ralith |
I think CL's main problem, and the main reason
for its lack of popularity in this age of python and ruby and such,
is that it has no one central community |
21:10.50 |
``Erik |
once you know you want to go from a to b,
they'll help you do that, but they won't say what c is |
21:10.51 |
sander^ |
Ralith, Got any easy tasks I could start
doing.. need some help with getting started tho. |
21:10.59 |
Ralith |
sander^: what's your experience? |
21:11.46 |
Ralith |
``Erik: throw together a prettified hyperspec
and back that with a newsfeed and a decent forum, and you might go
a good ways towards fixing that. |
21:11.46 |
``Erik |
sander^: and interests... |
21:12.05 |
sander^ |
Ralith, I know c,java very well.. abit c++..
Im intrested in learning more c++ |
21:12.25 |
Ralith |
sander^: yeah, it's inadvisable to put work in
on code that you're not personally invested in; you'll burn out
quick. |
21:12.47 |
Ralith |
BRL-CAD is mostly C. |
21:12.57 |
``Erik |
BRL-CAD is mostly C, a little c++, a smidge of
java... a wad of tcl... and some other stuff |
21:13.29 |
sander^ |
I know tcl very well |
21:13.40 |
``Erik |
oh, I'm so sorry :( |
21:13.42 |
``Erik |
O:-) |
21:13.44 |
Ralith |
hehe |
21:13.55 |
Ralith |
sander^: so, again, what're your
interests? |
21:13.56 |
sander^ |
how much is a wad :p? |
21:14.03 |
Ralith |
quite a bit. |
21:14.14 |
``Erik |
it sounds like you have the background to dig
in whereever you want, you just gotta let us know what your
interest is :) |
21:14.31 |
``Erik |
almost all of the MGED gui is tcl/tk with C
backing the operations |
21:15.07 |
Ralith |
perhaps archer? |
21:15.10 |
``Erik |
same with the new archer gui... the ogre/qt
experiment is the odd one (and a gsoc project) |
21:15.58 |
sander^ |
I can go with some c programming |
21:16.01 |
``Erik |
assumes sander^ has compiled
and installed BRL-CAD, messed around with it some, raytraced
something, etc? |
21:16.13 |
sander^ |
No.. I should do |
21:16.26 |
sander^ |
I just saw the post on sourceforge |
21:17.17 |
Ralith |
but where do your *interests* lie? |
21:17.57 |
``Erik |
hehehe, this is open source, man, we're not
going to TELL you what to do, we're going to help you find what you
want to do, then help you go about doing it :D |
21:18.37 |
``Erik |
effin' A, sf changed stuff around
again |
21:19.00 |
Ralith |
it is prettier, though, gotta give them
that. |
21:20.00 |
sander^ |
I need to try this program out.. before I can
say what my interests are |
21:20.08 |
Ralith |
do that first, then :D |
21:20.11 |
``Erik |
sander^: consider these 3 urls;
http://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/brlcad/brlcad/trunk/TODO
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=105292
http://brlcad.org/~sean/ideas.html |
21:20.13 |
Ralith |
afks for a
bit |
21:20.28 |
``Erik |
do the svn co, then glance over them while it
compiles or something :) |
21:23.24 |
sander^ |
Where do I find the source or whats the svn
checkout url? |
21:24.27 |
sander^ |
Error 500 |
21:24.28 |
sander^ |
We're sorry but we weren't able to process
this request. |
21:24.35 |
sander^ |
When I push "source" |
21:24.38 |
``Erik |
http://brlcad.org/wiki/SVN |
21:24.59 |
``Erik |
500? heh, sf broke their server :( |
21:26.51 |
``Erik |
you will need automake, libtool, and the X
development stuff (as well as a c/c++ compiler). |
21:27.23 |
``Erik |
once it's checked out, run the "autogen.sh"
script, then the usual ./configure && make all
install |
21:28.11 |
``Erik |
(and please, if you see room for improvement
on the wiki, ... :) |
21:47.43 |
sander^ |
Why does autogen.sh take that long
time? |
21:48.09 |
``Erik |
because it runs aclocal, autoheader, automake
and autoconf |
21:48.27 |
``Erik |
automake has to find and parse every
Makefile.am in the system and generate Makefile.in files |
21:49.07 |
elena |
hei Erik, is there an easy way to supply to
commands to mged in command line |
21:49.09 |
``Erik |
(that's compiling 256 buildsystem
files) |
21:49.23 |
elena |
like mged -c something.g "tops;
title" |
21:49.27 |
``Erik |
echo 'cmd 1; cmd 2' | mged -c |
21:49.33 |
``Erik |
um, I think that can work |
21:49.42 |
``Erik |
or put it in a script and mged -c blah.g <
myscript |
21:50.49 |
elena |
; didn't seem to work. |
21:50.57 |
elena |
only the last command is executed |
21:51.03 |
``Erik |
hm, might need to be newlines then
:/ |
21:51.06 |
elena |
i was able to do it with echo -e
"title\\ntops" | mged -c spheres.g |
21:51.31 |
elena |
it just seemed a bit complicated |
21:52.28 |
``Erik |
yeah. I thought semicolon was the seperator
:/ |
21:53.56 |
elena |
thank you. |
21:54.20 |
``Erik |
ohhhhhh, wait, classic uses its own parser,
not the tcl interpreter |
21:54.41 |
elena |
and? |
21:55.16 |
``Erik |
; is the tcl cmd seperator, I d'no if there's
one built into the classic mode mged parser |
21:55.54 |
``Erik |
if you don't give it the -c, it should work, I
think |
21:56.09 |
elena |
I need to run it in a batch. |
21:56.27 |
elena |
if I don't give it -c, it goes in bg |
21:56.53 |
``Erik |
how old is your mged? |
21:56.59 |
elena |
7.14 |
21:57.03 |
elena |
x86 |
21:57.54 |
``Erik |
at some point, the default behavior of mged
went from going background to staying in the fg, in support of
various WM's |
21:57.58 |
elena |
hmm. same happens in non-classical mode,
too |
21:58.05 |
elena |
i start mged |
21:58.06 |
``Erik |
yeah, feb of '08 |
21:58.10 |
``Erik |
30246 |
21:58.25 |
elena |
in the command win i type tops;title and only
title is run |
21:58.35 |
``Erik |
huh, weird |
21:59.01 |
``Erik |
yet another thing to fix |
21:59.09 |
elena |
i guess i'm moving from beginner to advanced
level :) |
21:59.53 |
``Erik |
and kind enough to observe/ask these little
things instead of just shrugging and moving on :) |
22:00.35 |
elena |
you're too kind |
22:00.46 |
``Erik |
I know, and I'm too modest, too O.o *duck*
:D |
22:01.55 |
sander^ |
what do I need to install to get x11 support?
Whats.. X development stuff? |
22:02.42 |
Ralith |
the headers |
22:03.09 |
Ralith |
in a debian-derived distro it'll be called
x11-dev or similar |
22:03.21 |
``Erik |
depends on the OS, something like Xlib-dev and
Xi-dev would do most rhat/deb based leenewxes, I think |
22:03.53 |
sander^ |
libx11-dev ? |
22:04.00 |
``Erik |
sounds right |
22:04.20 |
Ralith |
``Erik: perhaps it would be advisable to
replace the classic parser with the tcl interp? |
22:04.23 |
sander^ |
Im on ubuntu and debian |
22:04.37 |
Ralith |
libx11-dev is almost certainly
correct |
22:05.06 |
``Erik |
ralith: the gui version gives the same
results, I'm not sure what's going on with it |
22:05.13 |
Ralith |
O.o |
22:05.19 |
Ralith |
that sounds undesirable. |
22:05.22 |
``Erik |
and I'm not going to dig into it while I'm
sitting at home on sick leave enjoying the vicodin |
22:05.34 |
``Erik |
which is just about wearing off |
22:06.10 |
sander^ |
configure: WARNING: X11 support is enabled but
the Xi library was not found. |
22:06.50 |
Ralith |
doesn't know what Xi is used
for |
22:06.57 |
Ralith |
but you can fix that by, you know, installing
the Xi library. |
22:09.57 |
``Erik |
X intrinsics |
22:10.11 |
elena |
erik, one more help? |
22:10.20 |
``Erik |
hrm? |
22:10.43 |
elena |
i recall I saw somewhere a way to get the
output of a command and use it in another |
22:10.58 |
elena |
i want to do something like: tree
`tops` |
22:11.01 |
``Erik |
inside of mged? |
22:11.06 |
elena |
yes. |
22:11.14 |
``Erik |
uhmmm, sure it wasn't tree [tops] ? |
22:11.19 |
elena |
maybe I'm wrong and it wasn't mged. |
22:11.29 |
elena |
let me test. |
22:11.41 |
``Erik |
it's a direct tcl interpreter, so anything
that works in tcl should work in mged |
22:12.02 |
elena |
it says db_lookup([tops]) failed: [tops] does
not exist |
22:12.34 |
``Erik |
hm, yeah, I'm dorking in tclsh |
22:12.37 |
``Erik |
<-- doesn't really know tcl |
22:13.55 |
elena |
:( |
22:15.21 |
``Erik |
tree [eval tops] ? |
22:16.25 |
sander^ |
I cant find the xi lib |
22:16.37 |
``Erik |
libXi-dev ? |
22:16.44 |
``Erik |
do you have /usr/include/X11/Xi.h ? |
22:17.39 |
elena |
strange. it shows an error, yet it displays
some of the objects. |
22:17.51 |
sander^ |
Oh.. it actually was libXi-dev |
22:18.29 |
elena |
mged> tree [eval tops] |
22:18.30 |
elena |
db_lookup(tops]) failed: tops] does not
exist |
22:18.30 |
elena |
ellg |
22:18.30 |
elena |
axis/ |
22:21.06 |
``Erik |
*shrug* I don't have the resources handy to
figure that one out for ya, sorry :( tomorrow, I'll have access to
my books |
22:21.17 |
sander^ |
I dont have /usr/include/X11/Xi.h still after
installing libxi-dev |
22:21.43 |
sander^ |
And its also still complaining about xi dev
even after I installed it |
22:27.43 |
elena |
no problem. thank you. |
22:27.49 |
sander^ |
im just compiling without x11
support |
22:27.55 |
elena |
i'm still half way there :) |
22:28.48 |
sander^ |
What downsides is it without x11
support? |
22:29.12 |
sander^ |
no grafical interface? |
22:31.35 |
louipc |
no mged. You probably want that. |
22:36.23 |
louipc |
sander^: hmm I don't have Xi.h
either |
22:36.34 |
louipc |
but I do have libxi |
22:40.37 |
sander^ |
strange that its complaining about it
then |
22:41.14 |
louipc |
what was the message you got complaining about
xi? |
22:42.04 |
louipc |
"X11 support is enabled but the Xi library was
not found."? |
22:42.09 |
sander^ |
configure: WARNING: X11 support is enabled but
the Xi library was not found. |
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22:48.29 |
elena |
eval tree [tops] seems to partially
work. |
22:49.01 |
elena |
the problem is that [tops] gets replaces with
the string containing all the tops (not with a list of
objects) |
22:49.12 |
elena |
db_lookup fails again. |
22:49.13 |
sander^ |
How long time does it take to compile
everything? |
22:49.24 |
Ralith |
depends entirely on your hardware. |
22:51.10 |
sander^ |
From what to what?.. Like.. Can it take half
an hour? |
22:51.39 |
``Erik |
anywhere from 5 minutes to 5
hours... |
22:51.45 |
Ralith |
from the next millenium to
instantly. |
22:51.51 |
Ralith |
it depends entirely on your
hardware. |
22:52.00 |
sander^ |
okay |
22:52.07 |
Ralith |
I suggest not attempting to use nothing but a
pencil. |
22:52.36 |
``Erik |
damn, ralith, still sore about that? we
thought it was hilarious :D *duck* |
22:53.16 |
louipc |
sander^: do you have x11proto-input-dev
installed? |
22:53.29 |
Ralith |
``Erik: at least I know x86 hex now. |
22:53.37 |
louipc |
/usr/include/X11/extensions/XI.h |
22:53.42 |
``Erik |
x86? damnit, boy, we said r2k! |
22:53.45 |
louipc |
is in that package |
22:54.00 |
``Erik |
(r2k is sexy assembly) |
22:54.01 |
Ralith |
yeah, but I didn't have the test hardware and
I was too lazy to find a vm |
22:54.12 |
``Erik |
http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~larus/spim.html
|
22:54.16 |
``Erik |
there, there's your vm |
22:54.17 |
``Erik |
:D |
22:55.11 |
sander^ |
louipc, yes.. I got x11proto-input-dev
installed |
22:58.57 |
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23:16.16 |
louipc |
/usr/include/X11/extensions/XI.h: #define
XI_DATAGLOVE "DATAGLOVE" |
23:16.22 |
louipc |
bwhahahha |
23:21.39 |
sander^ |
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltk8.5 |
23:21.52 |
sander^ |
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
23:22.59 |
sander^ |
it fails on that when doing make |
23:23.46 |
louipc |
you have tk 8.5? |
23:23.50 |
``Erik |
did the configure stuff say that it was
building tk or not? |
23:29.48 |
sander^ |
now I installed tk-dev |
23:30.25 |
louipc |
I'm glad I don't use debian :P |
23:31.31 |
sander^ |
Well.. im actually installing this on my
ubuntu laptop without too many programs |
23:31.44 |
Ralith |
tk-dev won't help |
23:31.48 |
Ralith |
taht's the headers; it's missing the
library. |
23:32.05 |
Ralith |
(although tk-dev undoubtedly depends on tk, so
it might work anyway) |
23:32.18 |
sander^ |
Build Tcl ............................:
yes |
23:32.18 |
sander^ |
Build Tk .............................:
yes |
23:32.30 |
Ralith |
sounds like a build system bug, then
:/ |
23:32.44 |
louipc |
hm. if you have them installed it should say
no (using system) |
23:32.51 |
Ralith |
he doesn't |
23:32.55 |
Ralith |
he's just now installing them, I
think |
23:34.49 |
louipc |
I'm surprised no debianites have come along
and spruced up the build files |
23:35.36 |
``Erik |
made a debian/ build thingy
a while back, but lost access to his debian box
*shrug* |
23:37.14 |
sander^ |
should it say yes here?: Build Tk
.............................: yes |
23:37.27 |
Ralith |
did it say that after you had installed
tk? |
23:37.29 |
sander^ |
I got tk installed.. and did configure once
more |
23:37.41 |
Ralith |
then it shouldn't want to build its
own. |
23:37.51 |
``Erik |
um |
23:37.54 |
louipc |
did you install tcl too? |
23:38.06 |
``Erik |
try doing a "make distclean", then do
"./configure --enable-all" and see if it works then |
23:38.14 |
sander^ |
I installed both tcl and tk |
23:38.16 |
Ralith |
louipc: pretty sure tk depends on tcl
:P |
23:38.29 |
louipc |
yeah it does |
23:42.35 |
sander^ |
I need to go now.. |
23:43.05 |
louipc |
see you later |
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