IRC log for #brlcad on 20091223

00:00.36 Nohla starseeker because I remind the first error that said something similar
00:01.08 Nohla first line too long, more than 80, I can't remember exactly
00:01.42 Nohla I can check that before to send it
00:03.10 Nohla with "radio" refers to the angle of view of design?
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00:19.11 brlcad radio is a type of button
00:20.36 Nohla ? didn't understand
00:20.48 Nohla remember I've never used the program, sorry
00:21.09 brlcad it depends what it's talking about
00:21.30 brlcad could be an actual radio (listening device) that is to be modeled
00:21.45 brlcad or could be referring to a "radio button" .. which are buttons that toggle
00:22.14 brlcad boto'n de opcio'n
00:22.23 brlcad http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bot?n_de_opci?n
00:29.34 ``Erik prods ogre some O.o
00:31.53 brlcad woot
00:40.51 ``Erik I like how half the samples just crash
00:42.08 brlcad huh, last I tried them, they all worked
00:42.17 brlcad you running from binary or built?
00:42.37 ``Erik binary sdk, then compiled the sample set
00:45.37 brlcad huh
00:47.16 ``Erik cmake flips out and goes into a loop when I try to make the subversion checkout, so I grabbed the 1.4.9 dmg and opened the xcode project in the Samples/ dir
00:48.18 ``Erik (okra/buclet might make ogre more fun than panda3d)
00:53.25 ``Erik a C wrapper for ogre, heh :/ dang c++
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04:54.14 starseeker heh - cool http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/12/reactors-gallery/all/1
04:54.43 starseeker is surprised the publishers were sometimes lax about saving something like that - those suckers must have taken a LOT of work
04:55.28 starseeker be a cool style of drawing to attempt recreating with CAD 3d exports - reminds me of a siggraph paper from this year in fact
04:57.02 starseeker bet Tufte would love those - talk about information density...
04:57.22 starseeker makes more room in his "useless cool crap" section on the terabyte drive...
05:00.05 brlcad starseeker: so can the dms be fully toggled now?
05:11.06 starseeker tests on gentoo again
05:26.21 starseeker heh... back on topic... sorry
05:42.09 talcite does anyone know whether jama is version 1.2.5 or 1.25?
05:42.43 talcite Their project development practices are really killing me =/. No previous versions available, no tracker, just a zip file. Not even a readme in the zip
05:45.05 talcite oh wait, found it... In some obscure corner of the website =/
05:45.18 talcite 1.2.5 incase you were wondering
06:15.00 starseeker blinks
06:15.13 starseeker $ mged
06:15.13 starseeker X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Serial number of failed request: 31 Current serial number in output stream: 32
06:20.24 starseeker hmm...
06:20.35 starseeker mged -c and attaching X fails the same way
06:20.39 starseeker ogl succeeds
06:21.03 starseeker rtgl fails with gedp->ged_gvp null at dm-rtgl.c:1597
06:22.42 starseeker hmm - even more interesting - if I first bring up ogl and THEN rtgl using an additional attach command, rtgl comes up
06:23.29 starseeker and closing rtgl kills ogl too - looks like killing rtgl nukes the ogl context
06:23.52 starseeker brlcad: so to answer your question from earlier, looks like the answer is still no :-(
06:24.53 starseeker wonder if I did anything stupid...
06:24.58 starseeker svn status says...
06:25.21 starseeker nope
06:25.42 starseeker must sleep on this...
06:30.13 talcite there. package for JAMA is created. TNT will be done when I get back to my desktop.
06:34.25 talcite How are things going with the STEP and Utah upstream?
06:35.26 brlcad starseeker: that failure is probably my libdm mods from last week
06:35.55 brlcad talcite: it's in the queue, I did mention it'd take at least a week or two ;)
06:36.23 talcite brlcad: haha yes, that's true.
06:37.05 talcite did we end up saying we would strip the tkhtml3 code out and release as a project? I can't remember for that one specifically
06:42.37 brlcad I don't recall that exactly being said
06:43.08 brlcad I think the idea is to still to try and work with the upstream authors to get some activity going, access granted, or fork it off
06:43.22 brlcad in that order of priority
06:49.01 talcite hmm alright. I'll get in touch with the authors
06:49.51 *** part/#brlcad Nohla (n=jesica@168.226.178.2)
07:13.39 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36994 10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: merge from upstream to get commit 3dcfb77ebb2df9ac50fe7c33232b9e2b38720a92 (spelling fixes) to match the 2009.12.23 release.
07:16.09 brlcad fg
07:27.45 talcite brlcad: vim user eh? Do you recall ever doing anything to remove the lemon parser from tkHtml?
07:28.20 talcite it's not in our source tree, yet it's being compiled from the native tkhtml3 package
07:31.26 talcite brlcad: also, just got a reply from the tkhtml3 dev
07:31.41 talcite "It is not actively maintained as far as I know. Unfortunately. -Dan."
07:32.23 talcite can we make sure tkhtml3 is included in the list of projects to fork/claim ownership of please?
07:32.41 talcite alright. That's it for me tonight. Long day tomorrow. Night all
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12:08.59 sunnylee hi
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14:02.07 ``Erik has been seeing the BadAlloc for a while now, couple weeks at least O.o
14:02.42 ``Erik happens both locally on my mac and when I try to run it on BSD and use remote X
14:47.01 brlcad still probably my doing
14:47.11 brlcad might have been two weeks ago
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15:59.05 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36995 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/ (Makefile.am license.txt):
15:59.05 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: include the more legally explicit language shown on
15:59.06 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: http://opennurbs.org/docs.htm where rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
15:59.06 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: distribute, sublicense, and sell are clearly granted. the language in the
15:59.06 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: readme.txt has the same intention, but not nearly as well-stated with loose
15:59.08 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: language, so include the website text here verbatim alongside the sources to
15:59.10 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: avoid confusion and doubt.
16:03.26 brlcad hm!
16:03.31 brlcad The ON_BrepLoop::m_type member records the type of boundary (inner, outer, etc.). A ON_BrepFace has exactly one outer loop and it is the first loop referenced in the ON_BrepFace::m_li[] array. The inner loops all define "holes" in the ON_BrepFace. All of the inner holes lie inside of the outer loop. A ON_BrepFace is always path connected. In particular, inner loops are not "nested".
16:03.43 brlcad needed that statement a couple months ago
16:30.23 starseeker brlcad: oh, sorry :-) I think Keith and I had figured it out, but we hadn't documented it anywhere (yet)
16:31.29 starseeker wonders if we should suck in any available opennurbs docs off the wiki to have in the repository...
16:50.01 brlcad starseeker: that was before it was figured out
16:51.18 brlcad keith and I were talking about it as well, in particular whether nested loops were possible, which wasn't known at the time
16:51.54 brlcad no need to import their wiki docs
17:22.44 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36996 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_line.cpp: apply a bug fix reported by Peter Salzmann (Aug 2009) where calculating the minimum distance to a line was getting calculated wrong. ahh the beauty of open source eyes catching a one-character bug.
17:54.43 brlcad posted to the opennurbs forum about indianlarry's relative tolerancing mod to ON_Brep::IsValidLoop()
19:05.56 starseeker hops on the opennurbs forum
19:06.40 starseeker rolls up his sleeves - time to sort through our diffs to the vanilla opennurbs tarball and identify stuff we aren't using anymore
19:09.18 starseeker do that before we drift any further away, since we're accumulating changes we want to maintain going forward
19:17.43 starseeker gets newest tarball and raises eyerows - date stamps are Sept 24th
19:18.08 starseeker version 200909255 - opennurbs V5 first release
19:18.12 starseeker hrm
19:18.58 indianlarry let's start over ;^)
19:20.34 starseeker hehe
19:20.59 starseeker will merge in changes to this version and give it a try
19:21.21 starseeker might as well
19:34.52 starseeker hmm. Hadn't notice this before. We've set openNURBS to hardcoded inclusion of ../zlib/zlib.h
19:35.27 starseeker that means it won't use a system zlib even if our configure tells it to...
19:36.11 ``Erik or it'll compile with the included and link against the system and ya'd better hope the API didn't change
19:37.14 starseeker right
19:37.37 starseeker we shouldn't do that - we have zlib.h includes in other code and aren't hardcoding that...
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19:46.11 starseeker yeah, NumIntersectionsWith is used only in code that is called in commented out code... if that needs to come back should probably be somewhere other than src/other/openNurbs...
19:51.02 brlcad starseeker: that just means it'l use that header .. fortunately, zlib hasn't changed incompatibly in probably a decade
19:51.19 starseeker brlcad: ok, so not a big deal?
19:51.23 brlcad not really
19:51.33 brlcad didn't see that v5 was posted, cool
19:51.40 starseeker was all set to figure out the right compile flags to add to Makefile.am...
19:51.46 brlcad go for it
19:51.58 starseeker yeah, caught me by surprise too - was just downloading to get a vanilla tarball
19:52.17 brlcad comes up with a pie chart breakdown he's happy with
19:52.29 starseeker noticed a couple default: conditions have been added that we had in our code :-)
19:52.47 starseeker looks like the sgi and sun compiler stuff didn't make the cut
19:53.13 starseeker brlcad: ah, the fun and glory of pie chart making :-)
20:00.36 brlcad yeah, this is working out nicely
20:00.41 brlcad the power of eights!
20:05.23 ``Erik eight is great?
20:16.58 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36997 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/Makefile.am: start stubbing in adrt build
20:17.12 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36998 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/libbu/adrt.vcproj: start stubbing in adrt build
20:17.28 ``Erik dangit
20:17.42 ``Erik eh? O.o odddd
20:19.04 starseeker brlcad: what was it about the z_ prefix in opennurbs_zlib that prevented system zlib use - are the z_prefixed functions not defined?
20:20.10 starseeker oh, I see
20:20.16 starseeker reads svn logs...
20:21.45 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36999 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/adrt/ (. adrt.vcproj): start stubbing in adrt build
20:22.19 ``Erik <PROTECTED>
20:22.30 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37000 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/libbu/adrt.vcproj: start stubbing in adrt build
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20:35.36 starseeker oh, oops - I was reading the diff backwards - we actually do the zlib system call - it's opennurbs that doesnt :-P
20:35.40 starseeker goodie :-)
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20:47.46 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37001 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/load.c: type hacketry to quell warning
20:47.57 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37002 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (libtie/tie_struct.h load.h): remove unnecessary (?) include
20:53.38 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37003 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/adrt/adrt.vcproj: add include dir's
20:55.11 ``Erik and now I flee and let bob unbreak things O:-) mwahahaha
20:55.57 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37004 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/librt/librt.vcproj: add metaball tesselator file
21:04.37 starseeker heh - newest opennurbs has the DistanceTo(A) fix :-)
21:04.48 brlcad yeah, I figured it would
21:05.07 starseeker OK, let's stick this baby in for a compile test...
21:05.31 brlcad the discussion was pre v5 posting, makes sense
22:00.30 starseeker ok, successful nurbs raytrace using v5
22:01.00 starseeker annnnd confirmation of X11 issues on Mac, too
22:01.12 starseeker hooks gdb up to see what bus errored
22:01.48 starseeker strncmp - wha??
22:01.59 starseeker Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)
22:02.46 starseeker oh, must be related to the BadAlloc
22:03.00 starseeker anyhoo, time for an opennurbs checkin :-)
22:21.50 starseeker hmm, definitely some new files
22:31.06 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37005 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/ (243 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:31.06 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: Update to version 200909255 - opennurbs V5 first release. Have attempted to
22:31.06 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: merge in all related fixes from previous BRL-CAD openNURBS version, but this
22:31.07 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: merge deliberately removes special purpose code used in earlier attemps at NURBS
22:31.08 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: raytracing. Some of this code is still used and will reappear in
22:31.10 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: opennurbs_ext.cpp and opennurbs_ext.h - ideally all changes now present in
22:31.12 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: src/other/openNURBS will be related to compiler specific issues, using external
22:32.51 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37006 10/brlcad/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
22:32.51 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: Move some code that had been added to openNURBS into opennurbs_ext.cpp and
22:32.51 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: opennurbs_ext.h. Also, turn off old (now unused) function calls to function
22:32.51 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: calls previously defined as additions inside src/other/openNURBS but are not
22:32.51 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: part of the current raytracing routines.
22:34.20 starseeker ponders if that is worth a NEWS item...
22:35.31 starseeker runs distcheck
22:56.04 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37007 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/Makefile.am: Er, oops - update EXTRA_DIST with files that have been removed.
23:13.51 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37008 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_bezier.cpp: Whoops - yeah this fix didn't seem to apply to this version, so don't tack in float.h
23:23.52 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37009 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_memory.c: looks like the fix from r36512 still applies
23:41.45 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37010 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/ (BRL-CAD_changes.txt Makefile.am):
23:41.45 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: Add a file describing what changes have been made from vanilla openNURBS and why
23:41.45 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: - intent is to make the merger of the next release (whenever that happens)
23:41.45 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: easier. Start from this revision and the contents of this file - will need to
23:41.46 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: evaluate all the changes documented here in any new version to see if they a) no
23:41.48 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: longer apply b) have been incorporated or c) are no longer needed. Then start
23:41.50 CIA-38 BRL-CAD: from this revision and evaluate any further revisions.
23:42.41 starseeker distcheck on r37077 passes
23:42.48 starseeker goes to grab supper

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