IRC log for #brlcad on 20090914

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03:38.35 Ralith brlcad: hear about the Haiku R1 release?
03:39.26 brlcad yes!
03:39.26 brlcad good stuff
03:41.52 Ralith is hopeful that it will go places
03:42.14 Ralith though I have to say, after getting into CL I'm still dreaming of a contemporary lisp machine.
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10:15.07 d-lo Mernin all!
11:08.20 Yoshi47 hi, my facetize still going!
11:08.34 d-lo nice, whats the CPU time thus far?
11:08.41 Yoshi47 one sec
11:08.53 Yoshi47 4219:41
11:09.15 d-lo well, at least is hasn't crapped out yet :)
11:09.40 Yoshi47 how do you know that it hasn't? thats the question...
11:13.07 d-lo Oh, brlcad either works or it doesn't.
11:13.19 d-lo if its still running, then its doing something :)
11:16.02 Yoshi47 ok well my window frozen and i can't see anything going on, but i'll take your word.
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14:48.08 brlcad is excited to try haiku, but must resist...till release posts at least
14:48.21 d-lo vas dat?
14:48.26 starseeker hehe
14:48.38 brlcad d-lo: Haiku OS
14:48.47 starseeker attempt at open BeOS
14:48.51 d-lo kk
14:49.03 brlcad they did more than attempt :)
14:49.06 starseeker if it really does what BeOS does, it could be Awesome
14:49.41 starseeker hasn't tried it in a long while - did they achieve the multithreaded responsiveness of the original?
14:49.42 brlcad they were the "Open BeOS" folks iirc, but changed their name to avoid problems
14:50.39 brlcad been following them since inception, first goal was full API compatibility before performance
14:50.44 brlcad and even ABI compatibility
14:50.56 brlcad so old binaries, even proprietary ones, still work
14:51.10 starseeker nods
14:51.14 brlcad from what I've seen, some is actually faster than original BeOS
14:51.26 brlcad but then other parts aren't yet, still a LOT of driver work that needs to happen
14:52.04 starseeker if they can achieve the responsiveness and multimedia capabilities, and someone does some serious porting of the major open source apps to the platform, it could get really interesting
14:52.22 brlcad a lot of what beos did that was awesome has since been picked up by other systems (linux, mac, and even some aspects in windows)
14:52.36 brlcad but much is fundamental at a kernel level
14:52.41 starseeker nods
14:52.49 starseeker yeah, that's what I was wondering about
14:53.00 starseeker last I recall, they were using some research kernel that had dubious support
14:54.16 brlcad they started with http://newos.org/
14:55.38 brlcad which was written by one of the beos kernel devs
14:56.24 brlcad course, that was forked more than a half-decade ago and the haiku team has been going non-stop on it since
14:56.29 starseeker ah
14:56.39 starseeker so they're maintaining their own kernel
14:56.45 brlcad yeah
14:57.02 brlcad they have distinct dev teams
14:57.12 starseeker must concede it makes sense for such a project
14:57.26 d-lo am I the only one that considers the word 'fork' as one of the top 20 'easiest words to make a joke out of' ?
14:57.27 brlcad yeah, way too much to do
14:57.53 brlcad there are more than a dozen teams, each team with anywhere from a couple to a dozen core folks working that area
14:58.47 brlcad basically one for each major area. networking, filesystem, app api, game api, input devices, printing, gui, basic services, etc
15:00.29 starseeker wow
15:01.41 brlcad things have been accellerating quickly ever since they were able to self-host back in April
15:02.18 brlcad that (and networking) was the biggest failing the last time I gave them a try about a year ago .. couldn't really compile anything without jumping major hurdles
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15:30.34 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35901 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: cliff made the 3dm-g importer create an automatic top-level combination, using an object name that is the same name as the output filename.
15:32.37 starseeker oops, sorry - forgot about that
15:40.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35902 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS:
15:40.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: bob reversed the order of the copyeval command so that arguments are new
15:40.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: followed by old. in doing so, he removed the option to specify the path
15:40.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: elements individually (i.e. 'all.g box.r box.s' is no longer allowed. One must
15:40.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: instead specify it as all.g/box.r/box.s).
15:47.34 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35903 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (surfaceintersect.cpp surfaceintersect.h): ws/indent/comment cleanup. fix headers (they shouldn't be declared as relative locals, they're public headers).
15:54.18 kanzure hm, how does surfaceintersect.cpp work?
15:54.21 kanzure bounding box?
15:55.11 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35904 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/surfaceintersect.cpp: prefix MIN to minize conflict, remove unused safesqrt
15:57.56 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35905 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/bot.c: escape them all for consistency
15:58.23 brlcad starseeker: no problem, that's why I review everything :)
15:58.40 brlcad just had a massive backlog
15:58.43 brlcad only 15 to go!
15:58.55 brlcad kanzure: it's a dev app just for testing purposes
15:59.08 brlcad it has a couple surfaces in it and it attempts to evaluate the intersection of those surfaces
15:59.21 brlcad jdoliner was working on it
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16:05.59 kanzure ah okay
16:06.07 kanzure actually I don't know why I suggested that it might be bounding box
16:06.18 kanzure that's overkill, you can just solve it algebraically
16:06.24 kanzure er, in this case numerically
16:36.23 brlcad yeah, which is pretty much what it's doing
16:36.36 brlcad but still non-trivial numerical solve
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17:39.08 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35906 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/clone.c: restore the <>'s as that's the convention to indicate a required parameter (as opposed to type the word 'object'), plus it should match the tcl help.
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17:45.47 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35907 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: cliff added a new 'bb' command that creates bounding boxes and/or reports bounding box dimensions. this new command will later replace the 'make_bb' command. (rewording for backlog change tracking)
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20:28.21 brlcad Ralith: you still need to upload your code
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21:30.21 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35908 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob added a -n 'no-action' option to the mvall command where it just reports the objects that would be affected/changed (similar to dbfind/search) without actually doing the move.
21:32.08 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35909 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/helplib.tcl: document the mvall -n option
21:35.13 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1622 10/wiki/MGED_CMD_mvall: document the -n option
21:40.52 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1623 10/wiki/MGED_CMD_mvall:
21:40.59 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1624 10/wiki/MGED_CMD_edcodes: document the -n option
21:42.20 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35910 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS src/tclscripts/mged/help.tcl): bob added a -n 'no-action' option to the mvall and edcodes commands where it just reports the objects that would be affected/changed (similar to dbfind/search) without actually doing the move/edit.
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