| 00:02.44 | talcite | hmm I see. | 
| 00:03.01 | talcite | Wait. we're doing monthly releases now? Big change from the summer. | 
| 00:03.33 | talcite | anyways, that'll make things easier. I'll pull the patch from SVN in the mean time if the Java docs build still fails | 
| 00:03.44 | brlcad | talcite: we've been doing monthly releases for a couple years... | 
| 00:04.08 | brlcad | we've MISSED a few release iterations ... but that's been the schedule for a long time | 
| 00:04.14 | talcite | ahh | 
| 00:04.47 | brlcad | but yeah, we missed three months in a row this summer... that was really bad | 
| 00:05.12 | brlcad | jun, jul, aug | 
| 00:05.20 | brlcad | but got back on track after that | 
| 00:05.43 | talcite | yeah. I remember that part. I was asking about the releases for awhile. Well the SVN builds worked as well | 
| 00:06.04 | brlcad | svn usually builds.. just not a stable environment | 
| 00:06.13 | talcite | anyways, we'll have results on the build soon. It's almost uploaded to koji now. | 
| 00:06.25 | brlcad | if you want a more stable environment, there is the STABLE branch, but then that changes about as rapidly as our releases :) | 
| 00:06.30 | brlcad | cool | 
| 00:13.25 | brlcad | talcite: as a workaround, it looks like setting APACHEFOP before configure can maybe override the test | 
| 00:13.57 | talcite | hmm. I don't know if you can do that from a specfile | 
| 00:13.59 | brlcad | i.e, leave documentation enabled, but set APACHEFOP to emptry string or : to disable | 
| 00:14.27 | talcite | well, we'll deal with it when it comes I suppose | 
| 00:14.34 | brlcad | I believe you can set env vars as a configure optino | 
| 00:18.04 | brlcad | testing.. yeah, ./configure APACHEFOP=: --prefix=... | 
| 00:18.12 | brlcad | just like any other --option | 
| 00:24.51 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36722 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): | 
| 00:24.51 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: rename get_solidbitv() function to rt_get_solidbitv() to be api-consistent. | 
| 00:24.51 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: change the first parameter from a long to a size_t while we're at it and mark | 
| 00:24.51 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: the old name as obsolete (even though it wasn't proper api with the bad name) | 
| 00:27.01 | talcite | brlcad: ahh yes, that's right. Also, the build went well. The only error I got was related to a specfile configuration thing. It got past the compile stage | 
| 00:30.48 | brlcad | great | 
| 00:35.02 | talcite | brlcad: do you know what the Tkhtml3.0/pkgIndex.tcl script is for? I can't see the file since it was a koji build, but it's shown up now that I'm building against 7.6.12 and F12 | 
| 00:35.20 | talcite | I need to know whether to put it in the devel package or the regular one | 
| 00:44.16 | brlcad | all tcl packages (aka extensions) have a pkgIndex.tcl file that tells tcl how to load that extension | 
| 00:44.59 | brlcad | it's a file that should get installed | 
| 00:45.15 | talcite | I see. It's strange it didn't get caught by the glob. | 
| 00:48.47 | brlcad | what do you mean? | 
| 00:49.01 | brlcad | it will get generated during compile, and should get installed during the install rule | 
| 00:50.40 | brlcad | it's a build product, like libTkhtml3.0.so | 
| 00:53.08 | talcite | I have an error because it says it's installed but not packaged. I'm missing it in the %files section. The strange thing is I have a glob %{_libdir}/%{name}/*.so | 
| 00:53.34 | talcite | both the libTkhtml3.0.so and pkgIndex.tcl files are left over | 
| 00:57.02 | brlcad | *.so is supposed to make pkgIndex.tcl ? :) | 
| 00:57.13 | brlcad | s/make/match/ | 
| 01:00.25 | talcite | heh no. *.so won't get pkgIndex.tcl. It should get libTkhtml3.0 though. Also. I don't know why pkgIndex.tcl didn't show up before. | 
| 01:10.32 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36723 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/ (14 files in 2 dirs): quell a slew of verbose strict compilation warnings, shadow warnings, unused params, floating point comparisons | 
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| 07:57.23 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36724 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (11 files in 5 dirs): ws style indent comment consistency update | 
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| 13:38.00 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36725 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ars/ars.c: | 
| 13:38.00 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: Removed trailing semi-colon on macros that expand out as a block of statements | 
| 13:38.00 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: but used as a single statement in an if-then-else expression like -> if (cond) | 
| 13:38.00 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: BLOCK1MACRO(a,b) else BLOCK2MACRO(a,b,c) Can explicitly add another block layer | 
| 13:38.00 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: if this is something the WS script is inducing?? | 
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| 14:15.12 | d-lo | was introduced to a new comedian this weekend: www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9pAv-z2ens | 
| 14:15.36 | ``Erik | is frightened O.o | 
| 14:15.47 | d-lo | its work safe. | 
| 14:15.52 | d-lo | I promise | 
| 14:15.54 | d-lo | MUWAHAHAHA | 
| 14:15.57 | ``Erik | oh, that's never stopped me before | 
| 14:16.01 | ``Erik | but is it sanity safe? | 
| 14:16.22 | d-lo | actually yeah. Its a stretch for me, i know. | 
| 14:16.38 | ``Erik | gotten that dvd mailed to you yet? | 
| 14:17.03 | d-lo | dunno, havta check | 
| 14:17.58 | ``Erik | had a buddy come visit over the weekend, realized I have wayyyyy to many wow toons when figuring out which ones I didn't work off the 'rested' for | 
| 14:18.14 | d-lo | 'rested' ? | 
| 14:19.04 | ``Erik | um, yeah, mechanism to help 'casual' players, if you're in "inn", you gain rested at a slow rate, when you kill something, you get double experience if you're rested (and the amount of extra xp subtracted from the rested value) | 
| 14:19.22 | d-lo | ah, I see. | 
| 14:19.52 | ``Erik | a week of rested is worth mebbe 2-4 hours of aggressive playing, so'z I use it as my "time to stop" indicator | 
| 14:20.27 | d-lo | heh good call. Does Wow have a builtin clock? aka set a 3 hour timer ? | 
| 14:21.12 | ``Erik | um, I think it does... I know it has 'parental controls' that allow setting a maximum number of hours per period and stuff, but I haven't tried any of those | 
| 14:21.25 | d-lo | nice :) | 
| 14:22.14 | ``Erik | it's easier on my sanity to view using up rested as a goal instead of setting something up to restrict me, y'know? | 
| 14:22.21 | ``Erik | positive spin and all | 
| 14:22.34 | d-lo | make sense | 
| 14:23.58 | d-lo | makes sense even :) | 
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| 14:39.56 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36726 10/rt^3/trunk/src/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Rearrange cmake build so that all binaries are generated in one location. | 
| 15:00.37 | ``Erik | hah, good xkcd today | 
| 15:01.15 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36727 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ars/ars.c: ah yes, run into this before. wrapping the if/else in braces so the macro semicolon doesn't cause problems. preferable so all lines syntactically are consistent (and replaceable with functions if needed). | 
| 15:10.18 | brlcad | haha, so true... http://xkcd.com/664/ | 
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| 15:19.50 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36728 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtermio/termio.c: Define COMPAT_43TTY on FreeBSD to avoid compile failure on FBSD8. This probably needs a lot more attention. | 
| 15:23.11 | ``Erik | d-lo: that y00t00b clip would make quite the interesting movie O.o | 
| 15:24.11 | d-lo | Even more Action: Get down... again! | 
| 15:24.13 | d-lo | lol | 
| 16:31.11 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36729 10/rt^3/trunk/src/adminpanel/ (AdminControlPanel.cxx AdminControlPanel.h): Slight mod to use pointers instead of reference | 
| 16:32.02 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36730 10/rt^3/trunk/src/GS/ (gsmain.cxx gsph0.cxx): Slight Rename | 
| 16:34.04 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36731 10/rt^3/trunk/src/adminpanel/ (ACPCommand.cxx ACPCommand.h AdminControlPanel.h): Forgot to remove import to antiquated header. | 
| 16:45.08 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36732 10/rt^3/trunk/src/GS/CMakeLists.txt: WS cleanup. | 
| 17:01.39 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36733 10/rt^3/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Stub in beginnings of NetMsgFactory | 
| 18:05.30 | starseeker | brlcad: heh, yeah, posted that same one earlier | 
| 18:05.48 | starseeker | xkcd is occasionally so insightful it's scary | 
| 18:06.02 | starseeker | and often just plain scary ;-) | 
| 18:07.33 | starseeker | makes a note to get cadtools compiling and check it out... might be able to have some SDL+adrt+toolkit fun... | 
| 18:07.54 | starseeker | which of course completely misses the point of getting the new SuperGUI in Ogre/Qt working... | 
| 18:09.27 | ``Erik | panda3d, w00t | 
| 18:10.34 | starseeker | blinks | 
| 18:10.44 | ``Erik | PyADR! | 
| 18:10.48 | ``Erik | PyADRT even | 
| 18:10.54 | starseeker | that makes Ogre, OSG, Panda3d, crystalspace... | 
| 18:11.00 | ``Erik | ahhhh, PISST, yes | 
| 18:11.03 | ``Erik | the python ISST | 
| 18:11.05 | ``Erik | I like it | 
| 18:11.08 | starseeker | hehe | 
| 18:11.30 | ``Erik | and a nice distribution whitepaper... "Getting PISST" | 
| 18:12.10 | ``Erik | now should the user manual be called "totally pisst"? | 
| 18:12.52 | starseeker | suggests a new signature for ``Erik's emails "Causing Trouble for the Politically Correct for 20 years and counting." | 
| 18:13.11 | ``Erik | well, thirty something, but... | 
| 18:13.34 | starseeker | ``Erik: surely you won't miss the chance to have the Quit button be "PISST off" | 
| 18:13.49 | ``Erik | was thinking about it | 
| 18:14.03 | starseeker | as long as I get to watch you brief it | 
| 18:14.11 | ``Erik | that seems a little too direct, and I couldn't think of a good sentence to embedded it into | 
| 18:14.14 | starseeker | with popcorn | 
| 18:14.54 | starseeker | "Turning PISST off - proper shutdown procedures" | 
| 18:15.16 | ``Erik | see, that doesn't flow so well | 
| 18:15.33 | starseeker | that's a title for a chapter | 
| 18:15.55 | starseeker | puts link here for himself later: http://hypertriton.com/cadtools/ | 
| 18:16.02 | ``Erik | just imagine the section going through the procedure of getting PISST on | 
| 18:16.03 | ``Erik | O.o | 
| 18:16.31 | starseeker | ``Erik: since when did government documentation "flow"? Ever try reading anything on THOMAS? | 
| 18:16.54 | ``Erik | yeah, but I like to do it with style and class. | 
| 18:17.02 | ``Erik | You should see the stuff about my balls | 
| 18:17.44 | starseeker | you're going to see that vanish one day in a blaze of glorious commits... | 
| 18:17.49 | ``Erik | http://brlcad.org/~erik/niceballs.png | 
| 18:18.24 | ``Erik | still need to fix things, subtraction is horrible.. bad things happen when you remove a chunk of my balls | 
| 18:18.27 | ``Erik | O.o | 
| 18:18.27 | starseeker | hmm - this is moderately strange... http://members.shaw.ca/tnbaker/SDLTk/ | 
| 18:18.49 | starseeker | ``Erik: obj-g is bot only at the moment, correct? | 
| 18:18.56 | ``Erik | yes | 
| 18:19.05 | ``Erik | if that much | 
| 18:20.44 | ``Erik | allt he OBJ files I've actually run across have been either triangles or quads, haven't seen a NURBS one in the wild | 
| 18:24.04 | starseeker | ``Erik: was that g-egg converter a side project or did someone want it? | 
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| 20:03.00 | ``Erik | I wanted it | 
| 20:03.22 | ``Erik | I was dorking with panda and figured it'd be interesting to import a BRL-CAD geometry into the engine | 
| 20:03.49 | starseeker | so it's fair to cite that as an open source contribution? | 
| 20:04.02 | ``Erik | yeah, was all done from home | 
| 20:04.08 | starseeker | cool | 
| 20:04.17 | ``Erik | on like a sunday | 
| 20:04.23 | ``Erik | most of the obj-g was done on a saturday I think | 
| 20:04.46 | starseeker | thought Certain People here wanted obj-g? | 
| 20:05.38 | ``Erik | it was on a low priority tracker for, uh, years | 
| 20:05.52 | ``Erik | but it didn't get any attention until I was dorking with it for fun | 
| 20:06.18 | ``Erik | actually, it was only on the tracker because I went and made a charge of importers and exporters and looked for where we couldn't do round-trip | 
| 20:06.36 | ``Erik | yeah, first obj-g.c commit was a sunday | 
| 20:06.48 | ``Erik | er, sorry, saturday | 
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| 21:18.52 | Talcite_cell | brlcad, did we get a new release of tkhtml in 7.16.2? | 
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| 21:39.41 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> | 
| 21:40.21 | brlcad | external dependency upgrades are usually documented in our TODO file as well, and nothing there | 
| 21:43.38 | talcite | I see. | 
| 21:43.48 | talcite | It's strange that these 2 new files appeared out of nowhere then. | 
| 22:03.25 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36734 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (71 files in 20 dirs): WHOOOSH! massive ws style indent comment consistency update. also includes dead code elimination and much static->HIDDEN on funcs. should be no logic changes. | 
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| 23:10.06 | ``Erik | so svn log it? heh | 
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