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| 02:37.24 | ``Erik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:05.06 | Emton | hey all |
| 06:05.30 | Emton | been trying to compile this bad boy on cygwin |
| 06:05.58 | Emton | any know if some of the tools like pix-png are available for download |
| 06:06.38 | Emton | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../src/conv/asc2g', needed by `operators.as |
| 06:06.45 | Emton | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 14:48.31 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36474 10/brlcad/branches/rel8/ (1264 files in 100 dirs): Sync rel8 to latest trunk as of r36469 |
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| 15:20.19 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Qr9ken26z9dh24g 07http://brlcad.org * r1683 10/wiki/User:Qr9ken26z9dh24g: New page: Was to be sure rather short and thin himself. Her skin was light brown her face and torso out of some adolescent male's fantasies the eyes unnaturally large the lips too thick and sensuous... |
| 15:23.55 | ``Erik | hm, I don't seem to have wiki "sysop" privs |
| 16:09.15 | brlcad | ``Erik: you should |
| 16:09.27 | brlcad | what's your user? |
| 16:10.58 | ``Erik | Erik |
| 16:11.13 | ``Erik | brlcad: gonna be in the area in ~30m? lunch? |
| 16:12.25 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/rights: changed group membership for User:Erik from (none) to sysop: add to sysops |
| 16:12.53 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/rights: changed group membership for User:Erik from sysop to sysop, bureaucrat |
| 16:13.20 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/rights: changed group membership for User:Starseeker from (none) to sysop, bureaucrat |
| 16:14.00 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/rights: changed group membership for User:Mafm from (none) to sysop, bureaucrat |
| 16:14.21 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/rights: changed group membership for User:Rossberg from (none) to sysop, bureaucrat |
| 16:15.56 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/delete: |
| 16:15.58 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: deleted "[[User:Qr9ken26z9dh24g]]": content was: 'Was to be sure rather short |
| 16:16.00 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: and thin himself. Her skin was light brown her face and torso out of some |
| 16:16.04 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: adolescent male's fantasies the eyes unnaturally...' (and the only contributor |
| 16:16.06 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: was '[[Special:Contributions/Qr9ken26z9dh24g|Qr9ken26z9dh24g]]') |
| 16:16.16 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/block: blocked [[User:Qr9ken26z9dh24g]] with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked): Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages |
| 16:18.22 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/rights: changed group membership for User:Dloman from (none) to sysop, bureaucrat |
| 16:20.55 | mafm | brlcad: sysop, bureaucrat? don't insult me! |
| 16:36.28 | brlcad | haha |
| 16:36.40 | brlcad | i have no idea what that bureaucrat group is for |
| 16:37.15 | brlcad | can't wait to announce this next big release |
| 16:38.36 | *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || #brlcad logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || Release 7.16.2 posted (20091106) .. full binary release! | |
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| 17:29.01 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36475 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/AttrGroupsDisplayUtility.tcl: Mark the selected item using a grey background. |
| 17:30.57 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36476 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ArcherCore.tcl: Component pick now prints a string to the command window instead of popping up another window. |
| 17:53.59 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36477 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/images/Themes/Crystal/compErase.png: Adding a new image for component erase button. |
| 17:54.56 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36478 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/images/Themes/Windows/compErase.png: Adding a new image for component erase button. |
| 17:55.37 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36479 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/images/Themes/Crystal_Large/compErase.png: Adding a new image for component erase button. |
| 18:06.52 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36480 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/images/Themes/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Include reference to compErase.png |
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| 18:11.14 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36481 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/Ged.tcl: Added a new method: clear_mouse_ray_callback_list. Also, now catching call to shoot_ray. |
| 18:13.19 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36482 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ArcherCore.tcl: Added a component erase mode. |
| 18:27.55 | louipc | whoa momma! |
| 18:31.29 | ``Erik | hm, tk86 uses cocoa natively on osX |
| 19:35.09 | yukonbob | is curren svn head 7.16.2? |
| 19:35.49 | yukonbob | *current |
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| 20:26.02 | starseeker | yukonbob: not quite - there are a few new changes |
| 20:26.04 | starseeker | but pretty close |
| 20:32.27 | ``Erik | hm, water on the moon |
| 20:35.33 | starseeker | great, another excuse for a new bottled water brand |
| 20:35.54 | starseeker | "New - Moon Water! With a flavor out of this world!" |
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| 20:37.19 | Emton | hello? |
| 20:38.20 | starseeker | howdy |
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| 20:44.07 | ``Erik | heh, starseeker: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1443060&cid=30090924 |
| 20:44.39 | starseeker | :-D |
| 20:45.03 | starseeker | for the record, I am not PolarBearFire and I didn't see that comment ahead of time :-P |
| 20:46.42 | yukonbob | http://random-state.net/log/3467117369.html |
| 20:46.50 | yukonbob | ^-- raytracing in lisp |
| 20:47.01 | ``Erik | yup, already downloaded it |
| 20:47.13 | yukonbob | so you nerds have something to fantasize about |
| 20:47.29 | ``Erik | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=940568 |
| 20:47.36 | starseeker | sweeet |
| 20:48.34 | yukonbob | MIT licensed, too |
| 20:51.59 | CIA-61 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36483 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/ged_obj.c: Fixed a bug in go_rt_gettrees that allowed access beyond the argv's capacity. |
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| 20:57.48 | starseeker | cool - reverse engineering a fly to get motion identification algorithms |
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| 21:19.58 | Emton | hey |
| 21:20.08 | Emton | anyone still here |
| 21:20.09 | Emton | ? |
| 21:20.22 | yukonbob | "still"? |
| 21:20.22 | yukonbob | yes |
| 21:20.32 | Emton | been trying to convert the pix via ImageMagick |
| 21:20.43 | Emton | convert seems to give me problems tho |
| 21:20.53 | Emton | have any of you tried it? |
| 21:21.06 | yukonbob | can you ellaborate, Emton |
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| 21:21.39 | Emton | >convert -size 200x200 -depth 8 my.pix my.png |
| 21:21.55 | Emton | convert: Unexpected end-of-file |
| 21:22.27 | Emton | whoops, old paste my.pix -> my.rgb |
| 21:22.31 | ``Erik | convert won't know pix |
| 21:22.39 | ``Erik | use pix-png |
| 21:22.52 | Emton | hehe, yea i renamed to my.rgb |
| 21:23.13 | Emton | it is rgb raw format no? |
| 21:23.33 | Emton | i would use pix-png but it won't compile on cygwin for me |
| 21:24.21 | ``Erik | hrm, what does it do when you try to compile it? |
| 21:24.27 | ``Erik | missing png? |
| 21:24.45 | Emton | problems w/dynamic constants yada yada.. |
| 21:25.08 | Emton | the libfb doesn't have a *.la and other things |
| 21:25.17 | ``Erik | doesn't have yiddishcc, doesn't know the yadda error |
| 21:25.18 | Emton | something is probably screwed up in my env |
| 21:25.31 | ``Erik | sounds like libtool isn't clicking right |
| 21:25.38 | ``Erik | in which case, rt shouldn't have compiled... |
| 21:25.54 | Emton | no it didn't, i'm using the Win Binaries to run it |
| 21:26.02 | Emton | i just tried to compile to get pix-png |
| 21:26.06 | ``Erik | ah, those didn't come with pix-png? |
| 21:26.15 | Emton | before i wiped it w/a make distclean i had a lot of it |
| 21:26.22 | Emton | no |
| 21:26.37 | Emton | pix-png is not in the win bin's |
| 21:27.41 | ``Erik | lame |
| 21:27.51 | Emton | yep |
| 21:28.19 | Emton | i can load the pix into adobe elements and convert but i'd rather use imagemagick if it's possible |
| 21:34.47 | ``Erik | hm, imagemagick changed their manpages, I'm wondering if the "RGB" format they list is the old SGI format that has a header on it |
| 21:35.43 | ``Erik | well, n, here's the format page, hrm |
| 21:39.01 | Emton | http://www.imagemagick.org/script/formats.php |
| 21:39.10 | Emton | RGB RW Raw red, green, and blue samples Use -size and -depth to specify the image width, height, and depth. To specify a single precision floating-point format, use -define quantum:format=floating-point. Set the depth to 64 for a double precision floating-point format. |
| 21:39.49 | Emton | according to what i've read this is what the pix format should be with 3 channels |
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| 21:42.01 | Emton | according to a tip i saw from *brlcad*, you can cat something like "P6 512 512 255" and rename to pnm |
| 21:42.17 | Emton | this not working for me either tho |
| 21:45.58 | Emton | and ya, first cat > file ..header.. then cat my.pix >> file |
| 21:51.58 | Emton | anyway i guess nobody know since they probably have pix-png going good but imagemagick scripting is useful for animations anyhow |
| 21:52.08 | Emton | if i find the answer i'll post it back up here |
| 21:54.07 | brlcad | not quite that simple, I believe the P6 has to be on a separate line? |
| 21:54.42 | Emton | hmm.. maybe that's why it didn't work - i'll try it |
| 21:54.50 | brlcad | there is also already pix-ppm ... |
| 21:55.04 | brlcad | pix-[tab][tab] |
| 21:55.13 | Emton | hehe.. yea, i have problems w/my cyg-win environment |
| 21:55.23 | Emton | cannot compile much |
| 21:55.58 | brlcad | hm, pix-ppm only depends on libbu, which is one of the first of our libs to compile |
| 21:56.40 | Emton | i would tell what worked and didn't but i did a 'make distclean' |
| 21:57.00 | Emton | last night, then downloaded a bunch of new libraries and it now goes nowhere |
| 21:57.38 | Emton | GOT IT!!! |
| 21:58.11 | Emton | convert -depth 8 -size 200x200 -channel RGB rgb:moss.raw moss.png |
| 21:58.18 | Emton | does the trick i was looking for |
| 21:58.33 | brlcad | Emton: was going to just say that, heh |
| 21:58.34 | Emton | what pix-png i suppose would do, i think IM can flip it too |
| 21:58.40 | Emton | lol |
| 21:58.45 | Emton | thanks anyway |
| 21:59.08 | brlcad | that imagic magick has support for raw formats as well, they just call it 'rgb' to not confuse it with the newer "raw" camera formats |
| 21:59.38 | Emton | yea, i read the descript and it looked similar enough |
| 21:59.40 | brlcad | rgba if we added an alpha channel (which I so hope we do soon) |
| 22:00.10 | Emton | yea, would be good but i think IM can convert and even swap a bg color for alpha |
| 22:00.16 | Emton | for now anyway |
| 22:00.27 | brlcad | so can we |
| 22:00.50 | Emton | yea, its powerful i don't know half of it |
| 22:01.04 | brlcad | pix format predates alpha channelling, so most all of our tools have a concept of a background color that is used as the alpha channel |
| 22:01.27 | brlcad | just user-specified instead a convenient separate per-pixel channel |
| 22:01.33 | Emton | that's good, yea i guess you need that to RT correctly |
| 22:01.50 | brlcad | you really want a full channel, though, for proper blending and edge aliasing |
| 22:02.06 | Emton | i see, so perhaps not too hard to break it out to RGBA |
| 22:02.58 | Emton | do you know if the ANIM menu works? |
| 22:03.08 | Emton | haven't found any documentation or a clue as to how to use it |
| 22:03.12 | brlcad | saw someone use it a few months back |
| 22:03.17 | brlcad | i'm just not very versed in it |
| 22:03.39 | Emton | that's cool, is there a website? |
| 22:03.40 | brlcad | and yeah.. docs for it are limited.. there are some old docs about it somewhere, but I don't think have been uploaded anywhere |
| 22:04.25 | Emton | oh, yea i know some of this stuff like that tip you gave i only found thanks to our friendly (not sarcastic) ibot dropper |
| 22:04.57 | brlcad | ibot dropper? |
| 22:05.06 | Emton | here to be exact: http://purl.rikers.org/%23brlcad/20090512.html.gz |
| 22:05.36 | Emton | whoops, thats a new one but he's got a good collection of channel copies |
| 22:05.55 | Emton | yes, i think that ibot you see on the right is rikers bot |
| 22:06.03 | Emton | to record the channel |
| 22:06.11 | Emton | he should pop a search engine on there.. |
| 22:06.22 | brlcad | it is rikers' bot |
| 22:06.25 | Emton | so ppl.. uh.. don't feel like crawling his site |
| 22:06.41 | Emton | ok yea, i thought probly was |
| 22:07.15 | brlcad | probably the most comprehensive multi-channeled bot on irc with the largest factoid database |
| 22:07.23 | brlcad | really should clean up that website :) |
| 22:07.32 | brlcad | search for starters .. definitely |
| 22:08.13 | Emton | yea, i guess u can't really complain about er.. spidering w/out having that |
| 22:08.24 | brlcad | we probably should create an extensive to have a drupal module just suck them in daily so they're indexed with the read of our content |
| 22:08.34 | brlcad | wrapped in something a little more pretty |
| 22:08.47 | Emton | would be good |
| 22:09.06 | brlcad | google goes into .gz files, so you can just add site:rikers.org to search the existing logs |
| 22:09.18 | Emton | i also found this, http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~mike/ |
| 22:09.27 | brlcad | yeah, that's mike's old page |
| 22:09.28 | Emton | site of original BRLCAD architect |
| 22:09.31 | Emton | yea |
| 22:09.42 | Emton | didn't know he was the ping author |
| 22:09.44 | Emton | hehe |
| 22:09.48 | brlcad | I'm going to move that onto brlcad.org here some day |
| 22:10.59 | Emton | yea, it would be good to snag it before the mil wipes by accident or o/w |
| 22:11.35 | brlcad | it wouldn't be by accident, but there has already been issues with the potential "o/w" reasons |
| 22:12.03 | Emton | really? is there pushback about having BRLCAD in public domain? |
| 22:12.38 | brlcad | I already have a dump of all of the old ftp website, more just a matter of copying the files into place |
| 22:13.02 | brlcad | brl-cad is open source, not the same as being in the public domain :) |
| 22:13.24 | Emton | that's cool, as long as you have them perhaps u can just dump them for now so others can view them (perhaps painfully) |
| 22:13.29 | brlcad | and that question has little to do with mike's old website ;) |
| 22:14.00 | Emton | heh, this old website i posted? |
| 22:14.10 | brlcad | right, his homepage |
| 22:14.16 | Emton | they don't like the pictures and extra information or something? |
| 22:14.39 | brlcad | I won't/don't speak for "them" :) |
| 22:14.59 | ``Erik | shakes fist at "them" |
| 22:15.18 | Emton | hehe, well - seems good people have "accidents" too often |
| 22:16.36 | Emton | alrigth guys, back to wrok for me trying to make some BRL animations |
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