| 00:01.12 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36906 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/ (6 files): Get rid of forward declarations |
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| 00:01.59 | starseeker | ``Erik: any idea why the X and X24 framebuffers are both present? |
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| 00:07.22 | starseeker | from what I can see, if_X24 supercedes if_X |
| 00:31.38 | ``Erik | has no idea |
| 00:33.03 | Nohla | hola :) |
| 00:40.18 | starseeker | hola :-) |
| 00:40.46 | starseeker | Nohla: ready to build spanish documentation with make? |
| 00:49.02 | Nohla | just if your patient is ready too :) |
| 00:49.13 | starseeker | Nohla: it's easy |
| 00:49.22 | starseeker | you have your svn checkout of brlcad? |
| 00:49.29 | Nohla | yes |
| 00:49.39 | starseeker | ok. cd into the top level |
| 00:49.45 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36907 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/ (8 files in 5 dirs): First man3 man page in docbook - add man3 to the system directory and make a new rule to generate .3 man pages. |
| 00:49.52 | starseeker | Nohla: then run svn update |
| 00:50.37 | Nohla | wow! easy... |
| 00:50.54 | starseeker | Nohla: are you seeing things downloading? |
| 00:51.18 | Nohla | starseeker no, I wanted to say: slower :) |
| 00:51.39 | starseeker | Nohla: you are in your brlcad directory? |
| 00:51.43 | Nohla | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.55 | starseeker | Nohla: that's a commit message |
| 00:52.01 | starseeker | Nohla: not an instruction |
| 00:52.14 | Nohla | I know |
| 00:52.18 | starseeker | If you see a message from CIA-41, it is announcing a change to the source code |
| 00:52.24 | Nohla | just I didn't undarstand |
| 00:52.38 | starseeker | Nohla: type "svn update" in your brlcad directory |
| 00:53.29 | Nohla | wait, I shouldn't do that |
| 00:53.37 | starseeker | why? |
| 00:53.59 | Nohla | look, the other day, by error, I changed the second tutorial but in /en dir |
| 00:54.19 | Nohla | The begining is in spanish there too |
| 00:54.37 | starseeker | Nohla: oh. OK. just in case, copy those files to your home directory |
| 00:56.31 | Nohla | starseeker can you explain me what I did with svn update? |
| 00:56.41 | Nohla | just to be shure :P |
| 00:56.54 | starseeker | you will be updating your source code tree to include the latest changes |
| 00:57.15 | starseeker | I have altered the build system to allow for building Spanish documentation - you need those changes |
| 00:58.49 | starseeker | Nohla: have you copied important files to your home directory? |
| 00:59.46 | Nohla | starseeker could you wait for me about 10 minutes? |
| 00:59.50 | starseeker | sure |
| 00:59.59 | Nohla | thanks :) |
| 01:03.30 | ``Erik | svn update shouldn't stomp local changes, svn revert is how you do that |
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| 02:02.10 | starseeker | ./autogen.sh |
| 02:02.10 | starseeker | ./configure --with-lang=ess |
| 02:02.10 | starseeker | cd doc/docbook |
| 02:02.11 | starseeker | make |
| 02:02.11 | starseeker | sorry - that's ./configure --with-lang=es |
| 02:02.11 | starseeker | (one s) |
| 02:02.11 | Nohla | and then |
| 02:02.21 | starseeker | Nohla: once that works, look at the file doc/docbook/lessons/es/Makefile.am and see where the xml file is listed |
| 02:02.41 | starseeker | you will have built lesson1 as html and pdf |
| 02:02.51 | starseeker | the next step is to add your new file |
| 02:03.09 | starseeker | for an example look at doc/docbook/lessons/en/Makefile.am |
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| 02:16.34 | Nohla | :) in the hipoteticall case it exists |
| 02:16.34 | starseeker | Nohla: right :-) |
| 02:16.34 | Nohla | starseeker thanks again |
| 02:16.34 | starseeker | Nohla: once you are comfortable with this method, it will be MUCH easier than running conversions manually |
| 02:16.34 | starseeker | de nada :-) |
| 02:16.34 | starseeker | thank you! |
| 02:16.34 | Nohla | what means "running conversions manually"? |
| 02:16.34 | Nohla | the expression |
| 02:16.34 | starseeker | Nohla: the long commands for creating html |
| 02:16.34 | starseeker | and pdf |
| 02:17.23 | starseeker | the way you made html and pdf the first time :-) |
| 02:17.23 | Nohla | XML_CATALOG_FILES= blablabla ? |
| 02:17.34 | starseeker | yes |
| 02:17.59 | Nohla | well, It was a more graphical way :) |
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| 04:03.39 | Nohla | The BRL-CAD build system is now prepared. To build here, run: |
| 04:03.39 | Nohla | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.39 | Nohla | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.39 | brlcad | that's a yes :) .. though the Makefile.am error is probably a mistake in something starseeker did recently |
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| 04:28.19 | starseeker | license even works |
| 04:28.19 | brlcad | actually, they sound like a tiny dependency -- if it gives full fb services, just as good as tk if not better |
| 04:28.19 | brlcad | if their code and interface is actually clean and useful, could be a good leverage, just depends |
| 04:28.19 | starseeker | nods |
| 04:28.19 | starseeker | hey ``Errrriikkk, more C++ code... :-P |
| 04:28.19 | brlcad | "sounds good" .. but it's easy to write something that sounds good |
| 04:28.19 | starseeker | nods |
| 04:28.19 | Nohla | uff tell that to pastebin :) |
| 04:28.19 | brlcad | could try writing an fb interface with that behind it |
| 04:28.19 | starseeker | apparently they're using it for some commercial screen capture app... |
| 04:28.19 | brlcad | oooooh, Nohla is it saying it's too much? |
| 04:28.19 | brlcad | config.log is super-long |
| 04:28.28 | brlcad | ftp it to brlcad.org/pub/incoming |
| 04:29.14 | Nohla | brlcad ? |
| 04:29.37 | Nohla | sorry if I was unpolite, that was not the intention |
| 04:30.05 | starseeker | Nohla: you're fine - he is suggesting to use an ftp client to send the file to ftp://brlcad.org/pub/incoming |
| 04:30.05 | Nohla | everithing is working ban with my notebook tonight |
| 04:30.20 | Nohla | s/ban/bad |
| 04:30.32 | starseeker | brlcad: Ah, ScreenJot: http://www.liquidthought.com/ |
| 04:30.45 | brlcad | er, just /incoming, not /pub/incoming |
| 04:31.11 | brlcad | ftp://brlcad.org/incoming |
| 04:31.28 | starseeker | don't think they explicitly say they use pxcore, but this context suggests it: http://www.liquidthought.com/blog/2009/07/pxcore-13-released.html |
| 04:31.43 | brlcad | yeah, I saw that |
| 04:32.43 | starseeker | will poke at it once he gets a better feel for libfb as it currently exists |
| 04:33.13 | brlcad | tk would still probably be easier given the code is 80% done already ;) |
| 04:33.25 | starseeker | nods - yes, that's the plan |
| 04:33.50 | starseeker | (once I can get it to do something without having mged crash on initialization when I enable it...) |
| 04:34.17 | brlcad | assuming it's not just because I left mged in a busted state dm-wise |
| 04:34.33 | starseeker | pxcore might give performance beyond Tk, if it matters, but performance is secondary to "Work without X on OSX" atm ;-) |
| 04:34.55 | starseeker | brlcad: I don't think so - at least, when I disable the tk framebuffer things seem OK |
| 04:35.12 | brlcad | ah, with the tk dm, sure |
| 04:35.16 | brlcad | I mean the X dm |
| 04:35.20 | starseeker | oh :-) |
| 04:36.07 | brlcad | working on that tonight/tomorrow |
| 04:36.46 | Nohla | brlcad sorry, log is too long |
| 04:36.55 | Nohla | do you need it yet? |
| 04:37.06 | brlcad | of course :) |
| 04:37.15 | brlcad | Nohla: it's not too long for ftp |
| 04:38.29 | brlcad | mozilla/firefox creates read-only connections by default -- use command-line: ftp brlcad.org |
| 04:38.32 | brlcad | cd incoming |
| 04:38.35 | brlcad | put config.log |
| 04:38.44 | brlcad | quit |
| 04:38.44 | brlcad | :) |
| 04:41.25 | Nohla | first it say only anonymous ftp are allowed, but after that ask me to login with user and pass |
| 04:42.08 | brlcad | never used ftp before I see..just put anything in for password, user is anonymous |
| 04:42.31 | brlcad | even nothing for password |
| 04:43.28 | Nohla | aaaah It's kidding me :) |
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| 04:56.47 | Nohla | just wait for me a moment |
| 04:56.47 | brlcad | waits patiently |
| 04:56.47 | juantelez | jaja |
| 04:56.47 | Nohla | juantelez sos un idiota |
| 04:56.47 | brlcad | jeje |
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| 05:15.40 | Nohla | brlcad can you see it? |
| 05:20.29 | Nohla | starseeker brlcad are you there? |
| 05:22.44 | starseeker | here |
| 05:22.51 | starseeker | I see it |
| 05:24.50 | starseeker | hmm - odd |
| 05:25.10 | starseeker | what's the last message you got from configure on the terminal before it exited? |
| 05:26.47 | Nohla | starseeker I've sent it by email too |
| 05:30.53 | brlcad | Nohla: yep! you got it |
| 05:30.58 | brlcad | what was the problem? |
| 05:31.22 | Nohla | brlcad where, by ftp? |
| 05:31.42 | Nohla | # /incoming/config.log?? |
| 05:32.16 | brlcad | by ftp |
| 05:32.26 | starseeker | apparently there is no Makefile in doc/docbook |
| 05:32.42 | brlcad | Nohla: what changed that it finally worked? |
| 05:32.45 | brlcad | (ftp) |
| 05:32.52 | starseeker | hrm... |
| 05:33.59 | Nohla | brlcad me? |
| 05:34.15 | brlcad | Nohla: yes, you :) |
| 05:34.51 | brlcad | Nohla: cuando hiciste el ftp las primera veces, no funciono' .. que cambio? |
| 05:35.13 | Nohla | instale gftp |
| 05:35.31 | Nohla | y me quit? el enojo :P |
| 05:35.35 | brlcad | heh, okay |
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| 05:47.20 | brlcad | ahh, interesting.. her configure failure is due to the recent change trying to get aquatk working better |
| 05:47.35 | brlcad | no longer just 'yes', it did the test for X11 and AquaTk.. and came up with nothing for her so instead of a compile-time failure, it fell through into the "use system tk" case and failed |
| 05:47.45 | brlcad | ahh, system tk case needs more logic now (in case it's a non-x11/non-tk build) |
| 05:48.52 | Nohla | brlcad are you talking with me? |
| 05:50.14 | Nohla | I'm fixing my friendship with juantelez yet :P |
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| 06:07.58 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36909 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/README: document what the various manual page sections actually mean |
| 06:08.09 | brlcad | Nohla: no, just commenting about your configure failure |
| 06:09.17 | Nohla | brlcad did you find the problem? |
| 06:10.07 | brlcad | yeah, the problem is you're missing some pieces that are expected in order to compile |
| 06:10.25 | brlcad | developer header files |
| 06:11.17 | Nohla | ... |
| 06:11.41 | brlcad | basically, what starseeker mentioned you should install -- xorg-dev, bison, and flex for starters |
| 06:11.47 | Nohla | too late to tray to guess |
| 06:12.09 | Nohla | I've done when he said that |
| 06:12.27 | brlcad | then you should be able to run ./configure again |
| 06:12.32 | brlcad | see if it succeeds |
| 06:12.48 | brlcad | rm *cache* |
| 06:12.58 | brlcad | (before configure) |
| 06:13.14 | Nohla | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.30 | brlcad | that removes a temporary cache file that configure generates |
| 06:14.20 | brlcad | it uses the cache file instead of retrying a test when it can |
| 06:15.07 | brlcad | since you installed new things, it's a good idea to delete the cache file and run configure cleanly |
| 06:16.02 | brlcad | alternative is to just run sh autogen.sh again (and it will delete the cache too) |
| 06:19.13 | Nohla | working as you expected |
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| 06:31.26 | Nohla | brlcad: wow, and working a lot |
| 06:33.05 | Nohla | well, leave it working, good night or whatever :) |
| 06:44.43 | brlcad | hasta luego! |
| 06:49.33 | Nohla | brlcad I'll let you working too |
| 06:49.34 | Nohla | make[2]: *** [fbserv] Error 1 |
| 06:49.35 | Nohla | make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src/fbserv' |
| 06:49.35 | Nohla | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 06:49.35 | Nohla | make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src' |
| 06:49.35 | Nohla | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 06:50.26 | Nohla | before: |
| 06:50.26 | Nohla | make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src/conv' |
| 06:50.27 | Nohla | make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src/conv' |
| 06:50.27 | Nohla | Making all in fbserv |
| 06:53.16 | brlcad | need what preceeded that |
| 06:53.25 | brlcad | before the Error 1 |
| 06:53.57 | Nohla | you won't let me sleep, no? :) |
| 06:54.21 | brlcad | heh, :) |
| 06:54.40 | brlcad | you can sleep, we can continue later today/tomorrow/whenever :) |
| 06:55.37 | Nohla | deps/walk_example.Tpo -c -o walk_example.o walk_example.c |
| 06:55.37 | Nohla | mv -f .deps/walk_example.Tpo .deps/walk_example.Po |
| 06:55.37 | Nohla | /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CC --silent --mode=link gcc -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -L/usr/local/lib -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -o walk_example walk_example.o ../../src/librt/librt.la |
| 06:55.37 | Nohla | make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src/conv' |
| 06:55.37 | Nohla | make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src/conv' |
| 06:55.39 | Nohla | Making all in fbserv |
| 06:55.41 | Nohla | make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src/fbserv' |
| 06:55.43 | Nohla | gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../include -I../../src/other/tcl/generic -I../../src/other/tcl/unix -I/usr/local/include -DBRLCADBUILD=1 -I../../include -I../../src/other/openNURBS -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -MT fbserv.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/fbserv.Tpo -c -o fbserv.o fbserv.c |
| 06:55.47 | Nohla | mv -f .deps/fbserv.Tpo .deps/fbserv.Po |
| 06:55.49 | Nohla | gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../include -I../../src/other/tcl/generic -I../../src/other/tcl/unix -I/usr/local/include -DBRLCADBUILD=1 -I../../include -I../../src/other/openNURBS -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -MT server.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/server.Tpo -c -o server.o server.c |
| 06:55.53 | Nohla | mv -f .deps/server.Tpo .deps/server.Po |
| 06:55.55 | Nohla | /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CC --silent --mode=link gcc -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -L/usr/local/lib -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -o fbserv fbserv.o server.o ../../src/libfb/libfb.la |
| 06:55.59 | Nohla | ../../src/libfb/.libs/libfb.so: undefined reference to `yIMG2SCR' |
| 06:56.03 | Nohla | ../../src/libfb/.libs/libfb.so: undefined reference to `xIMG2SCR' |
| 06:56.05 | Nohla | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 06:56.07 | Nohla | make[2]: *** [fbserv] Error 1 |
| 06:56.09 | Nohla | make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src/fbserv' |
| 06:56.11 | Nohla | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 06:56.13 | Nohla | make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/jesica/Desktop/brlcad/src' |
| 06:56.15 | Nohla | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 06:56.17 | Nohla | if it isn't enought, se continue another day |
| 06:56.21 | brlcad | huh, that looks like starseeker's doing :) |
| 06:56.23 | Nohla | s/se/we |
| 06:56.41 | Nohla | wake him up :) |
| 06:56.49 | brlcad | he apparently broke the compile earlier today :) |
| 06:57.05 | brlcad | that is enough |
| 06:57.35 | Nohla | well, good morning :( |
| 06:57.44 | Nohla | s/:(/:) |
| 06:57.53 | Nohla | o sea: :) |
| 06:58.10 | brlcad | that fixes it |
| 06:58.15 | Nohla | gracias de nuevo, contribu?s a mi buen humor |
| 06:58.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36910 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_X.c: the defines must come before the usages or there will be undefined references in the resultant library. |
| 06:58.20 | brlcad | :) |
| 06:58.28 | brlcad | svn up src/libfb |
| 06:58.33 | brlcad | make |
| 06:59.56 | brlcad | Nohla: gracias por vos paciencia ;) |
| 07:00.25 | Nohla | mmm, me falt? la paciencia por un momento hoy, por eso precis? mas de la de ustedes :) |
| 07:02.39 | brlcad | si no entendiste, el CIA-38 "commit" alli se arreglo' el compile, ya va continuar mas |
| 07:03.25 | brlcad | has tenido mucha paciencia |
| 07:03.34 | brlcad | goes both ways, thanks |
| 07:12.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36911 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: |
| 07:12.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: refactor the Tk compilation testing to allow Tk to auto-disable if there isn't a |
| 07:12.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: suitable X11/AquaTk or other subsystem available to build tk ourselves and there |
| 07:12.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: isn't a suitable system library that seems to work right. this should let Tk be |
| 07:12.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: optional at least during configure time (compile may still have some |
| 07:12.22 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: assumptions) and will make it blather a strong message with delay if MGED's Tk |
| 07:12.24 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: GUI is getting turned off. |
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| 12:57.22 | starseeker | brlcad: ooops, sorry about that |
| 12:59.49 | starseeker | musta had some stale files hanging around |
| 13:04.28 | starseeker | really, all Nohla needed for translation was to build doc/docbook... |
| 13:04.28 | starseeker | ah well, good experience |
| 13:04.51 | louipc | docbook toolchain not playing nice? |
| 13:05.06 | starseeker | louipc: actually that's behaving reasonably well |
| 13:05.34 | starseeker | our Spanish translater is being tutored in setting up a svn BRL-CAD build |
| 13:06.21 | starseeker | lot to take in from a cold standing start, and some stuff I've been doing elsewhere didn't build out of box on her setup (my fault) |
| 13:06.30 | louipc | cool |
| 13:07.09 | starseeker | the minimum for what she is doing is to be able to run make in doc/docbook, but of course it's better for her to have the full setup |
| 13:07.21 | louipc | I need to get dockbook sgml working properly on my system |
| 13:07.23 | starseeker | particularly if any screenshots need to be localized |
| 13:07.38 | starseeker | actually we're using xml, not sgml :-) |
| 13:07.55 | louipc | I know, but there's some other projects that use sgml |
| 13:08.02 | starseeker | ah, true |
| 13:08.51 | starseeker | 'nother few years, I'm hoping a solid Docbook toolchain will be standard on most Linux distros, but it doesn't quite seem to be there yet |
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| 13:09.13 | louipc | yeah |
| 13:09.20 | louipc | it seems too fragmented |
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| 14:29.12 | starseeker | hmm: http://blog.ostp.gov/2009/12/09/ostp-to-launch-public-forum-on-how-best-to-make-federally-funded-research-available-for-free/ |
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| 15:46.25 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r36912 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librtserver/rtserver.c: Added region id and air code to the output buffer |
| 15:53.24 | brlcad | http://johnmacphail.com/2009/12/send-in-the-autocad-clone/ |
| 15:56.31 | starseeker | brlcad: heh, cool |
| 15:56.48 | starseeker | not sure I'd agree "very little" has happened with BRL-CAD though ;-) |
| 16:00.29 | brlcad | quite true |
| 16:00.49 | brlcad | I don't think he means to brl-cad directly, more the commmunity adopting it |
| 16:01.34 | louipc | depends on your perspective too |
| 16:01.59 | louipc | there's tons of development, but little that would seem to attract most CAD users |
| 16:03.08 | brlcad | right |
| 16:03.18 | louipc | or what has been developed isn't pushed to the forefront |
| 16:03.20 | brlcad | and that's what I'd call the "expectation chasm" |
| 16:03.27 | louipc | g3d, archer |
| 16:04.13 | brlcad | there's a disjoint understanding between wanting a particular feature and realizing what has to happen within the system to make that happen, the level of effort and fundamental capabilities that are required |
| 16:05.15 | brlcad | and not just on the order of "oh that should take a few months" and being wrong a few months .. it's features that generally take several years of effort, taken for granted because of the magnitude of effort that goes into the big commercial systems |
| 16:06.45 | brlcad | not to mention not having a solid understanding (pun intended) on the differences between drafting features, boundary representations, CADD vs CAD, solid modeling, explicit vs implicit representations, etc |
| 16:07.13 | brlcad | they just want a button that generates their hidden line annotated drafting diagrams in pdf format |
| 16:07.54 | brlcad | with input coming from a myrid of formats and modeling approaches with various representation types |
| 16:16.03 | starseeker | which hopefully will be what FreeCAD will be good for until we get there |
| 16:18.52 | brlcad | nah, I still think we'll get there first |
| 16:19.06 | brlcad | it's not just raw output of a diagram, it's the whole workflow |
| 16:19.22 | brlcad | it has to be a system that will read their format (whatever it is) faithfully |
| 16:19.37 | brlcad | it has to represent it fully, process it and repair their mistakes automatically |
| 16:20.15 | brlcad | it has to often anticipate what the modeler wants through conventions made pervasive by other systems |
| 16:20.50 | brlcad | it has to be even easier to use than what they already know because they don't want to invest the time and effort to learn something different |
| 16:21.01 | brlcad | at least those are some of the expectations |
| 16:21.18 | brlcad | freecad is way farther from most of that than we are |
| 16:24.01 | starseeker | nods |
| 16:24.54 | starseeker | bemusedly dreams of the day BRL-CAD will be easier to use than other CAD systems ;-) |
| 16:25.41 | starseeker | although I suppose the lack of a $5000+ cover fee counts for a lot of usability |
| 16:26.29 | louipc | 5k is the upgrade fee |
| 16:27.15 | louipc | well... that's for like a 3rd tier CAD/CAM system |
| 16:28.03 | starseeker | erm... ow... |
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| 19:05.52 | starseeker | oh |
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| 19:49.14 | starseeker | hmm, that's worth noting - Tk 8.6 is using Cocoa, not carbon |
| 19:49.30 | starseeker | should make for some entertaining testing... |
| 19:51.35 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36916 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Switch some WITH_X11 toggles to WITH_TK toggles |
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| 23:29.58 | starseeker | makes a note to figure out why png icons suck in Aqua... |
| 23:47.41 | ``Erik | icons in what sense, and suck how? |
| 23:49.47 | starseeker | archer's icon toolbar, and the transparency rendering is messed up |
| 23:49.55 | starseeker | http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/archer_aquatk_aquatheme.png |
| 23:49.55 | ``Erik | ah *shrug* |
| 23:50.10 | starseeker | tries an experiment... if this works Bob will hate me... |
| 23:55.17 | ``Erik | tkimg? heh |
| 23:58.11 | starseeker | not sure if we want to do that... but worth a try to see if it fixes something |
