00:57.31 |
*** join/#brlcad R0b0t1
(n=Enigma@unaffiliated/r0b0t1) |
01:25.49 |
*** join/#brlcad jesica__
(n=jesica@201.255.230.172) |
01:39.32 |
brlcad |
jesica__: nice work on the
translation |
01:39.33 |
brlcad |
se ve bien |
01:40.24 |
jesica__ |
brlcad, im doing the lastest
correction |
01:40.38 |
jesica__ |
definitly the last, i swear |
01:41.10 |
jesica__ |
there are various thing i note in
pdf |
01:42.36 |
jesica__ |
there are two things i cant change |
01:43.00 |
jesica__ |
the advertise <caution> and <note>
:( |
01:47.33 |
brlcad |
the english can be changed too :) |
01:49.21 |
brlcad |
oh and when I mentioned submitting a patch, I
didn't mean an entire new sourceforge project :) |
01:52.23 |
jesica__ |
i didnt do that, my subcription is still on
process :P |
01:52.46 |
brlcad |
there's no subscription required.... |
01:52.49 |
jesica__ |
a friend have done it for me |
01:53.01 |
brlcad |
you just create an account, submit the
patch |
01:53.23 |
jesica__ |
well, the account in sourgeforce ned
confirmation |
01:53.31 |
jesica__ |
ned/need |
01:53.45 |
brlcad |
ah, and that takes time? :) |
01:53.54 |
brlcad |
should have sent an instant
confirmation |
01:55.29 |
mafm |
brlcad: the Google IO 2009 video is a bit...
below par :P |
01:55.57 |
brlcad |
mafm: which video?? |
01:56.05 |
jesica__ |
brlcad, ive tried to do it again but said that
i was registered |
01:56.07 |
mafm |
at least the one from Mr Linus was more...
fun |
01:56.23 |
mafm |
brlcad: the video about "the myth of the
genius programmer" that you posted to the ml a while ago |
01:56.25 |
jesica__ |
but when entrying, it said i need
confirmation |
01:56.29 |
jesica__ |
:( |
01:59.50 |
brlcad |
mafm: not sure what you mean by "below par",
wasn't meant to be earth shattering, more just lots of interesting
points |
02:00.02 |
brlcad |
particularly with regards to egos and hidden
development practices |
02:03.02 |
mafm |
I actually expected to give more examples, or
actual examples |
02:03.21 |
brlcad |
*shrug* |
02:03.25 |
brlcad |
expectations amiss ;) |
02:03.27 |
mafm |
in the "sweet spot" thing about when to
involve ppl, there are no examples at all :) |
02:03.56 |
mafm |
just like... "don't get ppl involved too
early, also not too late!" |
02:04.33 |
brlcad |
jesica__: what's your username? |
02:04.41 |
mafm |
the topic looked very promising for me,
though |
02:05.05 |
jesica__ |
mmm i forgot jajaja |
02:05.16 |
mafm |
I guess that you were trying to make the same
point, directed at some devels :P |
02:05.29 |
jesica__ |
but it should be giudicejesica |
02:05.48 |
brlcad |
there's not a formula you apply, more a set of
guidelines to consider and apply, case by case basis |
02:07.30 |
brlcad |
jesica__: sent you a test message |
02:08.20 |
brlcad |
jesica__: https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php |
02:08.39 |
brlcad |
escoje email recovery |
02:08.58 |
brlcad |
ponga tu email |
02:09.49 |
brlcad |
if that doesn't work, you either have a spam
filter that thought the account registration was spam or you had a
typo in you email address when you registered |
02:10.06 |
mafm |
elige, pon :) |
02:10.31 |
jesica__ |
brlcad, so i can change <note> by
<nota> without a trouble? |
02:10.54 |
brlcad |
jesica__: no, everything within <>
should not be translated, they're tags |
02:11.22 |
brlcad |
like html,
<html><head></head>... you don't translate
those, only what is between them |
02:12.02 |
brlcad |
ahh, is it writing "Note:" in the output
somewhere? |
02:12.17 |
brlcad |
if so, that's not something in the xml file ..
we can fix that |
02:14.29 |
jesica__ |
mmm, so i leave it and you fix it? |
02:14.37 |
brlcad |
yeah |
02:15.13 |
brlcad |
a "note" to starseeker to do something about
that when he integrates your change ;) |
02:15.27 |
brlcad |
needs a .es stylesheet customization |
02:15.48 |
brlcad |
or better yet, get the english one
out |
02:16.11 |
brlcad |
or gettext the stylesheet if it's more
pervasive |
02:17.13 |
brlcad |
jesica__: https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Support |
02:17.50 |
brlcad |
maybe tomorrow you can get ahold of someone on
irc, to tell them your account registration e-mail never
arrived |
02:17.52 |
jesica__ |
brlcad, the firs image is too large, you
should fix that too |
02:18.18 |
brlcad |
jesica__: definitely :) |
02:18.54 |
brlcad |
jesica__: so if you're going to be doing more
translations, we can get you set up with svn as soon as you have a
sourceforge account :) |
02:19.56 |
jesica__ |
in one line, say that both DELETE and
BACKSPACE erase the character on the lefth, thats true? |
02:21.12 |
brlcad |
yes |
02:21.21 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36830
10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/: initial stub for the
spanish translations that jesica has been working on |
02:22.54 |
jesica__ |
and just one thing before to finish |
02:23.17 |
brlcad |
it's never really finished :) |
02:23.18 |
jesica__ |
rename a sphere, f.e., is to create
one |
02:23.42 |
starseeker |
brlcad: not really sure how to do language
specific stylesheets |
02:23.52 |
starseeker |
will have to look into it when my headache
goes away |
02:23.56 |
brlcad |
starseeker: we really shouldn't |
02:24.01 |
brlcad |
ideally should be language agnostic |
02:24.30 |
brlcad |
if we have to, can let gettext do the
substitutions on the fly |
02:26.20 |
jesica__ |
mmm, ive done silly thing on mi laptop :P,
could you send me the link to download the source code
again? |
02:26.30 |
starseeker |
oh:
http://oreilly.com/catalog/docbook/chapter/book/ch04.html#AEN5446 |
02:26.31 |
brlcad |
~cadsvn |
02:26.32 |
ibot |
To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn
checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk
brlcad |
02:26.51 |
starseeker |
jesica__: you can install
subversion? |
02:27.22 |
brlcad |
starseeker: ah, nice find.. there ya
go |
02:27.24 |
starseeker |
we need a "language driver" |
02:27.42 |
starseeker |
yay, one more thing to mess up the docbook
build with ;-) |
02:28.29 |
starseeker |
will need to generate the driver file from a
.in file |
02:28.54 |
starseeker |
doggone it, hate to mess with that level of
docbook but I guess no choice |
02:29.02 |
starseeker |
would probably have had to anyhow... |
02:29.46 |
brlcad |
the stylesheets needed to be ripped a new one
regardless |
02:30.03 |
starseeker |
heh - not liking the defaults, eh? |
02:30.29 |
brlcad |
noep |
02:30.43 |
jesica__ |
"To recall the sphere, type the command on the
Command Line as follows:" |
02:30.43 |
starseeker |
remembers all the fun in the
firebird docs.. time to look at that again, I
guess |
02:31.08 |
jesica__ |
draw == recall? |
02:31.32 |
starseeker |
er - redraw probably |
02:31.35 |
brlcad |
basically, yes |
02:31.37 |
brlcad |
to draw it again |
02:31.44 |
brlcad |
to draw the sphere again, ... |
02:31.47 |
jesica__ |
oh ok |
02:31.49 |
jesica__ |
thanks |
02:33.47 |
starseeker |
brlcad: the other major problem I am aware of
with translations is if we make the file list variable based on
$LANG or some such, won't the build crap out if the es or whatever
directories don't have all the xml files the en directories
do? |
02:33.49 |
jesica__ |
brlcad, now your are wrong, it finally
finished |
02:34.02 |
brlcad |
what finished? |
02:34.09 |
starseeker |
translating I think :-) |
02:34.13 |
brlcad |
oh YOU are finished.. heh |
02:34.15 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, yes |
02:34.19 |
brlcad |
the document itself is never finished
:) |
02:34.20 |
jesica__ |
jajjaja |
02:34.23 |
brlcad |
jej |
02:34.33 |
jesica__ |
yes, since yesterday |
02:34.57 |
brlcad |
even the english isn't "finished".. it's just
where it is now |
02:37.44 |
brlcad |
starseeker: absolutely, once you add in l10n
it really needs a driver |
02:38.10 |
brlcad |
you need more complex logic to build the
docs |
02:38.10 |
starseeker |
um - driver? |
02:38.12 |
brlcad |
a script |
02:38.19 |
brlcad |
or program |
02:38.26 |
starseeker |
nnnooooooo.... (trails off
pathetically) |
02:38.28 |
brlcad |
something where you can embed the logic it
needs |
02:38.56 |
brlcad |
could still keep it simple and continue to
itemize |
02:39.12 |
starseeker |
no, we need scalable |
02:39.29 |
brlcad |
separate Makefile.am into a Makefile.en and
Makefile.es .. include them in the Makefile.am |
02:39.41 |
starseeker |
I just can't believe we finally got a nice
(almost) working parallel docbook build using automake and now we
get to blow it to hell |
02:40.02 |
brlcad |
that way you could even keep the Makefiles
down with the XML files, and recursively include them up |
02:40.35 |
starseeker |
well... maybe |
02:40.52 |
brlcad |
so the es build file would only be as complex
as the quantity of files that have been converted |
02:41.21 |
starseeker |
can includes be conditionalized? |
02:41.43 |
starseeker |
or I suppose it doesn't matter if they live
inthe files |
02:42.50 |
brlcad |
i believe so, but shouldn't matter |
02:43.59 |
starseeker |
oh, while I'm thinking about it - I have a
hunch that parallel build failure is in some way shape or form the
falt of xsltproc |
02:47.42 |
starseeker |
unfortunately, the alternatives all seem to be
java based |
03:02.20 |
starseeker |
emails xslt
list |
03:11.05 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) |
04:20.35 |
*** join/#brlcad talcite
(n=matthew@69-165-156-198.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
05:11.42 |
*** join/#brlcad cpc26
(n=cpc26@72.170.156.241) |
05:32.26 |
*** join/#brlcad talcite
(n=matthew@69-196-132-106.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
06:30.29 |
*** join/#brlcad talcite_
(n=matthew@69-165-151-93.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
11:19.28 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
11:19.28 |
*** join/#brlcad Ralith
(n=ralith@69.90.48.97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
11:19.28 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
11:26.04 |
*** join/#brlcad ChanServ
(ChanServ@services.) |
11:26.04 |
*** mode/#brlcad [+o ChanServ]
by irc.freenode.net |
11:59.29 |
*** join/#brlcad Ralith
(n=ralith@69.90.48.97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
11:59.29 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
11:59.29 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:07.04 |
*** join/#brlcad Ralith
(n=ralith@69.90.48.97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:07.04 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:07.04 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:13.44 |
*** join/#brlcad Ralith
(n=ralith@69.90.48.97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:13.44 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:13.44 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:16.36 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:16.36 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:21.24 |
*** join/#brlcad archivist
(n=archivis@81.149.119.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:21.24 |
*** join/#brlcad Maloeran
(n=maloeran@glvortex.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:21.24 |
*** join/#brlcad yukonbob
(i=1000@s142-179-54-198.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
12:21.24 |
*** join/#brlcad alex_joni
(n=alex_jon@emc/board-of-directors/alexjoni) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
12:21.24 |
*** join/#brlcad starseeker
(n=starseek@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:21.25 |
*** join/#brlcad Ralith
(n=ralith@69.90.48.97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:33.15 |
*** join/#brlcad SWPadnos
(n=Me@emc/developer/SWPadnos) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:33.15 |
*** join/#brlcad d-lo
(n=claymore@63.246.136.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
12:56.25 |
*** join/#brlcad d_rossberg
(n=rossberg@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) |
13:45.17 |
brlcad |
http://www.junauza.com/2009/12/free-and-open-source-cad-software-for.html |
13:49.02 |
alex_joni |
another nice (although really young one) is
HeeksCad (also OpenCascade based) |
13:49.12 |
alex_joni |
http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ |
14:31.13 |
``Erik |
wait, what? O.o damn, I musta been
confused |
14:51.16 |
``Erik |
that whole voodoo needs to be redone
:/ |
14:52.05 |
brlcad |
the metavoodoo? |
14:52.26 |
``Erik |
heh, yeah, walking meatball voodoo |
14:52.59 |
``Erik |
the find intersection function will be core to
the next ... implementation |
14:53.25 |
``Erik |
will probably cost performance, but
*shrug* |
15:04.13 |
starseeker |
brlcad: FreeCAD looks great, but I have yet to
successfully compile it even on gentoo |
15:04.39 |
starseeker |
heh - nifty, they used my dxf probe model
screenshot |
15:06.11 |
starseeker |
varkon I've got working but haven't put the
time into actually figuring out - it's GPL so we can't use it
anyhow... |
15:08.00 |
starseeker |
that's easily one of the niftier varkon
screenshots I've seen |
15:09.38 |
starseeker |
one interesting thing about varkon is they
apparently do parametric stuff |
15:12.43 |
brlcad |
hates
paperwork |
15:13.19 |
brlcad |
thinks it's funny they used
the tux render |
15:13.30 |
brlcad |
but we did get top billing, good times
;) |
15:14.12 |
starseeker |
yes, that's interesting - particularly since
FreeCAD is kicking our butts in the "modern CAD GUI with drawing
generation and stuff..." department |
15:14.37 |
starseeker |
suggests an intelligent reviewer :-) |
15:14.46 |
brlcad |
they lack most of the nuts and bolts, actual
usefulness |
15:15.01 |
brlcad |
but yeah, gui is not too shabby |
15:15.09 |
brlcad |
wouldn't take much to one-up them
though |
15:15.14 |
starseeker |
hehe |
15:16.13 |
starseeker |
if they're for real about that STEP part to
svg drawing extraction, that's not too shabby |
15:16.40 |
brlcad |
opencascade does that for them |
15:16.46 |
starseeker |
ah |
15:17.33 |
starseeker |
wonders if a step export
capabilitiy would let us get some good out of
opencascade... |
15:17.39 |
``Erik |
'larrabee is dead' http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2356725,00.asp |
15:18.08 |
brlcad |
there was a /. earlier in the week |
15:18.17 |
brlcad |
"dead for consumer, but not as a dev
platform" |
15:18.20 |
brlcad |
something to that effect |
15:20.15 |
starseeker |
snorts in bemusement - they
must be rather red faced after all that promotion this
summer |
15:21.27 |
starseeker |
hopes freecad does well -
good for open source if they can expose opencascade's abilities in
a usable interface |
15:24.42 |
brlcad |
hopes freecad does well,
despite using opencascade |
15:25.45 |
brlcad |
opencascade isn't a healthy project to
utilizing, particularly for collaboration |
15:26.10 |
starseeker |
do they still have that funny
license? |
15:26.29 |
brlcad |
as our Geometry Engine API comes to fruition,
hopefully projects will have more options for CAD frameworks to
build upon |
15:27.41 |
starseeker |
nods |
15:28.57 |
starseeker |
3d shaded displays, parametric modeling, and
the whole drawings thing... guess I'd better get busy
:-P |
15:29.54 |
brlcad |
and that's just noting the features that we
don't support |
15:30.08 |
brlcad |
we actually do a lot more than
opencascade |
15:30.12 |
brlcad |
just not in a clean API |
15:30.34 |
starseeker |
nods |
15:31.10 |
brlcad |
we really need major refactoring to leverage
and better present what we have too |
15:31.10 |
brlcad |
get the core libs cleaned up as stand-alone
projects |
15:31.10 |
brlcad |
get the converts into a library of their
own |
15:31.10 |
starseeker |
yep - I was surprised to hear the framebuffer
stuff supported imagemagick style maniulations |
15:31.10 |
brlcad |
same for the data processing tools |
15:31.22 |
starseeker |
and I work on this sucker full time
:-P |
15:31.23 |
brlcad |
get that all wrapped up into one unified
API |
15:32.54 |
brlcad |
yeah, the fb stuff is kind of funny .. you
could almost implement a mini photoshop/gimp clone if you put all
our tools into one gui .. and have it be fully scriptable via
commands |
15:33.18 |
brlcad |
granted, maybe "photoshop 3", but not too
shabby for something entirely not our focus, just core
needs |
15:33.51 |
brlcad |
the image processing stuff isn't as
interesting, though, as our geometry conversion capability and
data/signal processing tools |
15:34.05 |
brlcad |
image processing has come a long way since
then |
15:35.09 |
starseeker |
oh, speaking of conversion - do you know of a
good list of "object types in cad formats" anywhere? sort of a
"dxf supports..., 3dm supports..." sorta comparison? |
15:35.27 |
brlcad |
heck, if we had a solid geometry conversion
capability alone, that would kick up our community usage
substantially (everyone needs geometry) |
15:35.47 |
brlcad |
no, not really |
15:35.58 |
starseeker |
shucks |
15:36.01 |
brlcad |
would make a nice chart |
15:36.07 |
brlcad |
features list |
15:36.12 |
starseeker |
was thinking about making
one |
15:36.16 |
starseeker |
for converter status |
15:36.35 |
brlcad |
i've seen some informal one on a site
somewhere a long while back |
15:36.42 |
starseeker |
sorta a way to represent "yes we do obj, but
not NURBS - please add that" |
15:37.06 |
starseeker |
or "we do 3dm nurbs, but not meshes" |
15:37.39 |
starseeker |
supposes he could just grab
all the object types in step and assume that would conver
everything... |
15:38.50 |
starseeker |
also, such a list would be helpful for
"pivoting" between formats |
15:39.08 |
brlcad |
nice lil start,
http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/guide/3DGeometryAndModelingFormats.html |
15:41.17 |
starseeker |
reflects he could always go
the mathematical categorization route, has the advantage of being
format agnostic |
15:42.13 |
brlcad |
yeah, there are various "features" encompassed
by a given format, and it's capabilities |
15:42.18 |
brlcad |
numeric capabilities |
15:42.21 |
brlcad |
geometric |
15:42.32 |
brlcad |
representation types |
15:43.14 |
brlcad |
categorizations (object counts, groupings,
layerings, hierarchies) |
15:43.43 |
brlcad |
connectivity and associations |
15:43.55 |
brlcad |
construction history, revisions |
15:44.15 |
starseeker |
yeah, the more I think about it that's the way
to go - the internal libgcv representation shouldn't be any
particular CAD file format (even .g) since that would by definition
limit what the conversion routines could handle to what the format
could handle |
15:44.36 |
brlcad |
parametric support, annotations, non-geometric
entities, animation entities, kinematic controls, ... |
15:45.54 |
brlcad |
that's nice to say, but probably not practical
-- depends where/how you draw the line |
15:46.07 |
starseeker |
sure |
15:46.12 |
brlcad |
something has to process the data, and in
libgcv's case, that'd be libgcv and librt |
15:46.46 |
brlcad |
and if librt is processing the data, it's
basically .g, but just in an in-memory form |
15:47.03 |
starseeker |
dunno - I'd have to think about it
some |
15:47.32 |
brlcad |
there's only one format I know of that was
designed to try and capture anything/everything, that being
STEP |
15:47.43 |
brlcad |
it's basically union of all CAD
formats |
15:47.54 |
brlcad |
even where it makes no sense
whatsoever |
15:48.20 |
*** join/#brlcad mafm
(n=mafm@249.Red-88-11-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
15:48.42 |
brlcad |
our format is the next closest, though only
"supporting" unsupported features through opaque binary
storage |
15:48.58 |
starseeker |
which isn't very helpful for
conversion |
15:49.03 |
brlcad |
STEPs not exactly an in-memory format
either |
15:49.19 |
*** join/#brlcad Elrohir
(n=kvirc@p5B14AF53.dip.t-dialin.net) |
15:49.43 |
brlcad |
it can be, but pita to use that way |
15:49.54 |
starseeker |
nods |
15:50.27 |
brlcad |
structurally, we're one of the most flexible
by far, given we started on the CSG side of the spectrum with
implicits |
15:51.25 |
brlcad |
try stashing a hyperboloid of one sheet in
implicit form into STEP (maybe possible, but I'm sure we have a
few that aren't) |
15:52.00 |
brlcad |
a table would be interesting |
15:52.10 |
starseeker |
But I was under the impression that you didn't
want to have support for non-3d objects in BRL-CAD except as
subsets of sketch, which would seem rather convoluted from the
standpoint of conversion (most systems seem to be fine with storing
loose curves, for example) |
15:52.24 |
brlcad |
it's be a freaking huge table, hundreds of
features to consider |
15:52.34 |
starseeker |
yep |
15:53.00 |
starseeker |
accurate representation of the complexity of
the task though |
15:54.03 |
brlcad |
that's not been an intentional impression --
annotations are non-3d, image objects, material objects, shader
objects, wireframe objects.. |
15:55.00 |
brlcad |
that said |
15:55.05 |
brlcad |
I don't believe we should focus on our weakest
points |
15:55.22 |
brlcad |
our focus is solid modeling |
15:55.40 |
brlcad |
the other entity types would be fine to have,
but we have very limited resources |
15:56.05 |
brlcad |
rather do what we do very well than do a lot
half-assed |
15:56.36 |
starseeker |
sure - I'm not saying we focus on doing
anything with them, just know enough about them to convert them in
the libraries so other apps will be inclined to use our
converters |
15:56.41 |
``Erik |
"BRL-CAD - the whole ass." |
15:56.45 |
starseeker |
(and enhance them) |
15:56.49 |
brlcad |
``Erik: :) |
15:58.07 |
brlcad |
i'd have no problem with basic I/O support so
things are preserved.. never been an issue |
15:58.16 |
brlcad |
just a matter of how |
15:58.24 |
brlcad |
and what |
16:00.04 |
brlcad |
especially for things that can be generalized
in a useful manner, and seamlessly integrated, not as
one-offs |
16:00.27 |
starseeker |
right |
16:01.40 |
starseeker |
I just think it deserves some careful planning
and thought up front, so the converters can expand as needed to
encompass what needs to be encompassed to successfully perform high
quality geometry conversions |
16:02.10 |
starseeker |
if that needs .g changes rel8 seems the
logical time :-) |
16:05.17 |
*** join/#brlcad jesica__
(n=jesica@201.255.230.172) |
16:05.29 |
starseeker |
hey jesica__ :-) |
16:05.40 |
jesica__ |
good morning :P |
16:06.52 |
jesica__ |
today is holiday! excellent! |
16:14.07 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36831
10/isst/trunk/src/gui.c: Collapse duplicate functionality. Allow
multiple regions in the local load callback. Use librt's timing
routines. |
16:22.00 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36832
10/isst/trunk/src/ (gui.c net_worker.c): move
load_frame_attribute() into net_worker.c |
16:29.09 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36833
10/isst/trunk/src/gui.c: default to PNG and flip image for
screeshot. |
16:29.48 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, have you ever drink
mate? |
16:35.20 |
starseeker |
jesica__: uh, what? |
16:37.11 |
jesica__ |
mate is a warm drink like the coffe, but itve
a special procedure to prepare |
16:39.04 |
starseeker |
ah, no I get my caffine from soda |
16:40.25 |
brlcad |
starseeker: sure, but that is also exactly the
balance that has to be struck.. the "careful planning and thought
up front" all take valuable time and energy from other potential
tasks, so also have to be careful to not overinvest effort for
something that isn't a strong suit |
16:40.45 |
brlcad |
getting our existing converters cleaned up and
turned into an API for *exactly* what they do now, would be a huge
win |
16:41.12 |
brlcad |
and that's a crapload of work in
itself |
16:41.36 |
brlcad |
jesica__: happy holiday! :) |
16:41.46 |
jesica__ |
idem :) |
16:42.47 |
jesica__ |
im trying to convert the xml to pdf by
myself |
16:42.55 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, its not so easy |
16:43.12 |
brlcad |
jesica__: did you get an svn
checkout? |
16:43.24 |
jesica__ |
and i can drive emacs, god! i cant even read
it wel |
16:43.31 |
jesica__ |
mmm no |
16:43.44 |
brlcad |
do you have svn installed? |
16:43.55 |
jesica__ |
mmm no |
16:44.07 |
brlcad |
heh, can you install it? :) |
16:44.35 |
jesica__ |
i think so |
16:45.54 |
brlcad |
if you install it, you can get a copy of the
sources that will stay synchronized with the rest of us |
16:46.28 |
jesica__ |
something similar to starseeker send me
yesterday? |
16:48.47 |
jesica__ |
well, the thing is that starseeker told me
some days ago that he`ve done the conversion with emacs and i
thougt it is a good oportunity to learn to use emacs |
16:50.46 |
jesica__ |
I have limited knowledge in regard to
computing in general, but im trying to change that it the tidiest
way :) |
16:51.52 |
jesica__ |
learning separate things without an order, so
then unit them all togheter and see what happen between
them |
16:52.19 |
jesica__ |
rarest things can happen, i swear |
16:52.54 |
brlcad |
learn |
16:52.59 |
brlcad |
er, sorry |
16:53.06 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36834
10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.xml:
an initial revision of the spanish translation work being done by
Jesica Giudice (with some support from Federico Calvo) |
16:53.06 |
brlcad |
learning emacs is a great thing :) |
16:54.29 |
*** join/#brlcad PrezKennedyII
(i=Matthew@whitecalf.net) |
16:54.38 |
brlcad |
this was very helpful for me when I was
learning: http://brlcad.org/~sean/emacs_22_reference_card.pdf |
16:55.06 |
brlcad |
lo siento que no lo tengo en espa?ol |
16:56.04 |
jesica__ |
shoul i translate this too, jajja |
16:56.04 |
jesica__ |
wow, such a large cheatsheet! |
16:57.03 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36835
10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/Makefile.am: add the .es lesson to the
dist |
17:04.06 |
jesica__ |
i saw emacs uses a particularly nerd? way to
explain its function |
17:08.14 |
*** join/#brlcad ChanServ
(ChanServ@services.) |
17:08.14 |
*** join/#brlcad PrezKennedyII
(i=Matthew@whitecalf.net) |
17:08.14 |
*** join/#brlcad jesica__
(n=jesica@201.255.230.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.14 |
*** join/#brlcad Elrohir
(n=kvirc@p5B14AF53.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:08.14 |
*** join/#brlcad d-lo
(n=claymore@63.246.136.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.23 |
*** join/#brlcad SWPadnos
(n=Me@emc/developer/SWPadnos) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.23 |
*** join/#brlcad Ralith
(n=ralith@69.90.48.97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.23 |
*** join/#brlcad starseeker
(n=starseek@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.23 |
*** join/#brlcad alex_joni
(n=alex_jon@emc/board-of-directors/alexjoni) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:08.23 |
*** join/#brlcad yukonbob
(i=1000@s142-179-54-198.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:08.23 |
*** join/#brlcad Maloeran
(n=maloeran@glvortex.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad archivist
(n=archivis@81.149.119.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad indianla1ry
(n=indianla@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad brlcad
(n=sean@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad dtidrow
(n=Don@c-71-238-51-148.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad b0ef
(n=b0ef@157.26.202.84.customer.cdi.no) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad roberthl
(n=robert@silentflame/member/roberthl) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad CIA-41
(n=CIA@208.69.182.149) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad poolio
(n=poolio@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** join/#brlcad ``Erik
(n=erik@c-69-140-109-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:08.24 |
*** mode/#brlcad [+oo ChanServ
brlcad] by irc.freenode.net |
17:08.53 |
jesica__ |
brlcad, somebody told my that it uses to delay
:P |
17:08.53 |
jesica__ |
oh no, more irc on english!!! |
17:08.56 |
brlcad |
they're good people, easy to talk to |
17:08.57 |
brlcad |
it's not that much of a delay |
17:08.57 |
brlcad |
not for account creation |
17:09.03 |
brlcad |
creating new projects has a delay |
17:09.11 |
brlcad |
they are manually reviewed and
approved |
17:09.18 |
brlcad |
but not new accounts |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad ChanServ
(ChanServ@services.) |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad PrezKennedyII
(i=Matthew@whitecalf.net) |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad jesica__
(n=jesica@201.255.230.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad Elrohir
(n=kvirc@p5B14AF53.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad d-lo
(n=claymore@63.246.136.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad SWPadnos
(n=Me@emc/developer/SWPadnos) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad Ralith
(n=ralith@69.90.48.97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad starseeker
(n=starseek@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.16 |
*** join/#brlcad alex_joni
(n=alex_jon@emc/board-of-directors/alexjoni) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad yukonbob
(i=1000@s142-179-54-198.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad Maloeran
(n=maloeran@glvortex.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad archivist
(n=archivis@81.149.119.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad indianla1ry
(n=indianla@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad brlcad
(n=sean@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad dtidrow
(n=Don@c-71-238-51-148.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad b0ef
(n=b0ef@157.26.202.84.customer.cdi.no) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad roberthl
(n=robert@silentflame/member/roberthl) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad CIA-41
(n=CIA@208.69.182.149) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad poolio
(n=poolio@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** join/#brlcad ``Erik
(n=erik@c-69-140-109-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:17.17 |
*** mode/#brlcad [+oo ChanServ
brlcad] by irc.freenode.net |
17:18.14 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36836
10/brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: Credit Jesica Guidice for her work
translating our documentation to Spanish. Met via irc channel, her
first contribution was on Vol IIs tutorial lessons.
Thanks! |
17:18.21 |
*** join/#brlcad mafm
(n=mafm@249.Red-88-11-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
17:18.24 |
brlcad |
jesica__: hopefully spelled your name right?
:) |
17:18.47 |
*** join/#brlcad PrezKennedy
(i=Matthew@whitecalf.net) |
17:19.02 |
jesica__ |
what did i now, ugh! |
17:19.27 |
brlcad |
nothing bad, I just credited you in our
authorship file |
17:23.44 |
jesica__ |
which parametres SF verifies to calculate the
percentage of activity? |
17:24.07 |
brlcad |
which activity? |
17:24.15 |
jesica__ |
yours is realy high |
17:24.45 |
jesica__ |
the activity of the project |
17:26.20 |
brlcad |
takes in download statistics, sourcecode
commits, forum postings, webpage views, iirc |
17:27.08 |
jesica__ |
aaaah irc :) jejjeje |
17:27.11 |
brlcad |
tracker mods too |
17:27.16 |
brlcad |
not irc :) |
17:27.29 |
brlcad |
iirc == if i recall correctly |
17:27.34 |
brlcad |
se recuerdo bien |
17:27.38 |
brlcad |
si* |
17:27.56 |
jesica__ |
ops |
17:29.28 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36837
10/brlcad/branches/STABLE/doc/docbook/fop.xconf.in: Hmm, somehow
fop.xconf.in didn't make it into STABLE. |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad ChanServ
(ChanServ@services.) |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad mafm
(n=mafm@249.Red-88-11-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad PrezKennedyII
(i=Matthew@whitecalf.net) |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad jesica__
(n=jesica@201.255.230.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad Elrohir
(n=kvirc@p5B14AF53.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad d-lo
(n=claymore@63.246.136.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad SWPadnos
(n=Me@emc/developer/SWPadnos) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad Ralith
(n=ralith@69.90.48.97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad starseeker
(n=starseek@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad alex_joni
(n=alex_jon@emc/board-of-directors/alexjoni) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad yukonbob
(i=1000@s142-179-54-198.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad Maloeran
(n=maloeran@glvortex.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad archivist
(n=archivis@81.149.119.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad indianla1ry
(n=indianla@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad brlcad
(n=sean@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad dtidrow
(n=Don@c-71-238-51-148.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad b0ef
(n=b0ef@157.26.202.84.customer.cdi.no) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad roberthl
(n=robert@silentflame/member/roberthl) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad CIA-41
(n=CIA@208.69.182.149) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad poolio
(n=poolio@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** join/#brlcad ``Erik
(n=erik@c-69-140-109-104.hsd1.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT
VICTIM] |
17:39.41 |
*** mode/#brlcad [+oo ChanServ
brlcad] by irc.freenode.net |
17:41.26 |
mafm |
heh :) |
17:41.37 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36838
10/isst/trunk/src/gui.c: use CLAMP from vmath |
17:43.28 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, you used fop on emacs? |
17:43.55 |
jesica__ |
i used it on vim, but not succefully |
17:44.13 |
starseeker |
fop is a command line tool |
17:44.44 |
starseeker |
jesica__: let me start from the
beginning |
17:44.48 |
starseeker |
(one second) |
17:45.00 |
jesica__ |
well, so fop do the job, not emacs! |
17:45.43 |
*** join/#brlcad louipc
(n=louipc@69-165-135-165.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
17:49.15 |
starseeker |
the process of converting from docbook to
pdf: |
17:49.27 |
starseeker |
use xsltproc to generate a .fo file |
17:49.39 |
starseeker |
use fop to convert the fo file to a pdf
file |
17:50.14 |
starseeker |
look in doc/docbook |
17:50.52 |
starseeker |
what Operating System are you using? |
17:52.22 |
starseeker |
here is what I did to convert your file to an
html file: |
17:52.36 |
starseeker |
mkdir doc/docbook/lessons/es |
17:53.14 |
starseeker |
cp mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.xml
doc/docbook/lessons/es/ |
17:53.52 |
starseeker |
cd doc/docbook/lessons/es |
17:53.53 |
jesica__ |
OS: debian |
17:54.22 |
*** join/#brlcad cosurgi
(n=cosurgi@atak.bl.pg.gda.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
17:54.29 |
starseeker |
ok |
17:54.49 |
starseeker |
once in doc/docbook/lessons/es with your file
in that directory, run this command to create html: |
17:56.02 |
starseeker |
XML_CATALOG_FILES=../../catalog.xml
/usr/bin/xsltproc -nonet -xinclude -o
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.html
../../resources/standard/xsl/xhtml-1_1/docbook.xsl
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.xml |
17:56.08 |
starseeker |
(one line) |
17:57.56 |
starseeker |
to create pdf file, first do this
line: |
17:57.57 |
starseeker |
XML_CATALOG_FILES=../../catalog.xml
/usr/bin/xsltproc -nonet -xinclude -o
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.fo
../../resources/standard/xsl/fo/docbook.xsl
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.xml |
17:58.02 |
starseeker |
then do this one: |
17:58.19 |
starseeker |
fop mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.fo -pdf
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.pdf |
17:58.23 |
``Erik |
('cept xsltproc might not be in /usr/bin/,
location should be set as a variable from configure) |
17:58.38 |
starseeker |
``Erik: I'm assuming she's doing it
manually |
17:58.51 |
starseeker |
so yes, wherever xsltproc is on your
system |
17:59.25 |
``Erik |
okie, figured that stuff'd go into a
Makefile.am awfully soon :) |
18:00.07 |
*** join/#brlcad dli
(n=dli@69.172.97.211) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
18:01.18 |
starseeker |
``Erik: will take a little time to get a feel
for the LANG variables and such - also, need to have per-lang
makefiles that are included at the top level |
18:02.03 |
starseeker |
jesica__: did that work for you? |
18:02.53 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, wait a moment please, ill try in a
few minutes |
18:32.57 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36839
10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Start splitting
up and including Makefile components for docbook |
20:07.56 |
*** join/#brlcad Nohla
(n=jesica@201.255.217.181) |
20:49.23 |
*** join/#brlcad Computer
(n=Computer@unaffiliated/computer) |
21:04.06 |
CIA-41 |
BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36840
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/Makefile.am: Added ${GCV_LIBS} to
librender, wasn't building on MAC 10.4 due to missing tcl
dependencies. |
21:26.10 |
*** join/#brlcad Don_
(n=Don@c-71-238-51-148.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
21:29.07 |
*** join/#brlcad jesica__
(n=jesica@201.255.217.181) |
21:48.54 |
*** join/#brlcad PrezKennedy
(i=Matthew@whitecalf.net) |
22:50.51 |
*** join/#brlcad jesica__
(n=jesica@201.255.217.181) |
22:51.40 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, are you there? |
23:03.39 |
starseeker |
yes |
23:03.47 |
starseeker |
what's up? |
23:04.07 |
jesica__ |
well, i just change my debian lenny for debian
sid |
23:04.18 |
jesica__ |
and installed xsltproc |
23:04.25 |
jesica__ |
i was reading the man |
23:04.41 |
jesica__ |
(i couldn do this with lenny :P) |
23:06.00 |
jesica__ |
(ah, ive sent the file by brlcad-devel
list) |
23:08.22 |
starseeker |
jesica__: excellent, thanks :-) |
23:09.03 |
starseeker |
is reading up on how to
localize docbook output for various languages |
23:10.44 |
jesica__ |
you showed me how to make the conversion from
html, but my file is a xml |
23:12.05 |
jesica__ |
mmm... no, i thing im confused |
23:12.34 |
starseeker |
I showed you how to do it from xml |
23:12.39 |
jesica__ |
guide me if you can |
23:12.46 |
starseeker |
ok |
23:13.15 |
starseeker |
first, did you check out the subversion copy
of BRL-CAD? |
23:13.30 |
jesica__ |
no |
23:13.36 |
starseeker |
ok, do that first |
23:13.42 |
starseeker |
~cadsvn |
23:13.43 |
ibot |
To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn
checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk
brlcad |
23:20.34 |
jesica__ |
done |
23:20.41 |
starseeker |
ok. |
23:21.08 |
starseeker |
now copy the latest copy of your xml file to
doc/docbook/lessons/es/ |
23:23.16 |
starseeker |
ok? |
23:24.50 |
jesica__ |
mmm no, svn check... bring me the hole source
code? i didnt understand what it did |
23:24.59 |
starseeker |
yes |
23:25.08 |
starseeker |
you have a brlcad directory? |
23:25.23 |
starseeker |
if so, do: |
23:25.32 |
starseeker |
cd brlcad/ |
23:25.44 |
starseeker |
ls |
23:25.51 |
starseeker |
you should see a doc directory |
23:26.42 |
jesica__ |
yes :) |
23:26.56 |
starseeker |
ok, now do cd doc/docbook/ |
23:27.04 |
starseeker |
you will see lessons directory |
23:27.28 |
starseeker |
then cd lessons/es |
23:27.33 |
jesica__ |
yes |
23:27.45 |
starseeker |
remove the xml document there and replace it
with your current version of the file |
23:27.50 |
jesica__ |
done |
23:27.58 |
starseeker |
now, do this: |
23:28.11 |
starseeker |
XML_CATALOG_FILES=../../catalog.xml
/usr/bin/xsltproc -nonet -xinclude -o
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.html
../../resources/standard/xsl/xhtml-1_1/docbook.xsl
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.xml |
23:28.38 |
starseeker |
that should generate an html file |
23:28.44 |
jesica__ |
stand on the same directory? or that doesnt
mather? |
23:28.55 |
starseeker |
in the same directory as the xml
file |
23:30.09 |
jesica__ |
done |
23:30.20 |
starseeker |
did you get an html file? |
23:30.30 |
jesica__ |
yes |
23:30.39 |
starseeker |
ok, open it :-) |
23:31.00 |
jesica__ |
ah? |
23:31.20 |
starseeker |
web browser |
23:31.20 |
jesica__ |
ah? |
23:31.32 |
starseeker |
firefox
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.html |
23:31.44 |
``Erik |
that html file is the end product |
23:32.50 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, so now with fop i can convers it
to pdf? |
23:33.01 |
starseeker |
ok, for pdf do this: |
23:33.15 |
starseeker |
XML_CATALOG_FILES=../../catalog.xml
/usr/bin/xsltproc -nonet -xinclude -o
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.fo
../../resources/standard/xsl/fo/docbook.xsl
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.xml |
23:33.29 |
starseeker |
then, this: |
23:33.37 |
starseeker |
fop mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.fo -pdf
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.pdf |
23:34.00 |
jesica__ |
to use fop i alwais have to give it a
.fo? |
23:34.12 |
starseeker |
that is how our build system works |
23:34.13 |
jesica__ |
cant i jump this step? |
23:34.18 |
jesica__ |
ok |
23:34.37 |
starseeker |
just save those commands in a script if you
want to re-run them a lot |
23:34.44 |
starseeker |
for editing work, I recommend html
output |
23:35.16 |
starseeker |
once I update our build system to be
multi-language, you will be able to use the build logic to do this
for you |
23:35.37 |
starseeker |
(working on that now, will probably be a
couple days) |
23:35.58 |
``Erik |
starseeker: examined the fbsd version for
generating the handbook? |
23:36.19 |
starseeker |
hmm? FreeBSD uses docbook too? |
23:36.28 |
``Erik |
docbook/jade, yes |
23:36.33 |
starseeker |
had looked at the firebird
manual, not FreeBSD |
23:37.03 |
starseeker |
we seem to be doing this much more
"automake-ish" than most projects |
23:37.06 |
jesica__ |
the images are not displayed :-/ |
23:37.10 |
starseeker |
jesica__: that's OK |
23:37.14 |
jesica__ |
in pdf |
23:37.26 |
jesica__ |
you think? :) |
23:37.40 |
starseeker |
if you need them, we need to do
this: |
23:37.49 |
starseeker |
cd ../../ |
23:38.00 |
starseeker |
(you should be in the doc/docbook
directory) |
23:38.13 |
jesica__ |
aha |
23:38.15 |
starseeker |
then, run this command: |
23:38.22 |
jesica__ |
aaah |
23:38.44 |
jesica__ |
becouse the imagen are in that
directory? |
23:39.01 |
starseeker |
XML_CATALOG_FILES=./catalog.xml
/usr/bin/xsltproc -nonet -xinclude -o
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.fo
./resources/standard/xsl/fo/docbook.xsl
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.xml |
23:39.13 |
starseeker |
yes, the xml file links to the
images |
23:39.44 |
starseeker |
there is a very specific hierarchy to the
docbook directories and the way images are linked - reasons are a
bit complex |
23:39.53 |
starseeker |
did you create new fo file? |
23:40.14 |
starseeker |
once you have, do again fop
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.fo -pdf
mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.pdf |
23:40.24 |
starseeker |
that pdf should have images |
23:40.31 |
jesica__ |
ok |
23:41.23 |
starseeker |
jesica__: to do parallel make (many files at
once) we controll all build logic from the doc/docbook
directory |
23:41.56 |
starseeker |
jesica__: did that work? |
23:41.59 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, you did this program? |
23:42.04 |
starseeker |
mostly |
23:42.09 |
starseeker |
the build logic anyway |
23:42.18 |
starseeker |
the docbook tools are by others (many
others) |
23:42.47 |
starseeker |
``Erik did the original source code build
logic, I am just doing doc/docbook |
23:44.34 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, maybe for that i only found
information of this program in sourceforge and in a log of brlcad
:) |
23:45.25 |
starseeker |
docbook building is a bit
specialized |
23:46.50 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, thank for helping, its a great
pleasure work with all you |
23:48.12 |
starseeker |
no problem - thanks for your work! |
23:48.20 |
starseeker |
what would you like to work on next? |
23:48.22 |
jesica__ |
i feel confortable in this chanel and glad to
do something usefull for your effort |
23:48.51 |
jesica__ |
now? i began the second file |
23:49.00 |
starseeker |
excellent :-) |
23:49.15 |
starseeker |
the same commands will work, just change the
file names |
23:49.21 |
``Erik |
doesn't think he's touched
the doc/ dir in over five years, don't blame him for that mess O.O
:D *duck* |
23:49.45 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, i understood enought to do it
again correctly :) |
23:52.12 |
jesica__ |
Ill do the following slower because I have to
study for the test i didnt doyesterday :P |
23:52.25 |
starseeker |
no rush :-) |
23:52.33 |
jesica__ |
but ill do it, i promise |
23:54.19 |
jesica__ |
I'll use ' since now, despite not being so
confortable |
23:54.29 |
starseeker |
``Erik: I'd argue it SHOWS that nobody had
really touched the doc directory in a few years
<snort> |
23:54.45 |
starseeker |
jesica__: take your time |
23:59.12 |
jesica__ |
starseeker, the following error happened when
fop runing |
23:59.15 |
*** join/#brlcad akafubu
(n=akafubu@unaffiliated/akafubu) |
23:59.29 |
jesica__ |
<PROTECTED> |
23:59.41 |
starseeker |
jesica__: that can be ignored, I see that for
english docs too |