00:35.34 |
brlcad |
starseeker: ah, msi .. those aren't
installshield |
00:37.24 |
brlcad |
it'd have to be a pretty fledged installer to
surpass our nsis one, though .. it's pretty swank with it's
options, graphics, optional sections, etc .. |
00:39.45 |
brlcad |
think the issue is more bob ran into a bug and
instead of figuring out the problem, he'd rather play with
something new |
00:41.06 |
brlcad |
the problem just needs to have some earnest
investigation put into it to see if it's something wrong in our
nsis file, an nsis bug, or a network filesystem problem |
00:41.57 |
brlcad |
i took a quick look at the nsis source code
and the error he's getting is a generic "file i/o" problem (which
stupidly just assumingly reports as disk full) |
00:43.15 |
brlcad |
would be trivial to add some better debug
statements in, recompile, see what the real error is; or do the
nsis on a diff (non-net-fs) system |
00:44.57 |
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01:35.58 |
starseeker |
brlcad: in fairness to Bob, he never mentioned
wix - I'm the one who went looking |
01:36.10 |
starseeker |
Bob never asked me to - I'm the guilty
one |
01:37.23 |
starseeker |
:-P |
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03:56.08 |
starseeker |
wonders if virtualbox will
finish compiling before Haiku finishes downloading |
04:08.34 |
brlcad |
for those that haven't seen fitz' and
sussman's latest tech talk, it's pretty good:
http://code.google.com/events/io/2009/sessions/MythGeniusProgrammer.html |
04:08.58 |
brlcad |
starseeker: aha .. hm. |
04:25.14 |
starseeker |
compile finished first :-) |
04:31.46 |
starseeker |
brlcad: hadn't looked at installer development
on Windows since last InnoSetup vs. NSIS discussions - was curious
if anything new had appeared |
04:34.24 |
brlcad |
http://wix.sourceforge.net/ is
probably the other at a mature enough level, but with a steeper
learning curve |
04:52.09 |
starseeker |
installs Haiku into a
virtualbox image |
04:52.17 |
brlcad |
woot |
04:52.50 |
brlcad |
starseeker: you'll need to change the default
network adapter in virtualbox for haiku to use it |
04:53.10 |
brlcad |
there's a page on their wiki about it, but
basically the first intel one iirc |
04:53.39 |
starseeker |
cool :-) |
04:55.27 |
starseeker |
(install is taking a little while on my now
lame machine) |
04:59.32 |
starseeker |
tries to think if there have
ever been any true genius programmers... hmm... Knuth
maybe? |
05:05.13 |
starseeker |
well, the mouse moves ssssllllooww but I guess
really I can't kick for full virtualization on something this
old |
05:08.37 |
starseeker |
hello from Haiku! :-) |
05:09.15 |
starseeker |
that is easily the easiest experience I have
ever had getting networking working in a virtual machine |
05:09.37 |
starseeker |
winces, remembering when
bochs was all the rage... |
05:10.39 |
starseeker |
that was coool :-) |
05:11.02 |
starseeker |
must try out
ReactOS... |
05:18.14 |
starseeker |
has an idea born of true and
pure evil... use ReactOS + msys/mingw to build a Windows install of
BRL-CAD that never touched Windows :-) |
05:18.45 |
starseeker |
Fortunately, the toolchain almost certainly
isn't up to anything so bats**t insane |
05:20.13 |
brlcad |
slow mouse? interesting.. mine was too fast
default |
05:20.31 |
brlcad |
they don't yet have accelleration dampening
working well |
05:21.42 |
starseeker |
feels like CPU cranking |
05:21.58 |
starseeker |
has an old dual P4 - may not
be up to this kind of action |
05:33.48 |
starseeker |
blinks - internet in
ReactOS?? |
05:33.57 |
starseeker |
holy smoke |
05:40.06 |
starseeker |
wonders how this sucker would
respond to a movitz image... |
05:44.26 |
brlcad |
don't forget the mosix disc from the summit
too ;) |
05:45.22 |
starseeker |
minix you mean? ;-) |
05:45.28 |
brlcad |
er yeah |
05:45.33 |
starseeker |
hasn't heard of mosix for a
while now :-) |
05:46.21 |
starseeker |
downloads mingw and msys into
ReactOS |
05:46.29 |
starseeker |
unreal... |
05:47.34 |
brlcad |
unreal tournament? :) |
05:49.11 |
starseeker |
heh - could try that too |
05:50.33 |
starseeker |
ah, phew - msys isn't working right |
05:50.52 |
starseeker |
was afraid for a minute there
he might actually have to attempt a BRL-CAD
compile |
05:54.25 |
brlcad |
heh |
06:01.46 |
starseeker |
hehe - it will take the movitz floppy
image |
06:10.56 |
starseeker |
ooo, how could I forget AROS: http://aros.sourceforge.net/ |
06:12.45 |
starseeker |
pity about their custom license |
06:24.25 |
starseeker |
mmm, freedos - ah, the good old (or old
anyway) 386 days |
06:35.40 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36408
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/vls.c: checkpoint. further progress on
encoding/decoding from string to argv and back.. though there is
still some wonkyness with quoted/escaped words. continued work in
progress. |
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11:26.29 |
d-lo |
``Erik: lol, I'm cryin here. It's like they
quoted my dad's best sayings. hahahahaha |
11:26.38 |
d-lo |
bah, now that's strange. |
11:26.41 |
d-lo |
Mernin all! |
12:12.35 |
brlcad |
mernin |
12:24.59 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36409 10/brlcad/trunk/
(include/bu.h src/libbu/vls.c): revert back to 36317 removing the
new encode/decode so raytracing is unbroken and release prep can
continue. the issues with encode/decode can get sorted out
post-release. |
12:25.43 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36410
10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: test it, ship it |
12:27.59 |
d-lo |
brlcad: You been playing with Haiku recently
eh? opinions? |
12:30.10 |
brlcad |
d-lo: been following haiku since before they
were called haiku |
12:30.58 |
brlcad |
i'm pretty excited, actually -- they've had a
surge of rapid progress ever since they finally got self-hosting
earlier this year |
12:31.59 |
brlcad |
a far ways off from holding a stick to any
modern distro, but Haiku's clean heritage and architecture design
is one of the best imnshho |
12:33.35 |
brlcad |
starseeker: at a glance, I'm not sure
indianlarry's recent multiplicity change is right.. that might be
related to the eval problems |
12:37.06 |
brlcad |
opennurbs doesn't store the repeat the
start/end knots for surfaces/curves for a given order, duplicating
them internally implicitly during eval -- it's not clear to me what
r36364 is doing in that regard |
13:16.03 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36411
10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/mged.c: apply a heavily modified version
of Jack Devanney's ( djw1 ) sf patch 2889987 (improvement to
f_opendb) that should make mged not prompt for new file creation if
opendb is called with a y/n tail argument. |
13:19.20 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36412
10/brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: special thanks to Jack Devanney for his
mged opendb patch, even if it didn't survive on apply. he
pinpointed the issue and provided a working patch
regardless. |
13:38.39 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36413
10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
13:38.41 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: prompted by Jack Devanney's problem
of adding 'opendb file y' to .mgedrc and |
13:38.43 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: having it still prompt, his patch and
my refactoring have made things better |
13:38.45 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: where it should obey the [y/n] opendb
tail regardless of which mode mged is |
13:38.47 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: running. |
13:56.58 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36414
10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: keith added a -n option to the bot_dump
command where it'll write out surface normals (untested) |
14:01.06 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36415
10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: keith also made some improvements to obj-g
making it handle files that have texture and surface normal data
(by ignoring that data) |
14:04.13 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36416
10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
14:04.17 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: bob implemented a new plugin in
archer for displaying groups of attributes and |
14:04.19 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: showing/hiding objects associated
with those attributes. shows up an a graphical |
14:04.21 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: panel with list boxes, object
selection, and key bindings that drive the |
14:04.23 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: graphical window. |
14:05.36 |
brlcad |
that completes my review items |
14:05.58 |
brlcad |
good for someone(tm) to do cross-platform
compile testing and sync to STABLE |
14:10.14 |
someone |
heh |
14:14.24 |
brlcad |
hehe |
14:15.30 |
starseeker |
attempts to get his voice to
sound a little less like a dying frog... |
14:15.40 |
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-> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad
|| Release 7.16.0 posted (20091006) || Logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ |
14:16.02 |
louipc |
7.16.0 :D |
14:16.20 |
louipc |
starseeker: you got the flu? |
14:16.31 |
starseeker |
nah, just a headcold |
14:16.43 |
louipc |
ah alright |
14:17.00 |
starseeker |
running the standard head, tonsils, body ache,
coughing up crap cycle |
14:17.12 |
louipc |
people are going nuts over the flu and
vaccinations here |
14:17.23 |
starseeker |
sometimes I can ride 'em out, but this one was
a bit of a doozie |
14:17.42 |
louipc |
new and improved virus eh |
14:17.46 |
starseeker |
yea, I keep getting asked if I've got the
flu |
14:18.10 |
starseeker |
standard response: shhh! digestion is the one
thing I HAVEN'T had a problem with yet! |
14:18.30 |
louipc |
hehe |
14:19.32 |
starseeker |
brlcad: did indianlarry ever get a Windows
build environment set up? |
14:20.09 |
starseeker |
'twould be nice if the Windows build stuff
could be swatted |
14:20.48 |
starseeker |
iirc some of 'em had to do with recent changes
to opennurbs_ext |
14:23.37 |
starseeker |
notes with some bemusement
that the FreeDOS install takes just as long as he remembers it
taking years ago |
14:24.51 |
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14:25.39 |
starseeker |
heh - watcom c/c++ compiler - I'll bet that's
one BRL-CAD has never encountered |
14:26.57 |
brlcad |
not in at least two decades probably |
14:31.30 |
``Erik |
headcold must be going around, kept me out of
the office yesterday, still coughing and snotting a bit
O.o |
14:34.11 |
starseeker |
yeah, Sarah had it last week and folks at her
place were down sick too |
14:34.14 |
starseeker |
tiz the season |
14:34.53 |
``Erik |
annoying, anytime anyone coughs or sneezes,
everyone goes "??? H1N1?? AAAHHHHH |
14:35.07 |
starseeker |
heh, yep |
14:35.13 |
starseeker |
gets that
too |
14:35.37 |
starseeker |
it's like "No, but maybe I can find you some
if you want it..." |
14:36.06 |
louipc |
this cold going around must be the
'test' |
14:36.07 |
starseeker |
isn't this the so called "swine flu" that we
were all up in arms about last goaround? |
14:36.29 |
starseeker |
thought H1N1 was the
"official" name for that, but could be wrong... |
14:36.33 |
``Erik |
yeah |
14:36.35 |
``Erik |
it is |
14:36.57 |
``Erik |
(actually, if I understand correctly, h1n1 is
a family of flu virii, which 'swine flu' belongs to?) |
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14:37.03 |
starseeker |
hmm, so we've had world ending due to bird
flu, world ending due to swine flu... |
14:37.11 |
``Erik |
don't forget sar |
14:37.13 |
``Erik |
sars |
14:37.25 |
starseeker |
was that different from the bird
flu? |
14:37.28 |
``Erik |
oh, and the world ended from the swine flu in
the 70's, so *shrug* it's all good, right? |
14:37.39 |
``Erik |
I thought so? *shrug* |
14:37.48 |
starseeker |
but nobody expects... the Hampster
Flu! |
14:38.14 |
``Erik |
shitloads of media fearmongering for a
story... 5000 people int he world have died of swine flue this
year, the "regular" flu kills 200,000-500,000 a year |
14:38.30 |
``Erik |
the spanish flu killed many millions less than
a century ago |
14:38.37 |
louipc |
yeah what the hell is sars |
14:38.45 |
starseeker |
that's the 1918 one, right? |
14:38.51 |
``Erik |
yeh |
14:38.58 |
starseeker |
that WAS scary. |
14:39.08 |
louipc |
haha sars is a cold |
14:39.20 |
starseeker |
airborne, most dangerous to healthy people,
struck fast and hard |
14:40.13 |
starseeker |
'course, sanitation practices in 1918 still
left something to be desired, and the world WAS recovering from a
very bloody war. |
14:40.15 |
louipc |
it's less dangerous to sick people? |
14:40.23 |
louipc |
o.O |
14:41.01 |
starseeker |
iirc, the theory about the spanish flu was
that the immune response it provoked in healthy people was so
strong as to be dangerous, whereas those with weakened immune
systems couldn't damage themselves as much |
14:41.26 |
starseeker |
something about an immune system "storm", but
it's been a while since I saw anything about it and I'm no expert
<shurg> |
14:42.47 |
starseeker |
oh: cytokine storm (overreaction of the
body's immune system) |
14:44.22 |
louipc |
oh kinda like playing an old video game on a
faster machine |
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15:01.03 |
starseeker |
hmm. I'll bet if any OS does well with
VirtualBox it would be opensolaris.... |
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17:04.04 |
starseeker |
decides his head isn't going
to fall off and heads in... |
17:58.03 |
``Erik |
gonna have to leave my laptop in a room with a
closed door O.o one of the cats closed it. |
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starseeker |
``Erik: the cats are stealing your laptop?
O.o |
18:49.22 |
starseeker |
ours would probably consider it a warm place
to sleep... |
18:54.53 |
``Erik |
well, I closed the lid down so there was like
2 inches between the top and base, so it'd stay running... was
ssh'd in and compiling BRL-CAD on it and it stopped pinging. I
assume that means the noise and heat got someones interest and it
became a seat |
18:55.08 |
starseeker |
hehe |
19:04.49 |
starseeker |
ooo, glad I'm not in Montgomery
County |
19:05.05 |
starseeker |
traffic control computer crashes, nothing
moves... |
19:09.50 |
yukonbob |
``Erik: you need a USB electric fence for
it. |
19:10.13 |
yukonbob |
Universal Shock Bus? |
19:14.38 |
starseeker |
hey, this is kinda cool: http://sumo.sourceforge.net/ |
19:16.31 |
starseeker |
http://elib.dlr.de/21012/2/dkrajzew_TRAF9_AgentbasedTLS.pdf |
19:17.57 |
yukonbob |
3/win 3 |
19:18.14 |
starseeker |
yukonbob: hmm? |
19:18.32 |
yukonbob |
<--- fail.
ww. |
19:19.32 |
starseeker |
is now going to be compelled
to play with this traffic simulation program and waste more brain
cells :-) |
19:19.54 |
starseeker |
real fun - integrate openstreetmap data into
simulations |
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19:22.16 |
``Erik |
actually, been tempted to get some motion
detectors and wiring them into spritzers as deterrents, just
concerned about water+electronics :/ |
19:23.13 |
``Erik |
was looking at air freshners and saw some that
claimed to be motion activated, hrmmmmm |
19:23.49 |
``Erik |
wiggles his toes and
continues to wait for http://www.stargateworlds.com/ |
19:36.32 |
starseeker |
hmm - open source Air Traffic Controller
environment:
http://www.albatross.aero/projects/projects-list/project-details.php?p=NA==&s=TGVhcm5Nb3Jl |
19:41.18 |
starseeker |
ah, phooy - project members only |
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CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36417
10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/metaball/metaball.c: crude
timing test for metaball tesselation. |
21:07.35 |
``Erik |
takes a moment to laugh
evilly. |
21:07.40 |
brlcad |
heh |
21:10.58 |
``Erik |
(feel free to comment on the tolerance
bit) |
21:11.10 |
``Erik |
(as for the rest; shove it. :D ) |
21:14.15 |
``Erik |
subversion applied to become an apache
foundation project |
21:14.27 |
brlcad |
neat |
21:14.41 |
brlcad |
is the tolerance dynamic? |
21:14.57 |
``Erik |
it's whatever is passed in |
21:14.59 |
brlcad |
then it sucks ;) |
21:15.11 |
``Erik |
looks for the max of the two rt tols' and the
bn tol dist |
21:15.40 |
``Erik |
and uses that value as the grid size |
21:22.31 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36418
10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/brep/brep.cpp: |
21:22.31 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: Added buffer around UV pushback for
loose fitting edges may not need if we can |
21:22.32 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: tighten the 3D edge to shared
surface. |
21:24.36 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36419
10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/opennurbs_ext.h
src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp): (log message trimmed) |
21:24.39 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: Added tolerance argument to
getSurfacePoint(), added quick return if |
21:24.41 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: point found within
BREP_SAME_POINT_TOLERANCE, else now iterates |
21:24.45 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: through looking for closest point
within tolerance argument. Also |
21:24.47 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: added BREP_EDGE_MISS_TOLERANCE buffer
around 3D bounding box to make |
21:24.52 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: sure 3D edges fall within bounding
boxes (needed when generating |
21:24.58 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: pullbacks on loose edges).Also moved
BREP_EDGE_MISS_TOLERANCE and |
21:25.33 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36420
10/brlcad/trunk/include/brep.h: |
21:25.37 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: Moved BREP_EDGE_MISS_TOLERANCE and
BREP_SAME_POINT_TOLERANCE definitions |
21:25.39 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: to opennurbs_ext.h |
21:27.16 |
brlcad |
``Erik: ahh.. pretty sure you just broke the
build on windows |
21:27.34 |
brlcad |
instead of calling gettimeofday/clock
directly.. how about just rt_get_timer? |
21:27.48 |
brlcad |
wraps those some routines portably |
21:41.41 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36421
10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/metaball/metaball.c: use
rt_{prep,get}_timer() instead of gettimeofday for
portability |
21:41.45 |
``Erik |
"for those users of lesser os's" |
22:04.03 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36422
10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/metaball/metaball.c: attempt
to do something almost kinda sane with relative
tolerance? |
22:13.25 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36423
10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/ (9 files): |
22:13.29 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: Cleaned up and removed some
debugging/dead code from pullback routines, added |
22:13.33 |
CIA-37 |
BRL-CAD: some developmental routines as
initial start to edge tightening |
23:21.20 |
Ralith |
hm |
23:21.21 |
Ralith |
hey guys |
23:21.39 |
Ralith |
there was someone here a while back that I
talked into tutorialifying an impeller he modelled to learn
mged |
23:21.45 |
Ralith |
did that ever get finished? |