IRC log for #brlcad on 20091123

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04:09.44 starseeker hmm, cool: http://www.palomino3d.org
04:15.16 starseeker wonders just how long that'll take to compile, starting with ossim...
04:33.44 starseeker interesting history of ossim: http://www.ossim.org/OSSIM/Articles/Entries/2007/12/5_OSSIM_History.html
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11:28.40 CIA-28 BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36592 10/brlcad/trunk/include/nurb.h: Updated external declaration of CrossingCount() to reflect removal of un-used argument 'ray_dir'.
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16:37.05 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36593 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/bool.c: Need to make sure (pp->pt_forw != InputHdp) before calculating 'diff'.
17:10.57 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36594 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/bool.c: k&r style, not allman style
17:22.10 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36595 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/bool.c: ws indent, style consistency, comments, formatting
18:20.01 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36596 10/brlcad/trunk/ (configure.ac include/bu.h): just use STRICT_FLAGS to match since it's not a system feature
18:31.37 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36597 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: whoops! .. definitely do NOT want to enable std=c99, especially with strict turned on
20:12.22 ``Erik aiht, the 30w soldering pencil was insufficient, lets see how the 400w gun fares.
20:31.04 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36598 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/ (10 files): quell a slew of verbose/strict warnings
20:48.30 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36599 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/libtermlib/ (Makefile.am termcap.c): if BRLCAD_DATA isn't set, it all goes to hell. instead of having cad-specific logic, just utilize B_TERMCAP only if it's defined and let the build system pass it in.
21:00.51 starseeker hmm - still getting rt_boolweave complaints on havoc
21:01.11 brlcad starseeker: make clean in db dir?
21:01.21 starseeker tries that
21:01.30 brlcad could be something that failed asc2g
21:01.57 starseeker nope, still there
21:02.04 starseeker yours is clean?
21:02.05 brlcad there were also really obscure changes to boolfinal, but those happened over the weekend
21:02.11 brlcad havne't tried it
21:02.21 brlcad is mid-build
21:02.21 starseeker does a clean build to be sure...
21:14.51 starseeker erm
21:15.06 starseeker disables strict flags in librt and tries again...
21:18.23 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36600 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db5_types.c: cleanup
21:18.25 brlcad so you still get it?
21:18.41 starseeker dunno yet
21:18.56 starseeker my build tripped on librt ;-)
21:19.59 brlcad oh, did I commit that?
21:20.10 starseeker looks like it
21:20.18 starseeker sure didn't turn it on :-P
21:20.57 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36601 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/Makefile.am: ah, didn't mean to enable strict in here just yet.
21:24.48 starseeker erm - now adrt doesn't build
21:25.48 starseeker oh, wait...
21:26.16 starseeker perhaps I should have cleaned rt before rebuilding with the new flags...
21:33.24 starseeker oh, it's looking for things in the installed directory
21:33.25 starseeker hrm
21:33.41 starseeker installs src/other to see if that's for real...
21:34.18 starseeker yep, how very odd
21:35.46 brlcad hm?
21:35.58 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36602 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: mr butler wants fbclear to obey his -F advanced option on the ray-trace control panel (which probabaly should extend to the fbclear command). reported via sf feature request 1277535.
21:36.02 starseeker adrt was looking for libtcl in the install directory
21:36.56 brlcad erik make it use GCV instead of its sdirect dependencies
21:37.41 brlcad which should work just fine, but maybe some linkage oddness in the .la
21:39.53 starseeker wonders what -F does and looks for a man page...
21:40.38 starseeker ah, calling out the specific framebuffer
21:43.15 ``Erik hm, I thought I relied pretty heavily on transitivity
21:43.25 ``Erik pets his guitar with new bits and pieces O.o
21:44.26 ``Erik sperzal locking tuners and lace pickups O.o had to drill and solder among other horrible things, but it lives
21:46.05 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36603 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/parallel.c:
21:46.05 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: restructure bu_avail_cpus() to not use goto statements, instead trying any
21:46.05 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: method it can and just using the first one it finds that is available. move the
21:46.05 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: _SC_NPROCESSORS_ONLN (sysconf() approach) down below __APPLE__ since Mac 10.6
21:46.05 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: now supports that in addition to the original sysctl() approach.
21:46.45 brlcad what you're doing with your "bits and pieces" while petting your guitar just sounds wrong
21:47.41 yukonbob is reminded of "roses on your piano" joke... :p
21:50.41 yukonbob wow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tuVSkrdjiE
21:52.41 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36604 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: meh
21:59.01 brlcad yukonbob: nifty demo
21:59.33 yukonbob apparently part of enlightenment...
22:09.13 starseeker brlcad: yeah, still getting havoc errors
22:12.45 brlcad k
22:15.00 CIA-14 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36605 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/dm-rtgl.h src/libdm/dm-rtgl.c): Pack the global variables for rtgl into a struct. Not very helpful by itself but part of incremental changes to come.
22:45.48 ``Erik http://brlcad.org/~erik/20091123/small.html pheer.
23:04.48 starseeker pheer the guitar or the albino cat?
23:05.07 ``Erik the guitar, with its rearranged guts
23:05.25 starseeker is amused by how pure white the cat is - exact contrast to our cat ;-)
23:05.36 starseeker checks guitar warily...
23:05.42 ``Erik had to buy a new tool O.o my soldering iron wasn't able to cope with the pot
23:06.00 ``Erik heh, she's all white except for a handful ontop of her head and a black dot on her nose... the other is a tux
23:06.22 starseeker is she the laptop culprit?
23:06.43 starseeker were you repairing or upgrading the innards?
23:07.00 ``Erik yeah, and upgrading
23:07.15 starseeker sweet
23:07.18 ``Erik http://brlcad.org/~erik/20091025/ cats
23:07.42 starseeker ``Erik: trick to decoy 'em away from the laptop - get a heating pad and lay it out in some convenient place
23:08.10 starseeker doesn't know squat about guitars - what did you upgrade?
23:09.08 ``Erik tuners, the 'key' part at the end that adjusts the string tension to high end locking ones, and the pickups, the devices that convert vibrating metal strings to electrical signal via magnets and wound coils
23:09.27 starseeker cool. So clearer sound now?
23:09.28 ``Erik it's easier to string, easier to tune, holds tune a lot longer, sounds a lot better and has a MUCH longer sustain O.o
23:09.36 starseeker awesome
23:09.49 ``Erik actually, I put hot pickups in, more powerful sound :D
23:10.12 starseeker heh - looks like those two get along rather well - wonder how they decided top bunk
23:10.20 starseeker fairly young?
23:10.27 ``Erik ~6mo
23:10.32 ``Erik I think their selection there was mutual
23:10.32 starseeker nods
23:10.42 starseeker that works out
23:10.48 ``Erik and he likes laying ontop of my stepladder while she likes the couch next to me
23:11.18 louipc ``Erik: cool. what do you use to generate that photo index?
23:11.39 ``Erik wrote a quick little bash script, louipc
23:11.41 ``Erik um
23:12.01 ``Erik http://brlcad.org/~erik/files/gallery
23:12.06 ``Erik there ya go, merry xmas
23:12.20 louipc oh sweet
23:12.31 ``Erik assumes source data is 1600x1200 and in the P1010001.JPG format...
23:12.41 ``Erik cuz that's what my shitty camera produces... :)
23:13.31 starseeker ``Erik: where'd you get 'em?
23:13.47 ``Erik harford humane society, they were part of a litter found in aberdeen
23:13.51 louipc yeah I kinda started a bash script too, I haven't found a generator that satisfies me
23:14.02 ``Erik (joppa road, back behind the jones junction crap)
23:14.15 starseeker nods. Yeah, I gotta stay away from those places, I'm a terrible sucker
23:14.34 starseeker Sarah got ours from the Pittsburgh humane society
23:15.29 ``Erik went there one day, looking for a single adult cat, saw one that interested me 'cept for a bit of a tude, let the kittens in cages sniff my finger if they didn't have the "don't pet me, I haven't had a rabies shot" sign, the white one reached out and hugged my arm instead of sniffing
23:15.39 starseeker faked her out good - was very quiet and well behaved when she got introduced to Sarah - wasn't until she came home that the Cat Superlungs(tm) were revealed
23:16.02 ``Erik went there a few days later, same deal in the adult room, looked at the ones in cages, played with these two and liked 'em, then realized they were theones that hugged the other day, so I ended up taking them
23:16.19 starseeker nods
23:16.34 ``Erik heh, "I can't keep this cat, it's too loud... please take it back?" hahaha
23:16.54 starseeker oh, no - we love her. Just amused how she faked us out
23:17.04 starseeker Sarah has had Siamese before, so she knows
23:17.15 ``Erik ah, siamese tend to have a short temper iirc
23:17.30 starseeker this one is a cross with something, which apparently resulted in the black color
23:17.39 ``Erik half siamese, have satan?
23:17.43 ``Erik half
23:17.43 starseeker she doesn't have too bad of a temper unless you try to brush her
23:17.55 starseeker or god forbid, cut her nails
23:18.08 ``Erik these both accepted getting their nails cut ok
23:18.22 starseeker we got her front claws taken out eventually - was less tramatic for everyone involved
23:18.34 starseeker ah, that's a relief
23:18.39 ``Erik they also take liquid medicine orally well, pills and eardrops are another story
23:20.04 starseeker ours is older, so we haven't had to give her much so far (knock on wood)
23:20.43 starseeker picky eater though
23:20.50 ``Erik I think they probably all need something after the humane society, not exactly the best places O.o
23:21.08 starseeker yeah, rather crowded
23:21.14 ``Erik mine had some kinda protozoa I had to give htem stuff for, plus she had an infected ear
23:21.26 starseeker winces ow
23:21.40 ``Erik yes, and the eardrops were NOT easy to apply
23:21.41 starseeker have had too many of those in my day
23:21.56 starseeker yeah, cats are rather protective of their errors
23:21.59 starseeker er ears
23:22.30 ``Erik the stuff was liquid and had to be refridgeraged... cold water right in the ear...
23:23.57 ``Erik yowza, confusing stephen hawking and larry flint, low blow
23:24.29 starseeker erumhuh?
23:24.48 ``Erik simpsons
23:25.33 yukonbob watched People vs. Larry Flint other night...
23:27.30 starseeker ``Erik: do yours like to wake you up in the middle of the night?
23:29.46 ``Erik yes
23:30.09 ``Erik at first, several times... now usually just at 5
23:30.25 ``Erik <-- ponders shifting back to 6:30 O.o can't sleep in anyways
23:30.30 starseeker heh
23:31.15 ``Erik odd, my fish tank has a higher ph level than my tap water, evne after a bunch of ph decreaser
23:34.10 starseeker fish tank + cats - that sounds like fun :-)
23:37.22 ``Erik they were fascinated by the pleco before it died
23:37.41 ``Erik might need to reinforce the hood for when they figure out how to get on it O.o
23:38.32 starseeker you still have fish in there, or was it just the one?
23:39.11 starseeker always like the fish that ate along the tank cleaning it - my kind of fish, earns its keep :-)
23:39.26 ``Erik just one
23:39.31 ``Erik that's a pleco
23:39.49 ``Erik plecostomus
23:39.53 starseeker not familiar with that type
23:39.57 starseeker googles
23:40.09 ``Erik "sucker fish"
23:40.24 starseeker ah, cool
23:40.40 starseeker yeah, I'll bet they liked that :-)
23:41.20 louipc yukonbob: any good?
23:45.15 yukonbob louipc: ?
23:45.30 louipc yukonbob: the movie?
23:45.52 yukonbob louipc: ah -- yes, it is.
23:46.07 ``Erik plecos typically sit very still for long chunks of time, then move rapidly for a brief period, then go still again.. very attractive to cats, moreso than just plain old constant swimming, I imagine :)
23:46.07 louipc cool
23:46.17 yukonbob louipc: highly recommended.
23:48.07 starseeker yeah, jerky sudden movement gets their curiosity up
23:50.29 starseeker grrr... whadya mean invalid address? where'd my memory go?
23:51.57 ``Erik makes sure the sdram is pushed allt he way to the back of his bag and looks around

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