00:01.09 |
starseeker |
humph |
00:01.43 |
starseeker |
funny errors when building and installing, tk
framebuffer does the same thing and now the libdm tk stuff wipes
out |
00:03.21 |
starseeker |
so much for using the macosx dir with 8.5...
plus it looks like it was something about the tcl/tk stubs that was
causing the X* issues, not unix vs macosx |
00:03.31 |
starseeker |
so that whole trick might be
unnecessary |
00:03.38 |
starseeker |
what a week |
00:03.53 |
starseeker |
hopes the 8.6 code does need
the trick... |
00:20.30 |
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BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37270
10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tk/unix/Makefile.in: Install
script is always in the unix directory, so make sure the install
rules know that. |
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01:51.04 |
brlcad |
louipc: neat machining |
02:50.53 |
poolio |
howdy all |
02:51.49 |
poolio |
louipc: I want one of those :) |
03:19.20 |
brlcad |
howdy poolio |
03:21.42 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37271
10/brlcad/trunk/src/external/ProEngineer/Makefile.am: include the
new pro/e 5 build file in the dist |
03:23.03 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37272
10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/Makefile.am: the included Makefile.am
files have to be included in the dist too, else kablooey. |
03:27.18 |
poolio |
brlcad: I'm taking a graphics class this
semester :D |
03:27.35 |
brlcad |
fantastic! |
03:28.03 |
brlcad |
should be great, one of my favorite classes
:) |
03:28.44 |
brlcad |
only wish I knew what I know now about the
things in BRL-CAD I could have used as a foundation for various
projects we worked on |
03:29.34 |
brlcad |
feel free to work on things you're learning in
the repo if you care to make a working graphics tool that we don't
already have ;) |
03:33.42 |
poolio |
will do. Although I'm pretty sure BRL-CAD will
have it all |
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03:41.57 |
brlcad |
poolio: nah, there is plenty we don't have,
even from an intro course -- image processing filters, software
rendering, various shaders, .. |
03:42.11 |
brlcad |
articulation tools |
03:42.24 |
brlcad |
depends what they cover, of course |
03:52.18 |
``Erik |
the graphics course I went to was very heavy
in opengl O.o but that was quite a while ago :) |
03:52.32 |
``Erik |
graphics course at the school I went to,
rather |
03:52.46 |
``Erik |
I didn't actually take it, but I looked over
my friends notes and assignments |
03:53.22 |
``Erik |
scrapped up a quick sorbel
filter for shits and giggles, mebbe should make an fb tool to do
that O.o |
03:53.30 |
brlcad |
the second half of graphics, particularly the
final project, is where I could have put it to good use |
03:55.22 |
``Erik |
wonders what it'd take to
pimp BRL-CAD as a foundation for uni courses to use
O.o |
03:57.33 |
brlcad |
would probably want to demonstrate how it
could be put to academic use for a given set of tasks, leaving many
unimplemented -- like writing a new image filter tool, or a new
shader, or a new primitive, or a new procdb, etc, showing how it
can be applied to an academic setting |
03:58.58 |
``Erik |
*shrug* idle thought |
04:02.40 |
starseeker |
brlcad: remind me to either disable the tk
framebuffer for release or make it the non-preferred one by default
- don't want to upset folk in the next release |
04:03.05 |
brlcad |
okay |
04:03.22 |
brlcad |
it's already not the default for mged,
iirc |
04:03.31 |
starseeker |
might just turn it off in trunk and fight it
out in dmtogl |
04:03.32 |
brlcad |
just have to make sure it's not the default
for libfb |
04:03.36 |
starseeker |
right |
04:04.22 |
starseeker |
is gearing up for another
attempt at TEA + configure.ac + Makefile.am... now that we're going
to be tkhtml upstream it would REALLY be nice to get that working
correctly |
04:04.59 |
starseeker |
dunno how much chance of success I have, but
ever since that tkpng thing I've wanted to figure out how to do
that right |
04:05.13 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37273
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/fb_generic.c: make sure the tk interface
isn't the default |
04:05.24 |
starseeker |
oh, cool - thanks :-) |
04:05.26 |
brlcad |
tkhtml should be easy -- just make them an
automake project and we're good |
04:05.33 |
poolio |
``Erik: yeah...this course looks like it's
entirely opengl foo |
04:05.50 |
brlcad |
er, non-libtool |
04:05.53 |
starseeker |
brlcad: right, but need to make sure the TEA
path magic and whatnot is preserved |
04:06.09 |
starseeker |
uh, non-libtool? |
04:06.27 |
poolio |
if anyone cares, see: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/academic/class/15462-s09/www/ |
04:06.28 |
brlcad |
the main problem was that they don't provide
libtool archive libraries |
04:06.37 |
brlcad |
if they did, we would have been
golden |
04:06.45 |
poolio |
``Erik: How bout industry acceptance?
:P |
04:06.59 |
starseeker |
what about something like tkpng that needs to
get config.cache values for things like libz from
upstream? |
04:07.58 |
starseeker |
doesn't know what issues togl
might also introduce... |
04:08.07 |
starseeker |
need a general solution |
04:11.25 |
starseeker |
poolio: perfect - to learn opengl, write a new
libdm display manager based on togl ;-) |
04:12.38 |
starseeker |
<crickets chriping> |
04:13.01 |
brlcad |
if tkpng were a libtool project, it'd just get
passed the libz.la as an ldflag |
04:13.10 |
brlcad |
the issue all stems from not using
libtool |
04:13.23 |
starseeker |
ah, so we can integrate libtool at the
configure.in level? |
04:13.36 |
brlcad |
via chainsaw |
04:13.58 |
starseeker |
is vaguely
disquieted... |
04:15.17 |
starseeker |
ah, well - if it works it works, chainsawed in
or not... |
04:15.47 |
Ralith |
starseeker: togl? |
04:16.01 |
starseeker |
Ralith: tcl/tk bindings to opengl |
04:16.07 |
starseeker |
has a C and a Tcl api |
04:16.15 |
Ralith |
o |
04:16.21 |
starseeker |
kinda the "standard" widget anyone uses when
doing opengl in tcl/tk |
04:17.12 |
Ralith |
read it as "to gl" and thought someone had
gotten a nice tesselator working or something |
04:17.17 |
starseeker |
hehe |
04:17.28 |
starseeker |
not yet, although keep an eye on
``Erik |
04:17.51 |
starseeker |
togl is for once we have that tesselator (and
faster wireframe rotating...) |
04:18.17 |
poolio |
starseeker: heh, probably won't have the time.
I'm probably just going to audit the course...really busy with
research |
04:18.30 |
starseeker |
poolio: cool |
04:18.48 |
poolio |
but maybe in the future I'll have time
:) |
04:19.37 |
starseeker |
decides sleep is the better
part of common sense... - night all! |
04:24.41 |
``Erik |
heh |
04:24.45 |
``Erik |
hides |
04:25.12 |
``Erik |
(industry acceptance vs uni usage is an
interesting subject... very much positive feedback loops) |
04:27.24 |
``Erik |
ralith: src/librt/primtives/nmg/nmg_tri_mc.c
is the beginnings of a marching cubes tesselator |
04:31.49 |
Ralith |
cool |
04:32.14 |
Ralith |
isn't marching cubes really bad on nonorganic
shapes, though? |
04:32.31 |
``Erik |
probably |
04:32.46 |
Ralith |
seems like it'd really bungle any hard
edges |
04:32.51 |
``Erik |
yes |
04:33.03 |
Ralith |
and probably make non-aligned flat surfaces
weird |
04:33.11 |
``Erik |
but it's what I've been funded to work on, so
*shrug* it's happening, and that's what starseeker was referring to
:) |
04:33.17 |
Ralith |
'kay |
04:33.34 |
Ralith |
I guess it doesn't have to be pretty to be a
valuable modeling aid |
04:33.40 |
``Erik |
no, flat surfaces should be ok... provided the
nmg decimate routine does a decent job |
04:33.48 |
``Erik |
but edges will be sloppy |
04:34.09 |
``Erik |
start seeing a sawtooth pattern, I'd
imagine |
04:34.18 |
Ralith |
...oh, right, the algo interpolates |
04:35.46 |
``Erik |
possibly sometime next week, the metaball
primitive will be tesselating using the algo, shooting for the task
to be 'done' in april |
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07:44.49 |
Ralith |
ooh, near-term! |
07:44.52 |
Ralith |
that will be fun to play with |
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CIA-38 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37274
10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/Makefile.am: MAKEFILE_TEMPLATES is
causing the .am files to get copied into the build directory for
some reason.. try extradist without srcdir. |
14:40.48 |
brlcad |
that seems to do the trick |
14:40.54 |
brlcad |
clean distcheck, ready to go |
14:44.12 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37275
10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: push some items down, not clear they'll
actually get addressed in the next release. obj-g stalled, shelling
ignored until marching cubes is done, dbfind isn't
pressing. |
14:46.57 |
CIA-38 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37276
10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS: and it was even documented.. by me.
sunofabitch. shaders.sh is now fixed, albeit by undoing the view
initialization that broke it. will have to see what else falls
out. |
15:57.04 |
``Erik |
the shelling fix was kinda shuffled cuz I
think it'll fall out of the stuff I'm doing over the next two
weeks... O.o :) |
15:57.28 |
``Erik |
and I have a feeling that I'm going to get
annoyed answering questions about obj-g and just do it once I have
that milestone met |
17:59.54 |
brlcad |
well I'm certainly not your scapegoat this
month! |
18:00.17 |
brlcad |
you have samples that fail in abundance
now |
18:01.36 |
``Erik |
I do? samples? huh? |
18:04.12 |
brlcad |
yeah, I PM'd you links a few weeks
ago |
18:04.22 |
``Erik |
ohhh, obj files |
18:04.32 |
``Erik |
I passed those along to,uh, the guy who's
working on that now |
18:04.52 |
brlcad |
cool |
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``Erik |
he kept asking about a formal specification,
and looking at hte more esoteric bits... I kinda crapped on his
parade and kept repeating that we just need enough to make our
sample set work |
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18:09.58 |
brlcad |
I actually have a copy of the OBJ spec
somewhere |
18:10.04 |
brlcad |
lemme see if I can dig it up |
18:10.28 |
brlcad |
if he wants to go hog wild and implement
support for everything, I wouldn't stop him |
18:10.39 |
brlcad |
his OCD tendancies in that regard would be a
win |
18:11.08 |
brlcad |
certainly better than spending all day
"training" |
18:11.46 |
brlcad |
yep, there it be |
18:11.50 |
brlcad |
uploaded |
18:14.46 |
``Erik |
um, I'm not int he office today, 4 day
weekend, w00t :D |
18:14.52 |
brlcad |
ahh, okay |
18:15.01 |
``Erik |
I think there's enough there to keep one or
two ocd type folk busy for years |
18:15.12 |
brlcad |
still better than "training" |
18:15.15 |
``Erik |
it's not step bad, but it goes to some nutty
crap... bunches of nurbs crap, etc |
18:15.31 |
``Erik |
heh, two full days in an auditorium for
'diversity training'? zomfg, wtff? |
18:18.42 |
``Erik |
(so is this going to be the brlcad.org
migration weekend?) |
18:24.31 |
brlcad |
good idea actually |
18:24.48 |
brlcad |
if I can get this release out today, that'll
leave most of sun/mon for it |
19:07.23 |
starseeker |
ah ha - the Apache rivet code does have a
configure.ac with TEA stuff in it :-) |
19:07.29 |
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BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37277
10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/incrTcl/ (198 files in 28
dirs): |
19:07.29 |
CIA-38 |
BRL-CAD: Update incrTcl to itcl-ng cvs version
as of January 15, 2010. Unlike older |
19:07.29 |
CIA-38 |
BRL-CAD: incrTcl trees this appears to have
its own configure.in script, so removing the |
19:07.29 |
CIA-38 |
BRL-CAD: Makefile.am logic - will have to
switch BRL-CAD build logic to attempt a proper |
19:07.29 |
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BRL-CAD: subconfigure, as of right now this
won't build. |
19:07.34 |
starseeker |
woot |
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BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37278
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/draw.c: Fixed a typo. |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37279
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/draw.c: strrchr can return null, check
for it. |
19:48.14 |
brlcad |
and that easily, bugs are introduced |
19:48.24 |
brlcad |
"Fixed a typo." |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37280
10/brlcad/trunk/ChangeLog: update Changelog in preparation for
release 7.16.4 |
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BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37281
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/draw.c: The previous typo fix was
premature. We only need to check if the returned cp is
NULL. |
20:29.05 |
starseeker |
ah! |
20:29.19 |
starseeker |
tcl.m4 goes in the m4 directory, not in the
tclconfig directory |
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BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37282
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/bot_dump.c: Remove undesired cp
increment/advancement. |
21:16.03 |
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BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37283
10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tkhtml3/ (20 files in 5
dirs): |
21:16.03 |
CIA-38 |
BRL-CAD: Not pretending this is remotely close
to correct yet, but start working on a |
21:16.03 |
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BRL-CAD: hybrid autotools/TEA build system for
tkhtml3 using the Apache rivet work as a |
21:16.03 |
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BRL-CAD: guide. Does NOT work. If we can
actually get it working, the *.in files can |
21:16.03 |
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BRL-CAD: go away. |
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BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37284
10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tkhtml3/src/Makefile.am: Ah
yes, these files are now in the same directory as the
Makefile.am. |
21:45.25 |
starseeker |
brlcad: do we sync to STABLE? |
21:48.47 |
brlcad |
that should take us through step 5 of the
release steps |
21:49.27 |
brlcad |
interesting .. recent commits aren't announced
yet |
21:49.44 |
brlcad |
looks like last sync was r36843 |
21:50.24 |
starseeker |
nods |
21:50.32 |
starseeker |
doing initial checkout on crit now |
21:53.21 |
starseeker |
thinks sourceforge hates me
today... |
21:57.44 |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37285 10/brlcad/trunk/ (6
files in 6 dirs): bump to 7.16.4 for release. looks like we're good
to go. |
22:08.13 |
starseeker |
will check back in a few
hours and see if the STABLE checkout is ready for the merge
command... |
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