IRC log for #brlcad on 20091006

00:24.41 starseeker brlcad: X and ogl seem to work - aside from that message about the bogus string comparison
00:25.04 starseeker that is nifty
00:25.29 starseeker ponders downloading an archive of the federal register to go with his us code download...
00:46.18 CIA-33 libirc: 03mm_202 * r375 10/trunk/libirc/include/IRCTextUtils.h: Include <string.h> in IRCTextUtils.h. gcc 4.3.3 throws errors without it.
00:58.51 starseeker uh... why are we getting libirc commit postings?
00:59.10 brlcad we always have
00:59.16 starseeker oh, ok
00:59.38 brlcad when libirc was started, users were pointed to here
01:02.18 ``Erik dang irc weenies, I'm glad I'm not one of those nerds
02:06.38 Ralith libirc?
02:41.48 starseeker wishes x86 could die...
02:42.53 starseeker but suspects the projectsions are right and x86 will live on forever under the hood - yuck
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03:12.37 louipc uh I like it. It runs my softwares
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12:32.54 brlcad waves to d_rossberg
12:44.55 d_rossberg brlcad: how are the version 7.16.0 tests going on?
12:52.20 brlcad d_rossberg: green on all except mac, but it's tagged
12:52.34 brlcad just hadn't uploaded the tarballs yet (later today) and sent the announcement
12:54.57 d_rossberg fine, therefore i may publish my dll packages
12:55.26 d_rossberg they are already prepared
12:56.30 brlcad oh yeah, whenever something is tagged, it's good to go
13:17.57 d_rossberg any idea of how to add release notes to a file on sourceforge's file release system?
13:22.24 d_rossberg .. ok, got it, i've to write them into a file and upload this file ...
14:05.31 brlcad actually I was wondering the same thing when they switched to the new system
14:06.16 brlcad d_rossberg: do they recognize any specially named files like README or ReleaseNotes.txt or something?
14:14.35 d_rossberg no, you have to upload a text file with the release notes on sourceforge
14:14.50 d_rossberg then you can label this file as an release notes file
14:15.09 brlcad right, but there's nothing they recognize to hook into the gui with little icons like before?
14:15.18 brlcad they had release notes and changelog before
14:15.43 d_rossberg after you did this, the file can be choosen as release notes for a package file
14:16.08 d_rossberg (see the 7.16.0 dll packages for example)
14:17.15 d_rossberg there seems to be no extra change log any more
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14:40.53 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36159 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/openw.tcl: Add basic menu to toggle display managers in MGED.
15:08.35 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36160 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/ (dmtype.tcl openw.tcl): Tweak menu text, put ae setting back after dmtype change
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18:34.25 brlcad news
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18:43.53 brlcad wee
18:46.25 starseeker brlcad: news?
18:46.46 brlcad NEWS
18:51.42 starseeker oh :-)
18:51.58 starseeker was waiting til I got the menus sorted out
18:52.05 brlcad nods
18:52.35 brlcad wasn't sure
18:53.02 starseeker what I'd LIKE to do is expand the dm command to allow me to ask (say) if ogl is present, but that would break the paradigm of the dm command being just dm set ...
18:55.33 starseeker still feels silly enhancing the old MGED menus, but oh well...
18:59.42 brlcad think of it more as it's a mod that will get heavily used for at least a few years
19:00.15 brlcad dm command should/can control, query, set, unset, manage the display managers..
19:00.42 brlcad nothing wrong with "dm valid ogl" or "dm query ogl" or "dm list", etc
19:01.02 starseeker OK, cool
19:01.11 starseeker that'll keep things cleaner.
19:01.28 brlcad dmtype -> dm set ?
19:02.32 starseeker set appears to be used to set dm specific variables, so I wasn't sure if it would violate expectations to have a dm set command change the dm itself rather than a variable with in the dm context
19:03.18 brlcad tcl-style would be something like "dm configure -key val"
19:03.36 brlcad dm is a deb command
19:03.44 brlcad er, dev command
19:03.47 brlcad so you can do what you need to it
19:04.03 starseeker well, if it's supposed to be set by the menu anyhow...
19:04.18 starseeker ok, cool :-)
19:04.37 brlcad right, the user-documented way should just be the gui
19:05.19 brlcad i mean could mention it if it's a unique command/subcommand, but not really worth the maintenance or effort if it needs to change
19:05.29 brlcad menu is simple/sufficient/useful
19:05.51 brlcad archer will be rather different regardless, then the command-line method can be better sorted out
19:06.25 starseeker nods
19:27.44 brlcad ~seen talcite
19:27.47 ibot talcite <n=Matthew@d24-141-28-249.home.cgocable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 32d 16h 50m 34s ago, saying: 'hey guys. What's the tool to use for signal processing?'.
19:28.35 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36161 10/brlcad/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Get menues working conditionally in MGED (via expansion of the dm devel command) and preserve ae orientation in working view - probably need to do more state preservation stuff later.
19:42.38 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36162 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/dm.xml: Add a mention of the valid subcommand to the dm man page.
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20:56.48 brlcad mm.. dm valid should return 0/1 boolean, so you can use it in logic: if [dm valid ogl] { puts "woo hoo" } { puts "aww, shucks" }
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21:12.26 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36163 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: shift up the next iteration tasks. converting nmgs to opennurbs is complete (presently happens during ray-trace only, but there is a simple routine). gui support for swapping display managers is complete.
21:13.47 CIA-33 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36164 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: need to rename istat/dstat to avoid naming conflicts being manually worked around in our fedora integration
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