IRC log for #brlcad on 20091130

00:02.44 talcite hmm I see.
00:03.01 talcite Wait. we're doing monthly releases now? Big change from the summer.
00:03.33 talcite anyways, that'll make things easier. I'll pull the patch from SVN in the mean time if the Java docs build still fails
00:03.44 brlcad talcite: we've been doing monthly releases for a couple years...
00:04.08 brlcad we've MISSED a few release iterations ... but that's been the schedule for a long time
00:04.14 talcite ahh
00:04.47 brlcad but yeah, we missed three months in a row this summer... that was really bad
00:05.12 brlcad jun, jul, aug
00:05.20 brlcad but got back on track after that
00:05.43 talcite yeah. I remember that part. I was asking about the releases for awhile. Well the SVN builds worked as well
00:06.04 brlcad svn usually builds.. just not a stable environment
00:06.13 talcite anyways, we'll have results on the build soon. It's almost uploaded to koji now.
00:06.25 brlcad if you want a more stable environment, there is the STABLE branch, but then that changes about as rapidly as our releases :)
00:06.30 brlcad cool
00:13.25 brlcad talcite: as a workaround, it looks like setting APACHEFOP before configure can maybe override the test
00:13.57 talcite hmm. I don't know if you can do that from a specfile
00:13.59 brlcad i.e, leave documentation enabled, but set APACHEFOP to emptry string or : to disable
00:14.27 talcite well, we'll deal with it when it comes I suppose
00:14.34 brlcad I believe you can set env vars as a configure optino
00:18.04 brlcad testing.. yeah, ./configure APACHEFOP=: --prefix=...
00:18.12 brlcad just like any other --option
00:24.51 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36722 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
00:24.51 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: rename get_solidbitv() function to rt_get_solidbitv() to be api-consistent.
00:24.51 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: change the first parameter from a long to a size_t while we're at it and mark
00:24.51 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: the old name as obsolete (even though it wasn't proper api with the bad name)
00:27.01 talcite brlcad: ahh yes, that's right. Also, the build went well. The only error I got was related to a specfile configuration thing. It got past the compile stage
00:30.48 brlcad great
00:35.02 talcite brlcad: do you know what the Tkhtml3.0/pkgIndex.tcl script is for? I can't see the file since it was a koji build, but it's shown up now that I'm building against 7.6.12 and F12
00:35.20 talcite I need to know whether to put it in the devel package or the regular one
00:44.16 brlcad all tcl packages (aka extensions) have a pkgIndex.tcl file that tells tcl how to load that extension
00:44.59 brlcad it's a file that should get installed
00:45.15 talcite I see. It's strange it didn't get caught by the glob.
00:48.47 brlcad what do you mean?
00:49.01 brlcad it will get generated during compile, and should get installed during the install rule
00:50.40 brlcad it's a build product, like libTkhtml3.0.so
00:53.08 talcite I have an error because it says it's installed but not packaged. I'm missing it in the %files section. The strange thing is I have a glob %{_libdir}/%{name}/*.so
00:53.34 talcite both the libTkhtml3.0.so and pkgIndex.tcl files are left over
00:57.02 brlcad *.so is supposed to make pkgIndex.tcl ? :)
00:57.13 brlcad s/make/match/
01:00.25 talcite heh no. *.so won't get pkgIndex.tcl. It should get libTkhtml3.0 though. Also. I don't know why pkgIndex.tcl didn't show up before.
01:10.32 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36723 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/ (14 files in 2 dirs): quell a slew of verbose strict compilation warnings, shadow warnings, unused params, floating point comparisons
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07:57.23 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36724 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (11 files in 5 dirs): ws style indent comment consistency update
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13:38.00 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36725 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ars/ars.c:
13:38.00 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: Removed trailing semi-colon on macros that expand out as a block of statements
13:38.00 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: but used as a single statement in an if-then-else expression like -> if (cond)
13:38.00 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: BLOCK1MACRO(a,b) else BLOCK2MACRO(a,b,c) Can explicitly add another block layer
13:38.00 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: if this is something the WS script is inducing??
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14:15.12 d-lo was introduced to a new comedian this weekend: www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9pAv-z2ens
14:15.36 ``Erik is frightened O.o
14:15.47 d-lo its work safe.
14:15.52 d-lo I promise
14:15.54 d-lo MUWAHAHAHA
14:15.57 ``Erik oh, that's never stopped me before
14:16.01 ``Erik but is it sanity safe?
14:16.22 d-lo actually yeah. Its a stretch for me, i know.
14:16.38 ``Erik gotten that dvd mailed to you yet?
14:17.03 d-lo dunno, havta check
14:17.58 ``Erik had a buddy come visit over the weekend, realized I have wayyyyy to many wow toons when figuring out which ones I didn't work off the 'rested' for
14:18.14 d-lo 'rested' ?
14:19.04 ``Erik um, yeah, mechanism to help 'casual' players, if you're in "inn", you gain rested at a slow rate, when you kill something, you get double experience if you're rested (and the amount of extra xp subtracted from the rested value)
14:19.22 d-lo ah, I see.
14:19.52 ``Erik a week of rested is worth mebbe 2-4 hours of aggressive playing, so'z I use it as my "time to stop" indicator
14:20.27 d-lo heh good call. Does Wow have a builtin clock? aka set a 3 hour timer ?
14:21.12 ``Erik um, I think it does... I know it has 'parental controls' that allow setting a maximum number of hours per period and stuff, but I haven't tried any of those
14:21.25 d-lo nice :)
14:22.14 ``Erik it's easier on my sanity to view using up rested as a goal instead of setting something up to restrict me, y'know?
14:22.21 ``Erik positive spin and all
14:22.34 d-lo make sense
14:23.58 d-lo makes sense even :)
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14:39.56 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36726 10/rt^3/trunk/src/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Rearrange cmake build so that all binaries are generated in one location.
15:00.37 ``Erik hah, good xkcd today
15:01.15 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36727 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ars/ars.c: ah yes, run into this before. wrapping the if/else in braces so the macro semicolon doesn't cause problems. preferable so all lines syntactically are consistent (and replaceable with functions if needed).
15:10.18 brlcad haha, so true... http://xkcd.com/664/
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15:19.50 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36728 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtermio/termio.c: Define COMPAT_43TTY on FreeBSD to avoid compile failure on FBSD8. This probably needs a lot more attention.
15:23.11 ``Erik d-lo: that y00t00b clip would make quite the interesting movie O.o
15:24.11 d-lo Even more Action: Get down... again!
15:24.13 d-lo lol
16:31.11 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36729 10/rt^3/trunk/src/adminpanel/ (AdminControlPanel.cxx AdminControlPanel.h): Slight mod to use pointers instead of reference
16:32.02 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36730 10/rt^3/trunk/src/GS/ (gsmain.cxx gsph0.cxx): Slight Rename
16:34.04 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36731 10/rt^3/trunk/src/adminpanel/ (ACPCommand.cxx ACPCommand.h AdminControlPanel.h): Forgot to remove import to antiquated header.
16:45.08 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36732 10/rt^3/trunk/src/GS/CMakeLists.txt: WS cleanup.
17:01.39 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r36733 10/rt^3/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Stub in beginnings of NetMsgFactory
18:05.30 starseeker brlcad: heh, yeah, posted that same one earlier
18:05.48 starseeker xkcd is occasionally so insightful it's scary
18:06.02 starseeker and often just plain scary ;-)
18:07.33 starseeker makes a note to get cadtools compiling and check it out... might be able to have some SDL+adrt+toolkit fun...
18:07.54 starseeker which of course completely misses the point of getting the new SuperGUI in Ogre/Qt working...
18:09.27 ``Erik panda3d, w00t
18:10.34 starseeker blinks
18:10.44 ``Erik PyADR!
18:10.48 ``Erik PyADRT even
18:10.54 starseeker that makes Ogre, OSG, Panda3d, crystalspace...
18:11.00 ``Erik ahhhh, PISST, yes
18:11.03 ``Erik the python ISST
18:11.05 ``Erik I like it
18:11.08 starseeker hehe
18:11.30 ``Erik and a nice distribution whitepaper... "Getting PISST"
18:12.10 ``Erik now should the user manual be called "totally pisst"?
18:12.52 starseeker suggests a new signature for ``Erik's emails "Causing Trouble for the Politically Correct for 20 years and counting."
18:13.11 ``Erik well, thirty something, but...
18:13.34 starseeker ``Erik: surely you won't miss the chance to have the Quit button be "PISST off"
18:13.49 ``Erik was thinking about it
18:14.03 starseeker as long as I get to watch you brief it
18:14.11 ``Erik that seems a little too direct, and I couldn't think of a good sentence to embedded it into
18:14.14 starseeker with popcorn
18:14.54 starseeker "Turning PISST off - proper shutdown procedures"
18:15.16 ``Erik see, that doesn't flow so well
18:15.33 starseeker that's a title for a chapter
18:15.55 starseeker puts link here for himself later: http://hypertriton.com/cadtools/
18:16.02 ``Erik just imagine the section going through the procedure of getting PISST on
18:16.03 ``Erik O.o
18:16.31 starseeker ``Erik: since when did government documentation "flow"? Ever try reading anything on THOMAS?
18:16.54 ``Erik yeah, but I like to do it with style and class.
18:17.02 ``Erik You should see the stuff about my balls
18:17.44 starseeker you're going to see that vanish one day in a blaze of glorious commits...
18:17.49 ``Erik http://brlcad.org/~erik/niceballs.png
18:18.24 ``Erik still need to fix things, subtraction is horrible.. bad things happen when you remove a chunk of my balls
18:18.27 ``Erik O.o
18:18.27 starseeker hmm - this is moderately strange... http://members.shaw.ca/tnbaker/SDLTk/
18:18.49 starseeker ``Erik: obj-g is bot only at the moment, correct?
18:18.56 ``Erik yes
18:19.05 ``Erik if that much
18:20.44 ``Erik allt he OBJ files I've actually run across have been either triangles or quads, haven't seen a NURBS one in the wild
18:24.04 starseeker ``Erik: was that g-egg converter a side project or did someone want it?
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20:03.00 ``Erik I wanted it
20:03.22 ``Erik I was dorking with panda and figured it'd be interesting to import a BRL-CAD geometry into the engine
20:03.49 starseeker so it's fair to cite that as an open source contribution?
20:04.02 ``Erik yeah, was all done from home
20:04.08 starseeker cool
20:04.17 ``Erik on like a sunday
20:04.23 ``Erik most of the obj-g was done on a saturday I think
20:04.46 starseeker thought Certain People here wanted obj-g?
20:05.38 ``Erik it was on a low priority tracker for, uh, years
20:05.52 ``Erik but it didn't get any attention until I was dorking with it for fun
20:06.18 ``Erik actually, it was only on the tracker because I went and made a charge of importers and exporters and looked for where we couldn't do round-trip
20:06.36 ``Erik yeah, first obj-g.c commit was a sunday
20:06.48 ``Erik er, sorry, saturday
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21:18.52 Talcite_cell brlcad, did we get a new release of tkhtml in 7.16.2?
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21:39.41 brlcad <PROTECTED>
21:40.21 brlcad external dependency upgrades are usually documented in our TODO file as well, and nothing there
21:43.38 talcite I see.
21:43.48 talcite It's strange that these 2 new files appeared out of nowhere then.
22:03.25 CIA-41 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36734 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (71 files in 20 dirs): WHOOOSH! massive ws style indent comment consistency update. also includes dead code elimination and much static->HIDDEN on funcs. should be no logic changes.
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23:10.06 ``Erik so svn log it? heh
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