| 00:00.11 | brlcad | there's debug code in nmg that supposedly will animate the boolean evaluation as it proceeds... |
| 00:01.14 | brlcad | i'd seen a mid-90's video of it in action, but didn't realize it wasn't a temp hack |
| 00:01.32 | brlcad | huh |
| 00:01.40 | brlcad | something to poke at later |
| 00:02.11 | brlcad | rt_g.NMG_debug => DEBUG_PL_ANIM flag |
| 00:30.57 | ``Erik | O.o |
| 02:22.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37084 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_fcut.c: fix a bug in nmg_insert_vu_if_on_edge() where the new edgeuse wasn't getting set/returned to the caller. additionally quellage cleanup for exact floating point comparisons and unused params |
| 02:27.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37085 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (14 files in 8 dirs): major quellage, dead code elimination, unused params/vars, exact floating point comparisons. |
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| 03:24.04 | Ralith | ``Erik: [considering] building a marching cubes tesselator? |
| 03:45.20 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37086 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/ (nmg_ck.c nmg_fuse.c nmg_mod.c): |
| 03:45.20 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: remove nmg_eu_radial_check() since it was commented out and the uncommented |
| 03:45.20 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: version had not easily resolvable constness problems (it needed a non-const copy |
| 03:45.20 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: of it's edgeuse to pass to nmg_radial_build_list() yet that list then becomes |
| 03:45.20 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: disassociated with its eu if it is copied). also a few exact floating point |
| 03:45.23 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: comparisons changed. |
| 03:50.49 | ``Erik | ralith: funded and working on it. |
| 03:53.26 | Ralith | awesome! |
| 03:53.57 | Ralith | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.11 | Ralith | proportional to grid size, of course |
| 04:05.48 | ``Erik | yes, very grid sized impacted |
| 04:06.18 | ``Erik | exploratory experiments indicate taking up to a millenia for a vehicle sized object at bn tolerance |
| 04:08.08 | ``Erik | aaaanyways, it's gonna work in metaballs as a primitive tesselator, first... so if you're seriously interested, watch there :) |
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| 04:43.54 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 0367.232.178.197 07http://brlcad.org * r2057 10/wiki/MGED_CMD_loadtk: |
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| 07:12.25 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37087 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/ (nmg_info.c nmg_inter.c): more quelling. marking unused params, fixing integer conversion types, unreachable code, shadowing, and exact floating point comparisons. |
| 07:21.20 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37088 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_manif.c: it's unsigned, can't be negative |
| 07:21.42 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37089 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_inter.c: stray quote and wrong dist fixed |
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| 09:32.30 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37090 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_misc.c: a bit more complicated quellification. lots of mixed shadowing going on, but no more. also exact floating point compares. mark unused params. |
| 09:51.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37091 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_misc.c: |
| 09:51.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: getting a handle on this one took some unexpected concentration. reworked the |
| 09:51.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: logic slightly to avoid the goto jump that was being used to restart the edge |
| 09:51.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: testing. it's actually simple enough to let it fall through if we just make |
| 09:51.33 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: sure we let it keep track of the edge table correctly (removing our edge before |
| 09:51.35 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: testing verts, not after). add comments as to what's going on. |
| 10:09.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2059 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: |
| 10:15.02 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2060 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* ellg */ |
| 10:18.27 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2061 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* Ellipsoids */ |
| 10:27.40 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2062 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* Other */ |
| 10:29.03 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37092 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_pt_fu.c: another goto rewrite, this one a bit simpler. plus a few floating point comparison tests. |
| 10:29.06 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2063 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* pipe */ |
| 10:37.20 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2064 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* Other solids */ |
| 10:39.54 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2065 10/wiki/Talk:Main_Page: New section: [[Talk:Main Page#BRL-CAD Primitives|BRL-CAD Primitives]] |
| 10:41.00 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2066 10/wiki/User:Ssd: New page: I'm just a brl-cad user with a lot of mediawiki experience. Projects I'm currently working on: * [[:Category:MGED]] * [[BRL-CAD Primitives]] |
| 10:42.36 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2067 10/wiki/Talk:Main_Page: /* BRL-CAD Primitives */ |
| 10:43.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2068 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* Sketch */ |
| 10:45.09 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2069 10/wiki/MGED_CMD_make: /* Description */ |
| 10:47.03 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2070 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* grip */ |
| 10:48.41 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37093 10/brlcad/trunk/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:48.41 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: and with this WHOOOSH.. the remainder of nmg is quellified. quieted sign |
| 10:48.41 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: warnings, unused params, shadow vars, and floating point comparisons (which now |
| 10:48.41 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: test via computation tolerance). go ahead and change some of the signatures for |
| 10:48.41 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: funcs that had unused params that provided little stubbed benefit. |
| 10:50.48 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2071 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* metaball */ |
| 10:52.42 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2072 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: |
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| 14:17.23 | ``Erik | stupid snow |
| 14:25.00 | brlcad | heh |
| 14:36.46 | ``Erik | no plow here and the snow is up on the rims of the cars outside |
| 14:36.55 | ``Erik | so'z I'm immobilized |
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| 16:39.02 | brlcad | starting to melt here, I think I can make it about now |
| 16:39.25 | brlcad | is happy that more than half of librt is clean now |
| 16:40.26 | brlcad | those nmg changes should be interesting.. either made things a little better or a little worse, but either way they're now more well-defined :) |
| 16:40.46 | brlcad | few places I was pretty sure I saw bugs, but needed more careful attention .. |
| 16:41.03 | brlcad | we really could probably hammer down that whole api and make it work without too much effort |
| 16:41.11 | brlcad | via test driven development |
| 16:41.40 | brlcad | that api already breaks things down into neatly isolated routines that generally are written to perform one function |
| 16:44.02 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2073 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* dsp */ |
| 16:46.55 | ``Erik | <-- lives up in hills, it's a good 5 degrees cooler here than work :/ damn weird, driing out on ice, then driving in water for 95 % of the trip |
| 16:48.13 | ``Erik | bobby and daytona have trucks, I imagine starseeker will start seein some "work from home" days soon |
| 16:50.13 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2074 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* half */ |
| 16:50.24 | brlcad | go go gadget ssd |
| 16:55.01 | ``Erik | heh |
| 16:57.00 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2075 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* tgc */ |
| 16:59.37 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2076 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* trc */ |
| 17:00.05 | starseeker | thought it was supposed to be rain, not snow... |
| 17:00.10 | starseeker | grumble... |
| 17:00.25 | ``Erik | yeh |
| 17:00.54 | ``Erik | hey, tkhtml expecting tclsh instead of tclsh85... is there a clean solution? |
| 17:01.08 | starseeker | not sure |
| 17:01.20 | ``Erik | hm |
| 17:01.38 | ``Erik | a 'virgin' bsd system freaks out on that |
| 17:01.40 | starseeker | since we're going to be maintaining tkhtml3, we could always have its configure script look for tclsh85 if tclsh isn't found |
| 17:01.51 | ``Erik | 84 85 86... or take a parameter |
| 17:02.11 | starseeker | TEA really needs to be made to play with autotools |
| 17:02.22 | starseeker | we need a configure.ac/Makefile.am solution |
| 17:02.38 | starseeker | once I get back I'll take a look at the work apache did along those lines |
| 17:02.46 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2077 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* nmg */ |
| 17:03.09 | starseeker | if I get something actually clean/useful put together, I'll email the TEA folks and see what there take on things is... |
| 17:03.19 | brlcad | starseeker: ssd had a question about all the primitives (see /wiki/Talk:Main_Page) |
| 17:03.29 | brlcad | didn't you have something started there too? |
| 17:05.05 | starseeker | I did, but it looks like he's ahead of me |
| 17:05.26 | starseeker | except probably for the categorization of primitives |
| 17:05.54 | starseeker | http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/geometric_primitives.txt |
| 17:07.57 | brlcad | ah, good stuff -- you should share that with him |
| 17:08.05 | brlcad | he's all about categorization |
| 17:08.39 | brlcad | couple of his prims aren't prims, but input methods |
| 17:08.45 | brlcad | like 'box' |
| 17:09.00 | starseeker | nods |
| 17:09.14 | brlcad | and a few partially implemented ones missing |
| 17:09.17 | starseeker | doing the password reset thing for my website account |
| 17:10.01 | starseeker | maybe... |
| 17:10.07 | starseeker | hello email... |
| 17:12.09 | starseeker | is impressed - he actually got the ars primitive to do something |
| 17:13.22 | brlcad | I did that one |
| 17:13.58 | starseeker | ah :-) |
| 17:14.00 | ``Erik | heh |
| 17:14.03 | starseeker | is still impressed |
| 17:14.15 | starseeker | that ANYONE got the ars primitive to do something :-P |
| 17:15.04 | brlcad | it's a pretty simple waterline primitive |
| 17:15.06 | brlcad | just not "recently" documented |
| 17:15.07 | ``Erik | ponders trying to develop a quip regarding brlcad's ars... decides not to |
| 17:15.50 | brlcad | it's one of those goodies in the rel 4 docs that should be posted up on the set |
| 17:16.24 | ``Erik | rt_bot_tess really does look like the best example :/ |
| 17:16.40 | ``Erik | damn that daytona for being smarter than all of us :/ |
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| 17:23.44 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 0396.234.232.166 07http://brlcad.org * r2078 10/wiki/Talk:Main_Page: Add note about geometric primitives categorization |
| 17:25.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2079 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* dsp */ |
| 17:33.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Starseeker 07http://brlcad.org * r2080 10/wiki/Talk:Main_Page: note there are still a couple "work in progress" primitives uncategorized |
| 17:34.55 | starseeker | hunts lunch |
| 17:40.39 | ``Erik | <-- did spaghetti noodles and egg with apple sauce O.o |
| 17:41.26 | brlcad | you put apple sauce on spaghetti? nasty. |
| 17:41.53 | brlcad | freak |
| 17:45.08 | ``Erik | heh |
| 17:45.22 | ``Erik | it's not like italian spaghetti, it's very german :D eggs fried with butter, then egg scrambled into them, covered with apple sauce... |
| 17:45.25 | ``Erik | it's good |
| 17:45.54 | ``Erik | er, spaghetti noodles fried with butter |
| 17:46.17 | ``Erik | when ya eat it, you cut it and scoop witht eh fork instead of swirling |
| 17:46.45 | ``Erik | you put shrimp or white fish in lemon juice? freak. |
| 17:48.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2081 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* ebm */ |
| 17:48.21 | brlcad | do you salt the apple sauce? |
| 17:48.44 | brlcad | because that just sounds nasty if it's sweet |
| 17:48.57 | brlcad | seafood in lemon juice is salted :) |
| 17:50.47 | ``Erik | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.03 | ``Erik | the apple suace is there to add contrast, as a topping |
| 17:51.22 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2082 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* vol */ |
| 17:51.54 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2083 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* part */ |
| 17:53.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2084 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* Other */ |
| 17:53.54 | ``Erik | (and quite a bit of german cuisine is "ew gross" until you try it) |
| 17:55.42 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2085 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* ebm */ |
| 18:08.06 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2086 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* bot */ |
| 18:41.19 | brlcad | would rather code his way into the new year but is going to get sucked into festivities |
| 18:45.36 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37094 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/part/part.c: mas quellage. usual suspects. |
| 19:05.01 | ``Erik | heh |
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| 21:18.04 | starseeker | ./.libs/librt.so: undefined reference to `RT_CK_HITP' |
| 21:18.06 | starseeker | hrm |
| 21:18.52 | starseeker | greps... |
| 21:27.55 | starseeker | ah, sketch.c |
| 21:28.28 | starseeker | is RT_CK_HITP something someone forgot to check in or does that need to go bybye? |
| 21:54.41 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2089 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* box */ |
| 22:01.12 | starseeker | ooo |
| 22:01.23 | starseeker | discovers http://common-lisp.net/~loliveira/ediware/ and updates his lisp updating script |
| 22:01.27 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2090 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* extrude */ |
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| 22:09.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2092 10/wiki/Talk:Main_Page: /* BRL-CAD Primitives */ |
| 22:10.42 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2093 10/wiki/Talk:Main_Page: /* BRL-CAD Primitives */ |
| 22:12.49 | Nohla | holas |
| 22:13.14 | Nohla | congratulations for the summer of code!!! |
| 22:13.53 | Nohla | brlcad: this summer seems to be warmer |
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| 22:19.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2094 10/wiki/Talk:BRL-CAD_Primitives: New page: Other sources for information: * http://brlcad.org/wiki/A_Survey_of_Implicit_Constraints_in_Primitives * http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/geometric_primitives.txt * scattered through all brl-c... |
| 22:22.33 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2095 10/wiki/Talk:BRL-CAD_Primitives: |
| 22:23.17 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2096 10/wiki/Talk:BRL-CAD_Primitives: |
| 22:28.54 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2097 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* Other solids */ add 2d derived category |
| 22:29.55 | ``Erik | heh, (incl edi) |
| 22:31.33 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2098 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* dsp */ |
| 22:31.46 | starseeker | ooo, cl-base64, uffi and a few others here: http://www.b9.com/blog/index.html |
| 22:32.29 | ``Erik | uffi vs cffi keeps confusing me :/ |
| 22:32.54 | ``Erik | I'm under the impression that for a ne wproject, cffi is a better approach... but I'm not sure |
| 22:33.10 | ``Erik | and I wanna do a lisp hook over say, libtie/adrt |
| 22:34.03 | ``Erik | how dead is dead, which is the front runner, etc |
| 22:35.10 | Nohla | starseeker: hi |
| 22:35.10 | starseeker | Nohla: howdy :-) |
| 22:35.10 | starseeker | ``Erik: yeah, I think uffi is the way to go |
| 22:35.10 | starseeker | er cffi |
| 22:35.10 | starseeker | NOT uffi |
| 22:35.22 | starseeker | uffi is still needed by some libraries that haven't been updated in a while |
| 22:35.38 | ``Erik | see? see? thus the confusion |
| 22:35.42 | starseeker | thinks linedit may be tha main culprit... |
| 22:35.44 | Nohla | starseeker: a lot of time has passed since the last time :P |
| 22:35.51 | starseeker | Nohla: last time? |
| 22:36.17 | Nohla | we see each other :)+ |
| 22:36.45 | Nohla | i've bought the projector today :) |
| 22:37.03 | Nohla | and... |
| 22:37.10 | Nohla | it's my birthday |
| 22:37.19 | starseeker | ah congratulations! |
| 22:37.26 | ``Erik | happy bday, nohla! |
| 22:37.40 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2099 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* ebm */ |
| 22:38.21 | Nohla | starseeker: the second tutorial is done :) |
| 22:38.36 | starseeker | Nohla: excellent!! |
| 22:39.01 | ``Erik | do you have people without any english knowlege trying your tutorials as a test case? |
| 22:39.05 | Nohla | but "make" was difficult to run because the battery is going to wave hands with God |
| 22:39.32 | ``Erik | (are there people without english knowlege down there?) |
| 22:41.32 | Nohla | the next sunday will be a party at home |
| 22:42.18 | starseeker | Nohla: you can run "make" just in the directory doc/docbook/ |
| 22:42.26 | Nohla | hope that day, the student who asked for this tutorials appear |
| 22:43.00 | Nohla | starseeker: I'm not with my notebook right now |
| 22:43.42 | starseeker | Nohla: ah. k, no problem :) |
| 22:43.45 | starseeker | just so you know |
| 22:44.18 | Nohla | ``Erik: 3 people read the 1st tutorial |
| 22:44.40 | Nohla | you convince me and I'll install brlcad this weekend :P |
| 22:46.21 | Nohla | and promised the third for this weekend too... |
| 22:46.43 | Nohla | mmm... I'll do my best |
| 22:46.55 | ``Erik | is gonna go deaf fromt he purring O.o |
| 22:47.01 | Nohla | alcohol is not the best friend of translating |
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| 22:47.27 | ``Erik | perhaps not, but it makes the code flow :D |
| 22:47.47 | ``Erik | if I werent' covered in cats, I'd go get a drink in response |
| 22:48.52 | Nohla | ``Erik: what kind of cats? XD |
| 22:49.29 | ``Erik | domestic, a pair, from the same litter, from the local 'rescue' association |
| 22:49.43 | ``Erik | http://brlcad.org/~erik/20091025/ |
| 22:51.50 | Nohla | mine came from a similar place :) |
| 22:53.00 | ``Erik | <-- hopes his cats are happy, thinks they're better off than being in the wild or in a cage |
| 22:54.28 | Nohla | hi's something in his skin, needs vitamin |
| 22:55.04 | ``Erik | ah, the food doesn't provide? |
| 22:55.05 | Nohla | "Te hacen falta vitaminas... vitaminas" (National Rock from down here) |
| 22:55.55 | Nohla | seems needs more |
| 22:55.56 | ``Erik | needs to go to the store and get more food in the next week or two :/ |
| 22:57.35 | Nohla | guys, good night. I'll take a nap :) |
| 22:58.06 | ``Erik | hasta manana |
| 22:58.08 | Nohla | years do not go alone |
| 22:58.16 | ``Erik | happy new years :) |
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| 22:58.51 | Nohla | for me and for this decade |
| 22:59.42 | Nohla | starseeker: we should talk more, as the very beginning |
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| 23:13.09 | csanyipal | Hi, |
| 23:13.22 | csanyipal | just to say: Happy new year!! :D |
| 23:13.59 | ``Erik | happy new years, csanyipal :) |
| 23:14.06 | csanyipal | :) |
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| 23:43.58 | starseeker | Nohla: you are doing well :-) |
| 23:44.18 | starseeker | just need to get you committing ;-) |